  PenguinsHave You Played Atari Today?
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Cleveland, OH | Only one port... When are these protocol designers going to learn that all you need just ONE PORT.
You can make a (nearly) unlimited number of connections to the same port, there is NO NEED to use more than one port.
If you have to differentiate between various things just send a few bytes upon connecting to indicate the service you need. | |
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Santa Cruz, CA | Re: Only one port... you *don't* need to open all the ports for H.323, your NAT software just needs to monitor the control session, and dynamically setup and tear down UDP ports on demand. This is done in several products such as SonicWall SOHO routers. Its not more commonly done because the h.323 control session is rather complex.
to accept *INCOMING* H323 connections, you do need to port forward the control session as this is a peer to peer protocol. This is where life gets kind of complex for *ANY* NAT system, if you have several users onsite behind the NAT, how does the server decide where to forward inbound connections ? | |
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| | Here's another reason... When are US broadband providers going to realize that 128k upload is not enough? ISPs in other countries (and OOL) provide connections with more upload bandwidth for almost the same price! | |
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| | | | Re: Here's another reason... Actually Sweden provides 10mbit up and down for 19 bucks a month. And Swedish Universities are upgrading to 10 gigspersec in November. GO figure. | |
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Delray Beach, FL | Re: Here's another reason... said by shawnbttu:
Actually Sweden provides 10mbit up and down for 19 bucks a month. And Swedish Universities are upgrading to 10 gigspersec in November. GO figure.
Be careful. You might get labeled a communist by some of the posters here.
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| | | | | said by shawnbttu:
Actually Sweden provides 10mbit up and down for 19 bucks a month. And Swedish Universities are upgrading to 10 gigspersec in November. GO figure.
No kidding? When are we going to see something like that? Is that 10 mbit service one of those things that you have to be within like 150 ft. of the CO?
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Delray Beach, FL | Re: Here's another reason... said by gomer1701ems:
said by shawnbttu:
Actually Sweden provides 10mbit up and down for 19 bucks a month. And Swedish Universities are upgrading to 10 gigspersec in November. GO figure.
No kidding? When are we going to see something like that? Is that 10 mbit service one of those things that you have to be within like 150 ft. of the CO?
No. You just have to live in a place like Sveden vhere taxes are used to support the public infrastructure. The taxes are a little higher, so it's probably not a big deal for somebody living in Minesooota, yah? The only thing I get are sub-standard schools and bad drinking water.
(Suddenly, I'm hungry for some lefsa.) 
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DamnFlat, OH | Re: Here's another reason... forget the lefsa go for the lutefisk!! MMMMMMM...hot fish jelly! | |
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The taxes are a little higher, so it's probably not a big deal for somebody living in Minesooota, yah?
Yah sure, you betcha!
P.S. The casserole is in da oven!
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Saint Paul, MN | Re: Here's another reason... Imposter!!
If you really were from MN as you claim, you'd know that it's called a "hot dish", not a casserole don'cha know?
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Here's another reason... said by marcw:
Imposter!!
If you really were from MN as you claim, you'd know that it's called a "hot dish", not a casserole don'cha know?
Ah, point well taken. To be honest, I had forgotten which word was indiginious to Minnesota.
I should point out that when I use either word with people not from Minnesota, they don't know the meaning to either one.
And yes, I really am from Minnesota.
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I see statements that European broadband is far ahead of the US all the time. I'm sure that to some extent, this is true. But I have friends in Germany that have the same horror stories of poor speed and lack of availability that we in the US have. I've found that a lot of the European 100Mb/100Mb $30/month setups are for specialized neighborhoods and aren't available nationwide.
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| | |  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
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kudos:4 | said by shawnbttu:
Actually Sweden provides 10mbit up and down for 19 bucks a month. And Swedish Universities are upgrading to 10 gigspersec in November. GO figure.
Great if you want to chat with a neighbor, but over the net speeds are pretty pathetic out of their network. | |
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Great if you want to chat with a neighbor, but over the net speeds are pretty pathetic out of their network.
Good point, but take it one step further: Think about how awesome it would be if someone on that kind of network would set up some sort of DivX/MP3 server. You'd get what you need lightning fast!
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00000 | Re: Here's another reason... said by djrobx:
As for videoconferencing, horrid firewall unfriendly protocol aside; how many people actually want to videoconference? I'd rather not have to dress up to answer the phone. Voice is sufficient for most things, but that's just me.
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videoconferencing is how i get to see my family and friends that are 500 and 800 miles away)other than the few times a year when i visit). voice alone just doesn't cut it. | |
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videoconferencing is how i get to see my family and friends that are 500 and 800 miles away)other than the few times a year when i visit). voice alone just doesn't cut it.
I agree. Videoconferencing among a group of distributed family members could've been the killer app that residential broadband was waiting for. Well, that and video on demand. Both have been spectacular and embarrassing failures.
The only remaining app for residential broadband is porn, making this fiasco even more embarrassing. | |
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Atlanta, GA | I wanted to videoconference when I tried to get DSL in 1999. There wasn't enough upstream on @homo to do anything near 'picture perfect' (or more than a few low-res fps for that matter) when I got my cable.
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The bandwidth is not so much an issue--improved compression methods and faster processors can give a fairly good adaptive rendering quality (see eyeball.com, for example). Security is. | |
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|  BrianDamageWe Are The Hounds From HellPremium
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Rowlett, TX | Re: I would use 2 way video It would be much more useful and popular if there was not so much resistance to it behind the scenes.
As long as the big players get to make all of the decisions about what standards become standards, then monolithic, dinosaurish protocols like this one will dominate things.
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| | | more than security said by claudeo:
The bandwidth is not so much an issue--improved compression methods and faster processors can give a fairly good adaptive rendering quality (see eyeball.com, for example). Security is.
It's more than security. I tried videoconferencing a while back before we were all using firewalls and we STILL couldn't get the software to work together. We tried everything that was out there. (And the problem with Netmeeting specifically was that it wouldn't run on a Mac AT ALL!) | |
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| | BrianDamageWe Are The Hounds From HellPremium
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Rowlett, TX | Re: more than security That would probably be because Netmeeting is a Microsoft product.
You know Gates. | |
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| | FAST UPLOADS What's Holding Back 2 Way Video?
The scarcity and expense of IP connectivity with FAST UPLOAD speeds. Providers need to get off their arse and start laying FTTH or DSDN if they want this to happen and get the US out of the "dark ages". Providers need to get their hand out of the sand with the thought that people don't need fast upload speeds, just fast download ones. | |
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|  mags2Agent Provocateur
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SoCal |  Re: FAST UPLOADS
said by bodysurf:
Providers need to get their hand out of the sand...
Dontcha mean head outta the sand?
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Cleveland, OH | Re: FAST UPLOADS said by mags2:
said by bodysurf:
Providers need to get their hand out of the sand...
Dontcha mean head outta the sand?
I think their heads are uh... elsewhere. | |
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