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What You Need To Know About The National Broadband Plan
A good first step, possibly made worthless without lobbying reform
by Karl Bode Tuesday 16-Mar-2010 tags: dsl · legal · competition · fcc · coverage · business · bandwidth · Op/Ed · cable · telco · stats · Politics · VoIP · BBR-News · bundles · consumers · wireless
Some 36 public workshops, 9 field hearings, and 31 public notices later, the FCC today finally unveiled their national broadband plan (pdf). There's 376 pages of dense policy to dig through, so it's going to take some time to completely digest the plan. Legal experts and policy wonks will be poring over this one for weeks, given the FCC recommends some fairly dense changes to telecom mainstays like the Universal Service Fund (USF). Also keep in mind that this plan is preliminary, and will heavily mutate as it runs the lobbyist and political gauntlet. That said, here's our high and low points:

What's Promising About The Plan


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At least it's a plan -- kind of: One good thing about our national broadband plan is that it is one. Almost. It's more like a pile of recommendations to Congress, or a plan for a plan. That may not sound like much, but for a country that has spent the last decade using bad data to proudly proclaim we didn't have any broadband issues to fix? It's a forward step. The plan punts to Congress on some of the tough issues, but it at least gives recommendations and establishes a framework.

The FCC wants 4 Mbps to be broadband's baseline: For years we've reported how the FCC used fairly paltry definitions of broadband (256 kbps downstream, recently updated to 768 kbps) so that our national success on this front looked good. The FCC's plan now calls for broadband to be defined as "4 Mbps of actual download speed and 1 Mbps of actual upload speed" (page 135). Page 19 tries to argue that 95% of us already have access to those speeds, which brings us to...

The agency makes collecting more hard data a priority: On page 38 of the plan, the FCC proclaims that "the dearth of consistent, comprehensive and detailed price data makes it difficult to evaluate price competition." While the FCC tries to do so anyway -- it's clear the agency's decade-long disdain for hard science has come home to roost, and impacted the agency's plan draft. The plan calls for a complete overhaul of FCC data collection and public presentation. This is the first of many FCC proposals where the devil will be in the details and the agency needs to stand up to major carriers to achieve the goal.


The plan pushes for broadband advertising improvements: While the plan's habit of citing transparency as a fix for competitive issues is disingenuous, the plan makes it clear the FCC would like to impose requirements that improve the accuracy of broadband advertising. The FCC is eager to eliminate the use of the dreaded "up to" speed descriptor, replacing it potentially with a "broadband nutritional label" (see FCC example, left and page 46 of the plan) that could potentially advertise both the maximum and average provisioned rate.

The plan finally begins revamping the Universal Service Fund: For years even the government's own General Accounting Office has complained that the Universal Service Fund was collecting billions in taxpayer dollars but the FCC wasn't doing a very good job managing the fund. While the plan's USF reform is a complicated tangle of policy revision, the primary goal is to refocus $16 billion in USF funds over the next ten years away from legacy voice service and toward broadband. By 2020, voice-only networks (assuming there are any) won't be eligible for USF funds.

The FCC wants wireless broadband to be a priority: The plan clearly pins a lot of hope on 4G wireless broadband services as a cornerstone of future competition, and Chapter 5 (starting on page 73) is entirely dedicated to spectrum. The plan's goal is to get 500 megahertz of spectrum into the hands of 4G providers, of which 300 megahertz (between 225 MHz and 3.7 GHz) is to be made newly available for mobile use within five years. There's an ocean of details involved in the FCC's agenda, and the devil will be in the end-game details and whether broadcasters want to give up some unused spectrum (hint: they don't).

The FCC wants more competition in the set top box market: The FCC is pretty clearly annoyed with the industry's (and their own) failure with CableCARDs and starting on page 49 explains how the agency is going to push hard to end proprietary conditional access systems "on or before" December 31, 2012. In other words: they want more consumer choice in broadband-powered set tops and home gateways that can access the Internet without carrier restrictions. Again, the devil will be in the details and whether TV operators want consumers to have access to their choice of completely open set tops (hint: they don't).

What's Troubling About The Plan


USF reform could actually increase the cost of broadband and phone service: While the FCC repeatedly states their goal for the plan is to deliver "affordable" broadband to Americans by 2020, the proposals could actually raise your broadband costs. The plan imposes a new "Connections" fee as part of an overhaul of the USF that will be used for deploying broadband to under-served markets. While good for under-served markets, that means a higher bill for you. The plan annoyingly omits how much this fee could be, but once the details are hashed out, it could raise your monthly broadband bill from anywhere from $1 to $5 a month.

In addition, the FCC recommends to Congress that they allow increases in the FCC subscriber line charge, which is money that goes right back to carriers. The plan is vague when it comes to hard numbers per subscriber here as well, but industry analyst Dave Burstein tells us his his initial analysis suggests the plan could actually wind up with American families paying $5-$10 more a month when it's all said and done. Yes, maybe this money goes back to the public, but given the FCC history on this front, maybe this money goes into AT&T's pocket. Of course also tied directly to high consumer prices is the fact that...

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Again, the plan fails to tackle a lack of competition: On page 30 of the plan, the FCC proudly proclaims that the plan "contains more than 40 recommendations that directly spur competition," which makes the fact that the plan doesn't really address competition all the more obnoxious. These recommendations include such things as child safety, digital education efforts, and identity theft countermeasures. While all noble, they don't address the problem that large swath of U.S. markets suffer from high prices and slower speeds created by monopoly or duopoly markets.

The agency's own study suggested that open access policies could be one possible solution to the nation's duopoly logjam. However, the agency has made it very clear they have no intention of upsetting incumbent carriers -- many of which not only wield incredibly influence over Congress, but have also been fused into our national security infrastructure. With absolutely no hyperbole intended, many of these carriers now wield far more legislative and legal power than the FCC itself.

"The dearth of consistent, comprehensive and detailed price data makes it difficult to evaluate price competition."
-FCC's National Broadband Plan
The plan is heavy on the showmanship: Many of the recommendations look good and are politically easy to accomplish -- but lack substance. As we've already noted, the agency's goal of bringing "affordable" 100 Mbps to 100 million U.S. homes sounds good and is getting played up by the press. But when you consider that cable broadband alone already passes 125 million homes -- the majority of which will be upgraded to faster DOCSIS 3.0 service within 5 years without FCC intervention -- this supposed "cornerstone" of the plan rings hollow. Did we mention "affordable" is left undefined?

The agency also proclaims that they want to see broadband adoption improve from 65% to 90% by 2020, something that could happen organically whether the FCC is involved or not. A few million thrown at digital literacy campaigns is the supposed answer -- though several of these efforts involve using taxpayer dollars to fund cable industry advertising campaigns. There simply is a vast mountain of policy in this plan that is, for lack of a more scientific term, empty, feel-good crap, while issues like unethical billing practices go completely unaddressed.

The plan fails to disrupt the status quo: We've been covering this sector for a decade, and there is absolutely no limit to the number of think tanks, fake consumer groups, policy wonks and PR flacks employed by major carriers to help shape (and distort) public opinion, press coverage, and DC policy. Both before and after the plan's announcement these chorus of voices for hire were collectively, notably, uncritical. Why is that a problem? Any plan worth the 376 pages it's printed on should address competition, which could hurt revenues, which would anger the carriers, who would then fire up this "sound wall" of opinion for hire.

Granted, some carriers may not like the various rulemaking processes that emerge from this initial plan, but by and large the plan itself (after two full read throughs) does absolutely nothing to rattle the duopoly status quo in the broadband sector, and carrier silence proves it. That indicates a lack of conviction, courage and vision by plan architect Blair Levin. It also indicates that politics and carrier loyalty drove the national broadband plan's structure as much as science. That doesn't mean that things can't be accomplished as we head into the real rulemaking battles to come, but...

The plan completely fails to address money in politics as a primary reason for our failures: The primary problems the plan faces actually aren't technical, given we're a nation packed with oodles of fiber, bright network engineers and significant wealth. The plan's primary obstacle is the influence the nation's wealthiest carriers (AT&T, Verizon, Comcast) have on the nation's political and legal infrastructure. We've seen an endless parade of well-intentioned sector reforms scuttled by carrier lobbyists. It remains unlikely that true change in the broadband (or any other sector, for that matter) can be implemented until the problem of undue corporate influence on policy has been addressed first.

What Happens Now


As we noted at the start, the FCC's new national broadband plan is more of a "plan of a plan," and implementation in the face of lobbyist pressure will be key. As plan architect Blair Levin stated this morning at the plan's introduction, the "plan is in beta, and always will be." The FCC has simply set the table for a significant number of policy discussions and rule making procedures, that may (or may not) end in substantive improvements in the sector.

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pnh102
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Dump It

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The bill could actually increase the cost of broadband and phone service.
This alone makes this plan a non-starter. You cannot make something more affordable by raising the price.

I hope all you people out there who were clammoring for central planning with regards to broadband are happy now, and will cheerfully pay this tax every month.
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Anything but VZW

I got a bill for $275 from Verizon Wireless this month because I went over the 5 GB limit. Give me anything but Verizon!

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Re: Anything but VZW

said by Upstate NY :

I got a bill for $275 from Verizon Wireless this month because I went over the 5 GB limit. Give me anything but Verizon!
And under this plan you'll pay $276 to $285. Isn't that swell?
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Re: Anything but VZW

said by pnh102:

said by Upstate NY :

I got a bill for $275 from Verizon Wireless this month because I went over the 5 GB limit. Give me anything but Verizon!
And under this plan you'll pay $276 to $285. Isn't that swell?
get real..............
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Re: Anything but VZW

said by Duramax08:

get real..............
Is my math off?
quote:
it could raise your monthly broadband bill from anywhere from $1 to $5 a month.
quote:
the plan could actually wind up with American families paying $5-$10 more a month
So we're looking at a tax hike of $1 to $10 a month per subscription. The original poster paid $275 in one month, simple math tells us that under this plan the poster would have paid between $276 and $285 instead.
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Re: Anything but VZW

so on average it would be like $60 plus a small tax. That was a one time charge since the user went of there limit. atleast they are telling us now of a small fee. If they didnt, I bet you wouldnt notice the few cents extra on your bill if you auto bill.
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Re: Anything but VZW

said by Duramax08:

so on average it would be like $60 plus a small tax.
Heh. We have lots of small taxes and fees tacked onto our bills. What's the harm in one more?
said by Duramax08:

That was a one time charge since the user went of there limit. atleast they are telling us now of a small fee. If they didnt, I bet you wouldnt notice the few cents extra on your bill if you auto bill.
Except it is not a few cents, it is between $1 to $10.
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Re: Anything but VZW

"The plan annoyingly omits how much this fee could be, but once the details are hashed out, it could raise your monthly broadband bill from anywhere from $1 to $5 a month."

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Re: Anything but VZW

said by Duramax08:

"The plan annoyingly omits how much this fee could be, but once the details are hashed out, it could raise your monthly broadband bill from anywhere from $1 to $5 a month."

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You missed this:

quote:
the plan could actually wind up with American families paying $5-$10 more a month
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Re: Anything but VZW

said by pnh102:

said by Duramax08:

"The plan annoyingly omits how much this fee could be, but once the details are hashed out, it could raise your monthly broadband bill from anywhere from $1 to $5 a month."

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You missed this:

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the plan could actually wind up with American families paying $5-$10 more a month
except that in theory by using money from the USF, instead of paying $275 for 3G he would be paying $60 + up to $10 for another carrier. Saving him $215 a month.
Of course it doesn't work out so well for those already covered.
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$5-$10 is alot. If this fee gets put into place, Not to many people will like it. 1 cent to maybe $3 is ok but only if it expands broadband to other areas. I would also be fine if it works on existing broadband service. Like I said on another thread, Im paying for 6/1 and only getting 500/100. Dont know who is at fault since im further away from the tower but they send ads saying its available at your location. They even call me asking if I want a usb modem for $10 more. Uh, why would I need that since I only get 1-2 bars and its crappy service. ISP: Clear.
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While I think the plan sucks and "expanding the contribution base" for USF to include consumer broadband is a terrible idea, Burstein frankly doesn't understand what he is talking about on this specific issue. He's a IP telecom guy, not a POTS one, and it shows in his 3:29 am analysis here.

What is being floated, is that sometime after the year 2017, intercarrier compensation fees paid by interstate long distance carriers to local ILECs will be phased down (they are essentially a hidden cross-subsidy now for rural carriers). After 2020 the system will move to bill and keep.

What the plan suggests, that in some cases, (under a completely new cost allocation system, where all revenues (voice, video, data) and all network costs are taken into account, unlike today), local Incumbent Exchange carriers will be able, in some states, to raise the Subscriber Line Charge, which is currently $6.50, by a couple of bucks at most if they can demonstrate that this is needed to recover costs.

The plan also talks about "rate-rebalancing" in a few states where state regulators have kept the price for basic local service artificially low compared to the national average.

But what is important to note here, and what Burstein fails to understand:

1) These potential increases will only ever apply to customers of traditional phone service -- Cable VoIP and Wireless are not permitted to charge SLCs, rates are not regulated by any entity, and are not permitted to bill long-distance carriers at the inflated interstate access fee.

2) This is not even going to happen until 2017;

3) When it does happen, it is unlikely to impact anyone, because the entire subsidy formula will have changed, accounting for currently-off-the-books data and video revenues (when all costs are billed for recovery). i.e. the rural guys who are feeding at the subsidy trough will find themselves unable to raise the SLC.

I appreciate Dave Burstein's work, and he's dead on about how the NBP doesn't address affordability, but in this case, his analysis suffers from lack of complete understanding about the USF/ICC debate.
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.... I stand corrected.

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Re: Anything but VZW

said by jjeffeory:

Again. this isn't an extra fee, it's the USF rebranded.
No, the plan talks about adding another fee. Not just repurposing the USF.
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Re: Anything but VZW

Oh, I stand corrected. That sucks!
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Re: Dump It

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It's already well known that many who don't have broadband even where it is available say it's too expensive. Making broadband more expensive and seeking spectrum from broadcasters (get the additional spectrum entirely from the government, not potential wireless competitors) makes the plan a failure from the start.
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Actual Speeds

"4 Mbps of actual download speed and 1 Mbps of actual upload speed"
Actual is what people should get, not what AT&T dishes out that is less than you pay for.
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Re: Actual Speeds

said by wahoospa:

"4 Mbps of actual download speed and 1 Mbps of actual upload speed"
Actual is what people should get, not what AT&T dishes out that is less than you pay for.
... I was gonna say... and besides, this will really invalidate many DSL connections as "broadband" anymore... I wonder what Qwest is gonna do now as they have a large amount of 1.5 connections.. and also, all the RT customers..

Further, DSL doesn't do 1 meg up.. so I guess it really puts DSL into a bad spot.

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Re: Actual Speeds

said by fiberguy:

Further, DSL doesn't do 1 meg up.. so I guess it really puts DSL into a bad spot.
yea.. kinda feel sorry for qwest... NOT!

anyone wanna guess when they file for bankruptcy protection?

i have no faith that they will get this mess fixed anytime soon.
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Re: Actual Speeds

I also look at it this way... they'll just stop selling "broadband" service and start calling it something else... as it is, they already call it "High Speed Internet" as well...

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Re: Actual Speeds

tell us how you really feel

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i used to live in qwest territory. i was fortunate enough to be able to get cable internet. If I recall correctly it was 3x the speed for the same price.

I don't know how they never saw this coming.

they shouldn't offer the service in areas where they don't even try to compete.
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Just call it Internet access instead of broadband.. It's not that hard.

The more likely thing is that ISPs that aren't currently providing this 4/1 Mbps of actual throughput will more easily be able to dip into the perverted USF new tax burden AT&T and Verizon executive pension fund CAF
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Actually, Qwest is probably able to deliver 1 meg up with some tweaking. When Qwest began selling ADSL service, it originally was provisioned at 1024k up, but was changed to 896k 5-6 years ago, as poor line quality is less noticeable at 896k. If any customers still have the same, unrepaired service, 1024k is grandfathered. I'm pretty sure that most of the DSLAM equipment out there can do a 1024k up profile. Maybe some other tweaking can get the thruput close to that.

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1024 kbps DSL profile means you'll only get ~850 kbps throughput.

I'm curious as to why they went so aggressive for upload relative to download. Is it for video communications?

The person who said that this would mean big bucks for DSL providers to upgrade might on to something.

Personally I think 7 mbps and 0.5 mbps actual throughput would be a more useful and attainable goal. 4 mbps down isn't even enough for 720p video which is much more important than uploading at 1 mbps IMO.

Could it be that they are more focused more on the communications side of things and less on video delivery since they're not as keen as many are to see the internet replace the traditional crappy cable/satellite tv systems? Thinking about this makes sense as they have considerable control over the content of TV that they wouldn't have with online video...

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said by fiberguy:

... I was gonna say... and besides, this will really invalidate many DSL connections as "broadband" anymore... I wonder what Qwest is gonna do now as they have a large amount of 1.5 connections.. and also, all the RT customers..

Further, DSL doesn't do 1 meg up.. so I guess it really puts DSL into a bad spot.
ADSL 1 doesn't no but most modems should be able to cope with ADSL 2/2+ which goes up to 1.4. Possibly a line card upgrade in the CO / remote.
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Cable doesn't go 1M up either. I, personally, do not know anyone with an actual, functional 1M up. And this includes a 1M up business cable connection -- TW can and will drop packets above 500k, the best I have ever seen it do is ~900k.

DOCSIS 3.0 and VDSL (aka Uverse) will work at these speeds, but getting the operators to stop shoveling cash into their pockets long enough to upgrade their systems will require putting a gun to their head.

(The office has a T1 and DS3, and they work at full rate 100% of the time. But, they aren't $29.95 a month.)
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Re: Actual Speeds

said by cramer:

Cable doesn't go 1M up either. I, personally, do not know anyone with an actual, functional 1M up. And this includes a 1M up business cable connection -- TW can and will drop packets above 500k, the best I have ever seen it do is ~900k.
Obviously provider/network dependent, but I routinely see 2.5-3 Mbps upstream with my cable ISP.
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Cable doesn't go 1M up either. I, personally, do not know anyone with an actual, functional 1M up. And this includes a 1M up business cable connection -- TW can and will drop packets above 500k, the best I have ever seen it do is ~900k.


I call BS. My home line gets 1 up 15 down consistently. my 2 up 15 down business cable gets that consistently. My 5Mbit and 3 Mbit fiber links get a bit over that consistently. All TW provided.

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Re: Actual Speeds

He COULD be talking locally, but thanks for coming to the defense of Time Warner!

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said by cramer:

Cable doesn't go 1M up either. I, personally, do not know anyone with an actual, functional 1M up.
Three Words: "Cablevision Optimum Online"

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let me also include lame-ass Qwest!
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Re: Actual Speeds

Maybe AT&T will finally offer faster speed than 3.0 in this area. I live in a residential type neighborhood, so it's not like I live in a rural area.
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Will this include an end to halting downloads every 5 to 10M per Time Warner Roadrunner DPI?

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Making Docsis 3 services cheaper

Thanks for the write-up. Awesome.

Quick note about affordable high-speed plans from cable. Brian Santo at CED makes an interesting point in a recent article about the benefits for MSOs in seriously cutting fees for D3-enabled Internet tiers. In short, it costs a lot of money to get D3 up and running, but the cost to add subscribers is minimal. So far, interest in paying for the highest speed plans is minimal, so operators should cut fees to spur adoption and therefore a better revenue return. Makes sense to me. Cheaper D3 service = more people using it.

»www.cedmagazine.com/News-D3-made···110.aspx
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Re: Making Docsis 3 services cheaper

DOCSIS 3.0 gear is not as expensive as you think. TW's profits from a single month could buy dozens of new, list price, CMTS's from Cisco -- no discounts of any kind. a) Nobody pays Cisco retail/list prices. b) They don't need a new CMTS, just new line cards. Of course, until there's a gun to their head, they aren't going to divert any of the cash headed to their pockets to network upgrades.

(Their SEC filings have been very damning. Month-on-Month their revenues are increasing and operating costs decreasing. Yet they won't divert even 1% of those millions for network upgrades. Instead they want tiered pricing, bandwidth caps, and go to extraordinary lengths to screw with p-t-p traffic.)

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A sad reality

It's very sad that one of the world's most technical countries in the world cannot enact on a broadband infrastructure plan which can outdo Korea or Japan's....all because of 3 conglomerates (ATT Verizon Comcast)...

What have our country become? Congress has lost its function and heeds their head down to mega companies for filthy money....
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Government panacea

It always amazes me when the blogger talks about lack of competition. Monopoly/duopoly problems are caused by government regulations.

I'm not saying there shouldn't be rules of the road, but anything much beyond the enforcement of contracts is too far for the government and leads to the problem of the crony-capitalistic system we now have.

The other thing, from an economic standpoint, is that when we treat broadband as a public utility, while having some benefits, the costs are not talked about.

Those costs are higher prices through less efficient means of production (e.g., rates-of-return pricing causes the firm to hold on to older out-dated equipment longer), and less innovation (because profits are guaranteed through a regulatory board so why try to build a better mousetrap?).

Tell me what I'm missing.
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Re: Government panacea

said by LegoPower77:

It always amazes me when the blogger talks about lack of competition. Monopoly/duopoly problems are caused by government regulations.

I'm not saying there shouldn't be rules of the road, but anything much beyond the enforcement of contracts is too far for the government and leads to the problem of the crony-capitalistic system we now have.

The other thing, from an economic standpoint, is that when we treat broadband as a public utility, while having some benefits, the costs are not talked about.

Those costs are higher prices through less efficient means of production (e.g., rates-of-return pricing causes the firm to hold on to older out-dated equipment longer), and less innovation (because profits are guaranteed through a regulatory board so why try to build a better mousetrap?).

Tell me what I'm missing.
Everything you said was either a lie, totally contradictory, or completely illogical. That's what you're missing.

Bill Dollar

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Uh, you are missing everything.

1) If we didn't have things like antitrust laws, we'd only have a monopoly in telecommunications, because the economies of scale would tilt it that way.

2) Broadband isn't treated like a public utility at all in this country. No ISP is a rate of return or price cap regulated provider. Internet service is not a rate regulated service, even when offered by the few rate-of-return carriers left (rural ILECs, who are RoR on historical network costs, but only POTS rates are regulated; most telephone providers are incentive-regulate ("price-cap") on their phone services, due to the issue you hint at here).

So yeah, you really should learn a little bit about how the markets here in the U.S. actually intersect with regulation.
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Some issues:

•The FCC wants more competition in the set top box market: The FCC is pretty clearly annoyed with the industry's (and their own) failure with CableCARDs and starting on page 49 explains how the agency is going to push hard to end proprietary conditional access systems "on or before" December 31, 2012. In other words: they want more consumer choice in broadband-powered set tops that can access the Internet without carrier restrictions. Again, the devil will be in the details and whether TV operators want consumers to have access to their choice of completely open set tops (hint: they don't).

This is already possible.. has been ever since cable card became a hard mandate back July.. What the FCC or Congress should ALSO have enforced, more so than the cable company changes, they should have REQUIRED STB manufactures to sell them to the consumer as well.. Really, this would have been a no-brainer. While I don't think the consumer really is going to want to buy their own equipment for some time to come (price, quality, reliability,.. combined with paying service mirroring fees on top of the purchase, etc) this still could have been EASILY done...

Even tho Tivo and some televisions already allow for Cablecard, I assume this is directed towards OnDemand services..

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Dagda1175

join:2001-06-17
Goleta, CA

Of course it will be more expensive.

"Government always finds a need for whatever money it gets."

"Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them."

"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

roc5955
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Re: Of course it will be more expensive.

said by Dagda1175:

"Government always finds a need for whatever money it gets."

"Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them."

"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
Quoting Ronald Regan I see. Perhaps you can tell me, why do people keep electing people who say that the government can do no good, then, when elected, proceed to prove it?

The government that you get, is only as good as the government that you elect. If you keep electing people who say that government is the problem, and then proceed to prove that government is the problem when they are elected, you will have the same problems.

We need election reform, to take the elections out of the hands of big corporations, and back to WE THE PEOPLE.
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ironwolf

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Re: Of course it will be more expensive.

No, just no.

Back into the hands of "we the people" and out of corporations. So who would run these new "agencies" and how would they be better than companies who have to do it to make a profit?

Would you pay for the new service to the existing companies or just steal it? Err, nationalize it.

You please propose exactly how such a new plan will work. Who pays for it? How much does it cost? What is included? Who sets the standards?

We the people is pretty vague.
tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
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Starting out with bad suggestions.. can it get any worse?

Well, I have a revision for the USF/subscriber line reform...
First of all, if you have a broadband line and buy VOIP .. I don't think the FCC should be able to hit you with MULTIPLE fees and/or taxes.. it needs to be ONE fee and be under $5 a month for ALL (the less, the better).. and that's whether you have a combination of wireline/wireless services from the SAME carrier. This is my suggestion AFTER they tackle the issue of competition FIRST.

There is no doubt that 4/1 can be put into those "RED DOTS" relatively quick, but if the price is $50-$100 it's not affordable.. if it's $15-$25 it's reasonable WITH a VOIP line included. Don't care if it's wireline or wireless in the last mile.

I haven't read this in it's entirety.. but when we're talking about reform, the States seem to have their greedy little hands into the wireless/POTS pie with their tax & fee schemes as well.. once the infrastructure EVOLVES so to speak, how do you prevent the States from making that $15-$25 cost balloon into $50-$100 for 4/1 and a voip line? Keep in mind that I'm talking 2010 dollars and by 2020 the inflation could well make 15-25 be 50-100 by that time so we'd see $90-$125 in real inflationary dollars, while the rest are UPTO $200+ for internet, phone and video...

A POTS subscriber charge is anywhere between $5-$10 now and that's outrageously high. I'm very suspicious that once the fcc gets the authorization to RAISE your internet bills the states will want their share too and they will screw over VOIP as well and god help those STILL on POTS by 2020, you'll need a mortgage to pay the bill. Thinking of projected price hikes make me sick.. I'm still bracing for the ultra-high GASOLINE prices we're facing this summer!!

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A step in the right direction

The first broadband plan wasn't going to be perfect. Far from it. This one has a lot of work to do. However, there are some good points to share. At least we have a plan in place and will work towards getting there. The infrastructure will be built and people who don't have these options now will have options later. I think that the general people here on DSLReports will not see this as a entire solution, but a step towards the goal.
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TIGERON

join:2008-03-11
Pacifica, CA

A first step in the right direction

But there's still NO REAL competition in many parts of the country.

allalyssa

@cox.net

Hit the Nail...

I agree. They definitely layed up instead of going for the green. I would have liked to see them take a much bolder and stronger stance.

To me, they've already accomplished much of what they are asking for...so I guess it's another "mission accomplished."

BF69
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Camden, TN

what's not promising

•The FCC wants wireless broadband to be a priority: The plan clearly pins a lot of hope on 4G wireless broadband services as a cornerstone of future competition, and Chapter 5 (starting on page 73) is entirely dedicated to spectrum. The plan's goal is to get 500 megahertz of spectrum into the hands of 4G providers, of which 300 megahertz (between 225 MHz and 3.7 GHz) is to be made newly available for mobile use within five years. There's an ocean of details involved in the FCC's agenda, and the devil will be in the end-game details and whether broadcasters want to give up some unused spectrum (hint: they don't).


Yes take away FREE TV so the mobile companies can offer mobile "broadband" with their 5 GB monthly caps and $50 per GB overage fees for $60 a month. If they want spectrum then MININMUM 50 GB cap and ZERO overage fees. If someone goes over do like satellite, just throttle down the download speed.
jimbo2150

join:2004-05-10
Youngstown, OH

Dearth?

quote:
"The dearth of consistent, comprehensive and detailed price data makes it difficult to evaluate price competition."
At first I thought that 'dearth' meant wide or encompassing a lot of data, but...

Acording to Princton WordNet, dearth is defined as:
said by Princton WordNet :
an acute insufficiency
I don't see why price is lacking in any sense. Prices are available everywhere. Most ISP sites just enter a ZIP and boom! or Call and tell a zip. So why is price an issue? Just get the data and break it down into a unit like price/bit (price per bit).
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Re: Dearth?

One, using prequal tools zip code by zip code is technically cumbersome and impractical, so the government has turned to getting this data directly from carriers -- but this data has not been independently verified, and what data exists carriers won't let the FCC share with the public or independent auditors.

Two, the advertised price is never the actual price, and hitting site prequal tools doesn't tell you what people are paying by zip after you've factored in below the line fees, charges, or bundle discounts (or penalties, depending how you look at it).
jimbo2150

join:2004-05-10
Youngstown, OH

Re: Dearth?

Then certainly the first thing this "plan" should have tackled was to make sure ISPs release independently verified data at least annually. That would have gone a lot further than adding another speed test to the thousands out there today. Data warehouses are not new, so why can't our government make sure that data is available about our connections?
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Re: Dearth?

I agree completely. The problem is that the carriers control policy, and have worked very hard to fight any public release of raw data on speed and penetration in court.

influx

@sonitrolmichigan.com

terrible

It makes me sick to think about the present state of broadband in the U.S., the lack of competition, and monopolies supplying the content and the medium in which it is delivered. These large companies should not be allowed to exclusively control access to the lines in which the data is transferred. Imagine if that were the case with the roadway system today, i.e. where the car manufacturer also builds the roads on which you drive. You would buy a car and then also be charged to drive it on the road. Well, this does happen today, except you are charged in the form of taxes instead of a monthly bill, however the most important aspect of this is the fact that the government controls the roads, not a capitalistic corporation. There are some fundamental things (such as roads, water, mail, etc.) that should not be controlled by large, profit driven corporations and I believe that broadband has reached that level of necessity. Now, believe me, I am not one for more government, but on the other side history has shown that it can be done and with satisfactory results. The other option is what we have today: large corporations that have no competition, squeezing every last cent out of their customers. The customers have no where else to go and no other option and cancelling service is not an option because broadband is a necessity these days.
trish2

join:2008-03-24
Laurens, SC

Re: terrible

agreed wholeheartedly!!

Tron4Net

join:2010-01-14
Corrales, NM

WTF

Government is simply failing the American people, plain and simple. Why should these bozos get paid when many other Americans are losing their jobs? One way or another something needs to happen for the better!
caco
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Whittier, AK

We had some very low expectations and they still

managed to shock us with the BS in this report.

When a report states the basically 95% of the country has access to 4 Mbps downloads, you know it basically was a waste of tax payer money.

"Some 36 public workshops, 9 field hearings, and 31 public notices later, the FCC today finally unveiled their national broadband plan (pdf)."

After all that we get a plan for a plan with absolutely no teeth. The sad part is probably the FCC folks are probably gving each other high fives for job well done.
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End result: Higher prices, more profit for incumbents

Most likely result:

Higher prices, more fees. Profit for large entrenched players increases while pushing off costs into the USF.

... no real speed or consumer protections increases.
USA far behind on broadband.

Rural areas may actually get some form of broadband. That's the only positive... but the rest of us will pay dearly for it.

No open access.
Very little competition in most areas. (In some areas, none.) Which therefore means very few choices except one for rural areas and two for most people in the USA. A small minority gets to see 3 or more choices. (Very small.)

Internet regulations will grow stronger and more controlling (content/intelligence/Sales taxes etc)

Damn.
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Re: End result: Higher prices, more profit for incumbents

said by KrK:

Most likely result:

Higher prices, more fees. Profit for large entrenched players increases while pushing off costs into the USF.

... no real speed or consumer protections increases.
USA far behind on broadband.

Rural areas may actually get some form of broadband. That's the only positive... but the rest of us will pay dearly for it.

No open access.
Very little competition in most areas. (In some areas, none.) Which therefore means very few choices except one for rural areas and two for most people in the USA. A small minority gets to see 3 or more choices. (Very small.)

Internet regulations will grow stronger and more controlling (content/intelligence/Sales taxes etc)

Damn.
It's not just america that is being behind,it's canada as well.It's like when the US telco's and Cableco's play the dirty cards,our canadian telco's and cableco's do the same thing.It's like monkey see,monkey do. When will it stop and the CRTC & the FCC say NO! to the Cableco & the Telco's.Things have GOT to change,the cableco and telco's can't keep their duopolies forever THEY end up to have to give it up cause ONE day or another,they'll have to give up their duopoly.

KrK
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That coverage map--- They counting Wirelesss too?

I see that they show Osage county--- a huge, rural county here in NE Oklahoma as having 96-100% availability of broadband.

I know personally that's BS. I also know people in said county that are getting xDSL at speed of 300k/down 300k up. Beats dialup by a wide margin but is hardly "broadband".

In fact as I look around the Tulsa area and think of personal experiences with people and co-workers It appears I must know exceptionally unlucky people who all are part of the "other" 4%.

I call horsepucky on this map. It's flat out wrong.
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digitalfreak
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Blacklick, OH

Re: That coverage map--- They counting Wirelesss too?

I wonder if it's still based on the "if one person in a zipcode has broadband, then everyone has access to broadband" crap?

KrK
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Re: That coverage map--- They counting Wirelesss too?

I have no idea how they determine it.... but it's no where near accurate. Some of these counties are very large. I know Windstream has deployed DSL into rural areas in many of them, with extreme line lengths and very slow DSL (due to distance) there's still most of the county without DSL. It's a cost of choosing to live in the boonies..... Yet then this map shows the whole county as dark blue and the key says "96-100% of homes have access to broadband. Ha, RIGHT. No way! They better not be counting satellite or something into the map. There's counties here that have spotty cell coverage and it's still listed as 96% penetration for broadband. It's not adding up.

I'd like to see someone explain where they get this from.
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Youtube Video of the FCC Commission mtg on Broadband

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6p6Q6AvvsQ
McRat

join:2009-09-09
Corona, CA

It is a problem, it's not fixing itself, and it's national.

I have a small business in a 25 year old industrial park in a heavily populated region of the US (Corona, Southern California).

When I started up 17 years ago, less than 1% of business communication in our industry was digital, but I set-up a BBS service over a telephone modem to service customers who were ahead of the curve. Probably about 1 megabyte a year total communication, and 56k speed. Today, 95% of our business data is digital, and it's now several megabytes a day, sometimes 100 meg or more. I'd say about 500 times more digital data today.

While data needs have skyrocketed, small business bandwidth has not. We have been stuck with slow/unstable DSL service for about 10 years. A good day will have us see 384k average speed. IF IT WORKS AT ALL. There is no hope for improvement because the phone company has a captive audience. However, our house is a couple miles away and gets over 3mbps for less money. To move large files, I drive home with a memory dongle...

Yes, there are options, but not very good ones. T1 was $1100/m (today it's $400-700) and it made our phone lines freak out, so we removed it. We now have Hughes Satellite as a backup system, but it's still not that fast, especially upload, which is most of what we do. At least it doesn't crash as much.

Perhaps it will "fix itself", but I can't rely on that forever. Right now, my cellphone is faster than my hardline DSL, so the technology to service this area is certainly there.

Today Broadband is a business utility every bit as critical as phones, electricity, water, or shipping. It's time to move into the 21st century.

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