  gatorkramNeed for SpeedPremium
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kudos:2 | ROFL And I guess the earth is really flat too..
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New Haven, CT | Re: ROFL said by gatorkram:And I guess the earth is really flat too.. Well according to The View co-host Sherri Shephard it just might be...
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Airwolf7Premium
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Franklin, KY
kudos:1 | Idiots in action! Democracy is an evil thing because it lets idiots have a say in things. | |
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| | | Re: Idiots in action! HERETIC...BURN AT THE STAKE!! You speak in tongues and witchery I tell you...But ya, you're right. The bad thing is the most ignorant amongst us often have the biggest say. After all, they WHINE, SCREAM, MOAN, and CRY the loudest. | |
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|  leXicon5Pelosi, SHUT YOUR Fing Pie HolePremium
join:2000-12-27
Saint Louis, MO
1 edit | said by Airwolf7:Democracy is an evil thing because it lets idiots have a say in things. Yeahhhhh....Hitler tried to change that...
It's also the beauty of democracy....it lets ALL voices be heard...not just the morons who THINK they're smart....or should be the only voices heard.
There is more REAL research needing to be done. If I can take a fluorescent bulb and walk under power lines and have it light up and said power lines cannot be put up within so many feet of schools and other locations...then there might be some validity to any claim. They certainly found connections between power lines and health before...it can happen again with all the tons of RF floating around. Could be some strange combination of one combined with another...that they haven't discovered yet.
Any asshat who purports to know everything there is to know about the physiology of every human on earth, how their unique body reacts to every radio wave, every sound wave, everything that touches everybody...is a moron. Truth IS, we DON'T know and CAN'T know...
Until more IS done to study it....and not paid for by the people who stand to make money...REAL research...then NOBODY...not even the self-proclaimed experts in this thread can say squat one way OR the other.
Until PROVEN beyond a reasonable doubt....anything can be true....
It's shown time and time and time again...."experts" who say "That can't BE!" are proven wrong years later with better instruments and studies. The inverse is also true.... | |
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| | | | Re: Idiots in action! You do know that the studies have proven otherwise, right?
»www.bchydro.com/safety/electroma···664.html
The fluorescant bulb trick only works directly UNDER the lines, and the EMF field falls off at a geometric rate the further you are from the lines.. 20m away, and there's almost nothing.
damned hippies... | |
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Rego Park, NY | I'm loving it hmmmmm....let's light up our jane and sing along goombaya.... | |
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| | | Re: Great Business Oppurtunity Careful, someone might take you up on that business opportunity.
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Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | said by lazerace5:Wi-Fi proof your home against dangerous radio waves. We take pride in providing the best protection from harmful radio wave signals including wi-fi, radio, television, cellular and satellite radio waves. Call for an estimate, our professional technician will analyze your home for those sneaky radio waves that penetrate your home and your loved ones. Call 1-888-GET-REAL. Hey, now the telcos and cable companies can use groups like this to stop muni-wifi efforts. No complaining about tax dollars - just tell the residents they will all die from wireless. 
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| | | | Re: Great Business Oppurtunity Uh oh, I am surrounded by people with cell phones. I am melting, melting, oh what a world. | |
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join:2001-08-20
Santa Rosa, CA
kudos:9 | Wi-Fi for Sebastopol Sonic.net is the ISP who had a contract to install access points to provide free Wi-Fi on city light poles, at our expense (the project is not taxpayer supported).
Here's my blog article on this topic from this weekend: »corp.sonic.net/blog/2008/03/23/s···ontract/
And the local newspaper (the comments are interesting): »www1.pressdemocrat.com/article/2···ate=kart
Meanwhile, our Wi-Fi mesh deployments in other communities are doing well, with over 250 users per day utilizing the free network. Info and a map linked here: »www.sonic.net/wifi/
-Dane Jasper
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join:2001-02-15
Wichita, KS
kudos:1 | Genius! said by HealthyHomeAlliance :
the difficulty and cost of adequately securing such networks from identity theft, loss of personal privacy, and the unauthorized monitoring of individuals who use such networks is alarming.
Yep it is alarming that it takes 10 minutes to look up online how to secure a router. 
said by HealthyHomeAlliance :
Monumental consequences to the city and its citizens could be caused by a virus being introduced into the system.
I am truly surprised they did not throw in the words "terrorism" or "Al Queda" 
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zed2608Premium
join:2007-09-30
Cleveland, TN
kudos:1 | ppl are irrational beings if one thinks something is real then it becomes real hence the placebo effect in medicine
if one believes wi-fi is bad for you one tends to think it is the cause of your problems | |
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | Re: ppl So the answer should be to have big headlines in the local newspapers: "WiFi Problems All Solved" "No one can get hurt by WiFi anymore", maybe that would convince them they were all better  | |
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| | zed2608Premium
join:2007-09-30
Cleveland, TN
kudos:1 Reviews:
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| Re: ppl that's correct if it said wifi was good for health ppl would probably actually claim it helped them
just like when they had on the radio years ago that there was an alien attack (it was a show pretended to be a news broadcast)even though there was no attack ppl were panicked they left there house stoves caught fire ppl blamed aliens and all heck broke loss | |
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| |  ropeguruPremium
join:2001-01-25
Mechanicsville, VA | So just what do you think marketing is based on?? It may not necessarily be big bold and large print in the newspaper, but they use the ability to suggest in advertising and after one hears it enough that start to believe it. | |
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| | | These people remind me of the type of individual that no matter how strong the evidence is they put their hands over their ears, close their eyes, shake their head, and loudly say, "La, la, la, la" over and over again.
Just goes to show you that some people will always take their beliefs and fears and trump them over reality and reason. I guess irrationality is one of the prices we have to pay for being the most intelligent organisms on the planet
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join:2001-11-30
Greenwood, IN | Re: ppl The hands over their ears La, La, La, La people who refuse to accept truth remind me of the people who hear proof that Hillary lies over and over and still think she is the greatest thing since slice d bread. La, La, La, La, La | |
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|  C0deZer0Oc'D To Rhythm And PolicePremium
join:2001-10-03
Tempe, AZ | said by "Tommy Lee Jones in Men in Black" :
The person is smart. People are dumb, panicky and violent, and you know it. Seems appropriate here. | |
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axus
join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC | safety is good.. It's good to investigate these things, but low level radiation effects on people have been tested plenty of times with no bad results. Being near a high power line could have some effects, wifi isn't powerful enough to do anything though. Of course, it IS microwave radiation
How can a few people derail an effort? What about democracy? I'd think it should take more than a few. | |
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| | I'll bet $100... .....that the people who claim WiFi harms people also carry and use cell phones. If that is the case, each person who signed that petition should be sued for stupidity. | |
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 GlaiceStill around herePremium
join:2002-10-01
North Babylon, NY | Blah More polis caving in to crap that has no solid evidence. Sometimes I really hate liberal wimp states like California. | |
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| | Hot Head "Ever notice that your skin gets warm after a long call? That’s the only side effect of RF energy - warming. That is how microwave ovens work, at a much higher power level of 500-700 watts."
Ummm... actually, that's the battery warming up. I don't recall my head warming up due to RF energy.
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| zed2608Premium
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Cleveland, TN
kudos:1 | Re: Hot Head actually it does warm up due to rf energy but it is so small that it is like .0001 degrees | |
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| | CorydonCultivant son jardinPremium
join:2008-02-18
Denver, CO | Re: Hot Head If I remember my phys chem (it's been a while) RF emissions cause changes in rotational states of molecules, while microwave ovens are set up to cause changes in the bending and stretching frequencies of the bonds in water and most fats (which is how they heat food). Not the same thing at all—there's a lot more energy in a microwave.
RF emissions don't have anywhere near enough energy to actually alter chemical bonds (and thus cause cancer). | |
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join:2001-01-25
Mechanicsville, VA | Re: Hot Head said by Corydon:RF emissions don't have anywhere near enough energy to actually alter chemical bonds (and thus cause cancer). [sarcasm]
Apparently it does. Seems at least one town in California believes it so it must be true.[/sarcasm]
Now I know why all those cows in California are so happy. They are eating the pot fields. | |
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| | Fun fix If the city would like to get rid of these nuts, just string a few dozen high-tension power lines over the downtown apartments. That should quickly clear the area of any wi-fi pansies. | |
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|  Doctor FourMy other vehicle is a TARDISPremium
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Dallas, TX | Re: Fun fix said by bigskank:If the city would like to get rid of these nuts, just string a few dozen high-tension power lines over the downtown apartments. That should quickly clear the area of any wi-fi pansies. And they don't even have to be connected for them to
believe they are affecting their health.
The tinfoil hat crowd are pretty much of the same ilk.
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Doylestown, PA | Re: Fun fix said by Doctor Four:And they don't even have to be connected for them to believe they are affecting their health. EXACTLY!!! That is such a valid comment! | |
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join:2000-08-13
Middletown, CT | I found this somewhere
aCk! |
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| zed2608Premium
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Cleveland, TN
kudos:1 | Re: I found this somewhere man i love that image lol | |
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|  JammerMan79Premium,VIP
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Prince George, BC
kudos:10 | it's part of this cartoon.. | |
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| | chrisPoor Impulse ControlPremium
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Middletown, CT | Re: I found this somewhere LOVE it! | |
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quatrixPremium
join:2005-02-11
South FL
kudos:2 | Do we need to post about this every day? I think we got the point, and the people who haven't gotten the point don't use this web site anyway. | |
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join:2001-03-15
Smithtown, NY
1 edit | What a load of rubbish I bet half of these anti Wi Fi idiots either smoke, don't wear seat belts or have busted smoke detectors in their homes. | |
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 GNHtolle causamPremium
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Arlington, TX |  Have no fear...
»zapatopi.net/afdb/ | |
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|  bigunkGort, Klattu Birada Nikto
join:2001-02-10
USA | Re: Have no fear... HAHAHAHAHA!!! Notice the second picture down on that website looks like Obama? | |
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| | GNHtolle causamPremium
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Arlington, TX | Re: Have no fear... A striking resemblance! | |
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 La LunaSurvived AshrafulPremium
join:2001-07-12
Warwick, NY
kudos:3 | The first problem ...is the blatant lying from these people. No WiFi in London or any other major European city? WTF?
....In Europe they are much more advanced than us, and there wifi is not allowed in cities in the European commonwealth....
»radar.oreilly.com/archives/2008/···ifi.html
These fruitloops have absolutely NO credibility whatsoever. Since there is no valid research that shows WiFi is "hazardous" to health, town councils should ignore them and not cave into them. Rather, they should be directed to the nearest psychiatrist to treat their hypochondria.
Maybe these people are hired shills for the telcos. I can't imagine why else they would make an asses out of themselves when they know how easily they are proved wrong.
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| | | Re: The first problem said by La Luna:Maybe these people are hired shills for the telcos. Nope. The town is run by a bunch of kooks. Be thankful you live 100x farther away from there as I do.
Lastest population estivate for Sebastopol is 7500. Superpages.com lists 67 providers of Mental Health Services in Sebastopol, CA, nearly 1 for every 100 residents! I suspect that's a booming industry there.
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| Re: The first problem DOStradamus: you are misrepresenting Sebastopol.
Sebastopol is the shopping center for all of West Sonoma county, and even for a reasonable part of Western Santa Rosa.
Using the same switchboard.com as you used you can see that on a per capita basis we have far more gas stations, restaurants, and grocery stores as Santa Rosa (those were the only services I looked up).
For example:
We have one gas station for every 937 residents, as compared to one for each 3,650 residents of Santa Rosa.
We have one 'mental health services' per 112 residents, versus one per 335 in Santa Rosa.
Your assertion that only 'kooks' use mental health services
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| | | DaneJasperSonic.NetPremium,VIP
join:2001-08-20
Santa Rosa, CA
kudos:9 | Re: The first problem Science! I love it when the facts are viewed with objectivity.
It's rhetoric that got us into this "ban the Wi-Fi" situation, so I love your statistics Rich.
The net result (DOS) is that it doesn't take a large population of irrational but vocal people to sway the political process. The outcome is the same, but it's painting with a more narrow brush.
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