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| guess the list is for more then kiddie porn because otherwise why try and keep it a secret, rather then use it a trophy of "hey we blocked and know the domains known for trafficking this stuff, and will also try and take actions against the owners". -- [65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports | |
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  knightmb Everybody Lies
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| so how can they really prevent a list? I mean really? I type a site, it gets blocked, I write it down. I get another site that is blocked, write it down. Before long I have a list of the sites being blocked. How is this really secret information?  -- Fight NebuAD and the like: Click Here to pollute their data | |
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1 edit | Re: so how can they really prevent a list? um well when you cant view it OH well you move on to another secret site
the next guy however is deprived of said site can not know and thus is an ignorant
precisely what facists like.
Also as time goes on next move is banning you form all sites and you are only allowed to goto sites they approve
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| "I mean really? I type a site, it gets blocked, I write it down. I get another site that is blocked, write it down. Before long I have a list of the sites being blocked. How is this really secret information? "
Because every time you try to access a blocked site, your attempt to access it is recorded. Accumulate enough hits on the naughty list and it's reeducation for you! | |
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| How long? The Internet, being the mostly free medium that it is, will simply migrate the information to another site. So what if you can get Wikileaks.de shut down, how are you going to manage that in a country with less stringent censorship laws? It only takes one site that is not censored to render this entire discussion meaningless. | |
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| said by jacour :The Internet, being the mostly free medium that it is, will simply migrate the information to another site. So what if you can get Wikileaks.de shut down, how are you going to manage that in a country with less stringent censorship laws? It only takes one site that is not censored to render this entire discussion meaningless. Then time to make the Internet a National Intranet. | |
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  SSX4life Premium join:2004-02-13 | 1984 here we come And all I have to say is "who watches the watchers". And why should anyone have the right to remove the free speech of an individual or organization? | |
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join:2008-10-23 Baytown, TX | I think you may have just said a few Un-words have you read the latest Newspeak dictionary are you an agent of Emmanuel Goldstein?
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join:2005-12-22 Canonsburg, PA | More concerned about government action than wikileaks. The governments of the world are a far greater threat to individuals (especially when they secretly operate) than wikileaks could ever be. | |
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| Re: More concerned about government action than wikileaks. said by Sammer :The governments of the world are a far greater threat to individuals (especially when they secretly operate) than wikileaks could ever be. Not as much the governments themselves, but the governments as the executive arm of multinational corporations. -- 9-11 Missed. | |
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| secret ACTA "Anti-counterfiet bill"Any of you notice this bill being hashed out in secret for sometime now?
LOL, someone finally photocopied it and put it on wiki leaks
»wikileaks.se/leak/acta-drafts-2009.pdf
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join:2008-07-24 Hammond, IN | Re: secret ACTA "Anti-counterfiet bill" I knew about it for awhile now, it's funny that they are naming it "Anti-counterfeit"
when it's really about copyright enforcement.
Why are they trying to hide this? Why is it a secret? | |
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| Re: secret ACTA "Anti-counterfiet bill" said by Pv8man :I knew about it for awhile now, it's funny that they are naming it "Anti-counterfeit" when it's really about copyright enforcement. Why are they trying to hide this? Why is it a secret? I find this stuff out a little bit later than most. I am not online as often as others (I mainly netflix while online). Today, I am checking everywhere for updates only because I left work early due to being sick...I hate colds that make your throat swell... -- I will grammar police you. | |
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| UM your finding out about that now? UM its been going on for almost a year.
USA govt wants a counterfeiting bill to be national security and most of it is aimed at 1984 style thought control , creates new powers and effectively and covertly like hitler did removes citizen rights in favor of corporate entities that give the state more power regardless of what you or i do.
then they just bribe them er lobby them and guess what
NO USA REPUBLIC NO DEMOCRACY
michaelgesit.ca
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join:2008-06-03 Orangeville, ON 1 edit | Blocked? I cant reach the wiki link. | |
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| Re: Blocked? thanks 
Post from Micheal Geist blog by a user I really love it.
Maupassant said:
Clearly we'll need some international para-judicial force broadly authorized to search, seize, arrest, and investigate "intellectual property" crimes. I know-- we can call it the "General Enforcement Service for Trade And Profit Optimization." The acronym will no doubt become broadly recognized, and strike fear into the hearts of intellectual criminals everywhere. | |
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join:2008-05-27 | Re: ... It most likely pointed to their regular PRQ IP, 88.80.13.160 , just like wikileaks.org. | |
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| Re: ... said by dandin1 :It most likely pointed to their regular PRQ IP, 88.80.13.160 , just like wikileaks.org. Why doesn't Germany just blacklist the IP? Judge orders all the inter-country telecom providers to filter it on their core router firewalls. | |
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  acid343211 Hallo lisa Aus Amerika Premium join:2001-08-31 Byron, GA 2 edits | Blacklisted 30 of those Links they Blacklisted are known hacker/virus sites,we need more of this Blacklisting of bad sites. -- Visit- www.liveleak.com/view?i=e32_1231680425 | |
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| wow it's truly astounding how the german and australian people would put up with something like this, what's with them??. just to think a small group of people would dictate what people can visit on the internet would be allowed by the people is unthinkable!!!. can't the germans and australians think for themselves anymore??. do they really need a dictatorship?? this is not the only issue related to dictatorship, there have been many others!!.. | |
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| Re: wow said by uid1307457 :said by unthinkable :
it's truly astounding how the german and australian people would put up with something like this, what's with them??. just to think a small group of people would dictate what people can visit on the internet would be allowed by the people is unthinkable!!!. can't the germans and australians think for themselves anymore??. do they really need a dictatorship?? this is not the only issue related to dictatorship, there have been many others!!.. The Australian Communications and Media Authority (ACMA) told Australian journalists that they did not request the intervention of the German government. NO, how they put up with CENSORSHIP | |
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| said by uid1307457 :said by unthinkable :
it's truly astounding how the german and australian people would put up with something like this, what's with them??. just to think a small group of people would dictate what people can visit on the internet would be allowed by the people is unthinkable!!!. can't the germans and australians think for themselves anymore??. do they really need a dictatorship?? this is not the only issue related to dictatorship, there have been many others!!.. The Australian Communications and Media Authority (ACMA) told Australian journalists that they did not request the intervention of the German government. i WAS referring to the CENSORSHIP(FILTERING) the people ALLOWED the governments to do in the first place... | |
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| So....Germany Still Kicks In People's Doors For No Reason SIEG HEIL!
It seems the Gestapo never went away.
What in the hell did the guy who runs Wikileaks do to the German government? Nothing.
What German laws did he break?
None.
Yet they still raided his house.
That is lawsuit material.
It is good we have people like this guy around.
Freedom of Information is a good thing in this day and age, where the powers that be still try to censor everything, and still try to dictate what we think and how we feel.
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