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Weekend Open Thread
Empty Your Noggin
by Karl Bode Sunday 13-Jan-2013
The weekend has mercifully arrived. Deposit your most interesting thoughts into the comment section below. Or just post pictures of cute kittens and puppies. Or just rant incoherently about something nobody will find interesting in any way whatsoever. It's your call.

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Scatcatpdx
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Rolling the Dice

On Saturday I going to attempt and Windows 8 install on a Intel DP35DP with core 2 dou from an XP system.

I have a lot of hesitation about this, I will be using anew 500 GB disk and reinstalling Windows, since I heard the Update application will not allow me to make an ISO disk.

The worst is I reinstall XP, hold out of a copy of windows 7 when I do my liquidation to Ebay thing. ( I bu stuff at business liquidation sales and resell on eBay or keep it for example bought a full Office 2007 for $10.00 on the last day)

Dustyn
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Re: Rolling the Dice

Don't do it!

Scatcatpdx
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Re: Rolling the Dice

The problem is I going have to got to someday or another. I have XP. After I hard all the flack about how bad Visata was then find most most of criticism was hype when I got a vista laptop. I have trust problem with pundits and tech types. I cannot trust nobody but my own opinion.

amenite
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Re: Rolling the Dice

Do it!

Nightshade
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The flack you hear from Vista is from when it first came out before the service packs. After the updates and service packs Vista was actually pretty decent. But be aware that Vista is essentially a patch job that was successful in the end

I have a rule of thumb when it comes to the Windows OS, skip every other version since 98. So with that said go from XP to 7 (if you can), then wait til 9 comes out and skip 8. But that's not to say 8 is good. I have 8 installed on my laptop and it runs well but I use my laptop as a testbed to see how well the software works before putting it on my desktop. My desktop has 7 and I don't see me upgrading it to 8 as of yet. I play MMOs and use Ventrilo, I found out with 8 that in order for me to talk in vent I have to get out of the game to talk in ventrilo then go back in the game to play. Its a PITA.
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Re: Rolling the Dice

I got nailed while buying a laptop in the time period when MS had ceased XP sales and forced OEMs to use Vista. So I had no choice if I wanted recent hardware. In typical MS fashion they backtracked on that after Vista SP 0 turned out to be such a problem, but not until I had been stuck with it. It's evolved to be pretty stable and not bad overall, but it took 2 SPs to get there.
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Metatron2008
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Re: Rolling the Dice

No it took good drivers. The problem with vista and drivers was that vista was a complete remake of windows, and they delayed it so many times that driver companies did not believe it was coming out when microsoft said.

amenite
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Re: Rolling the Dice

I'll compromise and say good drivers *and* two SPs later...

Scatcatpdx
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Never mind, xp disk I have is only an upgrade disk I thought its was a full disk, will it looks I off to buy an OEM Win 7 disk. I no trashing my old disk

I found a work a round using Acronis to clone my old disk so far no problem upgrading to Windows 8.

Metatron2008
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Re: Rolling the Dice

There's no dice roll. Windows 8 is fast, literally loads everything quicker, plays games with more fps (Only around 5, but it's still faster), and it's.. got a start screen. Oh noes!

I don't get why people hyperventilate over a menu being turned into a screen. Just remember the go to the top left and bottom left corners, and the right corner to access the charm bar. That's it.

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Re: Rolling the Dice

People hyperventilate because Microsoft tried to fix something that wasn't broken and broke it something fierce.

Windows 95, MS kept progman and other legacy apps to cut the learning curve. XP through Win 7 kept the 'classic' theme. Windows 8 as a GUI is an absolute fail on the desktop. They should call it Window 8 given metro doesn't run multiple windows so you are compelled to go back to the very unbroken, very efficient, very familiar desktop...where of course they removed the best feature, the start button which gave fast access to everything.

I needed to change the login so I could get autologin (not having to enter a password). What a frakkin' nightmare. If I didn't happen to know that netplwiz opened that control panel pane, I'd still be looking for it. Settings are spread out across multiple configuration Windows, NOTHING in Windows 8 is intuitive. Everything in Windows 8 takes longer to do. It's also a resource pig. In VM, it is 20% larger than Windows 7...what do I get for that 20% larger footprint?

Yeah, it boots marginally faster but that benefit is absolutely decimated by the destruction of workflow. And it looks like Office 2013, which all the licensing changes to force people to the subscription model will be a fail as well albeit for a different reason.

Windows 7 and Office 2010 will continue to dominate, particularly in the enterprise until MS can force people to use the POS by making Win 7 unavailable.

BF69
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Re: Rolling the Dice

Well you can hate Windows 8 all you want but if you think Windows 9 is going to go back to the Windoww7/XP type OS you're mistaken. Windows 7 is fine keep using it if you don't want to give 8 a real chance. Just accept that one day MS will no longer support either XP or Windows 7.

Trust me when I first heard about Windows 8 I though it was dumb and when I first downloaded the demo in Feb from last year my first reaction was "WTF is this shit?" but once you get used to it, it is actually better than Windows 7 even if you don't have a touch screen or touch pad.

My biggest gripe would be since there is a learning curve a few tutorials would be nice. And I think that's where the frustration comes in. Also some aps are "metro" some aren't and thus work a bit differently. Of course this is a necessary evil right now. Windows 9 will probably be all "metro" aps

chip89

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Independence, OH

Re: Rolling the Dice

They are vary mistaken windows 9 will not go back to the desktop Microsoft has even put the metro interface on the Xbox360.

DataRiker
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said by BF69:

if you think Windows 9 is going to go back to the Windoww7/XP type OS you're mistaken.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Windows sales were down and Corporate adoption is non existent

Corporate sales are Microsofts cash cow as it is linked with its Office software, which by the way has also taken more of a nose dive even with steep discounts.

Microsoft for the first time in recent memory is looking venerable, thanks in large part to the Windows 8.

BF69
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Re: Rolling the Dice

Nothing wrong with windows 8. It's people's PERCEPTION of it that is wrong. People hate it because they read somewhere they are supposed to hate it.

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Re: Rolling the Dice

said by BF69:

People hate it because they read somewhere they are supposed to hate it.

Absolutely false.

People hate it because it doesn't have buttons where they want them, which is the whole point of a UI.

skeechan
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Re: Rolling the Dice

Exactly. Window 8 isn't merely a taste that needs to be acquired. It is a turd sandwich. And no one was told not to like turd sandwiches...they get it on their own after wasting $40-$70 on it or after seeing it in the store. Microsoft's plan is to remove all the other Windows food (namely Windows 7) from the market so that starving people will finally accept the turd sandwich. Then they will tout the adoption numbers...look people are eating turd sandwiches, that must mean they LOVE them.

Unlike Windows 7, Window 8 is extraordinarily convoluted. I liked the look of Window 8 until I actually tried to use it in my workflow. It is laughable just how bad it really is.

Seriously, full screen aps in metro (or whatever they are calling it this week to get the stink off)? Bouncing users between metro and the desktop with a jarring transition? What if you are like me and run 27-30" displays? Really, I need to use all that real estate to read email or look at the weather? IE full screen...web pages are vertically oriented (like a magazine or newspaper) while desktop panels are horizontal (widescreen)...but under the turd sandwich that is metro I get to view those pages in full-widescreen only, 1/3 of the desktop space wasted (the inefficient use of desktop space overall is a joke); that is unless I want to switch to a completely different GUI...the desktop. IE10 favorites under metro are absolutely worthless. I have over 100 favorites and instead of maintaining their neat folder organization, Microsoft just throws them into a pile. The whole thing is beyond dumb.

Just look at closing an app, something that should take as few user movements as possible as it is a very frequent user task. You have to go to the top of the screen, talk to the hand and then drag it 1440-1600 pixels to the bottom to finally close it? Really? That is better and more intuitive than simply clicking an "X". Going to the corners and edges and pausing for menus? This is an improvement over the task bar or contextual desktop menus? For Microsoft, this extra effort and discontinuity is an improvement I suppose. Well, word to Baldy's Uncle, it isn't. And memorizing a slew of shortcut keys as the workaround for a horribly designed GUI isn't a solution. This is just one of a zillion steps backward Microsoft took with Window 8 on the desktop.

If I wanted a tablet experience, I'd use a tablet. Touch screens on the desktop is a fail overall. Who is going to hold their arm up for that long? Who is going to hold their arm up and get fingerprints all over their screen when they have a mouse that is closer and easier to use? Ergonomics even recommends that monitors be barely at fingertip distance. The whole concept of consumer desktop touch is dumb squared. Microsoft under Balmer and Dumb...birds of a feather.

Someone had mentioned 360...yeah, that is because the 360 is very task specific with very limited input potential (people don't use mice and keyboards with it). Windows Phone 8 is the same thing. And Metro on the 360 is what Sony had already done from day one...side scrolling menus, except Sony's is less convoluted.

It is like 1000 people who never talked to each other designed this, they threw all the different pieces of code in a box and shook it really hard. That is an apt description of the mess that is Window 8. The idiots at Redmond don't understand that different tasks and devices need different interfaces.

Hey Microsoft...you don't put a steering wheel on a bicycle just because a car has one.

TwiztedZero
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Re: Rolling the Dice

+1 Great Post!!
Rekrul

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said by Metatron2008:

I don't get why people hyperventilate over a menu being turned into a screen.

I don't get why Microsoft feels the continual need to pull the rug out from under people. Get them used to using a computer one way, then change things around and confuse them.
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Well if you want an opinion of a non geek go with 8.

I loved XP, but it aged, and I loved 7 even more as it was such an easy install.

But updates suck all the fun out of loading an OS.

Because the drivers are eventually wrong, the hardware is eventually a hassle and a newer OS is usually a lot less pain.

The new 'look' of 8 is easy enough to avoid even for a non geek.
But the best part is the install is no different than 7, but without a couple of years of update baggage and aging drivers.

Unless of course you find the post install, update and driver hunt portion to be enjoyable.

Anyone that can't install 8 and avoid all the 8ness of the OS likely shouldn't be installing any OS on a machine to begin with.

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Re: Rolling the Dice

I loved 7 simply for the USB install - it was the first time I had done it and a long way from Windows 3.11 with a few dozen floppy disks 15 minutes from power up to logon screen, it was crazy. This was USB 2.0, dunno if USB 3 would be faster but I would hope so.
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amungus
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I'm contemplating using an upgrade I purchased, but am also considering waiting for taxes to be done first, and possibly go with some newer hardware first.
My current rig has a couple of totally random issues which I'd like to correct first.

As for the software, the metro has no place on my desktop, but I'm glad that "Classic Shell" exists, and does what it does (skips it on startup - you go straight to the regular desktop if you want, and puts in a "normal" start menu if you want).

I'm disappointed about the lack of inclusion of all the file system features that server 2012 has. The OS is otherwise Vista 3.0, by and large, tweaked not to suck.

One very interesting app for Metro, however, is Netflix, for example. Runs like total crap on some machines. Supposedly, the Metro App has no problems in these cases (google AMD Brazos netflix HD) - it's actually BETTER, due to skipping the use of Silverlight. The app seems to be one of the better examples of the use for Metro. Not quite enough to convince me of its real usefulness, but an interesting example.. where Silverlight HD Netflix is flat out unusable on some low end platforms, it works perfectly fine in app form where it can bypass the need for Silverlight.

BF69
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Also if one isn't sure about 8 just install it on another HDD or another partition. When you start your PC windows 8 will give you a choice to use it or another OS. Right now you can upgrade for $40 until Jan 31st.

IowaCowboy
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Comcast tech was not happy

I had another Comcast tech out tonight and he could see noise on the line and the supervisor blamed his meter. And I showed him screenshots of the timeouts and uncorrectables.

He was angry and not at me. The supervisor came out and a neighbor (as usual) came out and said her TV was acting up. There is something going on with the lines. Comcast just does not seem to be able to fix the problem.
Kearnstd
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Re: Comcast tech was not happy

that is pretty bad when a supervisor thinks even comcast owned testing equipment is faulty just so he does not have to issue a ticket to plant engineering.
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rradina

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Re: Comcast tech was not happy

Unless the supervisor is rewarded for lowering plant ticket counts. Perhaps he thinks it will go away if he stalls long enough and then he'll get a slightly larger monthly incentive reward (whatever that is).

I'm not excusing his actions but incentive abuse can cause companies to do things that are counterproductive.
timtom

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Who cares. I told you few times. Call dish/directv

IowaCowboy
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Re: Comcast tech was not happy

said by timtom:

Who cares. I told you few times. Call dish/directv

Except this is for high speed Internet and Comcast is the only game in town (other than VZ DSL, which is much slower). If I pay for a service, I should have a reasonable expectation that it will function properly. If Comcast cannot or does not want to fix my service, then they should give me a discount to make up the difference. Comcast Internet is good when it works but getting them to fix anything is a pain in the butt. And there is obviously a problem when the neighbor approaches the tech and his supervisor. And the supervisor had the attitude that it was a different problem and she needs to set up her own truck roll. They just don't want to fix the issue. And the commonwealth of Massachusetts has a warranty of merchantability law, which means if a merchant/service provider offers a service, then the customer in exchange for giving their money has a reasonable expectation that the product or service functions properly and as advertised.
timtom

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Re: Comcast tech was not happy

move to dsl . i do not want to see how you cry all the time here. ypu are one of two people on this forum who have issue with comcast all the time. Maybe it is user error not comcast. AS I said do not like it disconect service and move on.

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Re: Check out these amazing pics in this slideshow

Why does a seahorse care what time it is?

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Stunning!

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Rant

I'm down the basement on my primary PC, and some cat outside the window keeps wailing mating calls.

Do I look like a cat? I don't think so. Either that or he sees the picture of Nielson's "Fat Cat" hanging on my wall.

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tkdslr

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opendns... blocked dslreports.com

Why.. on earth.. I do not know..

Thusly, I shifted to another dns server.. that belongs to my hosting service..

backfeed
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Re: opendns... blocked dslreports.com

You can add a domain to allow if you need to, but I have been using Open DNS for years with no issues, I would guess it is a "glitch"???

good luck...
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Re: opendns... blocked dslreports.com

No issues here either, been (and still) using OpenDNS for years.

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said by backfeed:

You can add a domain to allow if you need to, but I have been using Open DNS for years with no issues, I would guess it is a "glitch"???

Hey there backfeed- greetings from Florida!!!!!

We took a break from the snow and ice and are spending some time down here with friends. The weather is glorious- 77 degrees and sunny right now. I've been in shorts and T-shirts since I got here.

We also plan on visiting some friends friends in Greenville, SC before we head home.

Hope you and the Mrs are well, and enjoying a January thaw where you are.
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Re: opendns... blocked dslreports.com

Hi There... soaking up the sun I see... I hope that you are doing well. We are getting over colds and stuff so we are laying low trying to avoid the full blown flu....Enjoy your time out and about...
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Am I the only one?

Who gets pissed when you're in traffic, a 2 lane road merges to one, 90% of the drivers know this so they stay on the lane that doesn't have to merge left but yet you see some "drivers" drive all the way to the end of the lane and forcefully merge themselves?

I got fed up today. saw 30 cars in front of me on the left lane and a few folks trying to forcefully merge themselves driving on the right lane so I took up both lanes putting that to a end. The traffic was at a crawl which is why I decided to do this.

Im sure if you were on the left lane, you might of been a bit happy to see this but if you were on the right lane trying to pass ALL OF US UP, you were probably a bit pissed at me.

Id like to give a shout out to the 18 wheeler that was on the right lane for completely blocking the right lane. After that people stopped trying to merge at the end.

Of course all the scenarios vary. People decided to use the back roads to pass up the traffic on the main highway which caused more traffic on the road I use to go home. On a normal day there is no line of cars.

Oh and I dont block the shoulder lane after it merges to one lane. If you want to ride the shoulder, feel free to pick up all the nails you want.
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Re: Am I the only one?

I recall several years ago we were on a trip and came upon some construction on the interstate that forced traffic down to one lane (inside lane). Some folks got in a hurry and started to pass us all on the median, however when it came time (because of equipment) to get back on the highway, all of us decided that they could wait, well the big surprise was the state trooper that was giving out tickets like candy to those on the median. He had at least 7 or 8 stopped and more coming to join.
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Re: Am I the only one?

I saw something like that in NJ once except instead of the median, people were getting on a long off-ramp then jumping back on the highway. There were 2 cops waiting for them as they crossed a double white line to get back on. They had to pull over and wait their turn to get their ticket. hahaha

Discourteous drivers are aggravating as hell when you are sitting in traffic... one of the few things I get mad about.

chip89

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Re: Am I the only one?

One time in Va the cops actually forced every one to get off and on the highway because of the work being done.

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I understand your point but the way I look at it both lanes should be used as it means less traffic backed up in the one lane possibly going as far back as to block an intersection. I believe the merge point should be where the one lane ends and we should all take turns like a zipper.

Sometimes I just stay in the lane that does not end but other times I make use of the merging lane.

I try not to 'force' my way in but sometimes it is necessary.

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Pity it was so short, I wanted a bit more

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Re: The Hobbit - A Canadian Journey

There is a longer one...
Can't find the full one at the moment...

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Thanks for the laugh... LOL
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The future of gaming, (any gaming)

Just curious here.

Ok this is not a PC gaming, nor a console gaming or hand held gaming or even gaming on doodads like tablets post.

I am just wondering, does anyone periodically wonder how long the industry as a whole can continue to expect the market to always find money for the next device?

I have a PS3, I bought one of the earlier generations. It works fine, but it is not really a game machine, I got it because it was here before just about any other option existed to play blueray and interact with the household media needs for the TV.

I have no real need for a new generation machine. PS4? I would be very unlikely to care what it might be able to do. And I go to the game store regularly as a means of having someplace to walk to, and say hello to the friend that manages it. And every day it is the same thing, nothing has changed in PS3 gaming. More of the same, it never really matters what is there (to me).

I have a Nintendo DSi XL, and I must confess, I thought the new 3DS XL might be at least worth it, but the screen is the same size, and I don't play mine to death, so it is not like it is worn out or anything. So odds are I am not in the market for the games either.
But the games, they look so much like just more of the same. And when I consider all the games they made that predate the 3DS, it is not easy to really care if you miss out on 3DS needing games.

I admit it freely, I likely should have bought a 7 inch tablet instead of a 10 I still like my 10 inch Asus, but I recently bought a Nexus 7, and it is likely the more portable and more logical purchase. I suspect I thought too much of the notion of reading 8.5x11 sized books in near full size.

The games being made for these things are short and sweet and most assuredly not all that expensive. It sure makes me poder the real value of the more expensive game portion of the market.

But even with them being very handy and the games being very affordable, I have to wonder, how often do they think they can re invent the same device and then expect to find a market to sell them to?
I paid 300 bucks for the Nexus 7 (32 gig), but I recognize I was being impulsive and also likely stupid. And I sure can't do that too often either.

I am about spent here. I don't need a new PC, I don't need more data storage, I don't need a new laptop. I don't need a new console, nor a new hand held game toy and I sure hope the wife doesn't kill me for getting the second tablet

The games played on them though have such an utter sameness to them. I wouldn't even have a tablet at all, if they didn't make the most cool writing devices (I like using Supernote cursive style). They are great for books, but in truth, I have found I like reading an actual book more, even if it weighs more and I can only have one with me. They are ok for web browsing, provided you have a wifi source and I prefer that source be a free one, as I just don't have the cash for a cell plan option.

But most of the great PC games, need a PC, and most of the great PC games have become so utterly cloned looking. My teen son seems to be more inclined to use a game as a reason to chat than to play the game half the time I see him doing anything.
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Re: The future of gaming, (any gaming)

Gaming has a rich future ahead of it.

Really though I think at the moment games are suffering the same issue as the whole entertainment industry is right now. Recycleitus, in short everything is getting recycled for a quick buck.

Though once and awhile we do get a Portal.
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Re: The future of gaming, (any gaming)

said by Kearnstd:

Gaming has a rich future ahead of it.

Yes, rich for the gaming companies as they nickel & dime players with DLC that should have been included with the game for free, and which is actually in the code, but needs to be unlocked.
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I don't resent DLC.

If you buy an outfit for money for a character in an MMO, you have more money than you ever needed.

I have bought numerous DLC campaigns for Panzer Corps put out by Slitherine, and not minded that they have found a great game, and able to actually find a way to make some cash with it (instead of the usual process of not making money from the game much at all with wargaming).

Companies need a means to combat used game sales and outright theft. DLC is at least an honest way to make money. You were not forced to buy it.

Now if we can just combine Matrix Games/Slitherine who sell their games with NO form of DRM and all you require is a serial to install utterly offline with no need to ever go online, with the usefulness of Steam that permits a nice community among users and a great way to get periodic deals and good support for indie names with the way Google Play allows people to install to any device rather handy like I think gaming would be a lot more lucrative, as piracy simply would lose a lot of it's appeal.

The only reason I have ever downloaded anything not entirely 'legit' is to ditch the DRM that screws with legal purchases and to eliminate aggro like disc in drive and online activation, and annoying elicense schemes. I have never downloaded non 'legit' due to price. I admit, it is neat getting acceptable games on Steam or Google for peanuts. But I have something like 75 wargames, averaging 50-60 bucks that I have bought in the last 12 years. I was ok paying full price as they sold them without strings attached or hoops to jump through.
I've played plenty of games for free that I would have gladly bought, if the company weren't idiots to begin with.

But the devices used, they seem to be changing the item so fast in recent years and the items are never cheap. I wonder, in 10 years time, how many times do they really think we can afford to buy yet another several hundred dollar machine. Especially when the difference in the performance and the tech seems to be getting smaller and smaller. I have lost track of how many times Sony re invented their hand held game doodad. And the experience doesn't seem to have really altered enough for me to even recall major differences.

antennaguy

@myvzw.com

Java

Does anybody know what the real threat is with running Java during the current state of affairs?

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jtl999
Classified CEO

join:2012-11-24

ThinkPad.

Got my Thinkpad Edge E535 in the mail
Joe12345678

join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL

1 week and then the NHL IS BACK!!

1 week and then the NHL IS BACK!!

Steve Mehs
Gun Control Is Using A Steady Hand
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Re: 1 week and then the NHL IS BACK!!

Yep, and I can’t wait! Will I give a damn about the outcome of the season? No, not really. I just want to see my Sabres win a few games and see how they will be next season. In my mind, I do not consider this a real NHL season, and I hope my Sabres don’t make it too far into the playoffs, because I’m in the camp of ‘being a shortened season, the Playoffs and the Stanley Cup are tainted this year’ and there is nothing anyone can do to change my mind about that.
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Miataman

join:2010-10-27
Chelmsford, MA

Re: 1 week and then the NHL IS BACK!!

Last time this happened. When they resumed playing, almost every other night, it was like a very long playoff series! The players love this, they'll get "in the zone" and do what they do...
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Linklist
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Longport, NJ
kudos:5

Famous prodigy Swartz: (RSS; Reddit; Python) kills self

Aaron Swartz was a child prodigy who helped develop RSS at age 14. And as a teenager helped found web site Reddit and developed an open source version of Python. But he was also a hacker, that like many today, believed info should be free and not be protected by copyrights and paywalls. To that end he got himself charged with felonies for breaking in to computer systems to take that info without paying. To many he is a hero. I am sure those who think online piracy is a good thing believe that. To the government he was a lawbreaker facing felony charges under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, which was passed in 1984.

Well yesterday he hung himself in his apartment at age 26. Was it the felony trial coming up that precipitated it, or was it just a result of his long standing manic depressive condition he suffered from? In any case a great talent is wasted.

»www.nytimes.com/2013/01/13/techn···all&_r=0
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz
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DaneJasper
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Santa Rosa, CA
kudos:9

Re: Famous prodigy Swartz: (RSS; Reddit; Python) kills self

What a sad, sad thing. Swartz was a bright young man.

N3OGH
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Philly burbs
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Whenever someone decides they can no longer continue on their own, and decides to take their own life, all of humanity less for it. Be it the local garbage man, or a brilliant programmer. It matters not.

There are lots of people out their suffering. Alone, in pain, feeling unwanted and abandoned.

The real failure is not theirs. The failure lies with the people who surround them who failed to recognize the signs they were suffering.

So may of them have so much more to offer, but feel as though they can't go on.

Does modern society need any more proof that we are living through a mental health epidemic of monumental proportions than the collective events of the past year?
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Rekrul

join:2007-04-21
Milford, CT
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said by Linklist:

To that end he got himself charged with felonies for breaking in to computer systems to take that info without paying. To many he is a hero. I am sure those who think online piracy is a good thing believe that. To the government he was a lawbreaker facing felony charges under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, which was passed in 1984.

The charges against him were a joke. The way it's going, the government will probably start charging people for hacking if they simply look at a monitor while in a government building.
Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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Mullica Hill, NJ
He had a good cause.

The info he thought should be free was information that was legally not under copyright. it was behind a paywall yes but it was not under copyright like a movie is.

I think the MA Prosecutor was just looking for a big case to make himself look good.
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Dominokat
Hi
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Boothbay, ME
kudos:2

Empty Your Noggin

My "noggin" doesn't need any more emptying. It is empty enough as it is. If I empty it more, I will become comatose. We don't want that.

chip89

join:2012-07-05
Independence, OH

iPod

So this week I had to reset my iPod touch 4th gen because it was not measuring battry life very well

v35_pilot
Whoops, there goes another AMU
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Fayetteville, NY
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Flu

Caved to the hype and got a flu shot on Friday, despite only getting the flu once over the last thirty years.

Now today I have light flu symptoms, including headache, low-grade fever, muscle aches, and tired. Yes, it will pass but lost the entire day to this.

This does not bode well for my future flu shot consumption desire.

N3OGH
Yo Soy Col. "Bat" Guano
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Philly burbs
kudos:1

Re: Flu

Got mine the week before Christmas after reading an article online about how this year's Flu was going to be nasty. Despite having really really good health insurance I ponied up the $30 bucks at the local pharmacy to get my shot ASAP.

So far, so good. Half the people in my office are down for the count. I'm still trucking. Crossing fingers. The shot (or the JAB as the Brits call it) isn't 100% effective but we'll see. I did all I could and have 400+ hours of sick time so if things go to shit I'll just stay home, shiver, and watch Sons of Anarchy reruns...
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Rekrul

join:2007-04-21
Milford, CT
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·AT&T U-Verse
said by v35_pilot:

Caved to the hype and got a flu shot on Friday, despite only getting the flu once over the last thirty years.

Now today I have light flu symptoms, including headache, low-grade fever, muscle aches, and tired. Yes, it will pass but lost the entire day to this.

It must be all in your mind! Haven't you heard? It's no longer possible to get sick from a flu shot!
Stumbles

join:2002-12-17
Port Saint Lucie, FL

Re: Flu

Yeah right. During my Air Force career it was mandatory to get a flu shot once a year or face disciplinary action, as in disobeying a direct order. Every year I would get the flu anyway.
Austinloop

join:2001-08-19
Austin, TX
kudos:1
Reviews:
·AT&T U-Verse

Re: Flu

Yeah, not only the flu shot, but a host of others, especially for us in SAC who were vulnerable for world wide movement at a moments notice. Also remember the squadron being herded into the base theater for the swine flu shot. Was told that a sure symptom of the swine flue was an insatiable desire for corn and want to screw in the mud.

When stationed in Turkey, definitely kept the cholera shots up to date, otherwise you couldn't leave the country.

La Luna
Survived Ashraful
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join:2001-07-12
Warwick, NY
kudos:3
Got the flu shot back in the beginning of December. No reaction at all other than a little soreness at the injection site. The first time I got the flu shot a few years ago, I experienced what you did, but not in subsequent injections.
WHT

join:2010-03-26
Rosston, TX
kudos:5

Pictures of cute kittens and puppies?

 
 
 
 
My cute pets....

IM1811

join:2001-08-20
Haverstraw, NY

Wired Weekend Edition on Super-Speed Internet

Check out Wired Weekend Edition for an interesting article on Google fiber and Karl Bode's take on the future of fixed line services.
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