  BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | FAIL Awesome several the already challenging local stations to get in via OTA will now be impossible if someone decides to use the same frequencies for white space because they aren't on the list. But hey that means more customers for cable/satellite. I guess the fewer people you can show using OTA the easier it will be to finally kill it off for good so you can sell the spectrum. | |
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join:2004-01-26
japan
kudos:2 | Re: My zip code has only 1 of 50 channels available
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| I smell biz opportunity here ... that's potentially dead on arrival with incumbents forbidding municipalities from starting their own ISPs.
But it would be interesting to run a couple T1's in these rural areas and terminate them with wifi antennas. Sounds a lot cheaper than reselling copper.
How much bandwidth can one single 5 MHz channel provide in any given area? Doesn't sound like a lot. | |
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OwlSaverOwlSaverPremium
join:2005-01-30
Berwyn, PA | How is this used in a mobil device? So, if I get on a plane and then get of it in some location - how does it know what space to use? Does the mobile device need the entire database in its memory? If not, is there a safe choice it can use to access the database? It will be interesting to see how this plays out. | |
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| | White Spaces I don't really see the business opportunities in White Space Broadband. Perhaps if you are trying to provide 1.5Mbps to customers, but real broadband... I just don't see it. Tiny channels providing service over a larger area than existing networks with expensive rural backhaul just sounds like trouble. | |
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| openbox9Premium
join:2004-01-26
japan
kudos:2 | Re: White Spaces Tiny channels? Some areas have a lot of unused "tiny" channels that can amount to quite a bit of unused bandwidth. If this works as advertised, it could be an efficient use of spectrum that can potentially benefit rural areas. Regardless of what the naysayers believe, wireless is the future for the more rural areas and this could be one mechanism to deploy access to those cost prohibitive environments. | |
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| It is a larger area to cover but it would be mostly rural. It shouldn't present the typical challenges that impose deploying a finite resource to a customer base with the density found in urban or metropolitan areas.
I could see customers paying say $20 for 1.5 MBps wifi Internet with no caps. It would be slower, but it would be affordable. In this economy, I'd say more people are letting their wallets do more of the talking. | |
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|  Simba7I Void Warranties
join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT | Each "Tiny Channel" can carry up to 16Mbps of traffic. | |
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1 edit | Re: White Spaces That 16Mbps gets split up between a lot of customers. That doesn't leave much per subscriber. It will have to be heavily capped unless companies want a few subscribers trashing the whole network.
Exede can already deliver 16Mbps per subscriber. Other than latency and slightly higher caps, White Spaces isn't promising to do much more than Exede. | |
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join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT
1 edit | Re: White Spaces Satellite? Don't make me laugh. Have you used satellite?
..and that's ONE channel. 16Mbps on ONE channel. Actually, according to a few sources, they say it can be up to 22Mbps.
Satellite.. Where the caps are incredibly low and the latency sucks. Not to mention the install fees and contracts. "Slightly higher caps" my ass.
EDIT: Oh ya, that's if you could get Exede. Looks like we don't have a single installer in the entire state. WTF? Also, we're not even covered (along with most of the western half of the U.S.).
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| | | | | | Re: White Spaces I have used satellite and yes it is awful. And I would be truly shocked if White Spaces delivered faster speeds or much higher caps. It will have lower latency, but that doesn't really matter when the caps suck. In no way do I see white spaces as being the rural internet savior the media is trying to make it out to be.
Exede 5 runs at speeds much higher than 5Mbps most of the time. | |
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join:2011-01-27
El Paso, TX | Wake me when it's over... By the time this gets off the ground i suspect we'll have far better solutions with the regular "garbage" frequencies. | |
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this looks like trouble