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by Revcb 06:57PM Wednesday Dec 21 2011

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CaptainRR
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join:2006-04-21
Blue Rock, OH
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·Verizon Wireless..

1 recommendation

Average webpage now 1MB

I can agree on this one. A few years ago on my rural dialup I could get by but now there are a lot of web pages that are nearly impossible to get onto without broadband that I cant get. Even at&t's web page that I have to go into once in a wile to do bills can take a half an hour to get up and they even own the lousy telephone line!

FFH
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join:2002-03-03
Tavistock NJ
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Re: Average webpage now 1MB

said by CaptainRR:

I can agree on this one. A few years ago on my rural dialup I could get by but now there are a lot of web pages that are nearly impossible to get onto without broadband that I cant get. Even at&t's web page that I have to go into once in a wile to do bills can take a half an hour to get up and they even own the lousy telephone line!

Run the Opera browser for windows and turn on Turbo option. That lets a remote server compress data before sending it to home computer over a dial-up line.
»www.opera.com/browser/features/#speed
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Chubbysumo

join:2009-12-01
Superior, WI
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·Charter

1 recommendation

Re: Average webpage now 1MB

I think average is a bit small. The majority of the websites that I visit are in the range of 2MB or more. For the guy on dial up, try getting Firefox with no script and Adblock plus. This should help with load times, since you will not be loading ads that you don't want to view anyways.

88615298
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join:2004-07-28
West Tenness

Re: Average webpage now 1MB

said by Chubbysumo:

since you will not be loading ads that you don't want to view anyways.

I don't want to pay the $8 it cost to see a movie so I should sneak in anyways.
Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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Mullica Hill, NJ
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Re: Average webpage now 1MB

Since ad blocking is just so the same as sneaking into a movie...
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88615298
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West Tenness

Re: Average webpage now 1MB

said by Kearnstd:

Since ad blocking is just so the same as sneaking into a movie...

The point is websites aren't cost free to the owners. The have 2 ways of covering cost and god forbid try to make a profit. A) charging a subscription. B) advertising. By blocking ads you are causing them to lose a source of revenue. Now if you want a future wheer all website cahrge a subcription well that's you, most of us would rather it no be that way. The fact is when you go to site for FREE you do so on the agreement that you put up with ads. If you do not wish to put up with ads you are free into not go to that site again. Too many people today have this entitlement attitude that everything is supposed to be provided for free. Like welfare and foodstamps. Frankly it makes me sad for the future and I am tired of it.
Chubbysumo

join:2009-12-01
Superior, WI
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·Charter

Re: Average webpage now 1MB

said by 88615298:

said by Kearnstd:

Since ad blocking is just so the same as sneaking into a movie...

The point is websites aren't cost free to the owners. The have 2 ways of covering cost and god forbid try to make a profit. A) charging a subscription. B) advertising. By blocking ads you are causing them to lose a source of revenue. Now if you want a future wheer all website cahrge a subcription well that's you, most of us would rather it no be that way. The fact is when you go to site for FREE you do so on the agreement that you put up with ads. If you do not wish to put up with ads you are free into not go to that site again. Too many people today have this entitlement attitude that everything is supposed to be provided for free. Like welfare and foodstamps. Frankly it makes me sad for the future and I am tired of it.

Dont get me wrong, I know ads support many a site, but I block the ones that are intrusive. I cant stand it when I go to a site like youtube, and instead of getting 50 popups, I get 50 popunders and frames, and shit that I have to click thru to get to my website that I originally wanted to see. Sure, I could leave them on, but why the hell would I want to? Those ads track you via zombie cookies, and then they sell your clickstream data to someoneone else. Adblockplus has a setting to allow non-intrusive ads, and I do. I even disable it on sites that I know dont have intrusive ads. Its the damn major sites like facebook now that are getting just as bad as it was before popup blockers. Im sure you remember the days of dial-up, when you went to open a page, and 50 other popups opened too. This is getting just as bad as it was then, but with other forms of intrusive advertisements(ghost frames, moving ads, sound, flashing, shit like that, its like a trip back to 1998, except instead of a freaking popup, its a page within a page). If you do have ads blocked, it can help speed up the loading of a web page significantly, and can cut the amount of overall data used by half. If I wanted to visit youtube to see ads between my shows, I would just watch the freaking ads. im there to watch a video, not ads, and if they annoy me, im blocking them. Its not entitlement, its my personal choice. If you want to watch them, go ahead, but ads alone do not support a site, and even a shitty site will die, and good sites usually dont have ads in the first place. DSLr doesnt have intrusive ads, does it? Also, website hosting is cheap now, running about $10 per year for the domain name reg, and then about another $5 per month for a low bandwidth site(like the personal site I run for my family, and our email).
Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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Mullica Hill, NJ
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said by 88615298:

said by Kearnstd:

Since ad blocking is just so the same as sneaking into a movie...

The point is websites aren't cost free to the owners. The have 2 ways of covering cost and god forbid try to make a profit. A) charging a subscription. B) advertising. By blocking ads you are causing them to lose a source of revenue. Now if you want a future wheer all website cahrge a subcription well that's you, most of us would rather it no be that way. The fact is when you go to site for FREE you do so on the agreement that you put up with ads. If you do not wish to put up with ads you are free into not go to that site again. Too many people today have this entitlement attitude that everything is supposed to be provided for free. Like welfare and foodstamps. Frankly it makes me sad for the future and I am tired of it.

if the people deploying the ads could have been responsible there would not have been a need for blockers. Instead the ad networks cared more about revenue than reputation and are now one of the number one sources of malware and scareware even to visitors of legit websites.

Just go to pretty much any computer security person and they will warn that you should have a browser with noscript and adblock to be secure.
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CXM_Splicer
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NYC
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>The point is websites aren't cost free to the owners. The have 2 ways of covering cost and god forbid try to make a profit. A) charging a subscription. B) advertising.

Actually, you left off the third method which is when the owner funds the website them self. Most web pages are there for the benefit of the person producing the page. If they wish to derive this benefit, why should I fund their page by viewing ads? If there is no real benefit to the page creator (they wish to provide information or such) then there are many inexpensive hosting sites where it will cost them a minimal amount of money. There are also free sites which are ad based but which are not producing revenue for the page owner. The agreement is that the page owner allows the ads on the page in exchange for free hosting... it has no effect on a third party choosing to view or to block those ads.

>The fact is when you go to site for FREE you do so on the agreement that you put up with ads.

Where is this agreement? I have never (nor will I ever) agree to this. This is just as ridiculous as telling someone they have agreed to watch all the commercials if they want to watch a TV show.

Too many people today have this entitlement attitude that everything is supposed to provide revenue. Frankly it makes me sad for the future and I am tired of it.
VerizonCynic

join:2006-10-25
Lakewood, CA

149; AT&T: The inevitable duopoly? [CNN.com]

Sort of like most other things in the USA. The problem facing the world is that cos are just getting too big and too powerful and thru that power they can manipulate the govt and the media. Competition is really a farce in these duopoly situations. ATT is now claiming they have no spectrum thanks to the merger failing. Where do these att marketing/lobbying people come up with this stuff. Next there will be a shortage of atoms. The reality is most people have no clue as to what is BS and what is not.

If the govt wants more competitors lets break up the bells again like we did in 1984. that worked so well.
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CXM_Splicer
Looking at the bigger picture
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NYC
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1 recommendation

Re: 149; AT&T: The inevitable duopoly? [CNN.com]

Agreed, and I would even take it one step further to say a Verizon/AT&T merger wouldn't be unheard of either (although it would be very expensive to get approved!)

I really don't understand the highly limited thinking of these 'Free Market' advocates. When corporations accumulate finances in the billions they move beyond free market because they can manipulate the rules. The free market only functions with competition; large corporations HATE competition and will do everything possible to destroy it. Buy-outs, mergers, malicious practices... how many mom & pop stores have been deliberately run out of business by Walmart? The free market dictates that if Walmart is so profitable, there should be more stores like them... not less. The closest thing is maybe Target and they are WAY behind (Walmart/Target merger anyone?) Sorry but the Free Market simply doesn't work at that level.

Small business should be encouraged.

Large business should be regulated and taxed.

Mega business should be heavily regulated and pay mega tax.

It does not discourage business, cost jobs, raise prices... all the things they whine about; that is a lie to scare people away from wanting it that way.
VerizonCynic

join:2006-10-25
Lakewood, CA

Re: 149; AT&T: The inevitable duopoly? [CNN.com]

wal mart:
»www.businessinsider.com/walmart-···-2011-11

newview
Ex .. Ex .. Exactly
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join:2001-10-01
Parsonsburg, MD
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Reviews:
·DIRECTV
·Comcast

1 recommendation

RIAA: Someone Else Is Pirating Through Our IP-Addresses

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A few days ago we reported that no less than 6 IP-addresses registered to the RIAA had been busted for downloading copyrighted material. Quite a shocker to everyone – including the music industry group apparently – as they are now using a defense previously attempted by many alleged file-sharers. It wasn’t members of RIAA staff who downloaded these files, the RIAA insists, it was a mysterious third party vendor who unknowingly smeared the group’s good name.
So ... that's now a viable excuse if "we" get a DMCA letter from our ISP?
What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

anon6

@comcast.net

riaa caught with torrents

funny how when they are caught they make up an excuse. hahahaha, you suckers got caught doing the same thing you accuse average joes of doing.

anon6

@comcast.net

riaa caught pirating

can I ask why its ok for them to do it? if they can do it why can't anyone else?