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join:2003-12-04 Banks, OR | 1 DVD's worth of data per day ... That's all you get at the higher speed.
Any more than that, and you may decide you don't need to buy their TV services from them...  | |
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join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN
| Re: 1 DVD's worth of data per day ... said by PDXPLT :That's all you get at the higher speed. Any more than that, and you may decide you don't need to buy their TV services from them... Not sure about Neltfliz but I know movies downloaded from Amazon, PSN, XBL or Itunes wouldn't exceed 2 GB if it was a 2 hour movie for 480p. 3 GB a day is 90 GB a month. kind of low in my opinion better than what TW and at&t have in mind. and at last instead of rediculous overage fees they jst throttle you down( which is smarter if you whole suppoed reqasoning for caps in the first place is preserving network capacity ).
You still get internet access at 1.5 Mbps if you exceed the cap. You post infers you wouldn't be able to use your connection once you exceeded 3 GB. you still can. | |
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join:2008-08-08 Parkville, MD 1 edit | 1 NetFlix movie is 2.68GB 1 NetFlix movie is 2.68GB (assuming 3.2Mb/sec, 2 hour movie). | |
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join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN
| Re: 1 NetFlix movie is 2.68GB So in other words you could watch 2 movies a day and still have 400 MB left over. Even going over you could still technically watch your 1500 Kbps stream only your throttled 1.5 Mbps connection. That being said, I think 5 GB a day should be the bare minimum. Though I suspect that 97% of their customewrs at this point won't notice a difference. In 2 years who knows. | |
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join:2008-08-08 Parkville, MD
| Nope, I have the Roku player. It goes up to 3.2 or 3.3 Mb/sec. Came with the HD update. Press home, home, home, home, home, rw, rw, rw, ff, ff to select a speed. Or does that give extra health?  | |
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join:2002-06-08 Hudsonville, MI
·AT&T Midwest
| Re: 1 NetFlix movie is 2.68GB Roku might use the version of the movies that require IE+Windows to use on a computer. The "old" 3.2Mb/s stream is supposedly lower quality than the "new" silverlight/VC-1 1.5Mb/s stream. I imagine Netflix will eventually ditch the old player so they don't have to maintain two of everything. | |
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join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN
| said by AstroBoy :Nope, I have the Roku player. It goes up to 3.2 or 3.3 Mb/sec. Came with the HD update. Press home, home, home, home, home, rw, rw, rw, ff, ff to select a speed. Or does that give extra health? My car's speedometer goes up to 140 Mph. Doesn't mean it'll ever go that fast. | |
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@cox.net
| Re: 1 NetFlix movie is 2.68GB quote: My car's speedometer goes up to 140 Mph. Doesn't mean it'll ever go that fast.
Not a very good analogy at all.
Did you purchase that car with the promise it would go up to 140mph? No you did't. Its like saying I purchased my computer with a Gig-E ethernet jack, so I expect it to go that fast all the time. The analogy just doesn't work. More than likely your car won't even go that fast, due to a limit of the tires - that will be limited by the computer.
Did folks enter into an agreement for unlimited internet at "speeds up to 10 meg down / 5 up" (or for the nazis, insert your speeds you were led to believe to be 24/7 and unlimited here), yes. | |
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 |  robl27 Premium join:2008-07-16 Mary Esther, FL | Re: An anonymous poster says throttling; another says no well, it's mixed view, (pointless rant) i still wish that annon posts are not allowed
just like any forum, requires a registration.
-Rob | |
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  hayabusa3303 Over 200 mph Premium join:2005-06-29 clubs: | .. this is better than metering the piss out of you. | |
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@QWEST.NET
| half today next later Do not have this company. i am actually low on usage lately. Thing is I downloaded windows 7 beta that would have put me over the limit for them even if only a once a month thing. mmmmm Hope my dsl provider does not try this. I may max out for a week then go deed for weeks. Under a monthly limit but by the day. ugh. Download half a thing today next part tomorrow. | |
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join:2008-11-20 Pleasant Hill, MO | Re: half today next later If this happens to my ISP i'm getting t1, as i'v been told tis unlimmited usage. | |
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 |  |  RadioDoc 58ef2c0 Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11 | Re: half today next later Unlimited at 1.5 megabits/second, and with hefty ISP fees. -- Toolmaster of La Grange. | |
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join:2008-11-20 Pleasant Hill, MO | Re: half today next later Still unlimited. | |
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join:2001-02-26 antarctica | Re: half today next later It would be cheaper to buy 5 or 6 seperate DSL lines and max each of their caps out than to get a T1. | |
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join:2005-09-01
| said by me1212 :Still unlimited. And the default running speed is equal to that of this company's AFTER hitting the cap. | |
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join:2003-10-15 Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| Depends on what you call Hefty ISP fees. the Data part is actually included with the local loop. The only ones that seem to charge outragous fees are AT&T (not the ACC side) and VZ.
If you use another provider its always less. I can have a T1 for under 450 per month all included.
Hell I can get almost a full T3 from Cognet for the same price as an AT$T T1. | |
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join:2008-11-20 Pleasant Hill, MO | Re: half today next later I'm not looking at the cost right now, i'm just saying that if got got that it would ne there if I needed it. Assuming that the other isps put lockout caps on. | |
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join:2003-10-15 Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
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| i didnt say residential T1. I said cheaper than ATT. Which almost all T1s are cheaper than what ATT wants when you order them from ATT.
When i ordered mine ATT wanted $1500 for it for a 3 year contract. Qwest wanted $550 for the same thing. ATT wanted 500 just for data. | |
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join:2003-10-15 Cleveland, OH | Re: half today next later the main story may be about residential access but the poster did NOT say anything about T1 being for residential. I just stated the fact that ATT is higher priced for T1s. | |
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join:2003-10-15 Cleveland, OH | Re: half today next later I won't give up and i wasn't ranting. I was just stating a fact. ATT T1s are more than what other carriers charge. | |
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join:2008-08-08 Parkville, MD | A T1 is really really slow! Buy 10 DSL lines and switch when you reach the limit. 10 DSL lines will cost less than 1 T1. | |
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join:2003-08-11 Hilliard, OH | Re: half today next later not to mention the T1 is slower than the 1.5 "capped" speed... | |
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@comcast.net
thumbs down from: GOLFnSUN 
| The end of the internet as I said before this is the end of the internet as we know it and one more reason I am leaving the USA. Hell at least in China we don't get capped or throttled we might have problems in other areas but at least we get "Unlimited Usage" and none of this cap bullshit | |
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join:2004-02-05 New York, NY
| Re: The end of the internet said by Omega :said by pc user :
as I said before this is the end of the internet as we know it and one more reason I am leaving the USA. Hell at least in China we don't get capped or throttled we might have problems in other areas but at least we get "Unlimited Usage" and none of this cap bullshit And you think the great firewall of China is better? I would take an easily-bypassed censoring system over such ridiculously tiny bandwidth caps any day. | |
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| Re: The end of the internet said by Xizer :said by Omega :said by pc user :
as I said before this is the end of the internet as we know it and one more reason I am leaving the USA. Hell at least in China we don't get capped or throttled we might have problems in other areas but at least we get "Unlimited Usage" and none of this cap bullshit And you think the great firewall of China is better? I would take an easily-bypassed censoring system over such ridiculously tiny bandwidth caps any day. So why are you still in NY then?? Please leave.. | |
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join:2002-10-02 PwnZone | hes using time warner, which is unlimited still | |
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@mdsg-pacwest.com | It is irrelevant if their censorship system is 'easily bypassed.' You don't want to find out what happens if they take an interest in why you're bypassing it. | |
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join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN
| said by pc user :
as I said before this is the end of the internet as we know it and one more reason I am leaving the USA. Hell at least in China we don't get capped or throttled we might have problems in other areas but at least we get "Unlimited Usage" and none of this cap bullshit Let's se Bush is finally out of office and NOW you're leaving? Also to leave the US because SOME areas have caps is stupid. My area doesn't have caps. Sure at&t is testing caps. it may be 2 years before they have them and ther is also Charter in my area. No caps by them. Sure Comcast has caps, but really 250 GB is plenty for people right now. | |
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join:2006-06-09 Saint Louis, MO | You should be looking at countries like Sweden, where 25mbit is minimum and some areas are able to get 1000mbit, uncapped internet for a fairly decent price. Now, why can't we do that here? | |
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| Re: The end of the internet said by Tarball :You should be looking at countries like Sweden, where 25mbit is minimum and some areas are able to get 1000mbit, uncapped internet for a fairly decent price. Now, why can't we do that here? CORPORATE GREED -- When I gez aju zavateh na nalechoo more new yonooz tonigh molinigh - Ken Lee | |
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join:2006-07-17 Seattle, WA | So glad. .....that i no longer work for Wave Broadband. Good luck at getting any straight answers out of customer service, or tech support, those with skills dont stay with the company very long. | |
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join:2003-10-21 Edmonton, AB
·TELUS
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| And microsoft thinks streaming video is the way to go? Quite often on Broadband Reports you hear of more and more ISP's restricting bandwidth. And companies like MS saying downloaded movies are the way to go, bluray will never catch on, its all about downloads.
ISP's over the last years seemed to focus so much on the speed of the connection, they ignored the throughput. You don't really need 10mbps to surf the web. Websurfing at 3mbps is pretty speedy. You need the speed for downloading large files. So they spent years developing the speed, only to have system that can't really support it, or have no need for it.
It just bums me out that ISP's do this. Whats the point of high internet speeds if you can use the bandwidth. Why does the goverment continute to put an emphasis on speed? | |
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join:2006-06-09 Saint Louis, MO
| Re: And microsoft thinks streaming video is the way to go? With more and more websites using higher bandwidth content like flash and videos, instead of just text and small images, 3mbps isn't as "speedy" as it was a few years ago. It seems like a lot of ISPs just started offering higher speeds without actually having the network to support all their users fully using those high speeds. Now that people are using them, they're having to cap since their network can't support it.
As for the government putting emphasis on speed, it's probably because many other countries surpass us in broadband speeds. | |
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join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN
| said by zod5000 :Quite often on Broadband Reports you hear of more and more ISP's restricting bandwidth. And companies like MS saying downloaded movies are the way to go, bluray will never catch on, its all about downloads. MS only says this because HD-DVD lost. They bet on the wrong horse. And actually if the XBOX 360 came with a HD-DVD drive HD-DVD would have beaten blu-ray.
Even without caps movie downloads are over a decade away from being the way to go. 20% of the country lives in areas where there isn't a broadband option. ( Sorry satellite and mobile doesn't count ). Even in areas with broadband, half the people only have connection of 3 Mbps or less. Hardly the speed required for downloading. As long as ISPs either do not serve or underserved most of the country downloading was going nowhere. Add caps to the equation and I'd be surprised if downloading is a serious contender in 2020. | |
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join:2008-01-23 Jewett City, CT | Fine, cut the price I have no problem with this if it includes a hefty price cut. You're clearly getting less, you should pay less. | |
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join:2005-10-30 Portsmouth, VA
·Cox HSI
| 1.5 Mb isn't too bad... At least they don't threaten to cancel you, and 1.5 Mb really isn't that bad at all, unless that speed has its own cap, then it's a problem.
Though I would much rather prefer a monthly cap than a daily cap. They should switch it to 90GB per month IMO. | |
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·Comcast
| I learned something new today :) I had never heard of this company until this post, and I didn't know they had service in Garberville, about 80 miles north of me in Humboldt County. The rest of Humboldt County is served by SuddenLink, formerly Cox, and we're Comcast (formerly Adelphia) here in Mendocino County. They also appear to cover the West Sacramento, Lincoln, Rocklin, Woodland and Portola areas. | |
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join:2003-04-10 Tucker, GA | . Sweden is tiny, not hard to build out a densely populated area .. look at Japan.
I bet Verizon FIOS has around the same buildout area as the country of Sweden. Also in Sweden boardband is subsidized i beleve. | |
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join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN
4 edits | Re: . said by bilbusb :Sweden is tiny, not hard to build out a densely populated area .. look at Japan. I bet Verizon FIOS has around the same build out area as the country of Sweden. Also in Sweden boardband is subsidized i beleve. You don't know very much about Sweden. Japan is the size of Montana hardly tiny. Sweden is even larger. Sweden is larger than California. 22,000 square miles larger. About the size of West Virgina larger.
Densely populated? Sweden has total of 9 million people. Sweden has the population density of Oklahoma which is 36th out of 50 states. And has the pop density about 2/3 that of the US. Only 55% if you only count the 48 contiguous states. Sweden is as far north as Alaska so it cold most of the time and has lots of mountainous terrain. So to say it's "easy" to build out there is very ignorant.
And yes Sweden's broadband is subsidized by the government and they get some of the best connections in the world. what's wrong with that? Nobody in the US wants teh government to fund anything unless it halps THEM then all of sudden it's ok. Otherwise it's waste of "their" tax $$$. Most people don't hardly pay any income taxes anyways and already get more than what they pay for so they should STFU already. Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, yeah maybe they have a right to complain about stuff. They don't. Hmmmm. | |
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·Skype
| Forget HD from PSN 3GB a day. That would make purchasing or renting the HD version of a movie from the Playstation store a bit of a PITA. 5+ GB for those.
At least you could still update the maps on your Garmin Nuvi (~2GB) . . . -- Tradition: Just because you've always done it that way doesn't mean it's not incredibly stupid. --despair.com | |
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@pge.com | at least it's something I am lucky to get 1.5Mbps on my fixed wireless, and my Covad T1 averaged about 900Kbps (AT&T blamed wet lines)... I am hardly in the country there are 40,000 people in my city. Our country is going down the crapper... | |
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@arcadehub.com
| "News" not very accurate A few customers are complaining, but I'm also seeing some posts about people who are pounding the hell out of their connections, and not getting capped or throttled at all.
»Re: WaveBroadband Torrent Throttling??!!! | |
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@arcadehub.com | "News" seems to be not really "news" but debate.. Some users report capping, some say not ( »Re: WaveBroadband Torrent Throttling??!!! ). How does this qualify as "news?" It seems pretty much the same as every other thread out there. | |
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@wavecable.com | Re: "News" seems to be not really "news" but debate.. This is news. Some markets are capped some are not, this has been confirmed. | |
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@wellsfargo.com
| Throttling I posted in the WaveBroadband forums on this and I'll post it here.
Astound (WaveBroadband) is throttling heavily in my market of Bay Area in California. I can download 3 GB and then I drop to 150kbps. The claims of 1.5mbps are inaccurate for my market. I have the 10mbps plan and I will routinely see speeds of 4-5 mbps during peak times and can never achieve a full throughput.
150kbps seems to only be for file downloading. The throttling for my case is usenet and others have confirmed BT also. This throttling is so severe that I cannot even download more than a handful of TV shows from usenet at a time before capping. I watch HD NOVA, National Geographic, fan subbed foreign shows, and other misc usenet use.
The total throughput for me is 4.6 GB per day if left to continuous use after capping. This is still very extreme compared to Comcast's policy but nowhere near as draconian as the pending AT&T caps they are testing. You'd be lucky to pull 125GB a month with this throttling for reaching a 3GB cap. I'd be more than happy to get a sustained 1.5mbps for hitting a cap but 150kbps is a slap in the face. | |
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@surewest.net
| Re: Throttling WAVE BROADBAND UPDATE !
Out with the daily caps and in with the harsh monthly ones.
18/2 - As posted on their site it's 300GB/month + $$ overage 10/1 - 100GB/month + $$ 6/1 - 50GB/month + $$
hahahaha. 50GB. That's like... you can't do crap and you're paying overage. | |
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@astound.net | bs my 10mbps has been throttled down to 4.5mbps weaaaak... | |
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join:2009-01-31 Seattle, WA
| Wave Division Holdings LLC - Capping Be very patient my friends. We are installing a new CMTS that will end the capping. Know the difference in capping and and an over loaded node. You may have a poor signal. Most of you that are complaining aren't being capped at all. If you think you are being capped. Logon to the websites and look at your usage. | |
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join:2003-02-24 Concord, CA
| Re: Wave Division Holdings LLC - Capping Gary,
I'd LOVE to use the website to check my usage, but I only get the option to manage e-mail addresses. That is directly from the link in the terms and conditions.
I haven't seen throttling yet, but it'd be nice to know where I stand. Kind of a pain, as I am a GIS student with a major project that requires large amounts of data.
I like Astound/Wave, and hope that this is only a temporary issue. | |
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