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| Re: At the new Government Motors... said by KrK  :This is epic fail. I wait for him to try his plans to monopolize transportation. His first move will probably be to suggest GM buy Chrysler! Hell, that's how he did it at SBC...... You got it all wrong!
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| Re: At the new Government Motors... said by Jeffrey :Amazing how GM came out of it so quickly. I guess when proper wheels are greased...pun intended. Punny you should mention that.....
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| Re: At the new Government Motors... said by Jeffrey :said by NY Tel :said by Jeffrey :Amazing how GM came out of it so quickly. I guess when proper wheels are greased...pun intended. Punny you should mention that..... Yes that is because they had someone to steer them in the right direction, not put the brakes on prematurely to help them shift their corporate direction so they could convert (able) to a much leaner company. I wonder what the catalyst was? Nicely done. I figured it would "spark" a response. | |
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| Re: At the new Government Motors... said by Jeffrey :I don't know man, I sorta feel the way you do, but boy I saw a Challenger SRT8 today in orange...wow. That's one thing Detroit has going for it, styling. But the car buying public rendered its negative judgment on the Big 3 a long time ago.
Even if Detroit did not have lingering quality problems, the market for cars simply isn't big enough to sustain the number of car companies that currently exist. If a company can't make a product that people will buy, then it has to fold. That is supposed to the American way.
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| Re: At the new Government Motors... said by pnh102 :said by Jeffrey :I don't know man, I sorta feel the way you do, but boy I saw a Challenger SRT8 today in orange...wow. That's one thing Detroit has going for it, styling. But the car buying public rendered its negative judgment on the Big 3 a long time ago. I agree. I drove a Chrysler 300 with the V8 in 2006 and it was a piece of shit.
said by pnh102 :Even if Detroit did not have lingering quality problems, the market for cars simply isn't big enough to sustain the number of car companies that currently exist. If a company can't make a product that people will buy, then it has to fold. That is supposed to the American way. I agree that GM had too many divisions that produced cars that were too similar. Other manufacturers got it right.
I'd love to be able to "buy American" again. For now, I own a car from a foreign company but built in TN. For me, that's good enough until Detroit can show me otherwise.
While I love the Challenger, I haven't driven it, and I wonder if it's similar in form/function to the 300/Charger. With that said, I don't have the money or will for a 3rd car, and without a midlife crisis, the Challenger is out.
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| Re: At the new Government Motors... said by Jeffrey :I'd love to be able to "buy American" again. For now, I own a car from a foreign company but built in TN. For me, that's good enough until Detroit can show me otherwise. I like how many "foreign" car makes build vehicles in the US with US workers. Don't forget that while "foreign" car companies have been building more cars in the US that Detroit has been moving more manufacturing outside of the US.
Personally I don't see Honda or Toyota as foreign car companies anymore because they've been building cars in the US for quite some time now.
I also hope that Ford crushes GM and Chrysler out of existence. At least Ford is trying to do the right thing.
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| Re: At the new Government Motors... said by pnh102 :said by Jeffrey :I'd love to be able to "buy American" again. For now, I own a car from a foreign company but built in TN. For me, that's good enough until Detroit can show me otherwise. I like how many "foreign" car makes build vehicles in the US with US workers. Don't forget that while "foreign" car companies have been building more cars in the US that Detroit has been moving more manufacturing outside of the US. Personally I don't see Honda or Toyota as foreign car companies anymore because they've been building cars in the US for quite some time now. I also hope that Ford crushes GM and Chrysler out of existence. At least Ford is trying to do the right thing. Well I can't believe they have Ed Whiteacre running GM. Words can't do it justice but it is almost as bad as Chrysler giving the guy a job (the former CEO) after allegedly destroying Home Depot.
I agree, If I were mandated to buy American, It would be a Ford which is a 180 for me since I used to be a GM supporter until I realized that my cars were supposed fall apart years AFTER the payments stopped, not before. | |
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| Re: At the new Government Motors... Frankly speaking, I don't care who I buy from. Ultimately, at the end of the day, I'd like to see 100% of my money go toward an American company.
With that said, my Dad bought American from 1964 until 1995. Bought an Audi. Grass was greener, but not by a large margin. Then, he bought a Nissan. God damn thing is a tank.
For me, I was born in 1975. I graciously accepted hand-me-downs of whatever I was offered, in my case a 1981 Olds Cutlass Supreme which, at 18 I loved. I'm not sure it was safe to drive, but hell, it got me places. In 1996 my parents gave me a 1991 Olds Cultlass Supreme, and again, grateful. Not the best thing in the world, and I had to tinker and replace certain things, but whatever. When I was older, I bought a VW, and unless I hear that VW makes the best thing since sliced bread, VW/Audi will never, ever get another dime from me.
Right now, and since 2003, I drive Nissans simply because they work, and don't need jack shit except oil changes and regular maintenance.
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| said by NY Tel :Well I can't believe they have Ed Whiteacre running GM. To be fair, Ed probably knows as much about cars as the last set of executives who were running the company.
said by NY Tel :I agree, If I were mandated to buy American, It would be a Ford which is a 180 for me since I used to be a GM supporter until I realized that my cars were supposed fall apart years AFTER the payments stopped, not before. I am sure you probably know this but for anyone else who is curious, you can tell where your car was made simply by looking at the first character of the VIN. If it is a 1, 4 or 5, it was made in the USA.
As for the reliability issues... my mom's family still drives Pontiacs... and they are on a first name basis with the mechanic because they visit him so often. In this day and age, the fact that such a relationship can even happen is in itself an indictment of GM and Chrysler.
I am just so happy Ford is at least trying to do the right thing. I might even take them off my ban list if their quality continues to improve, though it will be a long time before I can afford a pickup truck. 
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So what's the excuse of the American owned car companies for building shoddy products year after year? It can't be the North American nationality of the factory workers. It has to be in upper management. | |
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| "I like how many "foreign" car makes build vehicles in the US with US workers"
Me too, it could persuade me to buy a 'foreign' car.
"I also hope that Ford crushes GM and Chrysler out of existence. At least Ford is trying to do the right thing."
Me too, but I have always been a ford guy. A lot of my dad's friends were saying how they were going to buy a ford truck because they got better mileage than the one they were driving at the time. Also a few years ago we were talking and he said the first carco to make a truck that got 20mi+ would be the last one standing, thats about what our ford truck gets. coincidence? I think so. | |
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1 edit | Re: At the new Government Motors... Fords are terrible cars....especially if you live in an area where you have an emission standard inflicted upon you. I've had 2 Fords fail (one a Merc Sable w/56,000 mls on it and the other a Ford Windstar w/67.000 mls on it). The merc had the engine rebuilt and because I was still 1-one thousanth of over in hydrocarbons they failed me again. This cost me 2400, and I ended up junking it because the state threatens your license over it. The f***ing Winstar had to go because a $5 dollar overdrive sensor went bad. This sensor light is on the gear shifter, but these idiot engineers at Ford buried the sensor itself within the tranmission assembly. So, if I wanted the $5 part replaced, I would have had to drop the trans. Once the sensor went bad the check engine light came on automatically disqualifying me from having tested because you can't have a car tested w/the check engine light on. Never again....Ford was no help in this matter. As soon as the note was paid for ....problems.
My used F-150 was no better.....I will drive a Yugo before another Ford.
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| Re: At the new Government Motors... Wow we have never had problems like that, we had one with a bad fuel pump once but that is as bad as it got for us. Everything else has been perfect and we have had about 8 cars or so in the last 15 years, only one has not been ford. One is so cool everyone we know says tell me first of you ever sell it. | |
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| Re: At the new Government Motors... said by alchav :said by Jeffrey :said by pnh102 :I always wanted to say "I'll never ever buy a GM or Chrysler vehicle" except that I've always refused to buy those pieces of junk any way. I don't know man, I sorta feel the way you do, but boy I saw a Challenger SRT8 today in orange...wow. So GM was King in my book at one time, and I still think they are a great Company that just made some wrong decisions, and The Unions didn't help either. At $70.00 per hour, what did they expect? | |
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| Re: At the new Government Motors... I living in the metro Detroit area, hope this company can get back because as of right now hopefully some of the factories start up again why? Because without these factories a lot of businesses suffer here, including my dads, and my uncles. Detroit is totally dead right now, so many people without jobs, no one can afford anything.
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Fayetteville, NY | The Northeast US is in for more rain this w'end... which I guess is a good thing since water is the foundation of life, but damn, our summers are short enough as it is - a few days in a row of 80 plus (Fahrenheit) temperatures and sun are long over due, wouldn'tyousay? | |
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Hercules, CA | TGIF Everyone! To me, just another night... but to all of you, hope you have a Great Weekend!
Grab a cold one, sit back and relax... or maybe BBQ something.
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| a little work is better than none at all.... :D Sitting in front of the computer feeling sorry for myself (ie...lack of work,etc).
The phone rings and it's some consulting company that saw my resume online.
I'm going to be installing some new time card thingy that's attached to a computer. Hey it's not f/t, semi p/t I guess but it's money and it sure beats sitting at home sending out endless resumes and waiting for the phone to ring.
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| Re: a little work is better than none at all.... :D said by stevennb : Sitting in front of the computer feeling sorry for myself (ie...lack of work,etc). The phone rings and it's some consulting company that saw my resume online. I'm going to be installing some new time card thingy that's attached to a computer. Hey it's not f/t, semi p/t I guess but it's money and it sure beats sitting at home sending out endless resumes and waiting for the phone to ring. That is very good news, perhaps the start of an upswing of better luck for you. Also, these jobs are often "try/buy" and if you do a really good job, they might:
1. consider using you regularly for other jobs they land
2. offer you full time work or help you network to get work elsewhere.
Make your work so perfect and stellar that they talk about you.
Good things will happen.
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Ok, But, Thats The Last Straw.
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| Re: a little work is better than none at all.... :D Thanks for the kind words.
Being unemployed stinks (especially in the north east where everything is super expensive...food/rent/etc)...so this little job will at least put some money in my pocket and hopefully lead to bigger and better things.
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1 edit | Re: a little work is better than none at all.... :D said by stevennb :Thanks for the kind words. Being unemployed stinks (especially in the north east where everything is super expensive...food/rent/etc)...so this little job will at least put some money in my pocket and hopefully lead to bigger and better things. That's the right attitude. I was laid off a week before Christmas by a 3 foot tall man who had a Napoleon complex. I found work 45 days later and am totally thankful. | |
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| My week was great. How was yours? First I found chex quest 3 online. B4 I post the link I will give you some history about chex quest. It was made in 1996 and given out in boxes of chex, if was a great game if you have not played it yet I suggest you download it. In 1997 chex quest 2 came out, it was just as good as the first IMHO, but the first level had one glitch(it was fixed in CQ3 don't worry), a demo of CQ3 was on the site and a thing about CQ4(never released) a few years later the company that made chex quest went out of business.... Chex quest 3 was never finished, a fan made one came out in 1988 but it had LOT(if not all) of stuff stolen from various other .wads. and did a LOT of damage to CQ's rep. In june of 08 chex quest 3 was announced by Charles Jacobi(he name is also the no clip mode cheat for all 3 games) it was released in Sep of 08,It also includes improved(graphically) versions of Chex Quest and Chex Quest 2. you can down load it here
»chexquest.wikia.com/wiki/Chex_Quest_3 Here are the chex quest fan forums »www.chexquest.org/index.php?PHPS···c5a9;www I go by 12me91 there, and on youtube.
Second I found out if you order a studio15 from dell(found here »www.dell.com/us/en/home/notebook···ref=lthp and its only the one on the far right BTW) you can get a dell mini 10v for $150, it normally goes for $300. I plan to order mine tonight, | |
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| Vacation's over said by hayabusa3303 :I have to cut grass. Have a good one everyone. I'll trade ya - I have to go to work again on Monday, vacation's already over. Sad part - this makes 11 in a row where I got a call about something going wrong at work and no one knew what to do....
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| Recent Breaking News The Bush administration built an unprecedented surveillance operation to pull in mountains of information far beyond the warrantless wiretapping previously acknowledged, a team of federal inspectors general reported Friday, questioning the legal basis for the effort but shielding almost all details on grounds they're still too secret to reveal.
"The notion that basically one person at the Justice Department, John Yoo, and Hayden and the vice president's office were running a program around the laws that Congress passed, including a reinterpretation of the Fourth Amendment, is mind boggling," Harman said.
Ah yes, more news of our glorious former leader's illegal and secret antics. Seriously, Bush is going to go down as one of the 5 worst presidents ever. | |
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While I know I probably could save a few $ building my own, I don't want the aggravation right now, and will pay more for convenience. So, with all due respect, please don't tell me how much I could save by building my own. I know I could save a little bit, but with all of the other stuff going on right now for me, I'd rather not build.
Any positive or negatives about the device? I'd love to hear about it.
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| Saddam lied, Saddam died Cut/pasted from "The Best of the Web Today" blog by James Taranto, a couple of days ago.
Like Francisco Franco, Saddam Hussein is still dead, but
the Washington Post reports on a new (all right, newly released) series of interviews with the Iraqi dictator, who was hanged in 2006 for crimes against humanity. The Post reports that Saddam acknowledged to an FBI interviewer "that he allowed the world to believe he had weapons of mass destruction because he was worried about appearing weak to Iran":
Hussein, in fact, said he felt so vulnerable to the perceived threat from "fanatic" leaders in Tehran that he would have been prepared to seek a "security agreement with the United States to protect [Iraq] from threats in the region." . . .
Hussein noted that Iran's weapons capabilities had increased dramatically while Iraq's weapons "had been eliminated by the UN sanctions," and that eventually Iraq would have to reconstitute its weapons to deal with that threat if it could not reach a security agreement with the United States.
The bad news is that Iran continues to pursue nuclear weapons. The good news is that Iraq has reached a security agreement with the U.S.
This ought to (but will not) silence those who've been determined to rewrite history with the claim that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction were an invention of President Bush. Bush did not lie; he made a mistake--the same mistake everyone else in the world made, and a mistake Saddam, now by his own admission, encouraged them to make.
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| Re: Saddam lied, Saddam died said by MyDogHsFleas :If Saddam was a victim, it was not of American lies and aggression but of his own too-successful efforts at misdirection. I think this is a case of two bad guys contributing to a bad outcome. Saddam certainly made it easy for President Bush (Cheney?) to carry out their predetermined will. But, Saddam didn't force Bush to fabricate intelligence about Nigerian "yellow cake," etc.
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| It's Big Time baseball in St. Louis! Have a busy week planned at the Home Run Derby, All Star Game and D'Backs game Friday night with John Schnatter from Papa John's Pizza!
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