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| Re: Wow... said by PhoenixDown :I'd like that 50/10 teir myself on a business class package without the limits. I agree. | |
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| Re: Wow... said by XtremepH :said by PhoenixDown :I'd like that 50/10 teir myself on a business class package without the limits. I agree. I'll +1 to that. The 50 down isn't what I'm after, its the 10Mbps up, that would be sweet with no caps. Come on Comcast, start rollin, I'm awaiting....  | |
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| Re: Wow... said by dslwanter :It's is a bunch of hord crap to offer monster speeds then expect people not to get download horny. If you're going to increase speeds you better increase that cap. Faster doesn't equal more. -- Fighting on the Internet is like winning the Special Olympics. Win or lose, your still Retarted! | |
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| Re: Wow... Take this example:
Compare yourself as eating at a Restaurant and then at a Buffet. You order a meal from a menu or chose a buffet.
Either way, you can still only eat so much.. if you're over doing it at the buffet, that says something about your habits.
Most people don't gorge.. they simply get work done quicker or get what ever it was they were doing done quicker. | |
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| Re: Wow... I hate when people use analogies for these things. There is no such as appetite in downloading. When I buy 50/10 I want to USE MORE, or else I'd stick with the slower 22/5. Most server don't even go that fast, so I'd expect no cap for that high cost top because that's the cost of business class imo. | |
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| Re: Wow... said by pspcrazy :I hate when people use analogies for these things. There is no such as appetite in downloading. When I buy 50/10 I want to USE MORE, or else I'd stick with the slower 22/5. Most server don't even go that fast, so I'd expect no cap for that high cost top because that's the cost of business class imo. Your analogy is equally as flawed. I (and most people) would purchase it to get the same amount of work done, but faster. And servers most definitely WILL go that fast, it's all about what you're doing. I can pull data from our rack to another server we have several states away at 70Mbps+, the limit of the drives in the destination server.
50Mbps isn't about using more, it's about getting your work done faster. Once people understand that, all this ruckus will die down. -- Linux Haters Unite! | |
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| Re: Wow... As the article stated, there are going to be points of congestion where you have users who think their internet connection is all you can eat, or users who simply don't know any better.
On the whole, people just want things done faster. -- Linux Haters Unite! | |
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| Re: Faster pipes = greater usage said by pandora :said by Matt :As the article stated, there are going to be points of congestion where you have users who think their internet connection is all you can eat, or users who simply don't know any better. On the whole, people just want things done faster. The point of the article is faster pipes result in more traffic. I didn't interpret it that way. But I guess you could if that's the point you're looking to make. -- Linux Haters Unite! | |
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| People use analogies because sometimes telling it straight up doesn't work - or didn't you notice the numerous threads of back and forth arguments getting no-where?
My point was perfectly fine. You can only eat what you can eat. There is only so much time in a day and so much you can do.
The idea is to give people a faster speed to get on and off faster. It's people like you that still believe they are buying data transfer rather than speed and throughput.
If you hate analogies, maybe you should chose another form of communication because analogies are a fact of speaking.
So, since YOU bring it up, please tell me, why do you WANT to use more? Are you already wide open 24/7 now? If not, you already can use more and your own attempt to slam my post, and your own point, is flawed. | |
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join:2008-05-27 Willows, CA | That's true but with a faster connection you'll be more likely to download more than before, especially thinks like HD video. | |
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1 edit | Re: Wow... said by kevinm5 :That's true but with a faster connection you'll be more likely to download more than before, especially thinks like HD video. Likely, perhaps. I went from 1.5mbps 5 years ago to 16mbps now and I still average 30GB per month.
Now, if I had 5mbps upload, my overal use would likely climb. No way in hell I would get near 250GB per month though. -- Think outside the Fox... Opera | |
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| Re: Wow... This cap may seem extreme to all of you average joe's. But look at the future and you will see that 250gb is literally nothing. New technologies are coming out that use large amounts of space. Services exist like downloading games over the internet, and online hard drives. The average joe is starting to buy terabyte hard drives. I believe comcast should base there cap limit on the hard drive market.
Most of you guys that defend comcast are the perfect stereotype of the average "american consumer". I'm really tired of having ignorant people make decisions that effect everybody else just because they want to be the average goody toe shoes. I really have no idea how someone would settle for such a low cap in the beginning. if your a smart individual and know how these companies work then you will soon be paying for your service by the gigabyte. Only then will you understand what the rest of us have been telling you for years, go ahead. Be a sucker. | |
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join:2003-10-19 Tacoma, WA | Re: Wow... Yes that was a bad comparison. Anyway, the point is that the low 250gb cap is shit. If comcast tried to screw us by charging us per gig then their going to get tossed in the long run. I hope they raise the limit with the new speeds. | |
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| Re: Wow... said by Underplay :Yes that was a bad comparison. Anyway, the point is that the low 250gb cap is shit. If comcast tried to screw us by charging us per gig then their going to get tossed in the long run. I hope they raise the limit with the new speeds. Look at it from the majority's point of view... Per GB would be great for 99% of Comcast subs. Imagine me - 30GB per month. Lower my bill to $10.00 or less? SURE!
In time, that 250GB cap will need to be raised. ATM it is far and beyond any other service that is being capped. 
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| said by LeftOfSanity :said by dslwanter :It's is a bunch of hord crap to offer monster speeds then expect people not to get download horny. If you're going to increase speeds you better increase that cap. Faster doesn't equal more. Correct! faster just means you're at your caps quicker! -- When I gez aju zavateh na nalechoo more new yonooz tonigh molinigh - Ken Lee | |
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join:2008-02-06 San Diego, CA | Re: Wow... Yeah I find it funny that people here even defend caps at all. It's sad to see that in the forward moving world, we're actually moving backwards. Sad that people support that AT ALL. | |
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| said by LiamJunket : quote: "Performance" 6Mbps/1Mbps subscribers will be upgraded to 12Mbps/2Mbps ($42.95)
Sounds good to me. Comcast keeps upgrading my speeds and I am still paying the same for internet access as I did 6 yrs ago. And its a well known fact that VIDEO subs subsidize HSI. -- When I gez aju zavateh na nalechoo more new yonooz tonigh molinigh - Ken Lee | |
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| Re: Price the same but faster & faster over the years said by dvd536 :said by LiamJunket : quote: "Performance" 6Mbps/1Mbps subscribers will be upgraded to 12Mbps/2Mbps ($42.95)
Sounds good to me. Comcast keeps upgrading my speeds and I am still paying the same for internet access as I did 6 yrs ago. And its a well known fact that VIDEO subs subsidize HSI. It is? Any proof of that? Any internal cost accounting docs you have access to? -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page Ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk? | |
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| Re: Price the same but faster & faster over the years said by LiamJunket :It is? Any proof of that? Any internal cost accounting docs you have access to? Theres a reason why theres a $17 no video penalty. $60 is about what it costs to offer the service at that level. As pro corp as you are, you already know this. -- When I gez aju zavateh na nalechoo more new yonooz tonigh molinigh - Ken Lee | |
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| I would like to see cap rules I want to see the speeds go UP and the "cap" go up as well on the higher speeds. As a tech I see it all. I had to tell a friend the other day she was being throttled from abuse. She would transfer about 400gig a month mainly uploading. She is a graphic designer and just keeps sending out HUGE files nonstop. They are going with a business class very soon due to the caps and they need a few dedicated IPS very soon too. It sucks having to tell your friend they are "abusers" .. She is just doing her job to help support her family better. | |
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| Re: Comcast Business said by memory :
What about people that are on BLAST already 16/2 ? Nada. Either back off to 12/2 and save $10.00, or drop $10.00 more and get 22/5(plus rental on the new modem). -- Think outside the Fox... Opera | |
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What about people that are on BLAST already 16/2 ? I currently have Blast tier at $32.96/month for about 10 more months. I will probably drop back to the 12/2 tier afterwards. Not bad considering I was paying $44.95/month over 4 years ago for a 3/256 connection. -- I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I am not sure you realize what you heard is not what I meant. Nixon | |
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join:1999-09-01 New Jersey 1 edit | $30 dollar pricemark There needs to be a $30 price tier, The current pricing is still above DSL pricing. Again no symmetric 10/10 offering. | |
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join:2003-02-04 North Augusta, SC | Re: $30 dollar pricemark $12/month more for 4x dl speed and 5x upload speed is certainly worth the bang for the buck. Fastest DSL here is 3/384 without any Blast. | |
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join:2003-02-04 North Augusta, SC | I just called, you can get the $42.95 price if you get telephone service through them without TV.
So you can go Sat for TV and Internet+Phone from Comcast and still get the Comcast 'bundled' prices. | |
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1 edit | Too little too late Verizon is still faster and cheaper than those figures. I can get 20/5 for 50 cents more than I'm paying right now.
I'm in the prep stage to move to Fiber and will be getting rid of comcast soon since they've already announced a price increase for my area that will literally make my 6/1 more expensive than Verizon's 20/5. | |
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Did Comcast announce an increase for your internet service? | |
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4 edits | I already have it I've had the 12mbps internet speed for well over 2 yrs. now @ $42.95, I just hope Comcast can get my T.V. picture looking better, and stop all the nighttime pix elation problems and screen FREEZE UPS, that would be nice, the premium higher channels are great to watch, but, I can't watch ANY of them like this, and this problem has been going on for the last 3 yrs. with no end in sight, I'am I really getting what I'm paying $180 a month for, HELL NO, my local office is aware of this problem, but yet they DO NOTHING ABOUT IT  -- Gateway® DX4200-UB101A AMD Phenom X3 8400 Triple-Core 2.1 GHz*2 3600 MHz system bus AMD RS780 chipset 6 GB 667 MHz D Windows Vista Ultimate(64-bit)SP1 | |
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| Cannot help feeling that I'm being screwed! Performance customers get a 100% upgrade from 6/1 to 12/2, and Blast customers get NOTHING!!! I'll be downgrading for sure once my current promo rate that I got for adding CDV runs out. If I were to downgrade now I might end up paying more.
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join:2008-03-20 | More pointless crap from comcast.. Whats the point.. Just with with FiOS is its available in your area.. Nothing like 20/5 service with no 250GB cap..  | |
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| Re: More pointless crap from comcast.. said by tgreaves :Whats the point.. Just go with with FiOS is its available in your area.. Nothing like 20/5 service with no 250GB cap.. Yeah!
Oh, wait... this is AT&T territory - just like many other areas! There will be no FiOS here. -- Think outside the Fox... Opera | |
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| Re: More pointless crap from comcast.. ... and you can ask anyone, my Comcast connection is bullet-proof.
FiOS is great(finally), but I can think of at least one other ISP I would rather have...  -- Think outside the Fox... Opera | |
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| what i dont get is why in the hell you need to have DOCSIS 3.0 in your area for this... right now comcast is upgrading a lot of areas to DOCSIS 2.0 (can't tell you how i know this), and you can get very nice upload on that alone, you dont need DOCSIS 3.0 for any of the speeds except the 50mbps one. | |
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| I'm considering changing from my ATT DSL for the upload. I do offsite backups that take forever on DSL's crappy upload.
Is the $17 premium for those with cable standard for all comcast territories?
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| Re: . said by blips :I'm considering changing from my ATT DSL for the upload. I do offsite backups that take forever on DSL's crappy upload. Is the $17 premium for those with cable standard for all comcast territories? What happens after 250GB? Do you pay more or do they just throttle your connection? Comcast initiated the 250 GB monthly data usage threshold on October 1, 2008. What will happen if a customer exceeds 250 GB of data usage in a month?
The vast majority - more than 99% - of Comcast customers will not be impacted by a 250 GB monthly bandwidth or data usage threshold. If a customer exceeds more than 250 GB and is one of the heaviest data users who consume the most data on our high-speed Internet service, he or she may receive a call from Comcast's Customer Security Assurance ("CSA") group to notify them of excessive use. At that time, Comcast will tell the customer exactly how much data per month he or she had used. When we call these customers, we try to help them identify the source of excessive use and ask them to moderate their usage, which the vast majority do voluntarily.
If a customer who has been contacted by Comcasts CSA team is contacted again for excessive use within six months of the first contact that customers service will be subject to termination for one year. We know from experience that most customers curb their usage after our first call. If a customers account is terminated, after the one year period expires the customer may resume service by subscribing to a service plan appropriate to his or her needs.
Our practice for the past several years has been to call only our heaviest data users, and this practice remains the same now that the 250GB data usage threshold is in effect. We may change our practice but will, of course, provide notice to customers of any change | |
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| Will DOCSIS 3.0 be more reliable than Comcast's current network? That's the primary reason I switched from Comcast to DSL. I got tired of the daily outages (not exaggerating either - it was going out daily) and all they would do is keep sending out home techs. Since it was not just me, not just the neighbor to my right, not just the neighbor across the street from me, but also a relative a few miles over had theirs going out at the same time (and that was a different node) those home techs couldn't do anything. I even had one tech that I gave printouts to say "Wow, this is way above my pay grade." Everyday it was the same message in the modem logs about "CMTS" configuration error followed by the modem losing sync. I took a performance hit but at least my DSL has only had 2 outages in coming up on a year of service. | |
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| Re: Reliability said by ualdayan :Will DOCSIS 3.0 be more reliable than Comcast's current network? That's the primary reason I switched from Comcast to DSL. I got tired of the daily outages (not exaggerating either - it was going out daily) and all they would do is keep sending out home techs. Since it was not just me, not just the neighbor to my right, not just the neighbor across the street from me, but also a relative a few miles over had theirs going out at the same time (and that was a different node) those home techs couldn't do anything. I even had one tech that I gave printouts to say "Wow, this is way above my pay grade." Everyday it was the same message in the modem logs about "CMTS" configuration error followed by the modem losing sync. I took a performance hit but at least my DSL has only had 2 outages in coming up on a year of service. Depends on what caused your outages. It's still the same outside plant. | |
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| Re: Reliability Too true. Comcast has be rock solid for at least 5-8 years where I live in Michigan.
If your having problems with comcast where you live, consider that they are the same pool of techs working for ATT, Verizon, et al. At least in your neck of the woods.
Also consider that Comcast bought lots of cable companies and has to upgrade them to comcasts current technology. So a docsis 3 rollout will probably mean upgrading your local comcast even more. So its a positive development for those with old legacy equipment at their cableco. -- dnoyeB "Then said I, Wisdom [is] better than strength: nevertheless the poor man's wisdom [is] despised, and his words are not heard. " Ecclesiastes 9:16
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| said by ualdayan :Will DOCSIS 3.0 be more reliable than Comcast's current network? That's the primary reason I switched from Comcast to DSL. I got tired of the daily outages (not exaggerating either - it was going out daily) and all they would do is keep sending out home techs. Since it was not just me, not just the neighbor to my right, not just the neighbor across the street from me, but also a relative a few miles over had theirs going out at the same time (and that was a different node) those home techs couldn't do anything. I even had one tech that I gave printouts to say "Wow, this is way above my pay grade." Everyday it was the same message in the modem logs about "CMTS" configuration error followed by the modem losing sync. I took a performance hit but at least my DSL has only had 2 outages in coming up on a year of service. Docsis 3 will not solve power outages, drunks, kids breaking equipment, craftmenship of the plant, theft, interference etc. I have no issues with cable where I live, however the company here is ontop of everything to a tee....outages happen, but maybe once a year if that. | |
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