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There is only one broadband provider (QTel) in the country of Qatar (home of Al Jazeera TV), and all Internet traffic is routed through one IP address in an effort to stifle free speech and block content. So when Wikipedia decided to ban that IP address for twelve hours to try and stop a flood of vandalism, a scuff up ensued over Wikipedia policy. Slashdot and Techcrunch quickly reported that Wikipedia had somehow intentionally blocked the whole country of Qatar, resulting in an Internet-wide, largely uninteresting digital hissy fit. Ultimately Wikipedia explained that an administrative error was to blame for the 12-hour ban; though the entire affair says more about the idiocy of Qatar trying to retain a strangle-hold on Internet traffic than anything else.

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How does routing all Internet traffic through one IP address "stifle free speech"?
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filtering....

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Re: Question

said by Psychephylax See Profile :

filtering....
Short and to the point.

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said by Bobcat See Profile :

How does routing all Internet traffic through one IP address "stifle free speech"?
When that one IP address gets IP-banned.
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So basically the entire country is behind one giant NAT router?
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More like one proxy server.

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said by Bobcat See Profile :

How does routing all Internet traffic through one IP address "stifle free speech"?
Ouch. Have you heard of content filtering?

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One IP?

I guess they don't download a lot from rapidshare.de

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What's Qatar doing on the internet anyway?

Just dig that oil for us.

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Much Ado About Nothing ?

So when Wikipedia decided to ban that IP address for twelve hours to try and stop a flood of vandalism, a scuff up ensued over Wikipedia policy. Slashdot and Techcrunch quickly reported that Wikipedia had somehow intentionally blocked the whole country of Qatar, resulting in an Internet-wide, largely uninteresting digital hissy fit.

edgy are we ?

its a beginning of a new year, lets take it easy

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Policy change: as easy as...

What's the IP?

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Re: Policy change: as easy as...

does anyone really care though .
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Amazing....

A country that stifiles free-speech complains about it.

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January 2nd, @08:57PM

Re: Amazing....

said by moonpuppy See Profile :

A country that stifiles free-speech complains about it.
They deserved what happened to them. Wikipedia shouldn't have take them off IP block until Qatar did something about the web site vandalism.
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January 2nd, @11:06PM

Re: Amazing....

said by TK Junk Mail See Profile :

said by moonpuppy See Profile :

A country that stifles free-speech complains about it.
They deserved what happened to them. Wikipedia shouldn't have take them off IP block until Qatar did something about the web site vandalism.
I agree, Wikipedia should have left the IP block in place until the place agreed to find the vandals and bring them to Justice(Do they have Jails or do they merely cut hands off?), Vandalism isn't free speech, But then the country needs to fix their internet structure so this won't happen again.

It sounds like friends/sympathisers of Osama bin laden are at fault.
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Wow! It took half the page for this to finally show up. If "those" countries don't like censorship, then why are they practising it religiously? Pun most definitely intended.
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Re: Amazing....

said by jarthur31 See Profile :

Wow! It took half the page for this to finally show up. If "those" countries don't like censorship, then why are they practising it religiously? Pun most definitely intended.
It's because they want to censor certain things.

"There is no God but Allah and Mohamed is his prophet."

That saying is the basic belief of Islam. Qatar is an islamic country and home of Al Jazeera TV. That station is about as one sided as it gets (on par with CNN America.) So for Qatar to claim censorship, it is only because "their" view is not the only view.
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FWIW

Here's the User discussion page and IP address.

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:82.148.97.69
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Trace route

Well gee you could Google U of Qatar, which lists its URL. Then you can trace the route to the URL and find an IP of 80.231.135.132 which may or may not actually be in Qatar. If it is not in Qatar that should tell you something too.

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So What?

So Wiki banned an ip address because of suspected vandalism. How were they to know it encompasses ALL of qatar...

just more PC garbage. if qatar ran their junk like normal people do, there wouldnt be this problem. f'em.

just my 2c of course lol

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Re: So What?

Thats the way I see it too, I imagine most admins in the free world when they decide to block an IP for whatever reason dont stop first and think weather or not the IP belongs to an entire country.

Its something Qatar should expect to happen every now and then for having their connection setup in such a way.

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This was a fun read.

Thank you posting this funny story.

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A More Fundamental Question

Why does Qatar believe that they are entitled to unfettered access to Wikipedia, or any other website outside their country for that matter?

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Re: A More Fundamental Question

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Why does Qatar believe that they are entitled to unfettered access to Wikipedia, or any other website outside their country for that matter?

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Its Wikipedia's policy that entitles them to it.
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One IP address?

Does the country have one web site as well?

I'm sure that they have a few more that one IP address.
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