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For speed, AT&T is tops...
08:53AM Thursday May 15 2008 by Karl Bode
tags: competition · business · wireless · Verizon Wireless Broadband · Cingular Wireless · Sprint Broadband Direct
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Computer World runs the Sprint, AT&T and Verizon Wireless 3G networks through their paces and dissects the pros and cons of each. The networks were all tested using 3G cards on a Lenovo ThinkPad X300 notebook at 500 data points at eight different places in New York, New Jersey and Connecticut (not much use to many of you, I know). On speed alone, the website claims that AT&T takes the cake:
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In tests, AT&T's network left its competitors in the digital dust, with average download speeds of 755Kbit/sec. and average upload speeds of 484Kbit/sec. The peak download speed was 1.6Mbit/sec. It connected in just 3.0 seconds and loaded the test Web page in 0.228 seconds. On the downside, the cellular modem ate up 40 minutes of battery time, midway between Sprint's hour and Verizon's 20 minutes.
Though the test does include page load times, it doesn't really dig too deeply into latency. Nor does it get into the fine print restrictions you'll face, like oh, the fact you can't legally use your Verizon EVDO connection for anything other than e-mail or browsing.

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n2jtx

join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY
·Optimum Online

Interesting Review

When I saw the review the other day I was impressed by the detail. Unfortunately TMO, my carrier, is too new to the game to be reviewed.

My firm has an all-you-can-eat plan with Sprint and that is probably the best value as the review points out. While AT&T is the fastest, those overage charges are crazy! Of course Verizon has their TOS that can get you disconnected for doing the most innocuous things.
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joeschuh

join:2000-10-02
Englewood, OH
·Sprint Mobile Broa..

Sprint the worst?

I think Sprint actually beats Verizon in most cases (where I have tried both). I can't speak to AT&T -- although the article read like a commercial for AT&T.

Sprint was said to have the slowest network yet pages loaded the fastest (although tiny differences).

tc1uscg

join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI
·Comcast
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·VoiceEclipse


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May 16th, @01:53PM

Re: Sprint the worst?

Isn't it funny, a rag that gets some big advertising bucks always seems to "pick" one that's a suprise to all. I had just read this:
I was in and around New York City and traveling out to San Francisco, Las Vegas, Salt Lake City, Detroit and Baltimore. And with that rig and travel, I was able to directly compare two competitive wireless data networks: Verizon's BroadbandAccess and Sprint's Mobile Broadband. And in many ways, the Sprint product was superior to the higher-priced Verizon riff.
Source: »www.thestreet.com/story/10415600···ons.html

Then I read this "other" one. Guess if I was pushing SPrint over VZ, I would be using thestreet's article. If I wanted to hype AT&T, I would be using PCwhoever. Bottom line, what works best, in REAL WORLD use, is the way to go. I didn't even know AT&T had anything that was considered "broadband" . Not some "drive down the street and see how fast it is" test. Having been using Sprint's EVDO-Rev-A for the past 8 months, and having seen the "other guy" in action. I'll stay where I am. It's more consistent and predicable then any other brand I've used.

dcdeadbeat

@insidehighered.com

they all have issues

I am in D.C. and have laptops with Sprint cards, Verizon cards, and At&t. Some of my laptops have internal cards and some have either usb or pcmcia. I have to say, no matter where you are, all 3 networks have issues. However if I had to pick a clear winner, I would agree with AT&T.

The only real advantage for Verizon is that it works in the tunnels of the Metro, because you must have internet access while underground.

techjoe
Premium
join:2004-02-20
Worth, IL
·Sprint Mobile Broa..

riiiight

The slowest of the three cellular data networks, the Sprint network delivered on average 494Kbit/sec. download speeds to my notebook. That's roughly a third slower than AT&T's network. Its average upload speed was 294Kbit/sec. and the network's top speed was 1.2Mbit/sec. It connected in 3.7 seconds.
494kbit? Hmm thats strange, everywhere I go with my Sprint I clock ~700kbit-1mbit download rates. I've been to a half dozen states, urban and rural-ish areas.

At work I benchmarked AT&T vs Sprint quite a few times and Sprint always came out on top transfer speed-wise. Our users have been trading in their AT&T cards for Sprint left right and center over the past year or two as well.

YMMV definitely on this one I guess.
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patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

Re: riiiight

Agree, Sprint EVDO has always been regarded as faster than Verizon EVDO.

en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA

Re: riiiight

Their article claims to have only tested in NY/CT area.
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weaseled386

join:2008-04-13
Port Orange, FL
·Verizon Wireless B..
·mybrighthouse

My unofficial tests don't match...

Okay, so they're not exactly tests. A coworker of mine had an AT&T 3G aircard, and I have a Verizon. On several occasions we've sat right beside each other to see how things load. In the middle of Orlando, Gainesville & Daytona Beach, Florida the Verizon chewed up the AT&T and spit it out!

I thought it may have been his laptop settings (he knows little about laptops & settings). So I loaded up the AT&T control panel and had the same result has he in my laptop.

Down here AT&T cell service is king. I just wish they would have branched their tests to other markets.

bobjohnson

join:2007-02-03
Titusville, FL
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·RoadRunner Cable
·Vonage


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May 15th, @09:58AM

Re: My unofficial tests don't match...

said by weaseled386 See Profile :

Okay, so they're not exactly tests. A coworker of mine had an AT&T 3G aircard, and I have a Verizon. On several occasions we've sat right beside each other to see how things load. In the middle of Orlando, Gainesville & Daytona Beach, Florida the Verizon chewed up the AT&T and spit it out!

I thought it may have been his laptop settings (he knows little about laptops & settings). So I loaded up the AT&T control panel and had the same result as he in my laptop.

Down here AT&T cell service is king. I just wish they would have branched their tests to other markets.
here, sprint cards run on average 2000 dn and 500 up and dwarfs at&t's 3g coverage in much of florida

gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall

join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
·Cruzio Internet


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May 15th, @10:50AM

Re: My unofficial tests don't match...

I'm on the Sprint EVDO rev0 (still waiting on my Touch revA update) and it's working pretty well ...

ATT doesn't have 3g available here.
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en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA

Re: My unofficial tests don't match...

When I tethered my cellphone to my laptop, I had ~1Mbps down, and that was last August here in Los Angeles.
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randomguy

join:2008-07-09

I'm also in Florida and I've seen speeds from 400-1400 kbps. As for AT&T being the fastest? Maybe next year when they finish they're upgrades (expecting 7Mbps down) but overall it's between Verizon and Sprint. There's an article that looks at all the providers side by side here »www.mobile-broadband-reviews.com/Comparison. It basically says that Sprint's got more coverage while Verizon is fully EVDO Rev A. Overall, Verizon beats them out.

If Urban, get Verizon, if rural, get Sprint.
bignate

join:2005-12-05
Austin, TX

ATT

i use my att Tilt almost every daay tethered to my laptop and i get between 700k and 1.7m down but it is ususally on the high side.

when i use speedtest.net the average i get is about 1.5m down and 450k up with latency of about 180ms(this varies the most). though if it fall to edge these numbers drop to about 200k/80k/500ms.

MattE
Obama '08
Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
·Corporate Colocation

Suspect Results

If they want to test the actual technology, test it in a rural area with no load on the towers. 500, or 5000, data points doesn't matter if you're testing at 8 overloaded towers.

This is a representative sample of the NY Metro area only and should be treated as such.

dadkins
Living on a Blu Planet
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast

Huh?

"... the fact you can't legally use your Verizon EVDO connection for anything other than e-mail or browsing"

Uhm... say again why this would appeal to someone who needed access from more places than Hotspots.

Need to connect for business, but they don't allow anything but email and browsing?
Get kicked for uploading/downloading a spreadsheet? WTF?

Can you screw me now? Good!
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AZ_OGM

join:2007-01-12
Phoenix, AZ

Re: Huh?

Not necessarily true. My company uses Verizon aircards at remote sites that don't have any other means of connecting to the internet (Cable or DSL). Its plugged into a TopGlobal which connects to a Cisco VPN firewall. We can run 3 citrix terminals and a network printer. Aside from crappy latency, they are fairly rock solid. I don't know what they pay for AYCE, but its better than other options.
Once again YMMV, but Verizon's EVDO appears to work better here than Sprint's.
majortom1029

join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY

hmm

Of course they didnt test on long island 3g coverage stops basically at the nassau suffolk border.
mlohrwork

join:2001-05-30
Laurel, MD
·Cingular Wireless

It all depends on where you are!

I have tested the ATT laptop connect with the pcmcia card in many places.

Kauai ~20kbps down and 13 kbps up
Honolulu airport 800 kbps down 109 kbps up
Phoenix Arizona 1600 kbps down 1400 kbps up
Hagerstown MD 16 kbps down and 16 kbps up
University of MD 1200 kbps down 300 kbps up
Denver Co 84 kbps down 38 kbps up
Blue Ridge drive 8 kbps down 6 kbps up

performed with Dslreports java test. The mobile tests gave higher numbers on all the edge (slow numbers) measurements.

It is all location! Chose the system by where you will use it. It has worked every where so far. With ATT all have indicated a POP in the center of the US.
ATHF

join:2004-12-20
00000

3.6 minutes or 228 seconds to load a webpage

even on the fastest AT&T
Wow i takes 3.6 minutes or 228 seconds to load a webpage

that's worse then dialup must be alot of latency

scavio
Premium
join:2001-07-14
Melmac
clubs:

Re: 3.6 minutes or 228 seconds to load a webpage

Ummm... you're missing a decimal point there big guy. .228 seconds, not 228.

avd706
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Great Neck, NY

Doesn't Sprint and Verizon roam on each others networks. How did the author know what network he was actually on?

There are too many variables here, overloaded cell sites, sub optimal drivers, poor hardware implementation. Its just not comprehensive.

Fox McCloud
Ron Paul Enthusiast

join:2006-07-23
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Verizon BroadbandA..

Bull

I've never seen AT&T hit 2.5 megabits per second...I've only seen Sprint users be able to do this (there was one Verizon user who was really close to this, but, overall, Sprint was way faster).

EVDOforums has a map that lists a whole bunch of users and the speeds they got...AT&T is not included, but just from seeing people posts speeds and such, I've yet to see AT&T top Sprint.
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xenophon

join:2007-09-17

Re: Bull

evdomaps.com shows performance of cards all over the country and Sprint almost always comes out on top.

For cellphone comparison, also see...
»/mspeed?domains=1
wispalord

join:2007-09-20
House Springs, MO

Location

i think the difference depends on where you are, and the load on the network in that area, there all close to the same, and att prices is to high, Sprint is unlimited and p2p works, verizon well we all know there story.
SpookyET

join:2001-04-30
Lawrenceville, GA

Rubbish!

In Europe, 3G is at least 3.6Mib/s. That's faster than my fibre optics IFITL AT&T home connection.

We are 6 years behind Japan and 4 years behind Europe. Because, it's fast, they even have video calling for $0.35/minute.

Cellular in this country is a joke.
bartolo5

join:2001-12-03
San Carlos, CA

Re: Rubbish!

That's not fair to the US at all. Europe hasn't had HSDPA for too long, and actually AT&T had HSDPA before any european carrier. Europe has had 3G for a long long time, but no one was really using it for internet access until recently, mainly due to the prohibitive prices imposed by european carriers on data. Video calling.. who cares? I don't know anyone who ever uses the service in Europe.
Cellular in the US is just fine, better in some senses than Europe, and worse in others.
dlr_graph

join:2002-02-03
Elizabeth, NJ

Best card

I have used both AT&T and Verizon more than once and with different cards. All AT&T cards always have had about the same speed (between 1.1MBit/s through 1.6Mbit/sec). All Verizon cards provided lousy speeds ranging between 80 Kbit/sec up to a maximum of 800 Kbit/sec. At the present time I have not been able to get real high speeds using a Verizon card close to where I work (a major airport) but always get maximum speeds with my AT&T cards anywhere.

I have never used a Sprint card but do know that the speeds are similar to AT&T.
flyingjoey

join:2005-11-07
Jersey City, NJ
·Verizon FIOS

How about this?

All 3 providers offer data services for 59 bucks each... All with a 5 gig limit except for Sprint.

But Veriz & Communist T&T will rape your wife, molest your kids, and set you on fire if you tether from a phone... Although they offer it for 40+ bucks a month.

Now Sprint will let you download until you're blue in the face, for $15 bucks a month... and not even bitch about it.

So let's see now... 40 bucks + or $15... Average latency 98ms, 1.3 (down), 550 (up) These are the numbers I've seen while tethering with my 6800 rev a.

So which provider will you choose if you're playing for this yourself?

ilikeme
I live in a van down by the river.
Premium
join:2002-08-27
Houston, TX
clubs:
·Comcast

Re: How about this?

said by flyingjoey See Profile :

All 3 providers offer data services for 59 bucks each... All with a 5 gig limit except for Sprint.

But Veriz & Communist T&T will rape your wife, molest your kids, and set you on fire if you tether from a phone... Although they offer it for 40+ bucks a month.

Now Sprint will let you download until you're blue in the face, for $15 bucks a month... and not even bitch about it.

So let's see now... 40 bucks + or $15... Average latency 98ms, 1.3 (down), 550 (up) These are the numbers I've seen while tethering with my 6800 rev a.

So which provider will you choose if you're playing for this yourself?
At&t or Verizon. Sprint's customer service sucks and the coverage is really bad here compared to At&t and Verizon.
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geeke19

join:2004-09-11
Lake Cormorant, MS

Re: How about this?

here is mine speedtest using sprint



upload is slow cause I am busy FTPing files to my website.

Mattie_B

@myvzw.com

Well my Verizon works pretty decent

I agree with people stating the tests are done on way overloaded towers. I'm out in a small town that recently got Verizon Rev-A coverage and there are not that many users out here.

I've gotten faster at home but I just tested it at home now and here is what I got.



Much better than my dial up. I'd say I average around 800-900 down and 500-600 upload. BTW this is from Central PA and I'm 7 miles out from my tower with lots of trees and mountains in between!
dialupsux

join:2007-01-09
Stony Point, NC

verizon speed

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