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clubs: | So true... We even have a BBR Ham Radio forum as well, for anyone that wants to find out more about it all..
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Surfinusa
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| Re: So true... said by KA3SGM  :We even have a BBR Ham Radio forum as well, for anyone that wants to find out more about it all.. » Ham Radio It is commendable to be a Ham Radio Operator.
For what its worth.
Don't you and others Hams here feel a bit concerned posting your Ham Call Sign being a little to private?
And I know some Hams will respond your revolver is loaded and your ready if someone tries anything.
But there has to be some better judgement about what you put up here about yourself.
Notice BBR Members don't usually give out more than there first name in there postings as there sig.
After all George _ _ _ _ _ _ (KA3SGM)it is not hard to find out all your personal information your address first last name ect..
Not trying to pick on you but all Hams who post there Sign on here are subject to the same disclosure of privacy.
Sure anyone can find you if they know your name but if they don't they can't and I am not referring to the Police or Government they know you were your at. I am talking about not so nice people out there.
I am not putting mine up here.
Anyone can look you up.
Why make yourself an easier target.
Lots of nuts without bolts out there.
Be careful Hams.
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Mactron
el Camino Real
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| Re: So true... said by Surfinusa :Don't you and others Hams here feel a bit concerned posting your Ham Call Sign being a little to private? Comfort, trust level ?.. It's their choice.
You and I aren't as trusting ?..
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kv5e
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| Wireless It's a great hobby and satisfying for those who want to learn about how to create your own radio communications system independent of the commercial world.
Lots of spectrum to play with for a multiple choice test and a modest investment.
Come "crunch time" there are ways to communicate with a piece of wire or modest antenna.
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Surfinusa
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| Nice Ham Radio operators provide a vital service in times of need.
Just a thought though BPL service could be down in case of a disaster so there wouldn't be interference. Possibly at some point they could co-exist. No power no interference. Disaster no Power.
As far as the article interesting reading except it mentioned the FCC administers the Ham exam 35 question test.
Actually it is not the FCC but authorized individuals with a license from the FCC are allowed (2)persons to administer the exam.
And no they don't get paid by the FCC so they are not FCC employees.
Other than that.
Another wonderful Ham to the Rescue story.
I love my Ham.
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join:2000-08-21
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| Re: Nice said by ke4pym :said by Surfinusa :Just a thought though BPL service could be down in case of a disaster so there wouldn't be interference. Possibly at some point they could co-exist. No power no interference. Disaster no Power. This isn't entirely true. If BPL is up and running in my disaster-less part of the world, then I'm going to have trouble hearing weak signals from a disaster area because BPL *IS* operational in my back yard. So very true and it is the biggest point people do not realize. | |
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Mactron
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| said by Surfinusa :Just a thought though BPL service could be down in case of a disaster so there wouldn't be interference. Possibly at some point they could co-exist. No power no interference. Disaster no Power. So folks are suppose to invest time, money, and effort into something that can only be used when BPL is down ? Pretty hard to setup, test, and regularly verify a setup that's being Jammed by BPL 99.99 % of the time. Your thought needs some more practical thinking I believe.
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| Re: Nice said by Mactron :said by Surfinusa :Just a thought though BPL service could be down in case of a disaster so there wouldn't be interference. Possibly at some point they could co-exist. No power no interference. Disaster no Power. So folks are suppose to invest time, money, and effort into something that can only be used when BPL is down ? Pretty hard to setup, test, and regularly verify a setup that's being Jammed by BPL 99.99 % of the time. Your thought needs some more practical thinking I believe. My 2 ¢ We have 4cents now.
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| Re: Nice said by Surfinusa :said by Mactron :said by Surfinusa :Just a thought though BPL service could be down in case of a disaster so there wouldn't be interference. Possibly at some point they could co-exist. No power no interference. Disaster no Power. So folks are suppose to invest time, money, and effort into something that can only be used when BPL is down ? Pretty hard to setup, test, and regularly verify a setup that's being Jammed by BPL 99.99 % of the time. Your thought needs some more practical thinking I believe. My 2 ¢ We have 4cents now. Wouldn't it be nice if everything worked the way you want it. The "no power, no interference" claim was debunked three or four years ago; it's a rather simplistic and severely flawed argument. Perhaps we should also dismantle our military during peacetime? No war, no military needed, eh?
As others have said, you can't train for emergency communications if there's no spectrum to train with and it's highly unlikely that citizens would spend thousands of dollars on equipment that would only be usable during mass power outages.
But this is all largely a moot point as most of the severely polluting BPL systems have shutdown and Internet access BPL is pretty much withering on the vine as it can't keep up with competing technology. The same marketing and legal drones who were spewing BPL propaganda with similar simple-minded answers back in 2003 and 2004 have moved on to other industries with their hockey-stick growth charts. But feel free to repeat the same material again...we all need a good laugh. | |
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| Re: Nice said by rf_engineer :The "no power, no interference" claim was debunked three or four years ago; it's a rather simplistic and severely flawed argument. Perhaps we should also dismantle our military during peacetime? No war, no military needed, eh? The same marketing and legal drones who were spewing BPL propaganda with similar simple-minded answers back in 2003 and 2004 have moved on to other industries with their hockey-stick growth charts. But feel free to repeat the same material again...we all need a good laugh. Dismantle the military great thinking.
Now if every country would do that.
Would be nice if HAM and BPL could co-exist.
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join:2005-07-22
Tempe, AZ
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| Re: Nice said by Surfinusa :Would be nice if HAM and BPL could co-exist. Apparently not with current technologies. It's been said that BPL can notch around hobby frequencies. Even that ARRL has supported such an implementation.
See »Catch up on the truth
You just don't hear that kind of balance because most hobbyists have a "circle the wagons" strategy. "If you give a little, they'll take more." It's understandable. You get that from any special interest group. That's why you have to take things with a grain of salt.
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Surfinusa
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| Re: Nice Your right take it with a grain of salt.
Personally I can care less what Hams want or BPL users want.
It would be nice to see people stop acting like there arm is being removed slowly. Or there liberties are being taken away.
All I hear is pouting/crying, and the you don't understand what this does to us.
They are right I don't understand and don't care.
I laugh and the next time I need someone with a Ham radios help I would rather wait for the ambulance to come or drive myself.
And for those who say what if those services are not available and I can't get help and need a Ham radio operator.
I say great if they want to help me. But otherwise I won't hold my breath.
I like Ham radios I like using them. But I am not going to cry over it if someone interferes I can just change channels or turn it off and make a phone call. (wow) that's a new concept. Save the Radio for when its a real emergency.
LOL I get a kick out of BPL and Hams crying about this and that.
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join:2003-08-04
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| Re: Nice said by Surfinusa :Your right take it with a grain of salt. Personally I can care less what Hams want or BPL users want. Trust me I can are less. Then why are you here and why should anyone care about your worthless opinions? | |
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| Re: Nice said by rf_engineer :said by Surfinusa :Your right take it with a grain of salt. Personally I can care less what Hams want or BPL users want. Trust me I can are less. Then why are you here and why should anyone care about your worthless opinions? About to ask you the same thing.
I am tired of hearing about people crying over spilled milk.
You say my worthless opinions? I guess it depends on what you call worthless. I am not giving my opinion. I express how I feel.
Like I said I can care less about the HAM/BPL arguments and would love to see them co-exist and stop the bickering.
And I would love it for members to be a little more respectful to other members ( such as yourself).
Learn some manners when posting here. It is not taken to kindly calling a Members post worthless. Take a lesson from this.
You don't have to agree with a post.
If the post was worthless you wouldn't have bothered replying or getting involved.
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join:2003-08-04
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| Re: Nice said by Surfinusa :said by rf_engineer :said by Surfinusa :Your right take it with a grain of salt. Personally I can care less what Hams want or BPL users want. Trust me I can are less. Then why are you here and why should anyone care about your worthless opinions? Not sure what your aim or trying to accomplish other than Trolling, stirring up trouble. I'll admit my post was badly worded and uncharacteristically troll-like. My apologies. My intent was that you don't seem to care about BPL, amateur radio, the interference issue or communications in general, so it's a bit pointless to post indifferent opinions, hence not much value to them. It's sort of like me posting in the gamer forums when I have no interest in that realm. When you characterize the debate as crying over spilled milk, it's apparent that you don't have an interest in the issues at hand.
Many of us have been following the BPL interference issue since 2003. Several of the problems have been resolved and in the remaining deployments, amateur radio and BPL have coexisted. The jury was still out on whether they could coexist in the mass geographical and high bandwidth deployments that BPL companies originally envisioned. However, Internet access BPL is essentially dying due to competition and lack of carrier interest, so I think the question will never be answered and many of the debates here are pointless. However if someone makes erroneous claims that amateur radio is useless or has no value in emergency communications, or the several other often-repeated wrong tidbits of so-called information, expect people like me to rebut. | |
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| Re: Nice Like I said before previous. I like Ham I and several others participate in Ham. I also however like BPL or at least the concept.
It would appear most of the time the forums are littered with arguments of people taking offense to someone who doesn't like Ham or BPL and it turns ugly.
Why play into there line of reasoning.
Thinking it will mislead the masses? I think not.
To many Ham radio operators out there.
As far as the BPL it is off to a rough start.
Giving in to Trolls who like to bash Ham or BPL is pointless.
That was the essence of my original post, plain put I can care less what others think and would like to see less bashing and arguing about what BPL does to Hams or bashing Hams calling them useless.
It is a shame that some BBR Members feel they have to bash others to get there point across.
This is not worth starting a Flame war over.
BBR doesn't need Trolls or fan boys ripping it up in here.
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| said by Mactron :So folks are suppose to invest time, money, and effort into something that can only be used when BPL is down ? Pretty hard to setup, test, and regularly verify a setup that's being Jammed by BPL 99.99 % of the time. Your thought needs some more practical thinking I believe. Just use the other frequencies that aren't affected by BPL. It will make communication in a disaster more challenging (relay nets, etc.). But, we're always treated to this cheerleading for hobby radio, about how it serves a valuable public service. If that's true, it should be desirable to get more hobbyists engaged as a team.
From my perspective, there are a lot of hobbyists who are so just for the hobby, not the public service we're always hearing about. Maybe public service participation should be mandatory. That would go a long way to prove there is a responsibility that comes with using the public's airwaves.
This is where those with a vested interest will say the government will be effected by BPL, therefore hobbyists are just riding on the coattails of legitimate users. If that's true, why parade public service around? Just say HF isn't going anywhere, and therefore hobbyists can use it for whatever they want?
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| Re: Nice said by amigo_boy :Just use the other frequencies that aren't affected by BPL. Mark Your many Anti Ham, BPL Cheerleader Biased posts here precede you. No response required.
Why don't don't YOU go use another means of communication other than the Internet...
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| Re: Nice said by Mactron :Your many Anti Ham, BPL Cheerleader Biased posts here precede you. No response required. FYI. I'm not pro-BPL. Just not buying the sales job radio hobbyists would like everyone to accept, unchallenged. Hobby radio may serve a valuable purpose. Maybe more should be expected from it. Maybe everyone can get by with FRS and CBRS.
Everything should be on the table. And, question everything. Especially those with a vested interest in the position they want everyone else to accept.
This is about the time someone will say "but it's an international treaty, so you'll have to change that. Until then, leave us alone." Ok. But, like the argument that HF is used by the government (therefore, radio hobbyists are deriving a coattail protection from interference), why go into all the self-ingratiating backslapping about serving a public service? Just say it's protected by an international treaty? Why the sales job? If you're going to put on lipstick, cover blemishes and wear a push-up bra, expect someone to ask questions. 
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| Re: Nice said by amigo_boy :said by Mactron :Your many Anti Ham, BPL Cheerleader Biased posts here precede you. No response required. FYI. I'm not pro-BPL. Just not buying the sales job radio hobbyists would like everyone to accept, unchallenged. Hobby radio may serve a valuable purpose. Maybe more should be expected from it. Maybe everyone can get by with FRS and CBRS. You're anti-ham and anti-fact, history has proven that. We've been down the same road again and again arguing with you, so it's no use debating with you leading statements like "maybe everyone can get by with FRS and CBRS". You rarely back up what you say and when you do it's usually your own made up "facts". | |
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join:2000-08-21
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| said by amigo_boy :said by Mactron :So folks are suppose to invest time, money, and effort into something that can only be used when BPL is down ? Pretty hard to setup, test, and regularly verify a setup that's being Jammed by BPL 99.99 % of the time. Your thought needs some more practical thinking I believe. Just use the other frequencies that aren't affected by BPL. It will make communication in a disaster more challenging (relay nets, etc.). But, we're always treated to this cheerleading for hobby radio, about how it serves a valuable public service. If that's true, it should be desirable to get more hobbyists engaged as a team. From my perspective, there are a lot of hobbyists who are so just for the hobby, not the public service we're always hearing about. Maybe public service participation should be mandatory. That would go a long way to prove there is a responsibility that comes with using the public's airwaves. This is where those with a vested interest will say the government will be effected by BPL, therefore hobbyists are just riding on the coattails of legitimate users. If that's true, why parade public service around? Just say HF isn't going anywhere, and therefore hobbyists can use it for whatever they want? Mark Fine, what other frequencies are useful?
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| Re: Nice said by moonpuppy :Fine, what other frequencies are useful? Do your research then get back to us. It's been discussed many times before. 2 meter and 70 cm would work fine. Of course, it would require hobbyists to really turn out and participate in civil service (forming nets back to undamaged locations where mainstream communications can be performed.). But, that shouldn't be a problem since we're always treated to these stories about hobbyists serving a valuable purpose. We just need to require more.
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| Re: Nice said by amigo_boy :said by moonpuppy :Fine, what other frequencies are useful? Do your research then get back to us. It's been discussed many times before. 2 meter and 70 cm would work fine. In your simplistic imaginary world it would be fine. And yes, it's been discussed many times before and you've been questioned many times before on how 2 meters and 70 centimeters could take the place of HF spectrum, considering neither band can travel around the world like HF. Still no answer.
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| Re: Nice said by rf_engineer :how 2 meters and 70 centimeters could take the place of HF spectrum, considering neither band can travel around the world like HF. Still no answer. Misdirection. Global communications weren't necessary for the Northwest floods, or Katrina. Just local communication back outside the disaster area where mainstream communications are available.
This is about the time hobbyists talk about extinction events like "Planet-X," meteor hits, nuclear war, etc. Uh huh.
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| Re: Nice said by amigo_boy :said by rf_engineer :how 2 meters and 70 centimeters could take the place of HF spectrum, considering neither band can travel around the world like HF. Still no answer. Misdirection. Global communications weren't necessary for the Northwest floods, or Katrina. Just local communication back outside the disaster area where mainstream communications are available. This is about the time hobbyists talk about extinction events like "Planet-X," meteor hits, nuclear war, etc. Uh huh. Mark Wrong again. Katrina affected a very large area where 2m communications (the band with more range than 70cm) would not have been practical or feasible.
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join:2005-07-22
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| Re: Nice said by moonpuppy :Katrina affected a very large area where 2m communications (the band with more range than 70cm) would not have been practical or feasible. Feasible under *your* terms. Terms that include *not* requiring everyone everyone to participate by forming relay nets. Terms that exclude the use of sat phones.
Sure, it would be different. Sure, it would expect more from those who slap themselves on their backs (because a handful volunteered during an emergency). Different isn't necessarily bad. Unless it goes against *your* vested interests.
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join:2000-08-21
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| Re: Nice said by amigo_boy :said by moonpuppy :Katrina affected a very large area where 2m communications (the band with more range than 70cm) would not have been practical or feasible. Feasible under *your* terms. Terms that include *not* requiring everyone everyone to participate by forming relay nets. Terms that exclude the use of sat phones. Sure, it would be different. Sure, it would expect more from those who slap themselves on their backs (because a handful volunteered during an emergency). Different isn't necessarily bad. Unless it goes against *your* vested interests. Mark Sat phones are an extra cost that no one wants to bear (not even the government.)
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join:2003-08-04
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| Re: Nice said by moonpuppy :said by amigo_boy :said by moonpuppy :Katrina affected a very large area where 2m communications (the band with more range than 70cm) would not have been practical or feasible. Feasible under *your* terms. Terms that include *not* requiring everyone everyone to participate by forming relay nets. Terms that exclude the use of sat phones. Sure, it would be different. Sure, it would expect more from those who slap themselves on their backs (because a handful volunteered during an emergency). Different isn't necessarily bad. Unless it goes against *your* vested interests. Mark Sat phones are an extra cost that no one wants to bear (not even the government.) Does he pay taxes? | |
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| Re: Nice said by rf_engineer :Does he pay taxes? He might but I doubt he wants the massive increases that come with what he is proposing. | |
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| Re: Nice said by moonpuppy :He might but I doubt he wants the massive increases that come with what he is proposing. It shouldn't take that many sat phones. Remember, the bulk of communications would be from radio hobbyists forming relay nets on 2 meter and 70cm back to areas where traditional communication exists. During Katrina, that would have been Baton Rouge?
It would also be possible to have a couple sets of phones and same-day fedex them to the appropriate people for use in the disaster area. Something like that could have occurred in advance of Katrina.
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| Re: Nice said by amigo_boy :It shouldn't take that many sat phones. Remember, the bulk of communications would be from radio hobbyists forming relay nets on 2 meter and 70cm back to areas where traditional communication exists. During Katrina, that would have been Baton Rouge? It would also be possible to have a couple sets of phones and same-day fedex them to the appropriate people for use in the disaster area. Something like that could have occurred in advance of Katrina. Mark Pray tell, how do you FedEx something to someone is a disaster area? Please explain that one.
You see how prepared the city of New Orleans and the state of Louisiana was prepared. Buses underwater, the stadium in a state of chaos, looters all over the place, etc.
As for not needing that many, you would need at least 1 per jurisdiction. And with many of the New Orleans Police Department either running away or looting the stores, i can imagine those sat phones gone before the first call is made. You also forgot to add the cost for calls since the government would have to pay for those too.
Baton Rogue was also pretty much devastated. I knew 3 co-workers who had to go down there just to get the place somewhat operational. I was scheduled to go down 2 days after them but the damage was so great, they got up what they could and left. There was still no power in the area. Cell phones did not work even after a week.
Your fantasies have barely any basis in fact.
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| said by amigo_boy :said by rf_engineer :how 2 meters and 70 centimeters could take the place of HF spectrum, considering neither band can travel around the world like HF. Still no answer. Misdirection. Global communications weren't necessary for the Northwest floods, or Katrina. Just local communication back outside the disaster area where mainstream communications are available. No misdirection. HF can be used for regional communications as well and could be of value in a northwest flood or Katrina situation. Read up on NVIS antennas and learn about 80 and 40 meters. | |
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kv5e
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| said by Surfinusa :Just a thought though BPL service could be down in case of a disaster so there wouldn't be interference. Possibly at some point they could co-exist. No power no interference. Disaster no Power. Poor implementations of BPL affect the HF spectrum which primarily utilizes skywave propagation. The problem with poor implementations of BPL is they make it difficult to hear communications coming in from areas further away where the emergency operations are taking place (need to think three dimensionally here).
Amateur radio is not the only users of the HF spectrum, poor implementations of BPL affect all HF users.
I think the BPL scale of economy wil be limited to SCADA for the electrical providers and they will be using BPL in a way that is sustainable for all.
I would like to address the VOIP statement. VOIP is not limited to the National Information Infrastructure or internet. DStar and other links may be configured with redundant WAN routers and hardened RF links on the PHY layer between gateway nodes. Need to think out of the box a little more as it is IP over some PHY layer and although the NIIS is easy, they are other and redundant solutions.
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| Re: Nice DStar is cool technology. I thought about using it as part of my counties Winlink deployment (www.winlink.org), however it would eat a big chuck of my ARES/RACES budget, best bang for the buck was the 1.2ghz radios, but that is short range line of site and in my hilly terrain would require microwave links.. too complicated to the KISS environment you try to work with in during an emergency or disaster.. so I went with a TS-2000 and Pactor 3 which will allow my group to stay in touch via e-mail to the outside world with an RF link 600 - 700 miles away to a PMBO in Nova Scotia. I think I would be better off setting up wireless G on Steroid's than DStar from a cost effective perspective.
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and do you really need to set the alarm when your 20 feet away from the car?
some call us useless radio heads, that we may be but we all ways help out when we can.
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| BPL BPL hasn't proven it's worth anywhere it's been deployed. AT least a few companies, Motorola, being one has been working to work on stopping the interference to licensed radio service.
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| As I put on my flame retardant suit... Obviously there is a benefit to HAM radio.
I am ABSOLUTELY no expert in the field, I got my ticket last week.
I do wonder if there is too much spectrum devoted to this, I have VERY limited experience but it seems to me like there is a ton of spectrum, and not many users.
One of our local clubs is working to downsize their directors because they don't have enough active members, this is the same club with the best local repeaters. The hot topic on the repeater last week was someone going to Walmart for bread, he called home 4 times to see "If he needed to pick up anything else", my cell phone does that.
Times have changed.
DSLR is always quick to bash BPL but I am all for someone else competing with the cable and telco's. Since most of the power grids in Nebraska are owned by their users, this is a good deal for us... if it works, and we can kill our muni law.
One real shock to me was when studying for the test was systems such as WIRES and DSTAR that are using VOIP between repeaters. News Flash: In a communications emergency when we need communications and there is no internet...
So we go to the other bands... But wait, used all these VOIP systems for the 2M folks and they don't have anything other than 2M equipment.
When I took my test EVERYONE else in the room was twice my age, unfortunately it's a dieing breed.
I don't think the hams need to find something else to do, but if something can be done for BPL and hams to co-exist that would be a good thing. | |
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When Networks Fail, Hams to the Rescue
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