WildBlue Users: Exede Is Not What You Promised Us Faster Speeds Come With Higher Prices, Lower Caps The other day we noted that while ViaSat heavily hyped their new "Exede" satellite broadband service at CES, now that the service has supposedly launched, many users note they can't actually get it yet. Existing users who have been waiting for this upgrade for years are being told they have to wait in line behind new users. Depending on where you live, you may never be able to sign up for the service. Worse perhaps, many of these users note that the new service actually comes with lower daily usage restrictions (dubbed the "fair access policy" or FAP) than WildBlue's existing service. One user in our forums puts his disappointment rather eloquently: We have been living with low caps on Wildblue for years, then for several years they promise an upgrade that will change everything. Then they up the speed to something most people don't need, and REDUCE the amount of data available by a large amount, increasing the price as well significantly. It was not what we were lead to believe. This was supposed to be an upgrade, but the speed is useless without quantity, that point has been made over and over. And it doesn't take someone sitting all day to go over the caps. It can take a little over an hour every day for one person to go over on the current 512Kbps plan, imagine with more speed how easy the person can go over with about 23% less data available. Bottom line, it was not an upgrade, period, for many of us. Every neighbor I know is thinking the same thing, some currently drive 30 miles one way to get to a free hotspot to have enough bandwidth for online classes. The offered new plans are not enough for what they do either. Is anyone that understands the limits of satellite asking for anything unreasonable? NO. The frustration is understandable, given that ever since ViaSat began building their new satellite in 2008, they promised users that this would be an evolution in satellite broadband. As we had warned however, the high cost of satellite launches meant that acquiring new users was going to be a priority, and that improvement of existing usage restrictions would be on the back burner. The only hope that many of these captive customers have is that LTE service from one of the major players (which suffers from similar caps) makes it way into their market.
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 zed261Premium join:2011-11-11 Cleveland, TN | lte would solve ppls price and latency issues atleast to some degree | |
|  |  BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | Re: lte would solve ppls price said by zed261:and latency issues atleast to some degree caps and overerages are even shittier. | |
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 BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | Nonsense "As we had warned however, the high cost of satellite launches meant that acquiring new users was going to be a priority, and that improvement of existing usage restrictions would be on the back burner"
If your service sucks there will be no new customers to be gained. I'm not sure which part of that Wildblue doesn't quite get yet. | |
|  |  NWOhio join:2011-10-25 Toledo, OH | Re: Nonsense regardless if the service sucks they WILL GAIN those new customers. they have a HUGE waiting list for people to get on. Those people will sign up with no problems and WildBlue/ViaSat will be on their way. Most of the nations co-op telephone/internet companies depend on Blue for Internet to their customers, so they will have the customers.
Hell, even T resells them. | |
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| Re: Nonsense said by NWOhio:... Hell, even T resells them. T? T-mobile? Ice T? Mr T? -- Oh, no, not clown shoes. They mean I'm in for some mighty bad news. | |
|  |  |  |  NWOhio join:2011-10-25 Toledo, OH | Re: Nonsense T is ATT their stock symbol. T-Mobile is TMO-USA.  | |
|  |  |  |  |  ThalerPremium join:2004-02-02 Los Angeles, CA kudos:3 | Re: Nonsense Yes, but more importantly, what are Ice T and Mr T's stock market symbols?  | |
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 |  |  BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | said by NWOhio:regardless if the service sucks they WILL GAIN those new customers. they have a HUGE waiting list for people to get on. Those people will sign up with no problems Then discover the suckage that WB is and not renew their contract. new custoer wil be hard to find when their bad reptutation gets confirmed over and over again.
There is an old saying in business "It's harder to get new customers than to keep old ones" The meaning is WB should try keeping their CURRENT customers happy. WB has little to no busness sense. | |
|  |  |  |  NWOhio join:2011-10-25 Toledo, OH | Re: Nonsense And who are these people going to go to for Internet when they can't get anything? They'll be right back to Wild Blue. And WB knows it | |
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| Re: Nonsense said by NWOhio:And who are these people going to go to for Internet when they can't get anything? They'll be right back to Wild Blue. And WB knows it Hughesnet is launching Jupiter soon. Unless they try to pull the same BS I got a feeling they are not going to have any trouble pulling Wildblue's customers over to that bird. -- Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit / Core i5 - 760 / GTX 460 1GB SLI / 8GB DDR3 RAM / Vertex 2 120GB SSD | |
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 |  |  |  |  BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | said by NWOhio:And who are these people going to go to for Internet when they can't get anything? They'll be right back to Wild Blue. And WB knows it They'll be like friends I have that live in areas where cable and DSL are not available. They'll do without. They aren't stupid enough to piss money away on crap. | |
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| Faster Usage, Lower Caps. As I've wrote before, what's the use of having a faster speed (12mbps), and lower caps?
Take the new 12mbps service, at the glorious new price of $139 ($129 + 10 lease fee), you'll get 25GB of data.
If you want more, its $8 per 1GB extra.
That can get kinda pricey.
Actually, its no worse than Verizon and AT&T. Verizon introducing FAST LTE, and just lowered its caps, no more unlimited. AT&T upgrading to HSPA+ and LTE, has always had lower caps.
Why bother wish faster speeds if you aren't going to increase the usage caps? You'll only suck up usage faster with faster speeds.
I believe satellite operators are just going to see how much money they can milk out of customers... | |
|  |  | | Re: Faster Usage, Lower Caps. Why bother? Because it makes for great advertising. You can bet that the promised speed will be splashed in huge type across their ads, and the caps will be mentioned, if at all, in the smallest point size they can use.
"Oh, you don't like our caps? Well, we clearly referenced them in our terms of use, which you acknowledged that you read by checking this box before you signed your contract. Sorry." | |
|  |  |  | | Re: Faster Usage, Lower Caps. said by ISurfTooMuch:Why bother? Because it makes for great advertising. You can bet that the promised speed will be splashed in huge type across their ads, and the caps will be mentioned, if at all, in the smallest point size they can use. That's exactly right. I got a flashy postcard ad in the mail saying "5 mg AVAILABLE" (that's all in my area). Unless I'm blind, no mention of caps or pricing. It's from a retailer, they also mention Directv and Dish Network in addition to Wildblue and possible savings by bundling. | |
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 |  | | I just got the new Exede yesterday, after using the old service for several years. It is way faster, and even the latency is improved. However, where the 7.5 data plan used to carry me for a month, I am now at 15% usage, and it has only been 2 DAYS!! And I am doing the same stuff I always do. There is no way you can use this for streaming video, etc. Too bad, because the speed really rocks now. | |
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 micwa join:2009-01-13 Seminary, MS | You can upgrade now.. There are not enough installers to upgrade all the users at one time. If you want to upgrade, you can call your local dealer and see if they are upgrading right now.
This is directly from Wildblue: »wildblueworld.com/forum/showpost···count=27 | |
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I had Clearwire and it was slower than snot. I ended up switching back to Comcast. Clearwire may have been shitty but this new. WildBlue service is shitter than shit | |
|  |  micwa join:2009-01-13 Seminary, MS | Re: Shitty service If you have access to cable, why would you choose Clearwire or satellite internet? LOL | |
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| Re: Shitty service I was paying $70 a month for 7Mbps/768Kbps at the time.
I switched to Clearwire 3G 2Mbps/256Kbps to save money. It did everything I needed it to do. I was able to download files and so forth at over 1.5Mbps to 2Mbps. I was able to stream videos at the speed of light. I was even centered in the middle of the 3G coverage area. I got 5 bars of signal 24/7.
Then Clearwire switch to Clear 4G 10Mbps/1Mbps.
After the switch from 3G to 4G it put me on the edge of there 4G coverage. I was still in the coverage area but the house next to me on the left was out of the coverage area. Got so shitty at that point that downloading a file would top out at 7Kbps to 30Kbps at max. Watching an online movie was a nightmare because it would time out trying to load. I was only getting 0 to 1 bar of signal at max.
I dumped Clear and switch back to Comcast. I am paying $30 a month for 15Mbps but am topping out at 22Mbps. | |
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 | | Satellite sucks period. Satellite is just not a option! ping time versus low caps versus cost! Its like having the best 3g with no response time! Rural customers will never get what they deserve. The broadband dont care only worry about profit. I KNOW im less then 50 feet from a cable line and they want to charge me twenty thousand dollars to give me service!!!!!!!! WTF? | |
|  | | Great Customer Service! Ha
We have orderd Exede twice now, and they have lost our order both times after giving us a confirmation number. They even gave us an install date and never showed up. I took of off work to be here and no one showed up. Called again, and they had no record of the order once again, but each time took credit card info. Poor customer service sinks even the greatest of companies...... | |
|  |  | | Re: Great Customer Service! Ha ccwoody, I'm with ViaSat, the provider of Exede and WildBlue service, and just saw this. I'm sorry you had a difficult time getting your service set up. We'd like to try and help you and make everything right. I tried to send you a PM here, but was unable to. Can you please send us an email with your name and the phone number associated with your previous Exede orders to: exedelistens@viasat.com Thank you. | |
|  |  |  | | Re: Great Customer Service! Ha chrischarity@wildblue.net | |
|  |  |  |  | | Re: Great Customer Service! Ha Just happen to see this blog. All of you who are complaining need to be educated a little. ViaSat has tried to offer a reasonable way for those who primarily only have dial-up internet service. Anyone who has ever had dial-up knows how painfully slow and impossible it is to use it on the internet. WildBlue or Exede were created to give those rural people an option. Nothing is perfect and this may not fit all who look at it. It costs a lot of money to put a service like this up and be price competitive. There are limits to what you usage can be. The same has always held true to the wireless providers data services. Theirs is still lower than ViaSat's FAP. No you can't do gaming and no you can't watch movies all day on it. And if you have a half a dozen computers you had probably set up a limit on what the users can do. If you are interested in ViaSat's service call a local retailer/installer and order it instead of the main number. You should get more personal customer service there. If not, report them to ViaSat and try another local retailer if there is a choice. | |
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