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kudos:4 |  VOD over broadband to supplement sat TV
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 EdrickI aspire to tell the story of a lifetimePremium
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Woburn, MA | One Way Communication It's like TV from the 80s where you would have to call in to watch premium channels. I don't see mobile TV being that big without interactive services or some type of on-demand which can't be done with one way communication.
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 |  KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
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| Re: One Way Communication said by Edrick:It's like TV from the 80s where you would have to call in to watch premium channels. I don't see mobile TV being that big without interactive services or some type of on-demand which can't be done with one way communication. The communication is done via your settop box, which either can phone in modem style, or it can use your broadband connection to report back to homebase, and then the requested program can be broadcast to you.
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 digiblurGot Sipura?Premium
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Louisiana | Echostar / DishNetwork Echostar bought the spectrum not DishNetwork. | |
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Hingham, MA | Re: Echostar / DishNetwork That's true, I believe the two companies separated- Echostar owning the satellites and other businesses, and DISH using the satellites to provide TV? | |
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Brewster, WA | Re: Echostar / DishNetwork Echostar is the hardware, Dish is the media provider. | |
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| KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
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Tulsa, OK | They are the same company, just two divisions. | |
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| | digiblurGot Sipura?Premium
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Louisiana | Re: Echostar / DishNetwork said by KrK:They are the same company, just two divisions. Negative. Two separate stock symbols = two companies. DishNetwork even leases satellite space from Echostar.
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| | | KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
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Tulsa, OK | Re: Echostar / DishNetwork Huh, I didn't know they spun it off completely. | |
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join:2000-05-11 | So let me get this straight... The FCC reallocates the UHF TV band, moves television stations to below 700 MHz, and then Echostar bids on a part of it for...
...television.
What is wrong with this picture?
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Hingham, MA | Re: So let me get this straight... Well, it was the FCC, not Echostar, that created a block useful only for one-way services... | |
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1 edit | Re: So let me get this straight... They are useful for more than just one-way depending on what you want to do. Don't blindly believe what pundits pund. I would imagine that someone could figure out something more useful to do with 6 MHz at 722 MHz than making it back into TV channel 56.
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Hingham, MA | Re: So let me get this straight... Hm, I don't know much about wireless broadcasting, I just made the assumption based on the fact that block E only held one block of spectrum, while all others included two... though I suppose Video on Demand would require at least some of that to be set aside for upstream, so they can tell what video it is you are demanding... | |
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Banks, OR | Yea, "analysts" are mostly clueless; paid to say something about some company every once in awhile in order to churn the companies' stock, and generate commissions ofr their employers/clients.
Maybe Dish wants it for a return channel. They have plenty of downstream bandwidth. They could do one-way satellite broadband. Latency would be much improved compared with Wildblue and Direcway. | |
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| macaholicPremium
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1 edit | perhaps an effort to promote an infant technology that has promise with some chance for refinement..
edit: and hopefully not crappy small tube tv..... bleeeh.
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West Chester, PA
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| Echostar to Rival Qualcomm's Media Flo??? They might use one-way spectrum to create a rival for Qualcomm's Media Flo delivery platform.
If you look at the current Media Flo design and market strategy:
»www.qualcomm.com/mediaflo/index.shtml
Here is where it gets interesting.
Verizon's VCAST Mobile TV service is delivered via Media Flo's One-Way broadcast system, not by their local cell sites.
A small request via the normal EVDO channel brings a large reply via the Media Flo network.
Other carriers wishing to provide the same wireless Video service at this point only have the Media Flo system as an option.
Echostar is in a perfect position to give Qualcomm a run for it's money by offering a similar service via their own Video Broadcast platform.
Conveniently enough as well, the Media Flo transmitter sites are all fed via satellite, something Echostar already has some orbital Real Estate waiting to be used for.
If there is significant demand for these types of services, Qualcomm might just find itself with a little bit of competition.
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| | They could provide HSI with that bandwidth. Downstream data is provided from satellites, and upstream data is sent through the bandwidth they just bought. | |
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|  cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM
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| Re: They said by anonomous :
could provide HSI with that bandwidth. Downstream data is provided from satellites, and upstream data is sent through the bandwidth they just bought.
And that wouldn't be all that different then Spacenet...which I think is universally hated by anyone who has to use it unless no other HSI is available. Lag sucks. | |
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | Huh??? "The spectrum in question came from the "E" block, and is primarily useful for one-way transmissions, meaning obviously that broadband is out."
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no biggie there. those with hughes 'broadband' could argue what they get isn't broadband either.
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| | | Re: Huh??? That's true, its no where near what the FCC used to call broadband (200kbps) nor what they define it now (768kbps). I bet I would burn through the FAP in about 2 hours. But with them using it for TV doesn't make much sense when not that many Americans are interested in mobile TV. I know I'm not. I can wait till I get home to watch TV. | |
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Arlington, TX
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·AT&T U-Verse
1 edit | More than interactivity... There are a variety of ways to handle "interactivity." That portion of the spectrum will allow them to serve products. Requesting the service could be done through a cell or land-line by merely calling in to an authorization network. They can even take advantage of multi-casting within that frequency. They haven't spent nearly a billion dollars without giving it a good deal of thought. They will probably be able to build that into a nationwide license.
Heck, their growth is good, their cash flow is good, their value is good, and considering what they've been spending to improve their product their profitability is not bad. Plus, the stock hasn't been this low since 2003. Not that it means a stinkin' thang, but I'm buying.
Anyway, there is a good bit more to this than "interactivity." | |
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| Does it matter what they do with it Does it matter what they do with it? Dishnetwork or Echostar if you will is dying. Their service sucks, their equipment is way over engineered for average consumers and their customer service is horrible. And that includes service from installers to tech supprt to billing people.
Every work order I ever had from them had some sort of mistake that required at least ten phone calls from the field to fix. Their service call proceedures defy logic and they have way to many types of dishes and switches and LNB's.... I swore two years ago that I would NEVER touch a piece of Dishnetwork equipment for the rest of my life.
Now they have a virtually dead and almost useless new satellite that costs millions and millions.....
I will be the first to dance at their funeral. | |
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| | | Re: Does it matter what they do with it I believe local channels will be send through the specturm with interactive features to make more room for hd channles since there sat failed. | |
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Rockford, IL | Where did that come from? I mean besides being totally off the wall wrong. | |
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join:2000-05-11 | I like the broken satellite rant. Shows the void of actual knowledge in that post.
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| digiblurGot Sipura?Premium
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Louisiana | What broken and useless new satellite? Echostar hasn't launched a satellite in a couple of years. Last one they launched was Echostar10 and it is working great providing local channels to everyone across the US.
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| Let's see, attguy at comcast.net - hmmm...
I can understand why you hate Dish Network.
However, they are far from dead and your FUD is laughable.
Way over-engineered equipment? LOL, I've seen 4 year olds operating their DVRs. The real problem is the incredible stupidity level of your average American. Just look at all the flashing 12:00's on all their digital clock equipped appliances and vcrs.
Sucky customer service? Whose isn't?
Comcast AND ATT are two of the worst on the planet and I have had personal and commercial experience with both of those companies. When I was done with ATT, they refunded me more than $35,000.00 they stole from me.
The satellite belongs to SES Americom who was going to rent transponders to Dish. The next Echostar satellite is Echostar 11 and that should go up in May. The SES Americom sat called AMC-14 may still be able to be moved into proper orbit but at a cost of some years of service. No biggie either way.
A dying service? Not hardly. 14 million customers and growing with new services and features added yearly.
With their purchase of SlingMedia and now this spectrum, I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with it. | |
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| If not broadband, do you think that they might use it for true On-demand? Currently, if a customer has a DVR, it records select shows automatically when the DVR is not in use and there is extra space on the HDD. With the part of the spectrum they bought, once again, they could use it to send data to the home office and then send info through satellites to the customers set top box. | |
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