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1 edit | Who? quote: The service has been particularly popular among the more sophisticated customers attracted by higher Internet speeds, said Karl Bode, the editor of BroadbandReports.com. "Deliver quality technology and cutting-edge speed, and customers respond," he said. "Im preparing to move into a new home, and FiOS availability actually played a part in where I was willing to move. And Ive probably been one of Verizons most outspoken critics over the years."
Who's this Karl Bode guy? Never heard of him. He doesn't seem to have a Wiki page so obviously he really is a homeless nobody. Typical NYT reporting...just get any random person to make up a quote and it's front page news. | |
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| said by cdru : quote: The service has been particularly popular among the more sophisticated customers attracted by higher Internet speeds, said Karl Bode, the editor of BroadbandReports.com. "Deliver quality technology and cutting-edge speed, and customers respond," he said. "Im preparing to move into a new home, and FiOS availability actually played a part in where I was willing to move. And Ive probably been one of Verizons most outspoken critics over the years."
Who's this Karl Bode guy? Never heard of him. He doesn't seem to have a Wiki page so obviously he really is a homeless nobody. Typical NYT reporting...just get any random person to make up a quote and it's front page news. BroadbandReports? Sounds like a DSLReports knock-off!  | |
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broadbandreports is another name for this website. look at the top left corner of the page it says broadband dsl reports.com aka broadband reports. if you google broadband report you get this site. i hate stupid people For future reference, the (wink) is a generally accepted indicator of sarcasm on the internet. | |
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Karl Bode is the editor of BroadbandReports.com. sound like you have a short term memory because they tell you who he is. Thanks for pointing that out. Here after 5 years and 7500 posts I had no idea.  | |
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I've only got approx 3500 posts, so you've got me beat.
Some people have no concept of sarcasm & satire.
Oh well, it was worth a try.... -- Petty people are disproportionably corrupted by petty power
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| Re: Who? said by riblet :The bigger issue here is Karl quoting himself via the NYT. Pretty lame "journalism". More like self-promotion and a huge ego. I thought the same thing. Can you imagine a newscaster on Fox News trying to sell a story, and then cut away to a video clip of the same newscaster interviewing himself for the story? Ridiculous. But that's the kind of news we have come to know and love here.
"The news on DSLR has been known to be very opinionated and biased with few facts to back up their stories. There is no real journalistic value or earned credibility there," says MadMANN, a regular poster on BBR/DSLR.com. "I have learned to treat their news as the Enquirer of tech world news." | |
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I can't say I feel like an idiot, I just never focused on it. So I started looking at all the other things I've been ignoring. Hey! Wha d'ya know! | |
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| Karl is not just an editor, he is the founder and editor of this site. I appreciate all the discussions he has enabled through the years. Even though I appear to be a recent user of this site, I was significantly involved with this site in it's formative years. I lost my original ID and privileges when due to financial needs I was forced to drop out of all internet access. It was a painful period for me.
He has run a site that has significantly been able to follow the events that have shaped high-speed access to the internet and all the ancillary services.
I had nowhere near the posts that he has had. He has continued to be able to actively maintain contact with the industry.
Let us all commend Karl for his diligent efforts in allowing us to understand and maintain our high-speed internet connections - Richard Ellis | |
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2 edits | Re: Who? Perhaps you should be thanking justin , owner and operator of the site (scroll to the bottom of the linked page).
Karl is one of 3 staff members and the news editor among other things. I think a founder likely would have a join date a little closer to the beginning of the site as well as a lower UID instead of 141383. But none the less Karl does do a good job. | |
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| another big weakness "Before we get all weepy in adoration, we've well documented that if FiOS continues to have a weak spot, it's billing errors and support issues." That and the fact that only a small percentage of the country will ever see FIOS, I'm in Central Massachusetts and there are apparently no plans by Verizon to roll FIOS past for the most part what has been the relatively upscale communities around Rt 128 and 495.. | |
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1 edit | Re: Billing problems, too true I have the 3 months beat, I am well into month 5 of trying to move to the triple play bundle with no end in sight yet.
I started back in April tring to renew my contract for 2 years only to have my account in a state of FUBAR. I am now paying close to $250 a month when I was paying ~ $200 a month before I started this mess, new packages mysteriously have been added to my account even when I never requested them and no one can seem to remove them or credit me for them at this point, no one seems to have a clue how to switch my long distance from ATT to Verizon which has caused several orders to become stuck in there worthless computer systems. For a company that started out in the PHONE business they can not even do something as simple as switching my long distance carrier. What more can you really expect from a company cant even assist people with problems relating to there core business functions.
I have given up trying to deal with the clueless phone jockeys at the FSC, they really need more training and there needs to be more levels that people that we can speak to when there issues are too complex to be resolved be someone who has limited access to fix anything other then resetting your ONT or STB's, right now Gustavo in the Verizon Direct forums is trying to straiten the mess out that there systems have caused, so far he is the only one who has been able to make any headway in trying to resolve these issues but there is still a long way to go, its truly sad that for such a great product with great potential they restrict there support people from the systems for which they need access to resolve issues correctly on the first try without needing your request sent to a "Network Techs" with who you can not even speak to and who tend to cause more problems then they solve due to miss-communication from the FSC phone jockeys. | |
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| the corporate American way If I were an auto dealer and I wanted to give people a Maserati for the price of a Volkswagen, Id have some seriously happy customers, said Craig Moffett, an analyst with Sanford C. Bernstein. My problem would be whether I could earn a decent return doing it.
The other incumbents like it much better to give their customers a volkswagon for the price of a maserati. That's the corporate American way.
They just can't understand why a company would spend more money than necessary when they can get away with charging high prices for crappy service and products.
the bozo quoted above doesn't realize customers would be very happy if they were getting a volkswagon for the price of a volkswagon. | |
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1 edit | It really is a bad example. You aren't getting a Maserati for the price of Volkswagen. With DSL, you were getting a VW at the price of a Maserati. We are building a network that doesn't have the upkeep price that copper does. So instead of spending what we do on copper per annum, we are able to use the money to build out our infrastructure. While it was a bit rocky at first, I think we have a good foothold and you will be seeing more rollout sooner. I'll be the first to admit we have serious glitches in our billing and support but, it would seem to be more of a "growing pains" issue. | |
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join:2003-02-04 USA | Re: Of course it's a good idea The bad thing about it is by shooting themselves in the foot you get to suffer too by living in an area they alone are the teleco for. You don't get to choose FIOS. | |
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join:2001-05-10 Redlands, CA | Re: Of course it's a good idea I don't consider my superior Internet, uncompressed and content laden video or my crystal clear unlimited long distance service to be a "shot in the foot". | |
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| Re: Of course it's a good idea Compared to FIOS your slow internet, basic video with limited multi HD feeds due to limited bandwidth and the same VOIP offered by a local cable company, yea... I'd call that a shot in the foot. I'd LOVE the ability to really choose between FIOS, U-Verse, Cable, Sat. | |
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| Missing the Point FiOS was sold to investors as not only a way to "future-proof" the network, but as a way to save money on maintenance.
In theory, the copper plant would be retired, and so would (nearly) all the technicians that maintained it.
Verizon has yet to turn-down copper, even in a single neighborhood, to see if this theory works. | |
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| said by voipguy :Verizon has yet to turn-down copper, even in a single neighborhood, to see if this theory works. Possibly true, but I doubt they've done much maintenance on copper runs that aren't being used anymore -- and one's decommissioned copper probably provides additional alternate swapping pairs for those still being maintained in a common run. Still pumping air through the system to keep water out though. They do that for fiber? | |
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| premium bundle The FIOS product lineup still need much improvement. VOIP, instead of POTS should be an option. Symmetric speed & pricing should be the same across all markets. Prices should also reflect local market competition (meaning you can get a better deal if the cable company has one for similar products). Just because FIOS internet is somewhat more robust than a cablemodem doesn't mean you can necessarily charge more.
Verizon did many things to stunt the growth of FIOS. 1. Refused initially to compete on a bottom line price (begging to happen, Q4, 2007) 2. Offer little to no bundling price reductions & implement disconnect fees, surcharges & bogus cost of doing business. 3. Not offer a VOIP product as part of a FIOS bundle. 4. Drag out franchise negotiations with major cities such as NYC and push lobbying dollars at the federal level to make trouble for the cable companies (primarily Comcast 30% ownership of the cable market) 5. Divert deployment resources to markets which have no real competition (the idea here is pick the low hanging fruit first). This left communities begging for real competition out to dry... guess what happens later when Verizon comes a-calling for a video franchise? You guessed right, problems. 6. Billing errors (there's a whole thread dedicated to this, I need not say more).
Of course hindsight is 20/20 and they were bound to make a few mistakes.. but the techs installing the product way back in 2003 knew the right way to market & compete against the cable companies.. but did management listen?
Not really, no.
Greed, Return on Investment and trying to prove that FTTP could be a success took priority over steady, sustained growth.
So, what did Verizon do? (already heavily leveraged with vodafone investment) Pump 18+ billion into the wireless network (lte). Just so they could say they have way to stop-loss some the millions of POTS phone lines being canceled every year.
btw, fti... don't get your news on telcos from newspapers & major media anymore, they are editorial shills for wall st. and/or large corporations. | |
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| Re: Can you quote yourself? said by The Beer :Can you use a quote of yourself from another article quoting you? Is that legal? You can, but you have to do so sparingly. Every time you quote yourself, or otherwise refer to yourself in the third person, you tear at the fabric of the space-time continuum and risk falling into an multidimensional fold.
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| Good business FiOS is a good product. Verizon is doing a "good" thing: "good" as in "good business". It's the right thing to do for the long run. However, in the beginning you have to do the easier things that will offer the best ROI in order to help pay for the project's initial phase. Over time, though, if you're in a Verizon area, then you'll be served by fiber instead of copper (with, I expect, some obvious exceptions). If Verizon didn't have such a screwed up corporate structure that continually causes billing and support issues, then they'd get even more uptake than they currently do. A lot of people are ordering FiOS in spite of these issues because (1) it's a good product and (2) it saves them money for the level of services they get compared to the competition. Verizon (formerly BellAtlantic in my area) has always been very good at providing the service(s); they just need to "upgrade" their support functions for their service(s).
FiOS is the best broadband product I've ever had, so I'm very happy with it (obviously). Still, Verizon is just another large corporation focused on staying in business or getting even larger (in market share especially), so they're certainly no worse than their competition in that respect. They just need to learn (again) that the best way to improve your busines is to keep (reasonable--which most are) customers happy. They've got a little ways to go on this front (or a lot in the case of some who've had way more problems than they deserve due to Verizon's faulty corporate structure). | |
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| Of Course it is The FCC granted Verizon an absolute monopoly to install FiOS, even going so far as to allow them to remove the copper, thus severing any potential for last-mile competition.
FiOS can be far superior to cable-tv based facilities, if Verizon wants it to be (no Moto STB's, please.); it can be, like Verizon's cellphone service, a premium product, that people willingly pay more for.
And based on what I've read here over the years, plenty of yuppies, baby boomers, and Generation X/Y/Next are accustomed to paying a large chunk of their income for cellphone, internet and/or paytv, or a bundle thereof.
With discrete TDM, and symmetrical upstream data rates 20-50x the "competition", coupled with telephone-company maintenance and operating standards (to be seen), FiOS will be the premier standard to which others can't compare.
If they cut 100% to Fiber, presumably, the copper-plant maintenance factor should go away, remote diagnosis should allow for more offshoring (boo, hiss), and overall, internal labor costs should be kept flat.
Do you think, for a moment, that the "evil" phone company would invest $23B without the prospect of making a return? | |
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1 edit | Re: Of Course it is said by elray :The FCC granted Verizon an absolute monopoly to install FiOS, even going so far as to allow them to remove the copper, thus severing any potential for last-mile competition. I don't think it was the FCC that Verizon registered their trademark (or is it a servicemark?) FiOS (which gives them a monopoly to providing "FiOS").
AFAIK Qwest (for instance) could technically provide fiber to the home like Verizon is doing, but they choose not to.
Although I have FiOS for the "last mile", I could have used Comcast for internet services or phone service as well (in addition to any of many cell phone services that make POTS somewhat obsolete anyway).
As to ripping out the copper (mine is still physically installed btw) I think they can only turn off copper that they own. They can't install into a Qwest area and rip the copper out of Qwest's central office. | |
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4 edits | Re: Of Course it is said by Oregonian2 :said by elray :The FCC granted Verizon an absolute monopoly to install FiOS, even going so far as to allow them to remove the copper, thus severing any potential for last-mile competition. I don't think it was the FCC that Verizon registered their trademark (or is it a servicemark?) FiOS (which gives them a monopoly to providing "FiOS"). What the FCC did was interpret the Communications Act of 1996 ("THE ACT FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS!") that competition in the 'last mile' to the consumer's homes (which the telcos agreed to in exchange for being allowed into the long distance business) only applied to the copper plant in place as of when the act became law (1996). So, the 1996 Communications Act was locked into 1996 technology! So much for being "THE ACT FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS!". This means that Verizon does not have to provide access to their fiber plant to ANYONE! From where I come from that's called a government sanctioned monopoly! Let's get real here-does ANYONE believe that copper will still be in wide usage for phone lines in 2046? Yet the ACT FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS is stuck back in 1996, thanks to the FCC!
In a nutshell, Verizon got to have their cake, eat it too and have the little guys scrambling for the crumbs they left behind-all courtesy of the Republican majority Powell FCC they bribed (lobbied?). | |
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2 edits | Re: Of Course it is said by qworster :said by Oregonian2 :said by elray :The FCC granted Verizon an absolute monopoly to install FiOS, even going so far as to allow them to remove the copper, thus severing any potential for last-mile competition. I don't think it was the FCC that Verizon registered their trademark (or is it a servicemark?) FiOS (which gives them a monopoly to providing "FiOS"). What the FCC did was interpret the Communications Act of 1996 ("THE ACT FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS!") that competition in the 'last mile' to the consumer's homes (which the telcos agreed to in exchange for being allowed into the long distance business) only applied to the copper plant in place as of when the act became law (1996). So, the 1996 Communications Act was locked into 1996 technology! So much for being "THE ACT FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS!". This means that Verizon does not have to provide access to their fiber plant to ANYONE! From where I come from that's called a government sanctioned monopoly! Except that it's not a monopoly. Any other company is free to install fiber to the very same homes. Verizon is given a monopoly in terms of whom who uses the fiber that Verizon owns and Verizon installed at its own expense. Can Verizon use the cable that Comcast put down?
Verizon does not have a monopoly -- other companies are free to install fiber, cable, or whatever they want to the very same houses/apartments/etc that Verizon did.
For phone service (the purpose for which that copper was initially first installed for) I have a choice of Verizon phone (which I'm using), VoIP over FiOS using a third party service (my wife uses free Skype but there are others), and I could use Comcast. I also can use a number of wireless (cell) phones (which we do). Monopoly?
P.S. - Prior to FiOS I had a "Third party DSL". However even then, it only was my ISP that was third party. The DSL equipment and line itself still was Verizon who owned it. They still had a "monopoly" on the copper that they owned. But with the advent of cable there's an "alternate monopoly". | |
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| said by Oregonian2 :said by elray :The FCC granted Verizon an absolute monopoly to install FiOS, even going so far as to allow them to remove the copper, thus severing any potential for last-mile competition. I don't think it was the FCC that Verizon registered their trademark (or is it a servicemark?) FiOS (which gives them a monopoly to providing "FiOS"). AFAIK Qwest (for instance) could technically provide fiber to the home like Verizon is doing, but they choose not to. Although I have FiOS for the "last mile", I could have used Comcast for internet services or phone service as well (in addition to any of many cell phone services that make POTS somewhat obsolete anyway). As to ripping out the copper (mine is still physically installed btw) I think they can only turn off copper that they own. They can't install into a Qwest area and rip the copper out of Qwest's central office. Um, wow. Where do I begin?
The Independents and the Bells have a 25-year history of not competing with each other. Why would they start now? Verizon sees profitability with the FTTC product because within their franchise area, they already have the easements, right of ways, central offices, and the other elements that make up the natural monopoly that is the last mile. To suggest they'd make a foray into Qwest territory is preposterous.
Comcast does provide some alternative, for some customers. But not an equal alternative, and is not available for all customers - they do not provide POTS, dry pairs, dedicated circuits / switched circuits, T-1, BRI, etc. They certainly do not provide anything comparable to FTTC.
But as for the original statement, the "monopoly" status is in contrast to the prior requirement that Verizon allow potential competitors to lease its facilities at regulated (wholesale) rates - a reasonable requirement considering the history of telco and the intent of the various Telecom reforms enacted and ruled in the past 25 years. | |
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2. Apartment perpetration is till mainly vaporware.
3. Convincing consumers with broadband to subscribe. Consumers like myself will see no reason to switch. For example what is the turnover rate and households who have fiber laid but chooses not to use it.
4. Not deploying their trump card fast enough : reasonable price digital TV. To get the consumer to switch to FIOS they need to compete with cable and satellite TV broadband alone will not cut it. | |
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Cable and Telco have always had the active electronics either inside a CO or Headend or in other centralized locations (Node, SLC, or VRAD in the neighborhood). What happens X amount of years down the line when these ONTs start failing? This is the first major installation of this kind of equipment in standard residential homes, should be interesting. | |
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join:2008-01-18 Encino, CA 1 edit | Great Idea But.... If Verizon doesn't expand i don't see how they win? Should be an option to everyone, like satellite is now to people, not just available where verizon's local telephone customers reside. | |
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