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| Re: Megaupload crushed because they are/were pirates and the Justice Dept remains. So do reams of bad law.
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| said by John McClane:megaupload was a file sharing website. nothing about the site explicitly encouraged piracy. it was just a file sharing site. It wasn't their fault that the primary users of their service were pirates.
However, the people running megaupload were stupid and did commit piracy publicly. I don't see how the two are related. they should be separate of each other.
I think you missed the part where they paid users to upload copyright infringed files.
If they want to pay people for generating traffic, it cant be for content they do not own, there are emails that prove they knew it was copyright infringed content.
Also under DMCA they are supposed to ban repeat offenders, instead they were paying them money for repeat offences.... | |
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| | | | | Re: Megaupload crushed because they are/were pirates websites are not in emails. Read what I wrote. I said nothing about the emails. | |
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| | | | | actually there are a lot of inaccuracy in the indictment. I have worked in the Anti-Piracy industry and have some knowledge of Megaupload and similar sharehosting sites.
Yes, Megaupload does pay under certain conditions Premium account holders for uploading files as part of the reward program. However, it's still a far stretch for the DoJ to claim that Megaupload pays pirates to upload copyright infringing files. The reason:
1) As has already been widely discussed, Megaupload is used for a number of legitimate purposes, to share open source contents, game mods, and among academics to share research related contents. You can't simply claim that Megaupload is only used to share copyright infringing contents. I don't have any exact statistics but I believe the majority of files on Megaupload are actually legitimate. Still, due to the large amount of contents stored on Megaupload, there is a large chunk of infringing contents.
2) Megaupload only pays if the file has been downloaded certain number of times, and I know the number is extremely high. Most pirated contents will never be able to hit that number because the distribution is very decentralized. One pirated movie is uploaded by hundreds of people/sources resulting in hundreds of copy. The number of downloads for each copy is thus diluted.
3) Megaupload exclude large files from the reward program. However, most copyright infringing contents such as movies are very large. Yes, uploaders often split files but you really got to split into very small files in order to meet the file size requirement to get paid. Nowadays, most people prefer to download contents in single file or 1GB splits so the smaller splits won't get much downloads. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Megaupload crushed because they are/were pirates You're right. Those arrested were allegedly infringing copyrights and laundering money. | |
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Chicago, IL | said by ThrowDemsOut:And they did not adhere to takedown requests as was readily apparent in seized emails.
They had nothing to take down.
Everything is user submitted and protected under 1st amendment free speech laws. | |
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kudos:4 | Re: Megaupload crushed because they are/were pirates said by Oh_No:said by ThrowDemsOut:And they did not adhere to takedown requests as was readily apparent in seized emails.
They had nothing to take down. Everything is user submitted and protected under 1st amendment free speech laws. They fall under DMCA takedown rules, which they didn't follow. And free speech has NOTHING to do with it. Free speech doesn't negate copyright laws.
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Hamilton, ON | Re: Megaupload crushed because they are/were pirates They did in fact do tons of take-downs.
I know this for a fact since I watch tv shows on line.
There has many times when a show has air'd last night when I get a DMCA notice, the next day.
What is the difference between Mega and Utube.
The whole reason the DMCA was created is to prevent this sort of thing. Since it has to with Scientology. They were trying to take down the companies for a User posting.
Since your internet providers refuse to enact the Common Carrier laws, this thing will continue forever.
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kudos:4 | Re: Megaupload crushed because they are/were pirates said by KrK:They did follow.
No less than TorrentFreak, hardly an apologist for MPAA & RIAA, lists the facts about Megaupload NOT following DMCA rules.
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Megaupload’s “Abuse Tool” to which major copyright holders were given access, enabled the removal of links to infringing works hosted on MegaUpload’s servers. However, the indictment claims that it “did not actually function as a DMCA compliance tool as the copyright owners were led to believe.” And here’s why.
The indictment claims that when a copyright holder issued a takedown notice for content referenced by its URL, only the URL was taken down, not the content to which it pointed. So although the URL in question would report that it had been removed and would no longer resolve to infringing material, URLs issued to others would remain operational.
Furthermore, the indictment states that although MegaUpload staff (referred to as Members of the Conspiracy) discussed how they could automatically remove child pornography from their systems given a specific hash value, the same standards weren’t applied to complained-about copyright works.
In June 2010, it appears that MegaUpload was subjected to a something of a test by the authorities. The company was informed, pursuant to a criminal search warrant from the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, that thirty-nine infringing movies were being stored on their servers at Carpathia Hosting in the Eastern District of Virginia.
“A member of the Mega Conspiracy informed several of his co-conspirators at that time that he located the named files using internal searches of their systems. As of November 18, 2011, more than a year later, thirty-six of the thirty-nine infringing motion pictures were still being stored on the servers controlled by the Mega Conspiracy,” the indictment reads.
A citation from an internal MegaUpload email from February 2007 entitled “reward payments” claims to show that at least two key staff members knew that cash payments were being paid to users who uploaded infringing material including “full popular DVD rips” and “software with keygenerators (Warez)”.
It’s certainly possible that the authorities were monitoring MegaUpload’s correspondence but there are also at least two mentions in the indictment of an unnamed person described as “an unindicted co-conspirator”. While prosecutors sometimes use this term to describe people who have been excluded from an indictment on evidentiary concerns, they also use it to describe individuals who have been granted immunity from prosecution.
In any event, these emails are being heavily relied upon since many appear to indicate a knowledge among staff that copyright works were held on the company’s servers. Here’s a sample:
An email from 2006 claims to show how MegaUpload attempted to download large amounts of content from YouTube and appeared by April that year to have obtained 30% of the site’s content. A follow up email in 2007 claimed that “Kim [MegaUpload's founder] really wants to copy Youtube one to one.”
An email from August 2006 titled “lol” contained a screenshot of a MegaUpload download page showing a cracked copy of CD burning software Alcohol 120%.
Other correspondence quoted in the indictment appears to show key staff members sending each other links to copyright works hosted on MegaUpload.
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| | | | | | | Re: Megaupload crushed because they are/were pirates Read it again, they specifically said "the indictment claims." You know, as in not in their own words. As in TF isn't saying they aren't following DMCA, but that they are being charged for not following it. You can't say these are "facts" when we have nothing to actually prove what was going on other than e-mails provided by the accuser. I hate to tell you this, but it's not hard to forge evidence. | |
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| I have a hard time taking at face value reports that use terms like "Mega Conspiracy" and calls employees as "co-conspirators."
Also, as for the reward payments, they work much like YouTube. I'm sure some popular downloads were things like cracks and key gens, and that those people did receive reward payments, just as someone may upload a popular video on break.com or YouTube etc that has infringing content.
Also, I'm pretty sure some employees would look through files and see obvious warez type materials. Thus the lol. However I'm not convinced it was their duty or policy to look through user's files to vette them. They obviously believed it wasn't.
The site had a massive amount of regular usage. IMHO it performs a legit service and function, irregardless of pirated files people upload.
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| | | | | said by ThrowDemsOut:said by Oh_No:said by ThrowDemsOut:And they did not adhere to takedown requests as was readily apparent in seized emails.
They had nothing to take down. Everything is user submitted and protected under 1st amendment free speech laws. They fall under DMCA takedown rules, which they didn't follow. And free speech has NOTHING to do with it. Free speech doesn't negate copyright laws. A site in New Zealand has to follow the U.S. DMCA?. What about Sharia law, do they have to follow that too?. The U.S. is far overreaching to impose it's laws on other countries. Each country has it's own laws. | |
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kudos:4 | Re: Megaupload crushed because they are/were pirates said by jack99 :A site in New Zealand has to follow the U.S. DMCA?. What about Sharia law, do they have to follow that too?. The U.S. is far overreaching to impose it's laws on other countries. Each country has it's own laws.
They signed a treaty to enforce copyright and passed their own laws to meet the treaty requirements. | |
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kudos:1 | They might of been pirates but i didnt experience it. Ive downloaded many things off of MU but none were illegal. | |
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| | | said by ThrowDemsOut:And they did not adhere to takedown requests as was readily apparent in seized emails.
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| KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
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| | | said by ThrowDemsOut:And they did not adhere to takedown requests as was readily apparent in seized emails.
that's actually not correct. Having worked in the anti-piracy industry, I have sent thousends of takedown notices to Megaupload (we use an automated system) and their compliance rate is pretty much perfect. I can't remember any instances where they haven't complied.
I can't comment why DoJ claimed that some of the files out of the 50 something they mentioned weren't removed but I suspect there is more to the story. | |
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troops arent out of the middle east, more of them are in for that matter
more war propaganda, more war propaganda
signed ndaa that gives obama the illegal right to detain any american without evidence, without trial
he killed a american citizen overseas without trial
was backing sopas and stopped it recently because elections coming
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| Unlikely, heading for "infowars" type paranoia First, artists have plenty of ways to bypass the old distribution model. YouTube, for example, launched Justin Bieber's career. He ended up signing with a manager but that was his choice.
Plenty of artists distribute directly on iTunes. If you Google the phrase itunes direct music distribution, you'll see a zillion links with howtos about hooking up your music directly to iTunes and selling it there.
The band Collective Soul, who sold millions of albums in the 90s on Atlantic Records, broke their deal and went indie about 5 years ago.
These are just examples. It's a myth that the old entertainment industry forces artists into signing with them. There are plenty of other outlets. Why should the media companies care about some crappy shady MegaBox thing that might or might not happen when Apple is sitting there eating their lunch today?
Second, realize that MegaUpload was kind of a shady operation. They had their pirate side and their legit side. The legit side was used to cover up the pirate side, where they made all their millions. They pretended to be responsive to DMCA requests but in fact were encouraging and paying for uploads of copyrighted material behind the scenes. This will all become extremely clear as the case against them unfolds, and I'm sure people here will not see reality, but we'll try to make the facts available.
Given that, why would you assume that there was some vast conspiracy where multiple countries were manipulated by the evil puppet master media companies into doing their bidding, and their REAL goal was to kill MegaBox? When there's so much evidence that in fact there was massive piracy going on with millions of dollars being paid? That is just Alex Jones infowar type thinking. "Ah hah! I KNOW the REAL reason for (insert your favorite conspiracy theme)! Despite all public evidence to the contrary! WAKE UP PEOPLE!" I'm not buying it. | |
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| Re: Unlikely, heading for "infowars" type paranoia I'm not buying the media companies loss figures either. Perhaps this will turn out to be a good thing in that the courts will be able to shed a light on the real damages as the trial progresses so we can get a more accurate feel for piracy losses world-wide.
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| Re: Unlikely, heading for "infowars" type paranoia Bickering about how much was lost is pretty much a detail in the big picture. Of course the media companies will put it high and the defendants will put it low. It's not credible to come in with a defense that says "you really lost nothing". That doesn't pass the smell test. It's some number, what it is exactly isn't that important, because the copyright law says nothing about the value of what was copied without permission, much less cite it as a mitigating factor. | |
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| You keep saying itunes,
Itunes in appliance based a apple product is nothing but a appliance.
the difference is with MegaBox everyone would be able to cross platform the products gained from there service.
Itune's is useless to anyone who' does't like apple's appliances.
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| Re: Unlikely, heading for "infowars" type paranoia said by a1_Andy:You keep saying itunes,
Itunes in appliance based a apple product is nothing but a appliance.
the difference is with MegaBox everyone would be able to cross platform the products gained from there service.
Itune's is useless to anyone who' does't like apple's appliances.
Well, sure. I'm not suggesting by any means that Apple is the only one out there. Google/Android has alternatives, and there are certainly others. I highlight Apple first because in my view they were the prime movers in this market and very much are the big elephant in the room. The TV content providers are very afraid of what Apple is going to do for (or to) them, analogous to what Apple did for/to the music providers.
I will quibble with you about how you characterize the Apple offerings. First it's about both iTunes and iCloud, not just iTunes. Second it's not at all an "appliance". iTunes is cross platform across Windows and Mac. iTunes generally stores music in standard MP3 files, which are compatible with any player. iCloud has a Web browser interface so can be used from anywhere. Google things like "sync iTunes to Android" and you'll see it's a very active area. | |
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Regular people download media and affect mega corporations' bottom line:
Go halfway across the world into another country to get the scumbags and arrest them
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| Downhill from here.. Megalomaniac Upload is the FULL name shortened to MegaUpload.
A non-stable owner of a website that creates nothing, and sells trading/sharing storage. A website that falsely represented celebrities and authors (singers) under false pretenses. And where companies like Visa, Paypal, etc, profited on the monetizing of subscriptions (a service that was based on theft, distribution, and laundering... more to come from the feds)
Megabox, or whatever this guy made up, would not have caused anything more than a bigger reason to stop the theft of IP.
Imagine, Karl, if you wrote on this site, and another site grabbed it all and made money off the subscription with no credit to you. None. They made $$$$$$$ off advertising, off traffic, off selling identities and information (metrics), became credible and had legitimate content too (again, mostly taken from other sources). And no way to stop it. How would you feel?
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| | | Re: Downhill from here.. Like he needs to find a better way to drive traffic to his site?
If his site doesn't suck and gives users what they are looking for in an easy, inexpensive, and non-intrusive manner then he has nothing to worry about. If his content is desired but he makes it difficult, expensive and a pain in the butt to access, then people will look elsewhere. Imagine if Karl required a locally installed ad spewing piece of software to access his articles.
Interestingly enough there are dozens of sites out there that do rip off all of karl's posts (among other sites) aggregate it and pump search engines for results and make money. | |
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| | It's not all a big conspiracy Karl, you are getting a little too conspiracy theory minded for my liking.
I have a hard time connecting the dots that the entertainment industry was really so worried that megabox was going to become some uber indie label that would render their labels useless. It really just a copy of Google Music's Indie hub model anyway, and I can't see how it was going to some credible threat to their bottom line.
I would be more swayed by your anti-government, anti-entertainment industry rants if you did not take the sides of the pirates every time. Megaupload is accurately described above as making money by peddling content they don't own, and offering nothing new or creative to the world.
Seems like you wouldn't be happy unless all content was freely shared, which I can't see as a model that would finance the production of a movie. | |
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Freaking amazing.
Imagine if they put this kind of energy into real world problems like the Financial industry. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: With Government... or education, technology, free energy. We the people elect our representatives, so that they can represent the corporations to us. | |
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Again, critics charge MegaUpload wasn't simply crushed by the government for breaking the law. If the government truly cared about the law, they would have actually punished the financial industry for running a con so massive they caused global economies to collapse. If the government truly cared about the law, they wouldn't work in concert with companies like AT&T to break surveillance and privacy law at every conceivable opportunity. The idea that this police action was solely about the "LAW" (TM) is a simplistic aerial view of the global police action taken last week in the shadows of SOPA protests.
QFT -- Brilliant!!
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I wont even consider buying CD's or DVD's, but to support this clown is a travesty.
This guy who ran megaupload was a complete tool. He routinely profited off everyone and anything that wasn't his. Sure he was somewhat computer savvy, but by no means a trailblazer.
There is no conspiracy here. Megaupload/kim was screwing people out of funds for years, and the US justice department finally had enough of it (yes, the Movie/Music industry might of help bring it to attention, but it wasnt out of line on their part). If the German courts would of had some brass 10 years ago, this clown would of been incarcerated long ago. Stealing millions via insider trading fraud, bank fraud, and openly bragging about stealing money from real companies....wow. Probation both times Germany...? What a deal...
He made companies, hyped them, then dumped them to other investors while promising he was infusing cash. When things got hot, he dropped out of site and relocated to a new location using fake names, addresses and dead ends. Hell, he screwed the webartists and programmers that made his "awesome" promo sites.
This guy is trash. I heard about him back during the first couple gumball races and his "wealth" peaked my interests in what this guy actually did. After visiting his site, it was clear he was a sham. I am blown away investors actually gave him capital.
OMG he is an awesome street racer....wtf. This guy came in first in that crap shoot of a race because he completely threw safety and rules to the wind. Sure, a lot of people drove 200mph+ on open straights, but this clown didn't care at all. It was reported that he was running people off the road and setting pics into dangerous objects. His lifestyle isn't even that awesome. Go ride the coattails of a couple of millionaires for a weekend party and tell me how it is.
Good riddance. This guy didn't help any of us. That crap SOPA was designed for clowns like this. We all suffer now. /so annoyed. | |
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| | "adhering to takedown requests" uhh no they weren't. the website icefilms, for example, had thousands of links to megaupload for all kinds of movies and TV shows that certainly were copyright infringement. | |
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1 edit | Ah, it all becomes clear.... Another reason... they were about to do an end-run around the content distribution monopoly. So send out the jack-booted thugs with the marching orders: Search and Destroy.
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4 edits | Here's the bottom line: Here's the bottom line:
On one side of the room is 'Old Hollywood' who wants you to pay 20 bucks a ticket to see their movies. That's the ONLY way they want you to see them! Same thing with the music industry-the RIAA and record companies want to sell you little metallic disks at 20 dollars a pop.
On the other side of the room is the rest of us. We want our content when WE want it and in a form that WE want to use it.
WE want to be able to buy ONE song for a dollar instead of being forced to pay 19 dollars more and get a bunch of songs we DON'T want! WE want to be able to listen to music on our phones and music players. WE want to be able to see TV shows and movies at OUR convenience and at realistic prices (and also be able to drink our own drinks and eat our own popcorn!).
NOW---most industries would realize that the 'Customer is King!' For example, restaurants know that if they serve food that customers don't want, they will be out of business. Circuit City learned the hard way that if you don't serve the customer well they will vote with their feet.
BUT the movie and music industries are arrogant f**ks. They don't CARE what the consumer wants. They say: "Our way or the highway". AND they have discovered something else (from the Mafia by the way): If you (can) get a politician and/or judge or two in your pocket, you don't HAVE to market to consumer desires-you can force the consumer to have to do it your way. I guess that Circuit City didn't have any politicians in their pocket so they could direct law enforcement to bring guns and raid their competition out of business.
I guess it's much easier to take a few million dollars and bribe Congress and the courts to force the consumer to bend to YOUR will then to actually market TO the consumer!
Even better, you can get the Govt. to crush any upstart competition FOR you (for free!) -an unexpected bonus!
And this is exactly what they do.....
Here in Pennsylvania, wine and liquor sales are a state monopoly. The stores open (and close) when THEY want to (and they all closed at 8PM on New Year's eve!). They're closed on every holiday, including minor ones ("bank" holidays). They are open 10 AM until 9 PM Mon-Sat and Noon - 5 PM on Sundays. The store clerks mostly have bad attitudes (again-WE are there to serve THEM, not the other way around), are all unionized, make over $60,000 a year with overtime, and have vacation, health and pension plans that most of us would envy. It's almost impossible to get something that they don't stock (and the stock varies from store to store). And we pay some of the highest prices in the country.
Sound familiar? It's JUST like the model the RIAA and MPAA want!
No competition. Take it or leave it.
Yet, where there is competition it's a completely different story. In NJ Stores are open 8AM until 11 PM every day including major holidays. Stock is great and prices average 30% lower then PA.
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It's clear the problem here it's copyright itself, it needs to be reworked completely (or just get rid of it, really) to accommodate this little thing we call reality.
Current copyright laws are obsolete, and it's only going to get EASIER to copy stuff...
Next up is real products you can actually touch.
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