 | | Will Canada Pass Network Neutrality Rules Too? Are you kidding me? Ask any Canadian and the response will be 100 percent certain absolutely NO!. | |
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 |  mlernerPremium join:2000-11-25 Nepean, ON kudos:5 | Re: Will Canada Pass Network Neutrality Rules Too? The CRTC already said they will be releasing guidelines for the NN hearings, no rulings or policies. | |
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 bohn join:2006-05-30 Scarborough, ON | I'm quite certain most people responding will face reality and answer a resounding no. Yes, it's sad but nothing will change until these monopolies and oligopolies are broken up. | |
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| Re: Will Canada Pass Network Neutrality Rules Too? said by bohn:I'm quite certain most people responding will face reality and answer a resounding no. Yes, it's sad but nothing will change until these monopolies and oligopolies are broken up. Unfortunately, I have to agree... | |
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 1 edit | Karl, if you did a bit of research, you'd note that 2 of 13 commissioners have telecom/cable work experience, with 1 person spending 2 decades at Rogers/Bell and the other coming from Saktel, a telco owned by and for the people of Saskatchewan.
What the CRTC has done will hurt consumers as it changes the price plans and heaver users will be gouged, so that was wrong. But blaming it on the CRTC being stocked with former Bell/Rogers execs is silly, there's only 1 of 13!
EDIT: these types of sensational accusation are all the same... Obama birthers and corporate conspiracy theorists have a lot in common. | |
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| Re: Fact checking Regardless of the number of ex execs, the CRTC has made some glaring blunders recently.
1. Allowing the throttling of wholesale customers. Those customers are purchasing a layer 2 circuit to the end user but are treated as white label resellers. 2. Telling Bell to make higher speeds available to 3rd parties and then letting Bell turn it around into a "no we won't and by the way we're implementing UBB for wholesalers on top of throttling"
These types of decisions scream gross incompetence or totally corrupt. You pick. | |
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 |  |  | | Re: Fact checking They suck at delivering their product, true. Their decisions aren't based on being best for the consumer and they protect Canadian businesses by preventing foreign competition.
I just think it's silly to say "this is happening because they're all ex telco execs". It's trying to de-legitimatize the CRTC based on a false accusation. It's just as insane and irrelevant as the accusations that Obama isn't American or that his programs are disguised reparations. It's useless slander. | |
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 |  |  |  | | Re: Fact checking False accusation?
I thought it was proven, using hard facts that are publicly available, that the CRTC was indeed ex-telco execs?
I wish I knew where that TSI thread was... | |
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 |  | | You missed the one who was on the board of directors of a cable lobbying group.
Skimming commissioner bios on the CRTC website is rather superficial fact checking. | |
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 | | you got to be kidding me you think the big business morons would go for YOUR rights and make less money jsut to be nice? HEY how about we form the C.I.U.P Canadian Internet Users Party unlike the silly pirate party who didn't even want to be FOR file sharing ( thats right i had to argue for it there LOL ) Net Neutrality , easing of copyright and a host of other CONSUMER based issues could be done.
HECK just make it a lobby group if you'd like. that angle might get support from CAIP like members and other businesses that dwell on serving canadians that are being gouged and ripped off by the big media companies. | |
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 | | The only possibility and I mean just that. A possibility that something might get passed if the conservatives leave office. The PC's would never force more regulation its not their MO. Even if the CRTC grew a brain and stopped taking kickbacks from bell and rogers, passed new regulation. The PC government would step in and stop it.
I live in a Conservative riding and I have sent letters, met with the assistant to David Tilson and hand delivered letters. The MP does not care about what I think about, its a "nod" a "yup" and "uhum". Just so I leave and quit bugging. Since this all started from the throttling hearings I have been trying to get David Tislon to act, he has not.
Even if the Liberals got in, I don't think there will be much of a change. Marc Garneau was the only liberal to speak up, Tony Clement invited him to the Digital Eco. Conf. and he did not go. At the Conferance, they all patted them selfs on the back said everything was great and we are a world leader. Micheal Geist and his possy were the only ones that cared. But his caring was copyright.
So there you have it in a nutshell. The only way we would have seen anything done was the coalition days, when the NDP would have had a few seats with the liberals. | |
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 1 edit | hmm... seem to remember in the mid-90's a back-bone CEO (uunet possibly?) started complaining about free riders on his network/back-bone and was going to charge for cross-over traffic to any provider with a cross-over to his network. On the alleged day to start charging the "free-riders" on his backbone,the 'free-riding' network providers said 'ok have fun with that thought - we're not paying you, you access our networks the same way"- major network connections were pulled, leaving the back-bone as its own little internet. I think it lasted for 48 hours. The back-bone CEO, after back-pedalling,'oh i was only PROPOSING that...' and a few apologies for the mis-understanding about charges from him, the cross-connections were restored and it hasn't been mentioned again until now. anyone else remember that?, I'll have to look up the article, think it was from BoardWatch Magazine. | |
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 |  |  | | Re: Free Rides Wow..how times have changed. I didn't hear about any of this back in 97. It does make me wonder where we will be in 30 years. Each sub-group of friends in their own darknets, that completely do away with the need for onramps to the internet (ISPs)? One can only hope. | |
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 | | Having listened to the CRTC hearings as much as possible I don't see any significant net Neutrality rules in the near future | |
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 | | Yet another example of Canada's benevolent dictatorship in action. People that think Canadians are free should think again!!! | |
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