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Mississauga, ON | haha.. that's an awesome picture. | |
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Bozeman, MT | Re: haha.. said by battleop:Pfff I did this flying in a Cirrus SR22 on a 400 mile trip at 4500 feet. I was able to see thousands of SSIDs using netstumbler. I have difficulty seeing SSIDs from a couple of hundred feet... ?  | |
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|  antdudeA Ninja AntPremium,VIP
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| said by Gami00:that's an awesome picture. I have seen that image on here before with an older story.  | |
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Rancho Cucamonga, CA | old news Not only are they not Dutch, this is old. They were at Defcon a month or so ago. | |
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|  ThrowDemsOutIf you can't convince 'em, confuse 'emPremium
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kudos:4 | Re: old news said by tacoma:Not only are they not Dutch, this is old. They were at Defcon a month or so ago. And if the FAA gets word they are flying a RC aircraft over populated areas, they may have their plane confiscated. | |
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| Re: old news said by ThrowDemsOut:said by tacoma:Not only are they not Dutch, this is old. They were at Defcon a month or so ago. And if the FAA gets word they are flying a RC aircraft over populated areas, they may have their plane confiscated. Since when are RC aircraft illegal in the US?
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| | | ThrowDemsOutIf you can't convince 'em, confuse 'emPremium
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said by Gbcue:said by ThrowDemsOut:said by tacoma:Not only are they not Dutch, this is old. They were at Defcon a month or so ago. And if the FAA gets word they are flying a RC aircraft over populated areas, they may have their plane confiscated. Since when are RC aircraft illegal in the US? RC aircraft aren't illegal and I never said they were. But there are rules that must be observed. And the FAA can take action when the rules aren't followed.
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»www.modelaircraft.org/files/105.pdf
»www.popsci.com/diy/article/2010-···uestions
It could be used for penetration testing of wireless networks, for instance. Other than that, the developers aren't clear about what they hope to do with their plane. But as sUASNews puts it, getting the attention of aviation authorities will probably be one of the first outcomes. And flying over houses isn't within the rules. So while they made a nice little hobby plane with sniffing capabilities, it won't be allowed to fly anywhere NEAR where it could actually be used for that purpose.
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| | | |  Logan 5Enjoying the CataclysmPremium,MVM
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| Re: old news So... tell us how the FAA is gonna find out about this... Only way I can think of is if someone tattles on them to the FAA and tells the FAA exactly where to find the plane. | |
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kudos:4 | Re: old news said by Logan 5: So... tell us how the FAA is gonna find out about this... Only way I can think of is if someone tattles on them to the FAA and tells the FAA exactly where to find the plane. If a RC model airplane was flying over houses in my area, I would certainly call the FAA. If one crashed in to a roof with gasoline fuel onboard, it could start a fire. These RC model planes are supposed to be flown in wide open areas and not over houses. | |
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1 edit | Re: old news said by ThrowDemsOut:said by Logan 5: So... tell us how the FAA is gonna find out about this... Only way I can think of is if someone tattles on them to the FAA and tells the FAA exactly where to find the plane. If a RC model airplane was flying over houses in my area, I would certainly call the FAA. If one crashed in to a roof with gasoline fuel onboard, it could start a fire. These RC model planes are supposed to be flown in wide open areas and not over houses. Would you feel the same way if it were your next door neighbor's kids playing with an RC plane in their backyard and they accidentally allowed it to drift over in to your home's airspace?
EDIT: have you ever flown an RC airplane? they don't hold much fuel unless they've been modified.. | |
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kudos:4 | Re: old news said by Logan 5: Would you feel the same way if it were your next door neighbor's kids playing with an RC plane in their backyard and they accidentally allowed it to drift over in to your home's airspace? I'd go to their parents 1st. But if they blew me off, I would report them. | |
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| Re: old news said by ThrowDemsOut:said by Logan 5: Would you feel the same way if it were your next door neighbor's kids playing with an RC plane in their backyard and they accidentally allowed it to drift over in to your home's airspace? I'd go to their parents 1st. But if they blew me off, I would report them. I see. Thanks for the clarification. | |
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NYC Metro | said by Logan 5:said by ThrowDemsOut:said by Logan 5: So... tell us how the FAA is gonna find out about this... Only way I can think of is if someone tattles on them to the FAA and tells the FAA exactly where to find the plane. If a RC model airplane was flying over houses in my area, I would certainly call the FAA. If one crashed in to a roof with gasoline fuel onboard, it could start a fire. These RC model planes are supposed to be flown in wide open areas and not over houses. Would you feel the same way if it were your next door neighbor's kids playing with an RC plane in their backyard and they accidentally allowed it to drift over in to your home's airspace? EDIT: have you ever flown an RC airplane? they don't hold much fuel unless they've been modified.. Some bigger RC planes can hold plenty of fuel to start a fire... I used to fly them. Even the 'trainers' can hold 10oz of fuel if I remember correctly. I know they have planes with 20oz+ tanks.
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Midlothian, VA | I will get pulled for "flaming" probably. But speaking as one who dislikes big gov, I find it funny/ironic that you have no prob with going to big gov to report a model plane.
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Onion, NJ | said by ThrowDemsOut:[These RC model planes are supposed to be flown in wide open areas and not over houses. Its not a model plane.
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Queens Village, NY | See, there is a problem when people prefer putting the moniker of illegal on things, instead of following a preset set of rules.
Some of these people ask for a totalitarian role of government.
Make it illegal and hope that morons understand the scope of regulation.
So Europe!!!
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New York, NY | oldie yea, saw this a while back. cool concept tho, makes for a decent story on a slow news day | |
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|  NanoprobeCrunching in memory of MomPremium
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kudos:1 | Re: oldie Nothing some tin foil on your roof won't negate.  | |
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Onion, NJ | Re: Google... so does skyhook
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kudos:1 | Old News! I've seen this on at least two other sites (Consumerist being one) more than a week ago!
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| Re: Old News! said by Madness:I've seen this on at least two other sites (Consumerist being one) more than a week ago! So....? Is there an actual contribution to this story from you somewhere in your comment or are you just bored? | |
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| | | the entire "news" on this site has been like that for some time now. but becareful for saying that. Karl will take your comments off. | |
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| Re: Old News! Pardon me for posting my opinion. If they don't like it, they're free to remove it, but it doesn't change the fact that this "news" is old! :þ
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| Re: Old News! oh i know. and when mine are removed for the same thing i just keep reposting it. if it keeps getting removed as the first comment..i'll wait for about 5 or so comments and then repost. At times Karl needs to get a hobby instead of removing posts that just state the truth about his "reporting" of old news. especially when its days to weeks old. or claims to have been told by his "sources" and his sources are other news sites that are linked here for after hours news.
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Onion, NJ | Re: Old News! said by hottboiinnc:oh i know. and when mine are removed for the same thing i just keep reposting it. if it keeps getting removed as the first comment..i'll wait for about 5 or so comments and then repost. At times Karl needs to get a hobby instead of removing posts that just state the truth about his "reporting" of old news. especially when its days to weeks old. or claims to have been told by his "sources" and his sources are other news sites that are linked here for after hours news. I've never gotten modded for noticing old news.
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| bright idea, if used prior to 2001 in the age of hypersensitivity to airplanes going to skyscrapers, anything FLYING would send up a some warning flags to the local populus to at least call the police, who then call the faa or whatever & nab the individuals involved. since this is a multiple violation of law (yes, starting with town ordinances, they ARE laws) .. RC aircraft *MUST* be flying over an OPEN FIELD in an area designated for such activity (by most town,county, city ordinances). the type construction of the older rc craft were where they had GASOLINE which made them flying explosives-- nowadays they could be powered by electric, hydrogen or lots of other fuels. they are much safer, but still a danger to people, & property on the ground.
I think an airplane would be good for a quick recon mission, but if you want to hover... an air-balloon type craft would be much better. Esepcially if you wanted the craft to act as a repeater aimed to repeat the open router's signals to your location via directed signal.
This is all great theory.. and much higher risk than the lower hanging fruit of just utilizting the thousands of hotspots cable & telcos have for the taking once you hack someone's email account (or they graciously 'lend' you an extra email login). | |
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| Their plane is electric. Which makes it quieter. And if people are so concerned about the possibility of a crash, make sure your wifi is secured so you don't have one of these circling your home. It's not like they are flying this in heavily populated areas.
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Midlothian, VA | It's a joke Speaking as an economist, why the F would you spend all this time, energy, equipment to save a few beans on getting free internet?
Oh, I know. To be able to say you did it. The proverbial utils. | |
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| | FAA will have them for lunch Depending on where it is being flown it may well be illegal. The airspace over most city neighborhoods is controlled above a certain altitude and a lot of those times its controlled to the surface.
IF these guy were to fly it in one of these areas the FAA would absolutely be involved and they would have a field day with these guys.
Someone calling them in to the FAA is the least of their worries in this post 9/11 age, once that plane shows up on radar as a "primary target" with no communication and they realize that its not a flock of birds it will be tracked and the FAA and possibly the TSA and FBI notified.
Now, if they build it, install the proper equipment, have the proper inspections, get a tail number, get a waiver from the the FAA for the area they are flying in and carry the proper insurance.... There would be nothing anyone could do. | |
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Onion, NJ | Re: FAA will have them for lunch said by kfly :
Someone calling them in to the FAA is the least of their worries in this post 9/11 age, once that plane shows up on radar as a "primary target" with no communication and they realize that its not a flock of birds it will be tracked and the FAA and possibly the TSA and FBI notified.
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Michigan City, IN | Re: FAA will have them for lunch said by AVD:said by kfly :
Someone calling them in to the FAA is the least of their worries in this post 9/11 age, once that plane shows up on radar as a "primary target" with no communication and they realize that its not a flock of birds it will be tracked and the FAA and possibly the TSA and FBI notified.
Haha Yea I lol'd also..some people shouldn't be allowed to breed. | |
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