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When Anti-Spammers Spam
'Spam Arrest ' sending e-mail sales pitch
(old news - 02:57PM Thursday Feb 13 2003)
tags: business · spam
As an anti-spam company, you'd expect the founders to be relatively sensitive to spam, yes? Apparently that's not the case for one anti-spam company known as "Spam Arrest", who has been busy spamming potential customers, mining addresses and sending a sales pitch to anyone who had recently sent an e-mail to one of their customers. Using your anti-spam product to harvest your customers' acquaintances e-mail addresses has naturally got the folks over at Politechbot riled, with others there confirming the practice. One would think the marketing department at Spam Arrest would have thought twice before resorting to e-mail marketing?

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TheWickerMan

join:2002-04-09
Enola, PA

Anti-spammers do not spam!

It's obviously that these are just spammers under the guise of anti-spammers. I certainly wouldn't trust any product a spammer is pushing, especially not one that supposedly stops spam.
Foxbat121

join:2001-04-25
Herndon, VA

Re: Anti-spammers do not spam!

My company installed some spam-filter a few months back. Ever since that, I noticed a huge jump in amount of spam mails I received every day. The company finally figured it out and took it offline but the damage is already done. Unlike my personally email accounts, it's almost not possible to change work email address.

amenite
The Soylent - It's People
Premium
join:2002-11-21
Ridgewood, NJ
clubs:

Reminiscent of other sleaze...

quote:
You are receiving this email in response to an email you recently sent to a Spam Arrest customer.
Reminds me of those credit card offers they started doing a few years back, the ones where the introductory rate would be jacked up if you had a late payment to the card issuer, or ANY OF YOUR OTHER creditors. Instead of near-usury by association, in this case it's spam by association.

TheDreamer

join:2002-01-17
Manhattan, KS
·AT&T Southwest

Re: Reminiscent of other sleaze...

Well, a few months back...I got spam advertising antivirus software....

What make it stand out was that the spam carried a virus attachment.

The Dreamer
--
You may be a dreamer, but I'm The Dreamer, the definite article you might say!
spiff1389

join:2003-02-13
Niagara Falls, NY

Unreal

Unfortunately hypocrisy has no boundaries

Aramis604
I Represent Nobody But Myself.

join:2000-12-15
Poway, CA
clubs:

Re: Unreal

That sounds darn close to a movie quote.. heh

graysonf
Premium,MVM
join:1999-07-16
Fort Lauderdale, FL

SPAM? What's that?

Run your own mail and run TMDA....end of problem, end of story.

Brendan
Warr Guitar is here

join:2000-07-14
Littleton, CO

Re: SPAM? What's that?

said by graysonf See Profile:
Run your own mail and run TMDA....end of problem, end of story.
Or use Mac OS X's Mail program. I haven't had a piece of junk mail in six months.
--
October 12, 1988: Computing Advances To The NeXT Level
*The artist formerly known as PIC* (site is down; waiting for PPC mobo to arrive)
spiff1389

join:2003-02-13
Niagara Falls, NY

Unreal

A movie quote like " My hipocrisy goes only so far?"
beannet

join:2001-03-31
Chicago, IL

this is nothing new

its like paul vixie and real time blackhole list (rbl) blocking spammers via their router-based ip blacklist. the whole time, mr. vixie was working on their own spam company, whitehat. read all about it:

»www.dotcomeon.com/

newview
Ex .. Ex .. Exactly
Premium
join:2001-10-01
Parsonsburg, MD
·Vonage

this is nothing new

said by beannet See Profile:
its like paul vixie and real time blackhole list (rbl) blocking spammers via their router-based ip blacklist. the whole time, mr. vixie was working on their own spam company, whitehat. read all about it:

»www.dotcomeon.com/
You're kidding . . . right?

02/13/03 21:23:32 whois dotcomeon.com@whois.geektools.com
whois -h whois.geektools.com dotcomeon.com ...
Registrant:

NetSide Corporation (DOTCOMEON-DOM)
P.O. Box 403895
Miami Beach
FL,33140
US
Domain Name: DOTCOMEON.COM

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Halmu, Mircea L. (MLH3) admin@NETSIDE.NET
NetSide Corporation
P.O.Box 403895
Miami Beach, FL 33140
305-531-1995

Record expires on 22-Nov-2003.
Record created on 22-Nov-1999.
Database last updated on 13-Feb-2003 21:23:34 EST.

Domain servers in listed order:
SUNNY.NETSIDE.NET 205.159.140.2
WWW.NETSIDE.NET 206.156.132.2
WEB.NETSIDE.NET 206.156.133.2


Mircea L. Halmu = Net kook and conspiracy theorist
--
The Rules of Spam | Maryland's New Anti-Spam Law
Where are we going? And what's with the hand basket?
beannet

join:2001-03-31
Chicago, IL

Re: this is nothing new

no, i am not kidding, paul vixie and mfn, above.net, dave rand, etc are net terrorists. i have had the displeasure of dealing with them personally, and vixie DOES work for »www.whitehat.com, he is nothing more than a hypocritical spammer.

i have been fighting against the 'tainted' bandwidth of above.net for years now, i wouldn't subject my customers to their fascist ways, EVER!

newview
Ex .. Ex .. Exactly
Premium
join:2001-10-01
Parsonsburg, MD

this is nothing new

Hmmmm . . . does your problem with Paul Vixie and the RBL have anything to do with Andrew Brunner's Cybercreek.com?

richb01803
Rich

join:2001-02-14
02100

Virus propagation

Don't the virus-scanning companies hire hackers to propagate viruses?

Cynical as it may be, a lot of companies (and governments) will stop at nothing to further their objectives.

Doctor Four
My other vehicle is a TARDIS
Premium
join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX
·AT&T U-Verse
·RoadRunner Cable
·AT&T Yahoo

This reminds me of Email Inspector

The absolute worst way to reach people who hate spammers
is to spam them with an anti-spam product or service. It
seems these guys are following the lead of Email Inspector.
IIRC, that one spammed the Stopping Spam forum here at
BBR a few months ago - they are still spamming people
elsewhere, judging by fresh postings in NANAS that come
up when doing a Google search in that group.
--
"Kayura or Badamon, whichever you are, you should know that I will never give up this battle. By the will of the Ancient, I shall succeed!" - Shuten (Anubis) from the Ronin Warriors.
PseudoCrow

join:2001-11-26
Saint Louis, MO

And you are being "monitored" ...

From the "Spam Arrest" privacy statement ....

----------------------------------------------------------
The only way in which you may "opt out" of our use of your personally identifiable information is to cancel your services with Spam Arrest by completing the "Termination of Service" form on the Site.

Please note that for users of our services who do not become Customers following the thirty (30) day free trial period, we will continue to monitor and track email sent to such user unless and until the user completes the "Termination of Service" form on the Site or Spam Arrest decides to cease monitoring and tracking emails sent to such user.
---------------------------------------------------------

Why would anyone sign up for service from this outfit?
rec3

join:2002-05-24

Re: And you are being "monitored" ...

You can always change your POP3 password. That will keep them from monitoring.

jmo

join:2001-11-17
West Bloomfield, MI

Yes, quite hypocritical...

Reminds me of a lot of pop-up ads I used to get for pop-up blocking software!

Speedy8
Premium
join:2002-08-22
Alliance, OH
clubs:

Re: Yes, quite hypocritical...

Hah, oops. I posted my comment without even seeing yours. But it's so true.

Speedy8
Premium
join:2002-08-22
Alliance, OH
clubs:

Popups

This reminds me of those popup stopper programs that have advertisements in popup windows.
bighappyneil

join:2000-07-27

A "sort-of" Apology from spam arrest

On the spamarrest.com website they have put up a quasi-apology for sending "unsolicited bulk emails" to people. But then they go on to say:

"While this contact was completely covered by our privacy policy, our customers concerns come first."

The problem is that not everyone they emailed agreed or even saw their privacy policy. Plus people can't agree to a privacy policy for others. They are trying to cover their backsides but they screwed up big with this mailing.

newview
Ex .. Ex .. Exactly
Premium
join:2001-10-01
Parsonsburg, MD
·Vonage

It's official . . . SpamArrest are spammers

quote:
SpamArrest is Spamming
    "What SpamArrest is doing is similar to Microsoft spamming everyone who ever sent mail to your hotmail.com account, or AOL spamming everyone who emailed an aol.com account, and so on. But it's even worse because SpamArrest -- as a purported anti-spam service whose website warns users of the 'exponentially increasing problem of spam' -- should know better."

(It's actually worse than this quote suggests, as SpamArrest are spamming lots of people who have not only never sent email to an @spamarrest.com email address but also never sent mail to any customer of SpamArrest. Not that it would be OK or 'not spam' even if they were only sending mail to people who had mailed their customers).

---snip---

Suggestions

To avoid spam from spamarrest in the future I would strongly suggest everyone who doesn't want spam from spamarrest
    1. block all email from @spamarrest.com email addresses
    2. block all email from 66.150.163.128 - 66.150.163.191 (66.150.163.128/26) and 63.251.163.144 = 63.251.163.159 (63.251.163.144/28)
    3. avoid ever sending any email to any @spamarrest.com address (including support@spamarrest.com and abuse@spamarrest.com as they are harvested too)
    4. remove all @spamarrest.com email addresses from all mailing lists
    5. remove all email addresses that cause a spamarrest challenge from all mailing lists
»static.samspade.org/spamarrest.html

--
The Rules of Spam | Maryland's New Anti-Spam Law
Where are we going? And what's with the hand basket?
drcard
Premium
join:2002-10-15
Riverside, CA

An oxy-moron if there ever was

Spammed by offers from anti-spammers! Popups offering anti-popup! Infected emails offered anti-virus!
Internet Service Provider's that don't have service or provide! In my book Spam Arrest's just another in the long list of those who don't practice what they "preach."

This type of garbage is killing OUR internet!
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