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7-square-mile network at the end of a long road...
(old news - 10:01AM Friday May 11 2007)
tags: Fiber · business · wireless · alternatives · municipal
Back in 2003, a Wilkes Barre, Pennsylvania, businessman wanted to use the city's old steam ducts to run fiber, and as far as we can tell, he's still trying. In 2004, the city began planning a seven-square-mile Wi-Fi network, but had to navigate a Pennsylvania law lobbied for by Verizon that stifled muni-deployment. In 2006, the city struck a Wi-Fi deal, but then pulled out of it for its own financial protection. It's 2007 and the city has chosen Frontier Communications to deploy the network, which the city says will finally be completed by the end of 2007.

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phxmark
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Verizon...

...it appears wants to control the world. How long before they lobby for a law that outlaws personal wireless access points and force you to pay for and use a Verizon wireless access plan?
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The end of 2007

That seems like a pretty aggressive time frame.

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Brilliant!

I grew up in Wilkes-Barre and the place is a stagnant wasteland. I seriously doubt this will improve anything. But kudos to them for trying.

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Re: Brilliant!

said by holocron See Profile :

I grew up in Wilkes-Barre and the place is a stagnant wasteland. I seriously doubt this will improve anything. But kudos to them for trying.
Stagnant waste land, that's being way to nice. It's a open cesspool of low income people, elderly,moron cops, criminals who rule the streets and a very corrupt courthouse.

I live within the seven mile distance to pick up the WIFI signal but I am not interested.

Tom Greco is still dreaming about putting fiber optics in the old steam pipes that run underneath the streets of Wilkes Barre. What are they going to do next, give every drug dealer a laptop so they can buy and sell drugs on public square.
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Re: Brilliant!

said by antiphishing See Profile :

Tom Greco is still dreaming about putting fiber optics in the old steam pipes that run underneath the streets of Wilkes Barre. What are they going to do next, give every drug dealer a laptop so they can buy and sell drugs on public square.
If I had a dollar nickel for every scheme Tom Greco has come up with, I'd be a rich man.

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May 11th, @12:57PM

Re: Brilliant!

said by holocron See Profile :

said by antiphishing See Profile :

Tom Greco is still dreaming about putting fiber optics in the old steam pipes that run underneath the streets of Wilkes Barre. What are they going to do next, give every drug dealer a laptop so they can buy and sell drugs on public square.
If I had a dollar nickel for every scheme Tom Greco has come up with, I'd be a rich man.
Like his 'train motel' between Pennsylvania Ave and Wilkes Barre Blvd

Hello, lets stay overnight in a train car that suppose to be a motel.

I said it before and I will say it again, this wireless network is only going to benefit Wilkes Univeristy and King College.

Yipper, I'm going down to the local beer garden,to get a 'bottla' of beer to take down to the crick.
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said by antiphishing See Profile :

said by holocron See Profile :

I grew up in Wilkes-Barre and the place is a stagnant wasteland. I seriously doubt this will improve anything. But kudos to them for trying.
Stagnant waste land, that's being way to nice. It's a open cesspool of low income people, elderly,moron cops, criminals who rule the streets and a very corrupt courthouse.

I live within the seven mile distance to pick up the WIFI signal but I am not interested.

Tom Greco is still dreaming about putting fiber optics in the old steam pipes that run underneath the streets of Wilkes Barre. What are they going to do next, give every drug dealer a laptop so they can buy and sell drugs on public square.
Hey, I take offense to that. I live in Wilkes-Barre and I'm not low income, elderly or a moron cop. How come I don't get a group to fit into?

=)

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Re: Brilliant!

said by xlimitx See Profile :

said by antiphishing See Profile :

said by holocron See Profile :

I grew up in Wilkes-Barre and the place is a stagnant wasteland. I seriously doubt this will improve anything. But kudos to them for trying.
Stagnant waste land, that's being way to nice. It's a open cesspool of low income people, elderly,moron cops, criminals who rule the streets and a very corrupt courthouse.

I live within the seven mile distance to pick up the WIFI signal but I am not interested.

Tom Greco is still dreaming about putting fiber optics in the old steam pipes that run underneath the streets of Wilkes Barre. What are they going to do next, give every drug dealer a laptop so they can buy and sell drugs on public square.
Hey, I take offense to that. I live in Wilkes-Barre and I'm not low income, elderly or a moron cop. How come I don't get a group to fit into?

=)
Your a exception to the rule I guess. I live in the Mayflower section, far away from the crime ridden streets of the down town area.

I moved into this area from Connecticut and went through a time warp of about ten to fifteen years.

I hate the CommonWealth of Pennsylvania and plan on moving out of this backwards state by the end of the year.
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said by antiphishing See Profile :

Stagnant waste land, that's being way to nice. It's a open cesspool of low income people, elderly,moron cops, criminals who rule the streets and a very corrupt courthouse.

That describes the entire state outside of Philly and Pitt.
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Re: Brilliant!

said by major marco See Profile :

That describes the entire state outside of Philly and Pitt.
WOW....way to stereotype.

Where I live is actually very nice.

We don't lock our doors at night, and have no reason too

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May 11th, @08:38PM

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said by dodgetech2 See Profile :

WOW....way to stereotype.

Where I live is actually very nice.

We don't lock our doors at night, and have no reason too
I don't have to stereotype. I lived it. I'm originally from Pennsyltucky. And I can tell you that everything north of Philly and east of Pitt may as well be Alabama. BTW, the condition of where you live is irrelevant. It could be paradise, but you couldn't pay me to return to PA. Your state government is run by a bunch of illiterate dumbasses who still think the year is 1940 and your fellow citizens are just as dumb because they keep putting the same illiterate dumbasses back into office.
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Re: Brilliant!

said by major marco See Profile :

Your state government is run by a bunch of illiterate dumbasses who still think the year is 1940 and your fellow citizens are just as dumb because they keep putting the same illiterate dumbasses back into office.
Apparently its no different than your state government and fellow citizens. All government is corrupt from top to bottom.

Speaking of illiterate, all your family members or relatives remaining in PA are just as illiterate as the next person no exceptions.

That a boy sport, nice inflated ego you show in an attempt to insult 3 states. Hey ass-hat, since your out of PA, stay the frog out of PA. I hope you never come back, Liberals need not apply.

BTW: Learn how to spell dumb asses correctly, it makes your post appear as if your a dumb ass by misspelling the name you're attempting to label others.
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said by major marco See Profile :

said by dodgetech2 See Profile :

WOW....way to stereotype.

Where I live is actually very nice.

We don't lock our doors at night, and have no reason too
BTW, the condition of where you live is irrelevant. It could be paradise, but you couldn't pay me to return to PA.
Its only irrelevant to you..not me.
let me know where to send the check, so you DON'T come back.

I moved here to get away from condescending ###holes.

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Bah, when will American's learn.

It's CHEQUE not check . Always wonder why you guess keep wanting to do all these positive affirmation marks everywhere.
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said by major marco See Profile :

said by antiphishing See Profile :

Stagnant waste land, that's being way to nice. It's a open cesspool of low income people, elderly,moron cops, criminals who rule the streets and a very corrupt courthouse.

That describes the entire state outside of Philly and Pitt.
I see you have not been to Philly or Pittsburgh lately. That description easily applies to every city of every state.

I doubt this will benefit Wilkes or kings college. Its an excuse to implement "safety precautions" by using wireless cameras to spy on John Q Public.
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said by antiphishing See Profile :

said by holocron See Profile :

I grew up in Wilkes-Barre and the place is a stagnant wasteland. I seriously doubt this will improve anything. But kudos to them for trying.
Stagnant waste land, that's being way to nice. It's a open cesspool of low income people, elderly,moron cops, criminals who rule the streets and a very corrupt courthouse.
It's not that bad. I lived there after college. It's safer than Allentown, has more of a community feel than the Lehigh Valley, more opportunity than areas like Hazleton and Williamsport, and doesn't have the traffic problems of Stroudsburg. Sure, Public Square has some goofy people walking around while the buses are running, but it's still better than Scranton, Hazleton or Reading.
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Re: Brilliant!

Yeah, that Stroudsburg traffic is a bitch -- I think all the Sunday political talk shows are going to lead with that story this weekend...
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As one born in Wilkes-Barre and raised in Kingston who has since lived all over North America, I can state that it was a good place to grow up (in the 50's and 60's when the dress factories were humming away).
Now, as I return to visit, I see a depressed, run down area in the rust belt with few jobs (unless you are in the medical community)and a failing infrastructure.
That said, anything that the current residents can do to "awaken" the community, such as free wi-fi in the downtown area, can only be a positive for the community.

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said by antiphishing See Profile :

said by holocron See Profile :

I grew up in Wilkes-Barre and the place is a stagnant wasteland. I seriously doubt this will improve anything. But kudos to them for trying.
Stagnant waste land, that's being way to nice. It's a open cesspool of low income people, elderly,moron cops, criminals who rule the streets and a very corrupt courthouse.
I'm from England and have relatives in and around Wilkes Barre, Nanticoke, Hunlock Creek. I've been to far worse places in both Europe and the US. YMMV of course.

Kind regards

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said by antiphishing See Profile :

said by holocron See Profile :

I grew up in Wilkes-Barre and the place is a stagnant wasteland. I seriously doubt this will improve anything. But kudos to them for trying.
Stagnant waste land, that's being way to nice. It's a open cesspool of low income people, elderly,moron cops, criminals who rule the streets and a very corrupt courthouse.
I'm from England and have relatives in and around Wilkes Barre, Nanticoke, Hunlock Creek. I've been to far worse places in both Europe and the US. YMMV of course.

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Don't miss the forrest for all the trees...

There is more going on here than meets the eye.

The winner of the bid for the WI-FI Free Wilkes Barre is none other than Frontier Communications. In case you have forgotten, Frontier (aka Citizens Communications) just bought out Commonwealth Telephone (CTCO), THE PHONE COMPANY (ILEC) in Wilkes Barre!!! This is the equivalent of Verizon deploying municipal WI-FI in Scranton where they are the ILEC.

This explains many things about the bid including why Wilkes Barre only needed 10 days from the time of the bid announcement until the bid was awarded. Anyone smell a deal that was cooked and a foregone conclusion before the IFP was even announced?
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still no dsl love in 2007?

Frankly I'm shocked (NOT!!) that Wilkes Barre, Pa can't even get some DSL love from Verizon.. much less to say FIOS!

/sarcasm abound!
So much for [$$$ HOW MUCH WAS IT $$$ ??? ] in tax incentives.

Time to get Jack Horkheimer to shove a LARGE telescope up Verizon's ASS and see where the tax incentives went in Verizon's large war-chest of finances and why they haven't deployed more FIOS in their Pennsylvania footprint!
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