  Lone WolfIndependent Voter, Buy Gold and GunsPremium
join:2001-12-30
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| I'm Guilty Too I remove nasty comments from my website's comments and guestbook although it rarely occurs.
It's our right to do so. I may read the comment and address a problem if warranted but I won't leave nasty messages up on the site. It's my business and I paid for the rights. So did WildBlue. Think of it as not as harsh as banning a member of a site for violation of Terms of Service.
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 | | | Re: I'm Guilty Too Karl and the other "mods" do the same on here as well. Karl just doesn't like when its called out. | |
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| | | | Re: I'm Guilty Too The mods here filter trolls, spam and jackasses, but I've not seen them ever filter a URL because it contained legitimate criticism. Unless you can direct me to such an event? | |
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| | | | | Re: I'm Guilty Too it does happen. they do filter and do ask you do NOT post links to other sites. And as far as spamming? LMAO! Funny! They allow that along with illegal links to copyright material. | |
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| | | | | | Re: I'm Guilty Too they do filter and do ask you do NOT post links to other sites | |
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| | | | rradina
join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO | It thought that if the destination site complains, they might have to remove the links. I don't recall but I seem to remember some sites getting bent when other sites link to them. | |
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| | | | | There you go. I've got many more. | |
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| | | | TheGhostPremium
join:2003-01-03
Lake Forest, IL | Re: I'm Guilty Too Well, this quote is just like the quote you are quoting - were you being relevant to the conversation, or just argumentative? | |
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| | | | | | | Re: I'm Guilty Too I was pointing out that DSLR was being critical of the very thing they were editorializing. Apparently that's a no no around here.
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| | | | | | | Well they nuked another thread this morning. This was in response to the story where a Comcast tech saved a person's life. Karl lead with every evil thing that Comcast and then talked about the tech saving the person's life.
Apparently pointing out that Even when good is done by Comcast DSLR has to play up the negative is not allowed and the thread was nuked.
Really guys, if you are going to attack someone else, like Wild Blue, for doing THE VERY EXACT THING YOU DO either DO NOT DO IT YOUR SELF or DO NOT REPORT ON IT!
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| | | | BiggA
join:2005-11-23
EARTH | Exactly. | |
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| | | and that's why i won't ever use ur garbag buisness | |
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join:2005-11-23
EARTH | Karl makes it look like they are filtering websites on their service, then you read and they are filtering forum posts, which is pretty typical, and has happened on this site as well, so boo hoo, NBD here. | |
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| | | | Re: I'm Guilty Too That's what I thought too, my initial read of Karl's summary had me believing that they had a blocklist like the Chinese and other totalitarian countries. | |
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| | Misleading title... Wildblue is not censoring access to critical websites, but merely disallowing links posted in Wildblue's own forum. Seems like a non-story to me.
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| | | Re: Misleading title... Always around here. That's how Karl gets the stats he needs to keep raking in that $$$$ from Google and the mass number of companies they extort. | |
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| | | | | Re: Misleading title... again; blogs are NOT articles. they're blogs. And I have sent things into Karl- nothing is posted. He only posts for those who he likes. That has been known on here for a very long time. | |
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| | | | DampierPhillip M Dampier
join:2003-03-23
Rochester, NY | Re: Misleading title... said by 25139889:again; blogs are NOT articles. they're blogs. And I have sent things into Karl- nothing is posted. He only posts for those who he likes. That has been known on here for a very long time.
Hey, if you want to write a guest article, even if it disagrees with everything I say, I'll publish it on Stop the Cap!, even if it is "counter-productive." You can PM me here or use the contact link on my site.
I don't think Karl or I are afraid of "the other side." I recall great controversy when the site owner here put up an editorial favoring data caps. It was as popular as a skunk at a wedding, but it got published.
I always allow contrary views, as Karl obviously does as well. I personally draw the line at personal attacks.
A good debate airs all sides and allows readers to make up their own minds.
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| | | | | | | Re: Misleading title... I can greatly respect this sentiment. | |
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| |  The LimitPremium
join:2007-09-25
Greensboro, NC
kudos:2 | If you don't like this site, then why are you still here? | |
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| | | | | Re: Misleading title... because i can be. and i didn't say i didn't like the site. I don't like the guy that think's he owns it and extorts money from companies he does not like. After all you really think that ATT, or VZ or even Comcast host those "help groups" on here for free? | |
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| | | | | | Re: Misleading title... You do see the irony in someone like you, claiming the website somehow "extorts" companies and other crazy nonsense, still being able to post while you complain about censorship? | |
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| | | | |  Camelot OnePremium,MVM
join:2001-11-21
Greenwood, IN
kudos:1 | Re: Misleading title... said by Mojo 17 :You do see the irony in someone like you, claiming the website somehow "extorts" companies and other crazy nonsense, still being able to post while you complain about censorship? His comments serve to prove the point that sometimes trolls register for accounts. | |
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| | | |  ptrowskiGot Helix?Premium
join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
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| said by 25139889:because i can be. and i didn't say i didn't like the site. I don't like the guy that think's he owns it and extorts money from companies he does not like. After all you really think that ATT, or VZ or even Comcast host those "help groups" on here for free?
Who cares if the companies pay? It costs you nothing now does it. The site makes money, wow! Feel free to become a premium member..
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| | | | You realize your comment makes absolutely no sense, right? | |
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| | | | | Re: Misleading title... it actually did. Sorry if you don't understand. | |
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| | | | | | Re: Misleading title... it actually did. Sorry if you don't understand. | |
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| | | | said by 25139889:Always around here. That's how Karl gets the stats he needs to keep raking in that $$$$ from Google and the mass number of companies they extort.
And who is extorting what? Do you read what you post? | |
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| | ptrowskiGot Helix?Premium
join:2005-03-14
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kudos:4 Reviews:
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| said by 25139889:Always around here. That's how Karl gets the stats he needs to keep raking in that $$$$ from Google and the mass number of companies they extort.
Novel idea here I know, but don't like the site? Don't visit. I am already a bit tired of your whining about how bad this place is but here you are coming up on almost a year of membership. Is this place perfect? Nope. But Karl and the gang do the best that they can and it shows.
Feel free to create a competing site and let us know the URL so we can check it out.
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| axus
join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC | I didn't find it misleading, but I imagine others could. A sentence in the article clarifying this would be nice. | |
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| | nothing nasty This isn't about censoring "nasty" comments. They are censoring many civil conversations about several topics, truthful reviews about their service, general discussion or speculation of their competition, etc. The users are having problems with this because it is occurring in the "General Chit Chat" section where "Anything goes here (so long as it's acceptable for general audiences)" or the "Tech Chat: WildBlue and beyond!" where "Have a question about computers, routers, wireless networking or something else that isn't specifically about WildBlue service or equipment? Interact with other WildBlue customers and you may soon have the answer!". Whole threads have been deleted, CIVIL threads with general discussion, no name calling or fighting or bad mouthing Viasat, etc.. Sure they can do what they want, but why have sections on their forum labeled the above, if certain topics that are kept civil, are not allowed? At least state they are not allowed. | |
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| | | Re: nothing nasty Yes, apparently WildBlue believes that if they ban linking to critical websites, nobody will discover the "secret" that their service just isn't very good. Bunch of geniuses over there! | |
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| | | | Re: nothing nasty If you are going to just rely on what is said on Wild Blue's website then you deserve what you get.
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| | | | Well WB has plenty to hide seeing as how they absolutely suck and have horrible customer service. I've been faped twice in the last 2 months even though i never actually wen't over 100 percent either time, but hey whats a number amongst friends. | |
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| | Wildblue Forum The title is a little misleading. But Viasat does "scrub" messages off their community forum (and has done this off their Exede Facebook page) if you talk about the competition.
Try posting a topic about Hughesnet Gen4 in the "General Chit Chat" or "Tech and Beyond" section and see how long it stays. I would suggest posting it on a Friday after the main moderator is off work for the weekend. You actually might get a good discussion going before the topic "disappears".
It is also interesting how they state how "tolerant" they are with respect to posting on their board. They do allow critical posts with respect to their service. But mention Hughesnet...that's a no-no. | |
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| | | Re: Wildblue Forum which i'm sure has been done for YEARS and other ISPs do this as well. This is nothing new and only Karl and his buddy Philip to get a rise out of people. | |
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| | | | Re: Wildblue Forum said by 25139889:which i'm sure has been done for YEARS and other ISPs do this as well. This is nothing new and only Karl and his buddy Philip to get a rise out of people.
In your eagerness to defend you're tripping over your mental tongue. Care to try again? | |
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| DampierPhillip M Dampier
join:2003-03-23
Rochester, NY | said by OldSatUser:The title is a little misleading. But Viasat does "scrub" messages off their community forum (and has done this off their Exede Facebook page) if you talk about the competition.
Try posting a topic about Hughesnet Gen4 in the "General Chit Chat" or "Tech and Beyond" section and see how long it stays. I would suggest posting it on a Friday after the main moderator is off work for the weekend. You actually might get a good discussion going before the topic "disappears".
It is also interesting how they state how "tolerant" they are with respect to posting on their board. They do allow critical posts with respect to their service. But mention Hughesnet...that's a no-no.
Nobody was mentioning HughesNet in the thread where the company yanked away the link. They didn't like the fact the subject matter was usage caps and their fair access policy.
Remember, the reason given was the link was "counter-productive." Not off topic, profane, promoting a competitor, etc.
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| | One Reason This is one of the reasons I refuse to join Wildblue World. Wildblue/Exede drew the posters away from this site and Wildblue.cc to control the information their current and potential customers could see. Now, when it is in their financial interest, they are clamping down on negative information. Stay away from forums that are hosted and moderated by the corporation you are discussing because they have conflicts of interest.
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join:2009-11-15
Indianapolis, IN Reviews:
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| forum They own the forum they can do as they please, I own 3 current forums and if I decide I do not want somebody with the name "joe" posting there or links leading to joes off site, site, then I am well within my rights to not allow it, also the ones on my forum who claim "freedom of speech" get instant banned for life, no time to deal with those that think they are above everybody else and there "rights" have been violated. tough shit as I tell them they can go play someplace else. I have a forum(s) to run. | |
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| | rradina
join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO | Re: forum What if the forum turns into a free-for-all where every discussion degenerates into faulting former President Bush and partisan politics?
Check out nbcnews (used to be msnbcnews). Click on a few articles and follow the reader comments below each article. Readers believe they are experts on everything and more often than not, it immediately turns into the "libtards" vs. the "right wing nut jobs". It's also common for the two sides of religion to yank chains. | |
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join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO | Re: forum I'm not taking sides. My comment was an example. | |
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| | So... ...they're blaming Celestialstorm for the deletion then. Perhaps they would also do that for every other thread or post that was deleted. Some people here seem to be confused, quoting trollish comments that were deleted on this site to the non-trollish comments/threads that were deleted over there. They have deleted general conversations. Hughesnet as an example, people were saying what they liked about Hughesnet (download zone), what they didn't like (daily instead of monthly cap), and expressed a ~wish that Viasat could do better (which they could, wouldn't take much). That thread was civil, barring one or two posters which many threads have, and they were handled. If I owned a business, and had a "general" section on my forum (or a "sound off-vent here") and the customers were being reasonable (not trollish in general) I would take this as customer feedback. I would try to offer a better product than the competition. If I didn't, I would know this, and wouldn't mind if someone chose the competitor if it better suited their needs. | |
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| | Subpar? I'm not supporting censorship by any means, but who's to say what's "subpar" if people knowingly enter into a contract with an ISP known for shoddy service?
And I'm an AT&T subscriber, so I know what I'm talking about here. | |
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