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| Only if you're a criminal ! This hysteria about wire tapping is for clueless sheep. If you ain't a criminal you got nothing to worry about. If you are then you're butt is toast. | |
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1 edit | Re: Only if you're a criminal ! If I'm having a private conversation about my personal life, I don't think it is right for some idiot government official to be monitoring it. Especially since I am the one paying the bill AND funding the equipment necessary to do so. I say they remove all taxes involved with home phone service if they are going to do that. It's rediculous I am funding someone to screen what I am saying. Many may not agree, but this country is becoming more and more controlling and intrusive, and I do not like it. I have been considering moving to Europe more and more each day. We live in fear everyday because of this terrorist crap, and all the President can come up with is "tap their phones". That is not going to stop them. It might slow them down, but if they are talking in code, then the "system" they use to detect terrorist activities won't work. I myself don't talk on the phone much anyway, but then again, when I do, I don't need someone playing "big brother" if I do. I can't wait until another President resides in office. If you don't like that statement, then screw you too, because I didn't ask you if you did or didn't like it. This topic about our privacy that every American has the right to. It's just like going to a doctor. They need permission in order to release medical records to other people, including other doctors.
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Acworth, GA | Well said, but it goes a step further. What happens when the government makes a mistake and identifies you as the terrorist, based on confidential top-secret wiretapping data? Based on all the executive orders our fascist-in-chief has crafted, you will lose all your property and civil rights, and you won't have access to an attorney. Period. That's the part that the right-wing-nuts don't understand. They are so busy making us afraid of the boogeyman, that they are turning more scary to all of us than anything they could ever conjure in their twisted little nazi-sympathizing minds. | |
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"My name is Mohammed."
"Hi, sexy."
"Are you wearing Veil?"
"Huh?"
"Death to you! Death to America! Praisa Allah!!!"
"Sorry, boy, go wash you feet and wait till you get my bill for $99! Hope Allah has money!"
"Infidel woman. They should cut off head."
"Now we are up to $200. It's okay, I'm used to talking to guys that probably have like a pencil size anyway."
"Dea...."
"Your call has been disconnected. Please call the FBI to get your phone unblocked. We accept Visa and Mastercard. Thank you for your stupidity."
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This hysteria about wire tapping is for clueless sheep. If you ain't a criminal you got nothing to worry about. If you are then you're butt is toast.
said like a good member of the KGB. | |
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1 edit | Re: Only if you're a criminal ! said by wdoa:said by buyAclue :
This hysteria about wire tapping is for clueless sheep. If you ain't a criminal you got nothing to worry about. If you are then you're butt is toast.
said like a good member of the KGB. OR NSA
guys the NSA has been going this for years
mostly with over seas calls but none the less
most are screened by computer be for any live person ever hears them
and its true unless you have some thing to hide whats the big deal
but then most of my family works for the NSA... so meh | |
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| Re: Only if you're a criminal ! said by elios:and its true unless you have some thing to hid whats the gib deal If a women talks about her risk for breast cancer and the government passes this along to an insurance company that would be fascism. That is where the government works hand in glove with business; like at&t and the NSA. Ooops, never mind. | |
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Riverside, CA | If I am not a criminal, then why am I being wire tapped? | |
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This hysteria about wire tapping is for clueless sheep. If you ain't a criminal you got nothing to worry about. If you are then you're butt is toast.
Only clueless sheep buy into and believe this BS propaganda.
The days of innocent until prov-en' guilty is long gone and done away with.
Now it is. You are guilty, all we need is one single shred of evidence to convict you and classify one as a felon and terrorist. We the government have the national security act to claim anyone we want as a threat to national security, then one is f**ked for life. One will have all rights
stripped away forever and neither will one be afforded a due process of law, one will be toast indeed.
Not only is the 2nd Amendment under attack, as never before. Joining it as well is the 1st Amendment also.
All credit is due Spy1 for his time and research on the following articles, and for bringing this into the light for close inspection. Thank you Spy 1, all Americans should read these articles.
Biatch, pizz and moan all one wants, that this is a copy & paste job, it is, however, nothing is claimed as my opinion, work or research. In fact its new laws or in committee. Scary reading to say the least.
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»www.hftonline.com/forum/showthre···?t=18271
Bush wants terrorism law "updated"
»news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070728/...···JBes0NUE
Bush wants terrorism law updated By DEB RIECHMANN, Associated Press Writer
8 minutes ago
President Bush wants Congress to modernize a law that governs how intelligence agencies monitor the communications of suspected terrorists.
"This law is badly out of date," Bush said Saturday in his weekly radio address.
The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA, provides a legal foundation that allows information about terrorists' communications to be collected without violating civil liberties.
Democrats want to ensure that any changes do not give the executive branch unfettered surveillance powers.
Bush noted that terrorists now use disposable cell phones and the Internet to communicate, recruit operatives and plan attacks; such tools were not available when FISA passed nearly 30 years ago. He also cited a recently released intelligence estimate that concluded al-Qaida is using its growing strength in the Middle East to plot attacks on U.S. soil.
"Our intelligence community warns that under the current statute, we are missing a significant amount of foreign intelligence that we should be collecting to protect our country," Bush said. "Congress needs to act immediately to pass this bill, so that our national security professionals can close intelligence gaps and provide critical warning time for our country."
Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis., said Bush was trying to exploit the threat from al-Qaida to push the bill. Feingold said the measure was an "egregious power grab that includes broad new powers that have nothing to do with bringing FISA up to date."
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»www.hftonline.com/forum/showthre···?t=18261
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National Network of "Fusion Centers"
Spotlight on "National Network" of Fusion Centers
EPIC's current Spotlight on Surveillance reviews "fusion centers," data sharing entities that acquire information from many sources, including private sector firms and anonymous tipsters. The Department of Homeland Security is seeking to create a national network of local and state fusion centers. The federal agency has provided more than $380 million to state and local governments in support of these centers. The fusion center program gives DHS enormous domestic surveillance powers. Spotlight on Surveillance on Fusion Centers ( »www.epic.org/privacy/surveill...···ht/0607/ ) and EPIC's Fusion Centers page ( »www.epic.org/privacy/fusion/ ). (July 26)
»www.hftonline.com/forum/showthre···?t=18262
»www.hftonline.com/forum/showthre···?t=18212
"Hate Crimes" legislation tacked-on to un-related bill!
CA Senate vote on anti-faith “hate crimes” legislation is imminent. Senators Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.) and Gordon Smith (R-Ore.) attached the controversial amendment to a Defense Reauthorization bill -- sneaking the bill onto the floor of the Senate. Such legislation would put Christian beliefs on marriage in direct conflict with federal law -- leading to the criminalization of Christianity. Read Liberty Counsel’s extensive brief on the dangers of hate crimes legislation . »www.lc.org/attachments/hatecrime···2005.pdf
Please read the pdf!
If you don't want this legislation passed, you need to get on the phone and on your FAX machines:
»www.theorator.com/senate.html
ALL kinds of "speech" are under attack, both through regulation and legislation:
"Bill Would Expand FCC Authority to Regulate Speech
The Senate Commerce Committee today passed legislation that would authorize the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to punish broadcasters for single "fleeting" utterances of common expletives. The Protecting Children from Indecent Programming Act would effectively negate a recent ruling by a federal appeals court, which found the FCC's policy of punishing "fleeting expletives" to be unlawful. CDT opposes the legislation, which seeks to expand the FCC's authority to regulate speech at a time when the legal basis for that authority is diminishing in the face of convergence and evolving user empowerment technology. July 19, 2007
PolicyBeta: Broadcast Indecency Bill July 17, 2007
»blog.cdt.org/2007/07/17/bill-...···ulation/
All threads »www.hftonline.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=9
And of course a few words from this Countries Founding Fathers.
Government, not the people, to be held suspect. The words of the Founding Fathers reflected the actions they took during the War for Independence. Their view of government was one of deep suspicion. The task they set for themselves in establishing a government once they had thrown off the British tyranny was to limit and restrain their own creation.
A couple of Jefferson quotes are both easy to understand and illustrative. "When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny" and The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government
Patrick Henry warned during the Virginia Ratifying Convention debates over adoption of the present Constitution:'Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined
Throughout history the names of tyrants change, not their methods
Day after day, the government is operating more secretive, yet in open defiance of the people who elected them. They no longer fear the people, nor is their fear in their eyes or lies.
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| said by buyAclue :
This hysteria about wire tapping is for clueless sheep. If you ain't a criminal you got nothing to worry about. If you are then you're butt is toast.
What are you worried about? Are you a pedophile? | |
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Cockeysville, MD | Ahh the most used and most defeated argument in history.
Good to see the 5% of the population that still haven't owned up to it are learning to use a computer. Now start reading. | |
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| said by buyAclue :
This hysteria about wire tapping is for clueless sheep. If you ain't a criminal you got nothing to worry about. If you are then you're butt is toast.
Do you want to bet on that??
There are billions/trillions to be made by tapping into the conversations of the major stock traders & corps. Congress just handed the most corrupt administration we've ever had, the to keys to the cookie jar. | |
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| | MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
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1 edit | Re: Only if you're a criminal ! said by tkdslr:said by buyAclue :
This hysteria about wire tapping is for clueless sheep. If you ain't a criminal you got nothing to worry about. If you are then you're butt is toast.
Do you want to bet on that?? There are billions/trillions to be made by tapping into the conversations of the major stock traders & corps. Congress just handed the most corrupt administration we've ever had, the to keys to the cookie jar. While I know some of the Hedge Fund Managers in NY, (aside from Bear Stearns, guess they didn't have an Alpha Theory), I doubt the government cares what the stock traders do. There's no money in that.
Now, the oil in Iraq ...
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00000 | Re: Only if you're a criminal ! yes. just look at how they ignored the stock irregularities right before 9/11. they truly don't care about what stock traders do. | |
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| OwlSaverOwlSaverPremium
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Berwyn, PA | or a political opponent. | |
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| | | This is the mindset the government would LOVE for you to have. Only if you're a criminal, should you be worried. Problem is, it's the government that sets the definition for what's a crime. So for now, you're okay. But someday, your political speech will be ruled a crime and now YOU have something to worry about.
These people will be unable to resist using this to further their own power. It'll become less and less about catching criminals of the drug pushing terrorism variety and more about catching criminals who seem to all be in opposition to the political views of those in power.
It's a dangerous slope we've allowed ourselves to be put onto.
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NOT Texas!
1 edit | What about the simple concept that the founding gathers figured out; it's none of your business.
Living in a free society poses risks. If one of them is the chance of a terrorist attack, I'll assume the risk. It's the least I can do to try and live up to their vision and sacrifice.
We are the sovereigns here, not the government. | |
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|  jvmorrisI Am The Man Who Was Not There.Premium,MVM
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Reston, VA | said by buyAclue :
This hysteria about wire tapping is for clueless sheep. If you ain't a criminal you got nothing to worry about. If you are then you're butt is toast.
Well, let's just run with that for a moment, shall we?
If the Congressmen and Senators who voted for this bill are going to maintain this as their position, would it be asking too much for them to put their pawprints where their mouths are and insert a section stating that all Members of Congress, elected members of the Executive Branch and all (federal-level) political appointees shall hereby waive their Constitutional rights with regards to this Act? I'm sure lots of them have international phones calls. If they're not doing anything wrong, what's the problem? (That was your position, wasn't it?)
The Act comes up for reconsideration within the next six months. That's plenty of time to draft such a Section for the permanent invocation.
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Netcong, NJ | I think I'll buy TracFone stock. Prepaid cell phones should do very well. | |
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Austin, TX | This is an outrage With knowledge of what my wife would like me to pick up at the store on my way home, there's no end to their power! | |
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Corona, CA | It's not surprising... ...that Congressional approval ratings are at an all time low, even lower than the horrid Executive.
Congress continues to rubber stamp this crap, endless pork, and everything else the "new" Congressional leadership claimed they were going to stop.
So long as the lunatics of both parties along with their big spending bribers control the whores in Washington, the rest of us will continue being screwed on a daily basis.
Oh well. What can ya do other than work though April 30th slaving to fund the government waste and corruption.
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| | | Re: It's not surprising... said by ColorBASIC:...that Congressional approval ratings are at an all time low, even lower than the horrid Executive. Congress continues to rubber stamp this crap, endless pork, and everything else the "new" Congressional leadership claimed they were going to stop. So long as the lunatics of both parties along with their big spending bribers control the whores in Washington, the rest of us will continue being screwed on a daily basis. Oh well. What can ya do other than work though April 30th slaving to fund the government waste and corruption. i remember pelosi said the congress was gonna work 5 days a week a few months sgo. then it went down to 4 days a week now i think its 3. outta those 3 days congress actually works a total of 12 hours. actual work is maybe 2 hours after 10 are spent babbling. these idiots also seem to take more vacation time each year. they can "work" 30 days in a row without a vacation
im sure when they passed the law politicians made sure to exempt themselves from the act. it always seems to be that way. these idiots should change the law so that every phone call they make is monitored by the nsa | |
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San Luis Obispo, CA Reviews:
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| Carnivore DCS1000 So, you're a bad-guy, spy, terrorist.
If so, do you ever say anything over email, Chat, radio, telephone, cellular, SAT-phone, etc. that's not coded? O.K., maybe for disinfo, or if you're an idiot.
Checkout project Shamrock in the '50s.
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»www.usdoj.gov/ | |
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| | | Re: I love this one! Here he is, the terrorist S.O.B. | |
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Pompano Beach, FL Reviews:
·Speakeasy
|  H R 5825 did NOT become a public law !
This is why the president is back at it again..
he failed last time.. and is trying again..
Bush's warrant less wire tap program is still illegal and the trial in California proceeds.
A majority of house representatives are not in favor of this new wiretap bill. | |
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join:2004-04-24
Pompano Beach, FL Reviews:
·Speakeasy
| Re: H R 5825 did NOT become a public law ! said by tkdslr:A majority of house representatives are not in favor of this new wiretap bill. Well, I was wrong about that, the house foolishly just passed Bush's new snooping bill.
After all the abuses, corruption, and other deceitful acts, you would have though they would have learned their lessons by now.
Nope, congress and it's new democrat members are just as dumb as ever.. | |
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| | Oooo so does this... So does this mean I should make sure to say plenty of X rated things on the phone so the boys on the other end listening to my convo can get all hott and bothered? | |
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join:2001-06-27
Land O Lakes, FL | I'm waiting If there ever is another terrorist attack on US soil who will shoulder the blame?
The administration for not catching them.
OR
The democrats for not giving the tools requested by the administration. | |
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|  BillPremium,VIP
join:2001-12-09 | Re: I'm waiting What happened after 9/11? Both sides blamed the other. | |
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Reston, VA | Re: I'm waiting said by Bill:What happened after 9/11? Both sides blamed the other. Interesting. My recollection is that both 'sides' (whatever you may mean by that) blamed al Qaeda initially, not each other. Then, one 'side' decided to forget about Al Qaeda and blame Saddam Hussein, but you probably don't remember that part, do you? And, when the other 'side' continued to maintain "It's Al Qaeda, stupid!", they were labeled as 'unpatriotic' terrorist sympathizers, but you don't remember that either, I guess.
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1 edit | Re: I'm waiting You know what I mean by "both sides": it was a response to the OP who mentions Republicans vs Democrats and how each side places the blame for the attack on the other's terrorism/military policy.
I'm not sure what you're tyring to get at by attacking me, but, as usual, a simple response turns political. | |
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Reston, VA | Re: I'm waiting No, I suspected your 'both sides' was shorthand for Republicans and Democrats. Consequently, my comment still stands.
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| said by lesopp:If there ever is another terrorist attack on US soil who will shoulder the blame? Would blaming the terrorists be an option or is that politically incorrect?
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tlcbob
join:2001-07-11
Harrisburg, PA | Well put. Security is a balance of protection of life, protection of rights and protection of freedom. You must give up a little of one to get the other.
In a perfect world, I would see no need for the government to tap my lines. However; we do not live in Utopia. The U.S. government has only two purposes (contrary to popular opinion) - our security and our welfare. (Other purposes were created by self serving politicians who are career government servants??? - looking out for their careers by creating programs that help them keep their jobs) The government must have the tools to secure their people. SPYING is a tool that has been used for years. Without it, we have no security - especially today, as communication methods change. How many events have already been thwarted due to spying - Space needle, bridge planned explosives, etc. Probably, many not revealed. GOOD JOB BUSH administration! KUDOS! There was plenty of finger pointing after 9/11 - and there will be after the next attack (sure to happen). We are NOT doing enough to be ahead of these radical Islamic goons. | |
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| | You can watch your right to privacy and security... be pissed away on C-SPAN right now. | |
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1 edit | Nothing more to say then... Bush sucks. He's the worst president we ever had and has lowered the moral of the nation to an incredible low. Whats even worse, he doesnt give a crap. He sucks. | |
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Minneapolis, MN | Re: Nothing more to say then... Security is just there to make white people feel safe as Mr. Carlin once said. I do believe we have to be on the watch for terrorism but it should not come at the cost of our rights. | |
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Seattle, WA | Re: Nothing more to say then... I have to agree. Who was it that said something along the lines of "people who sacrifice civil liberties/civil rights for security deserve neither civil liberties/civil rights or security"? | |
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Keller, TX | Re: Nothing more to say then... That would be Ben Franklin. | |
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Camden, TN | I'm going to start using smoke signals or 2 cans and some string. Anyone want to tell me why Bush wants to spy on everyone? And no don't say terrorism. That's BS. | |
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Mary Esther, FL | Re: I'm going to start using Maybe I'll just use PGP.. ohh wait that labels you a "terrorist"
(America is dumbing down and accepting this - wake up people)
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| | | | Re: I'm going to start using Hey.... I'm a Canadian, and I'm tell ya, don't let Bush take away your " Individual Right To Privacy" or any other Individual Rights, he only has power to gain....The Power to control you. | |
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| | | They have to include everyone because of all this P.C. crap that's been ramping up over the years. Same reason they have to search grandma while they search Muhechmad at the airport. It's to keep the stupid profiling argument away.
I honestly don't see the racism with keeping an eye on middle-eastern men when your country is under attack by middle-eastern men. | |
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| OwlSaverOwlSaverPremium
join:2005-01-30
Berwyn, PA Reviews:
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| Hmm, who will Bush (or any president) tap? Hmm, terrorists would be good. But, they use illegal encryption tools. So, we can't tap them. But, there is no Congressional oversight. There is no judicial oversight. Who should I tap? ... I wonder how my opponents campaign is going? Nah, that would not be right. Well, maybe the terrorists are funding them. Well, maybe a little peek under the covers would nit be so bad.
That would never happen. | |
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Mableton, GA | Think about it... The government is not going to randomly pick out Joe Schmoe and wiretap them. They do not have the time or resources to blindly tap people. You will (and should be) tapped if you are talking to who is believed to be or has been in contact with a terrorist. If you are being tapped, I'm sure its for a good reason.
Plus, this is not a new issue. The only reason liberals are getting their panties in a wad is because Bush is president and they like to make it difficult for him to effectively combat terrorism. | |
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united state | a complete joke it just never ends does it.....figures | |
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| People still don't get it This has nothing to do with left or right and everything to do with dismantling the safeguards that the educated mother-landers put in place for rich landowners way back when. The problem is that pesky amendments made it into law that now make it a hassle for the asshats who happen to run things (again, forget right & left -- they're all asshats) up in D.C. to run amok raiding the till and preparing for a police state when it crumbles like a bridge over the mis ...
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San Jose, CA Reviews:
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| Re: People still don't get it It seems optimistic that they're trying to prepare for a police state for when it crumbles. I think what they're really trying to do is just continue stealing from us at any cost and using any methods, and for us to wait for it to crumble and fight it is just a fool's wait. The issues are here and now, have been here, and will be what everyone (including us and them) make of it. The politicians are becoming criminals themselves at enormous critial mass levels that to me feels like and has recently often been said is much more than before. | |
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| Uh, they are already wire tapped! When these stories come out, they have already been doing it for years. The government is probably about 5-6 generations ahead on the "next" technology, wiretapping your brain - for me, there isn't much there to tap into. Lol!
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