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clubs: | Gee I dunno FIOS TV vs Comcast in Montgomery County, MD. Hmmmmmmmm.........
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Westminster, CA | Re: Gee I dunno what is the Phone Company Selling Television NOW?:D | |
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Nirvana | Re: Gee I dunno Only if it's on a "naked" line! | |
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Puerto Rico | Re: Gee I dunno Then the censors will be all over that.  | |
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join:2003-01-13
Elk River, MN | what is the Phone Company Selling Television NOW?
My phone campany has been offering television service for a few years now which all channels are digital. And actually cheaper then satalite. | |
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BIGMIKE
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Westminster, CA | If I want to buy a TV, I go buy it at Ken Crane's Home Entertainment store not a Phone Company! | |
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Sturgis, SD
1 edit | Re: Gee I dunno said by BIGMIKE  :If I want to buy a TV, I go buy it at Ken Crane's Home Entertainment store not a Phone Company! Um, this is about television service, not television brands.
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BIGMIKE
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Westminster, CA
2 edits | Verizon Fios Internet Service
Maximum Connection Speed* Packages Monthly Fee Order Now
Up to 5 Mbps/2 Mbps $39.95
Up to 15 Mbps/2 Mbps - Best Value $49.95
Up to 30 Mbps/5 Mb $199.95
All Verizon Fios Internet Service packages include:
Home networking router – 4-port wired
9 e-mail accounts
MSN® Premium Internet Software
24/7 live technical support
30-day money-back-guarantee
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mrchris
We don't miss you Bush
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join:2002-10-01
North Babylon, NY | Re: Gee I dunno Are you the Verizon FIOS spamvertizer for broadband articles now?
First the "DSL Deals that aren't", now this one? | |
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Whats a Posting tag?
join:2004-09-07
Bellingham, WA
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| said by BIGMIKE :Verizon Fios Internet Service Maximum Connection Speed* Packages Monthly Fee Order Now Up to 5 Mbps/2 Mbps $39.95 Up to 15 Mbps/2 Mbps - Best Value $49.95 Up to 30 Mbps/5 Mb $199.95 All Verizon Fios Internet Service packages include: Home networking router – 4-port wired 9 e-mail accounts MSN® Premium Internet Software 24/7 live technical support 30-day money-back-guarantee You had me up until MSN Premium Internet Software
Now, I think I will pass. Speed is nice but I do not want anything to do with MSN even if it is fast. | |
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join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs: | Re: Gee I dunno You don't have to install it if you don't like it. It's that easy. | |
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Whats a Posting tag?
join:2004-09-07
Bellingham, WA
·Comcast Formerly ..
1 edit | Re: Gee I dunno said by BosstonesOwn :You don't have to install it if you don't like it. It's that easy. Oh, well then ok. I thought it was like the Qwest DSL (Powered by MSN) around here where MSN is the ISP and you are locked into using their software. | |
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join:2005-01-31
Sarasota, FL | Re: Gee I dunno Yeah you don't have to install it and use it if you don't want to, it simply gives you all the premium services of msn. I think that in some areas you can get yahoo instead of msn. | |
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join:2001-02-12
Atlanta, GA | only as an excuse to get FIOS
not sure i like IPTV if it takes up my bandwidth. | |
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join:2005-01-31
Sarasota, FL | Re: Gee I dunno FIOS TV will not take up your internet bandwidth. It will use a different wavelenght to send the video signal completely seperate from the data and voice over the fiber. | |
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join:2005-07-26
Billerica, MA | Absolutely. Comcast's pricing and pace of technology improvements only make shareholders happy and customers pissed off. I'll wave goodbye as fast as Fios becomes available. | |
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loeakaodas
join:2005-01-31
Sarasota, FL | Any Day Any day, as soon as it is available I will ditch Comcast.:D | |
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join:2003-07-08
Sebastian, FL | Re: Any Day Yes. Just to spite Comcast. | |
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r81984
Fair and Balanced
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join:2001-11-14
St John'S, NL | Price Its all about the price vs. content. Basically whoever gives me the better deal is the one I will buy from, I imagine everyone would have this view also. | |
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Enjoy the sun
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Avalon, NJ
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| Re: Price said by r81984 :Its all about the price vs. content. Basically whoever gives me the better deal is the one I will buy from, I imagine everyone would have this view also. That is the intelligent answer. Price isn't the ONLY thing that matters, though it is very important. Price, service, content, reliability, etc all come into play.
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join:2001-07-25
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
1 edit |  No way!
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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
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join:2004-01-06
Sweden
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| Re: No way! said by TearAbite :I hate my phone company so much i dont even buy PHONE service from them! Thank you VOIP ! . Good, they don't need you anyway. They will be offering a BETTER price and more content. I know where I'll be.
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imrf
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join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI
·Comcast
·WOW Internet and C..
| Re: No way! said by Tzale : They will be offering a BETTER price and more content. Verizon, possibly, SBC, BS, and Qwest no way. Then again, so far there is nothing but marketing hype for Verizon TV service, and nothing but crap coming from the rest. I'll stick with my cable company as they offer me the best service and content for the best price that I have seen from anyone else. | |
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Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: No way! I agree with you on the SBC... I'll take my chances with DirecTv. | |
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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
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join:2004-01-06
Sweden
·Verizon FIOS
·Optimum Online
| said by imrf :said by Tzale : They will be offering a BETTER price and more content. Verizon, possibly, SBC, BS, and Qwest no way. Then again, so far there is nothing but marketing hype for Verizon TV service, and nothing but crap coming from the rest. I'll stick with my cable company as they offer me the best service and content for the best price that I have seen from anyone else. Well in my neck of the woods, the cable company has raised cable internet from 29.95/month to 49.95/month, the TV service 40% over the last couple years and offer inferior quality service. The telephone company has lowered the price of internet to allow service at $15/month and $29/month.... They also offer rock solid service that hasn't gone out on me for years. FIOS is CHEAPER to maintain after it is setup. Cable companies have more problems keeping their networks up. I'll take FIOS anyday!
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join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI
·Comcast
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| Re: No way! said by Tzale : FIOS is CHEAPER to maintain after it is setup. Since you don't work for them you have no clue as to the price it costs to maintain it. But there is no chance an all fiber plant is cheaper to maintain than a HFC or copper plant. The technology is much more expensive that cable or phone networks.
Cable companies have more problems keeping their networks up. Maybe in your area, but in mine my cable company hasn't had a problem keeping the network operational. It all depends on the provider and how they want to manage the network. | |
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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
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join:2004-01-06
Sweden
·Verizon FIOS
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| Re: No way! said by imrf :said by Tzale : FIOS is CHEAPER to maintain after it is setup. Since you don't work for them you have no clue as to the price it costs to maintain it. But there is no chance an all fiber plant is cheaper to maintain than a HFC or copper plant. The technology is much more expensive that cable or phone networks. Cable companies have more problems keeping their networks up. Maybe in your area, but in mine my cable company hasn't had a problem keeping the network operational. It all depends on the provider and how they want to manage the network. I probably have been following FIOS longer than 99% of the people on this site. I may not work for them, but I have read STRAIGHT FROM VERIZON'S MOUTH that one of the benefits of FIOS is CHEAPER MAINTENANCE! FIOS costs more to install at first, but once it is installed it is a 100% passive system. Repairing the fiber is very easy and there are no signal issues to deal with. Not to mention the service can be brought to EVERY CUSTOMER that can get FIOS, not just people with X distance.
As for the cable company being less reliable. Well, just take a look at this site. More people have reliability problems with cable than they do with DSL. Reason? Cable is very sensitive to signal problems (splitters, etc). Yes, DSL is also sensitive, but most of the time you can't get a signal or be allowed to get service if the modem won't work reliably.
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Utica, MI
·Comcast
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| Re: No way! said by Tzale :I may not work for them, but I have read STRAIGHT FROM VERIZON'S MOUTH that one of the benefits of FIOS is CHEAPER MAINTENANCE! Lets see a link to that.
Repairing the fiber is very easy and there are no signal issues to deal with. You really don't know much about fiber do you? Fiber is not cheap to repair and yes it has possible signal issues when it comes to splicing it. A poor splice can cause all kinds of signal(laser) problems.
As for the cable company being less reliable. Well, just take a look at this site. More people have reliability problems with cable than they do with DSL. I think you need to take another look. I haven't seen any DSL provider more or less reliable than the next carrier. They all have their own fair share of problems, including your beloved FIOS.
Reason? Cable is very sensitive to signal problems (splitters, etc). That's probably the dumbest reasoning I have heard. There is no one reason why one form of broadband is more or less reliable, the reason, IT ALL DEPENDS ON HOW THE CARRIER MANAGES THEIR NETWORK. | |
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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
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join:2004-01-06
Sweden | Why not? If I can get MORE content for LESS money, YES I will do it. | |
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kpatz
MY HEAD A SPLODE
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join:2003-06-13
Manchester, NH
| A la carte? I would if they offered a la carte. Let me receive and pay for ONLY the channels I want. Not 60 or 100 channels of crap. That's why cable is so expensive, we're helping to fund all these channels that most people don't watch.
IPTV's infrastructure would make a la carte feasible technologically, at least. Of course so does digital cable.
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packetscan
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join:2004-10-19
Bridgeport, CT
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| No Point Seen. I don't see a need for Tv from SBC. I currently have Opt online cable modem service and Direct TV for Programming.
I'm Content with that i have yet if SBC coming into the market means my currently monthly bill will go down *due to this invisible competition* then I'll be a happy camper. | |
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IronChefMoto
Premium
join:2001-02-08
Alpharetta, GA
4 edits | It's about access to the PIPELINE Hell no! Phone companies, right now, barely do what they do now BADLY, let alone with a semblance of customer service and price competitiveness (e.g. BellSouth).
[Please note -- this is my experience with BellSouth -- SBC or Verizon may be better. Not all experiences will be the same. Read on...]
I got rid of my phone company a long time ago. I think it's time for them to realize that customers want choice. I need a pipeline to the Internet, and my damned cable company gives me that in spades with only minor hiccups. I can use the cable company's TV service and save a little on my pipeline, or I can go with Dish or DirecTV or no TV at all.
I guarantee that I would NOT want to bundle (little or no customer choice) shitty, limited POTS phone service (assuming that's what the telcos would do -- BellSouth would in a heartbeat, I'd bet) with TV over DSL. That's three damned services.
If they offer fiber to the home and run the IPTV through that, then that's two damned services from a telco that most likely will riddle my monthly bill with mystery charges. Well -- it'd still be three, 'cause they'd want me to use their phone service too. Always the phone service.
I do fine with Comcast HSI, Vonage VoIP, and television with Comcast (or DTV, Dish, etc. if I want it).
My poor neighbor bought into the whole DirecTV, BellSouth DSL, BellSouth long distance, etc. package across the street, and she hates it. It's SOOOO expensive. It's wrong. Just wrong.
The PIPELINE is the key. Once I have access to the pipeline, I don't want your other services. If I have to use them, then I find another pipeline. That's all there is to it.
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@67.98.x.x | Don't forget about... Don't forget about DRM being a factor. If they force me to use some set top cable box which prohibits good ole analog VCR usage and/or my trusty MythTV box screw it I'll stick with analog cable. | |
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join:2001-05-02
Gilbert, AZ | Not here I wouldn't SBC is horrible at delivering DSL and phone service in my city. They can't solve our DSL problems after 5 visits and they can't solve our phone problems after visiting either. Completely inept company. | |
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join:2003-01-10
Bridgeton, NJ
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·Verizon FIOS
| all comes down to price Ive been screwed by comcast so they will never get my business again but i like both direct tv and verizon Ive got great customer service from both So i guess it will come down to price weather i jump from sat to ip tv Lately tv really hasnt been worth watching anyway If i did go to ip tv I would miss my direct tivos | |
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itguy05
join:2005-06-17
Camp Hill, PA | No... As long as they use IPTV from Microsoft, I will not buy. Ever. I hate MS and will not reward them with more business.
If they use non-MS stuff for the IPTV, then sure, I'll subscribe. | |
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join:2005-08-03
CX 747-400
| Trying IPTV this week My girlfriend and I will be giving IPTV via the incumbent carrier (PCCW) here in HK a try. They have pretty competitive rates, and equivalent packages vs. the local cable company. I'm pretty anxious to see if the streams are high quality and we don't see a ton of dropped frames, etc.
We would have tried it back in the US, but Verizon doesn't offer it yet. | |
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koolman2
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join:2002-10-01
Anchorage, AK | I already am... My phone company is also my cable TV company, which is also my Internet company. | |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| Re: I already am... said by koolman2 :My phone company is also my cable TV company, which is also my Internet company. Same here...  | |
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| Tikker_LoS
join:2004-04-29
Regina, SK
 ·SaskTel Saskatchewan
| ditto
I have Local Phone, Long distance, Internet, TV, and cellular from a single company
They also offer home security, but I had an existing security monitoring contract with another company, but I'll likely move it over once the contract ends
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gatchel
join:2000-11-28
16465
| Sure. Why not. If FIOS was available and they were comparable to Comcrap what do I have to lose. I might even save a buck or 2.
It would be nice to know that I am no longer getting raped in the B hole by Comcrap. Competition is always a good thing.
As I said IF IT WAS AVAILABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
Verizon CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW??????? | |
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captokita
Premium
join:2005-02-22
Calabash, NC
| Wish I had a choice.... Really, Cable, phone, DSL, all the same people, and no competition to go to for alternatives. I can (and do) use another ISP for my DSL, but I have to pay the phone company $24.95 a month for the priveledge. (Plus the $20 to my ISP)
Isn't there a law against monopolies you ask? Why yes, but here we call it a MEMBERSHIP CORP. so they can get away with it.
I tell you, it's not that great a deal all-in-one. No one to keep them in check. | |
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cdru
Go Colts
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join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
| So which is it? The poll asks if I would buy TV from my telco. The article summary asks if I would consider. I would be very surprised if only 1/3 of existing satellite and cable subs would consider switching. If you dangle programming that costs a buck cheaper, people will jump ship. If it's a couple bucks cheaper, I bet quite a few people would jump. This is regardless of the fact that the technology used may be better (newer) then what cable companies and/or satellite companies currently offer.
I know I personally will definitely consider switching. I have Dish currently and am happy with it. But I wouldn't mind eliminating rain fade all together as well as the potential to get (basic) CATV on all my TVs without having to have a receiver. If Verizon can match my dual tuner DVR at the same price or cheaper for (nearly) identical programming, why shouldn't I consider switching?
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Data Ho
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join:2002-01-28
Rockville, MD
clubs: | "...interest is highest among digital cable subs" Interestingly, the study found "interest is highest among digital cable subs".
Are digital cable subs the most profitable for a cable company, or are HSI subs? | |
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join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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·Comcast
| Re: "...interest is highest among digital cable subs" said by JTRockville :Interestingly, the study found "interest is highest among digital cable subs". Are digital cable subs the most profitable for a cable company, or are HSI subs? I think the digital cable subs account for higher profits over HSI but HSI seems to be a higher % of profit for them.
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Your member at work
Premium
join:2005-07-07
USA
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| Simple Answer... Only if it's 100% over fiber to my apartment and with no copper involved whatsoever. I have too much copper poisoning to my blood already and fiber optics is the only real antidote! I really only want copper in all my category 5e/6 ethernet and RG-6 coaxial cables SBC! 
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@verizon.n
| Tv is not its all cracked up to be: Ok, just to show how much I love my TV, I just downgraded my premium channels to jettison STARZ!Pack from Directv!!
Now, if HBO, SHOWTIME/MovieChannel don't get their act 2gether, they're NEXT on the CHOPPING BLOCK same as cinemin and the buck stopz here!pack | |
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join:2005-04-15
Indianapolis, IN
| Re: Tv is not its all cracked up to be: said by tvnotallitscrackedup :
Ok, just to show how much I love my TV, I just downgraded my premium channels to jettison STARZ!Pack from Directv!!
Now, if HBO, SHOWTIME/MovieChannel don't get their act 2gether, they're NEXT on the CHOPPING BLOCK same as cinemin and the buck stopz here!pack
I agree 100%, There just isn't anything worth watching anymore. I would rather pay ala cart for what little I watch. cable companies need to compete, I'm tired of there constant price gouging. The only good thing they offer is internet and its to expensive. | |
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join:2003-05-19
San Luis Obispo, CA
2 edits | STARZ does suck, I've watched their channels about 5 times since January '05( I currently get EVERY movie channel Charter Cable offers 'till January '06).
HBO/CineMax- I've watched/recorded (I have the DVR that Charter offers in my area) far more often than the digital tier(Showtime/TMC). Will I pay for HBO/Max next year? Not sure, as it's a $12.00 xtra cost monthly. But, STARZ will go bye, bye, nothing I've seen from them I can't get from the other movie channels. | |
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