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Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!

said by garywk

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I went back to school after ~30 years in 2001 and was shocked at the political indoctrination that was going on in our public school system. I took a political science class and the teacher did nothing but teach that the US is, and always has been, evil. She would twist facts of history out of time, place, and context, time and time again, and other times just flat out lie.

I don't see that at classes I've taken at my local community and state college. What I usually see is people who've grown accustomed to "group think" who have difficulty considering alternative views.

An example is the prevalent notion that the founders opposed "big government" when the reality is that they ditched relatively libertarian "small government" (articles of confederation) after just 12 years, in favor of a relatively gargantuan government (1789 federal, constitutional government). The founding generation embraced big government like no other generation since (except, perhaps the Civil War generation who embraced coercing states into the union).

What I see is that some person's view of history is controlled by their political ideology. If they have a strong, biased political ideology they're less capable of viewing history from an unbiased viewpoint. All of history has to lead toward their current (political) worldview. Their political ideology explains history, not the other way around.

Mark

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I think they were saying that by winning the election and changing the political direction of the United States of America he's made a bigger contribution to World peace then anyone else in the world could have this year.

Actually I have a hard time disagreeing with that.
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Elcabong Cuba SI, Castro NO join:2000-03-09 Philadelphia, PA ·Comcast	Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA! said by KrK : I think they were saying that by winning the election and changing the political direction of the United States of America he's made a bigger contribution to World peace then anyone else in the world could have this year. Actually I have a hard time disagreeing with that. Roflmao
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KrK Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy Premium join:2000-01-17 Tulsa, OK ·AT&T Yahoo ·AT&T DSL Service ·Cox HSI ·AT&T Southwest	Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA! I doubt it. You come off as a very angry person when there's anything positive about Obama.... at least that's the way it reads to me.... my opinion. -- "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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Elcabong Cuba SI, Castro NO join:2000-03-09 Philadelphia, PA ·Comcast	Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA! said by KrK : I doubt it. You come off as a very angry person when there's anything positive about Obama.... at least that's the way it reads to me.... my opinion. Roflmao.
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said by KrK

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he's made a bigger contribution to World peace then anyone else in the world could have this year.

So it's the SIZE of the contribution that makes this meaningful.

I would have thought it was the EFFECTIVENESS of the contribution, using RESULTS to gauge a positive result.

Of course it wasn't any of the above. All the dialog from the Nobel-erites seems to indicate that it was awarded for what The Committee hopes O'Bama would accomplish.

In other words, the Norwegians desire to impress their influence upon future world events (as does the media).

In response, Presient O'Bama wasted - not a second - in accepting the award as a 'Call to Arms' to do exactly that. He has taken their cause as his own (until he doesn't; depending on the desires of other powers).

The lesson?
Cash and hookers aren't the only commodities in the political marketplace.

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Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!

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In other words, the Norwegians desire to impress their influence upon future world events (as does the media).

I think that's a good point. How will this award influence the President's future policy decisions? Will he put more effort into the proposals/promises which the award was based upon just so his award isn't tarnished? So it won't be "asterisked" (like that baseball player's record-breaking home run), footnoted with an explanation which diminishes the achievement?

It seems like he's been compromised.

Mark

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Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!

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The lesson: If it's about Obama, you'll have to bash away.

On every thread.

Lesson 2: Blame Bush for everything

Lesson 3: If you cannot win your argument with facts:
*fire some personal attacks
*just keep saying "you don't get it"
*or just fall back on lesson 2

Lesson 4: try to always think with your emotions instead of your head.

Lesson 5: go back to lesson 2 and repeat

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Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!

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Thanks for revealing your "discussion tips." I'll have to remember that is your blueprint for all posts.

Good thinking!

I'll send you my book "How to survive Liberal dribble"
Or the one I'm working on now "Liberal Liability"

EDIT- Obama...we don't deserve such a great President

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Rofl, all of you lefties try to defend obama with going back and blaming former presidents. But none of you can actually defend an empty suit of a liar like obama. All the democrats you have voted in the past 4 years have not kept ANY of the ideals you voted them in for:

1. No closing of Guantamo

2. No bringing the troops home

3. No ending the war in Iraq

4. No ending the war in Afghanistan

5. No global warming farce agreements with other countries

6. No transpareniy in the White House (in fact, the secrecy is worst than when Bush was in)
The list is almost endless.
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Dread Macs suck Premium join:2005-02-28 Bronx, NY	Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA! You have Fox news as an avatar, you are now irrelevant lol
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truth join:2009-08-29 1 edit	Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA! Yeah after he goes through the all the careful dissemination, its just coincidence that what he believes happens to always agree with fox news! PS: elcabong I love how you ignored my two attempts to see if you were anything but a republican/foxnews shill.
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Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!

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said by Dread

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You have Fox news as an avatar, you are now irrelevant lol

Typical first time response to an avatar i put on to piss off liberals and the moronic comments i get from people. Another one falls for it lol!

Your icon and posts fit together perfectly. We always know whatever you say it's going to be against the democrats and for the republicans. Exactly like fox news.

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said by Elcabong

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Rofl, all of you lefties try to defend obama with going back and blaming former presidents. But none of you can actually defend an empty suit of a liar like obama. All the democrats you have voted in the past 4 years have not kept ANY of the ideals you voted them in for:

1. No closing of Guantamo

2. No bringing the troops home

3. No ending the war in Iraq

4. No ending the war in Afghanistan

5. No global warming farce agreements with other countries

6. No transpareniy in the White House (in fact, the secrecy is worst than when Bush was in)
The list is almost endless.

I'm pretty sure I've stated being disappointed about this and more. You should also throw in health care in your list.

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garywk join:2001-03-06 Clarkston, WA	So, in your estimation, the correct foreign policy course for the US to pursue should be to appease its enemies and alienate its friends? As long as the Marxists and Socialists are singing Obama's praises, then he's taking the wrong course.
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Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!

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So, in your estimation, the correct foreign policy course for the US to pursue should be to appease its enemies and alienate its friends?

No, that was the policy of the former administration.. We're trying to repair that damage now, apparently some people have noticed!

Congratulations Obama!
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Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!

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said by garywk

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So, in your estimation, the correct foreign policy course for the US to pursue should be to appease its enemies and alienate its friends?

No, that was the policy of the former administration.. We're trying to repair that damage now, apparently some people have noticed!

Congratulations Obama!

Yeah, appeasing enemies who want America destroyed, and turning his back on our friends and allies while China, Iran, Russia, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea make alliances against us. That's real intelligent diplomacy and foreign affairs management. The kind a naive, inexperienced liberal, self absorbed, pompous fool makes in order to be liked by his foes in the hopes he may not get kicked in the face. This nobel award is just the thing he needs in order to be discovered for the idiot that he is.
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said by garywk

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So, in your estimation, the correct foreign policy course for the US to pursue should be to appease its enemies and alienate its friends?

No, that was the policy of the former administration.. We're trying to repair that damage now, apparently some people have noticed!

Congratulations Obama!

You will have to explain that one. The only cheering I see is coming from Socialists and Marxists, the natural enemies of the US.

Before the Iraq war every intelligence service in the world believed the same thing the US did. They all believed good old Saddam had WMDs. Those countries who ended up criticizing the war were those who didn't like losing the money they were making selling banned weapons and technology to Saddam. Their objections were based on their financial losses, even though they tried hard to obscure that fact.
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truth join:2009-08-29	said by TKJunkMail : "If Obama deserves the Noble Peace Prize then so does every Miss America contestant who babbles about world peace." Because Obama is in no position to actually help foster world peace right? When I read he won it this morning I thought to myself; I don't see why this would be a bad thing, but I know foxnews will tell me why later today.
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tshirt Premium,MVM join:2004-07-11 Snohomish, WA ·Comcast	Maybe next time it will be for actually making Peace, this time (according to the committee press release it was for giving hope (of peace) to the world. After Bush, anything was relief, but Obama's promises (and actions, so far) are of seeking dialog and finding a common ground with most civilized countries/people.
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said by TKJunkMail

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Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!

I saw Pat Buchanan on the McGlaughlin group. He basically said this was an anti-award directed at former President Bush.

Just goes to show how bad President Bush was. You can say the Nobel committee diminished the value and legitimacy of the award. That may be true. But, once again, it goes to show how bad President Bush was that the committee would undermine itself just to jab Bush.

I agree with "Elkabong" that Obama would demonstrate class by declining the award. It would show that he's above being part of a back-handed swipe like that. And, show that even though President Bush rode the short bus, he was still President and deserves more respect from a future President.

Mark

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Saturday, Oct 10
High: 96 °F RealFeel®: 112 °F
Partly sunny, warm and humid with the temperature breaking the record of 94 set in 1981

We're back to Gloabal Warming again. With so much ice missing the sea levels has risen as predicted and Florida is now limited to a small strip of islands rising from it's middle.

You'd think the media would cover that.

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Obama the Muslum, ruining America from inside out!!

HAW HAW, got your attention.

I just wanted everyone to enjoy the picture of my newest friends, "Buzz" and "Gordo".

Gordo has the white ear, while Buzz is the traditional "Tuxedo" with the item in his mouth. Had them since August. My best friend died in July, and I decided to get litter mates.

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Their mother was hit by a car when they were but a few weeks old, and they had to be hand weened by a foster family at Forgotten Cats in Northern DE/SE PA. They're great kittens, and I have no doubt they will be awesome cats when they reach adulthood. The few weeks the house was empty was so painful. I still mourn the loss of my friend of 15 years back in July. Post here.

»Goodby little buddy, good riddance bad week

But, these little guys might not have found a home that loves them so much if not for the passing of my friend. Wow, I can really say I loved that cat like family. He was so special. But I have young ones to look after. Looking back on things a few short months ago, I wouldn't be enjoying watching these guys grow up in front of me had my old friend not left my life.

So much to ponder. The bottom line is, these little guys are a barrel of laughs. I love them

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Congrats on your new friends...My little buddy is 14 yrs old now. I know that I will have to face the day when he will no longer be in our lives.

He is a blue tabby that we rescued as a 6 week old.

I read your sad post from July, I am sorry I missed it then and was not able to offer you some condolences, we become so very attached to these little guys, and I am sure I will need some when I lose Buster.

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Nothing is surprising any more!

I have gotten over saying comments like " I can't believe that" I now say every morning of my life what will happen today. I mean does anything surprise us any more. Right is wrong and wrong is right, that's the way most items go down now. Everyone has always had an opinion about everything but the difference now is no one budges on their opinion even if they know they could be wrong. Well why should they when it doesn't make a difference. Nothing ever gets accomplished from an individual scale to a federal government scale because no one budges on an idea or opinion, all they do is argue and everyone around them loses. I mean no one every gains anything from everyone arguing.

What the Bush's did in the White House is over, we can not live in the past so why blame everything on Bush and the past. If it would change things now then it would be a good thing but it won't it just breeds more anger.

I don't look at government in the view of democrat or republican, white man or black man. I look at it from a right or wrong point of view. What the elected officials do, should be based on morals of right and wrong. Most of us were taught from birth to adults, right and wrong by our parents but as adults we tend to forget our teachings. For the people holding office, treat your job as a business not a club and base your decisions on the morals of right and wrong.

The United States is at a crossroads on many things, the moves that are made in the next 8 years will make us or break us. I don't care who gets the Nobel Peace Prize but I do care about how many troops get killed in foreign countries, I do care if Iran gets Nuclear weapons, I do care if our government goes broke borrowing money from China, I do care about terrorist activities in America. They could have given the Nobel Peace Prize to Ned the wine-o and it would not have bothered me in the least bit but when I hear about another one of our troops getting killed I get mad.

permalink · 2009-10-11 01:09:05 · Print ·

Noah Vail
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Lorton, VA

Re: Nothing is surprising any more!

said by mdaddyrabbit

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when I hear about another one of our troops getting killed I get mad.

Fortunately for you, reporting on the War Dead is maintaining the unusually low levels that began around the election.

I was listening to an interview with Code Pink founder Medea Benjamin. She was lamenting how media coverage of their protests abruptly stopped following the elections.

For the first time, the group is having difficulty getting interviewed. It appears she no longer has the press outlet where Code Pink might express any concerns of the President's handling of the war.

This article has been making the rounds as well.
»www.washingtonexaminer.com/polit···012.html

It seems the press is disconnecting from the only detail of our soldiers service that ever really held their attention.

My personal observation
is that most people I know
that had been consistently angry
about the war since it's start,
don't express anger about it anymore.

Regardless of any of this, I hope you find peace.

NV
--
In my perfect religion, a giant hole appears and sucks up all the lousy people.
I call it the Crapture.

permalink · 2009-10-11 02:57:25 · Print ·

amigo_boy

join:2005-07-22
Tempe, AZ

Re: Nothing is surprising any more!

said by Noah Vail

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Fortunately for you, reporting on the War Dead is maintaining the unusually low levels that began around the election.

I was listening to an interview with Code Pink founder Medea Benjamin. She was lamenting how media coverage of their protests abruptly stopped following the elections.

I suspect it has more to do with the sharp decline in US casualties in Iraq (scroll to bottom to see red graph).

Casualties in Afghanistan are sharply higher. But, throughout the anti-Bush, anti-war movement it seemed like the public was opposed to the Iraq war, angry that we weren't focusing on Afghanistan. I got the impression the public wasn't angry over war casualties, but casualties due to a "mistake war." I.e., the frequently heard "how do you ask someone to be the last person to die for a mistake?"

The difference in sentiment about the two wars probably has something to do with the reduction in publicity. Anti-war groups probably don't want to admit that. They used sentiment against the Iraq war for a larger anti-war goal that I don't believe the public supported.

Mark

permalink · 2009-10-11 15:21:08 · Print ·

Noah Vail
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