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Windows XP: $1
If you're an Indonesian government pirate, anyway
by Karl Bode Thursday 09-Jun-2005 tags: business · world
Windows XP piracy is rampant in Indonesia, and not simply among every day users. Tens of thousands of government employees and officials are supposedly using pirated versions of the operating system. According to the BBC, Microsoft has struck a deal with the country wherein they pay $1 for every pirated copy of Windows XP, and agree never to pirate the software again.

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jarablue
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Nope.

Me love you long time. Pay the piper. 1 Dollah isn't bad at all I say.
youngo

join:2001-07-03

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Re: Nope.

isn't all that piracy proof and it doesn't have an affect on microsoft? or proof that piracy doesn't always hurt the company? maybe when a corporation gets to a certain point the copyright should be lifted. or when the copyrighted material sells enough copies it should be made public domain or at least free to copy. i'm pretty sure the owner(s) of the windows copyright have been compensated more than enough.

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said by jarablue:

1 Dollah isn't bad at all I say.
Really.

It kind of pisses me off that the government can get away paying $1.00 for a whole bunch of copies of XP, while typical home consumers like myself have to pay an outlandish $99.00 for every friggin' copy of it. Every single computer, and then face activation restrictions for our legit copies.

It almost makes me want to pirate XP just to spite them.
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Re: Nope.

I think you missed the point of his wordings. I assume you're referring to the "me love you long time" statement.

Think asian prostitutes.
indian8

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Re: Nope.

nope think american bitches

Goober
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Re: Nope.

Are you an idiot?

"Me love you long time" is a phrase from some movie or something, you moron. Something prostitutes said to american john or GIs.

It wasn't meant to be a cut on asian women. Cretin . . .

AbBaZaBbA
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i guess they realize

that when they have the lawmakers as the lawbreakers they've got a problem.

time to choose

@verizon.net

Re: i guess they realize

said by "":
that when they have the lawmakers as the lawbreakers they've got a problem.
Indeed. And that "problem" is caused by powerful multi-national 1st-world corporations, hell-bent on exploiting the rest of the world for profit, firstly by using their people as cheap labor, to avoid paying 1st-world skilled-labor costs, and secondly, by still attempting to sell their goods into those countries at 1st-world prices.

It simply doesn't work.

"Piracy", or rather, intellectual-property infringement, is a normal feature of a healthy free market. The problem with too high a percentage of "piracy" versus legitimate sales of goods, are caused by unrealistic and inflexible prices set by those sellers of goods.

What these companies need to do, is simply lower their prices, in order to compete.

But they don't want to do that, because that would make their whole "outsourcing" scheme back-fire, because then 1st-world consumers, will start importing those same goods being sold at 3rd-world prices, in order to lower *their* costs (of goods). Effectively, they are taking advantage of the benefits of "outsourcing" and "globalization" too, as consumers. But this would tend to naturally counter-act the labor cost benefits that companies obtain, thus leading the worldwide economic system towards equilibrium again.

There are only two outcomes - companies reduce their level of greed, and realize that such practices are unsustainable in the long term, and start paying reasonable wages for labor, as well as selling goods for reasonable prices (accepting "market equilibrium"), or further push for draconian legislation worldwide, that effectively turns everyone into slaves - eventually resulting in wars and chaos (forced slavery, world-wide laborers forced to live and purchase goods at what is effectively the "company store"). The current path being taken (DRM, etc., and further restrictions on rights of citizens) - does not look too promising. It's time to WAKE UP, both people and companies alike. Remember, companies are made up of people too.

MS is greed

@verizon.net

Re: i guess they realize

Oh, and the BSA are nothing more than well-paid liars. From the linked article:
quote:
"They can't force developing countries like us to solely use legal software since we can't afford it. They want us to gradually reduce our use of it."
quote:
It said the losses due to counterfeit programs amounted to almost US$8bn. ... The problem is particularly acute in Indonesia. Counterfeit software makes up 87% of software on the market in Indonesia, according to BSA figures.
If the question is not one of whether or not the assumed "purchasers" made a choice whether or not to pay the asking price for the "legitimate" version of the software, but whether they simply CANNOT AFFORD to pay that price - then the BSA's claims of "losses" simply cannot be true. There never would have been that number of legitimate sales, at that price, anyways.

But at least with "piracy", those particular "popular" products gain market-share and awareness within those markets. I'm sure that MS (secretly) is very glad that Windows and Office are being "pirated", rather than Indonesians simply all switching to a Linux-based solution for their computing needs.

Think of it this way - if your computer's operating-system software, cost you as much as half a year's normal wages, would you pay that? Especially if you could easily purchase an "alternative" copy, for not more than a few hours' worth of wages?

At least in first-world numbers, that would be akin to MS choosing to charge something like $50,000 US dollars for a copy of Windows XP. Would *you* pay that much? And if you couldn't, then would you choose to pirate it, if it was de-facto required, to communicate with your friends and associates living in other countries, and to have business-to-business communications with other commercial companies (at work)? And if so, then would the BSA really be justified in claiming "billions and billions" (to quote the late Carl Sagan) dollars worth of lost sales? Perhaps the *true* reason that the sales were "lost", was simply because the prices were too high in the first place.

Greed has "unfortunate" side-effects now doesn't it?

CherokeeRooster

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Whomever you are I would like to applaud your point of view and attitude on the direction of this situation and more peeople need to realize it starts with each person having the guts to say no to a corporate raiding economy! Tough huh? Especially like you said these corporations are made up of people too!

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Me soo h^%^y

We love bill gates Long time.

So what do we get for $1.00.?

Hooker says.. You get everything... GI JOE A OK

Harddrive
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Re: Me soo h^%^y

Everything?

CPM
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Re: Me soo h^%^y

Yes Evvveryyy thing. LOL

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Re: Me soo h^%^y

Well, old buddy, feel like spending some of your hard-earned money?

crippy
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$1 ....

its not just 1 country, i can bet that atleast half of usa uses pirated windows xp too probably.. and $1 for a $150 software ?? meh... i shudve just got the pirated version and paid $1... lol

reub2000
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Re: $1 ....

The mojority of comps in the US come from oems like dell, gateway, compaq, who install valid copy of Windows on their computers.

Kfedka
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I bought Windows xp Corporate for, if I remember correctly $3 when I was in Belarus(East Europe) two summers ago. As far as I know that the only version of windows that I ever bought.

Re: $1 ....

my friend can get an academic winxp (same as regular winxp i believe) for $5/copy.

Jackboot

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Thats not what piracy is about. You shouldn't have to pay one red cent for a pirated copy as the purpose of pirating is supposed to be to spread the technology around without making money on it. If you're paying five dollars for a free ( it was free you know) copy of winxp, you're paying a guy five bucks for a cd disk! I haven't researched the profit margin there but I suspect that it's no different than Billy charging 100 dollars for something that has already paid for itself to the developer millions of times over. In my opinion you shouldn't have to pay for a pirated copy, it should be treated as shareware.

inteller
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I'LL BUY THAT FOR A DOLLAR!

Wow....maybe Robocop was onto something.

CPM
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Re: I'LL BUY THAT FOR A DOLLAR!

I buy this for a dollar as well.
the niTz
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Re: I'LL BUY THAT FOR A DOLLAR!

me 2;)

pv8man999

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not related at all but.....

lol read screenshot my friend took


Bill
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Re: not related at all but.....

Prepare for random IMs....

Probably wasn't the smartest idea to display your AIM screen name, along with your friends.
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lol, that's what you get for not using ie...

SRFireside

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You do realize that's a pop up ad, right? Just want to make sure.

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Re: not related at all but.....

Surely not in Firefox, the browser you can trust!:p

Now if you were referring to CPM's picture, then popup would be more meaningful . . .

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Re: I'LL BUY THAT FOR A DOLLAR!

Only problem is you may be buying a little bit more (i.e. medical acronyms) than you bargained for with that dollar.

oliphant
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Each you 15 dollah

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Re: I'LL BUY THAT FOR A DOLLAR!

15 dollah boucou money!

oliphant
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Re: I'LL BUY THAT FOR A DOLLAR!

My mom doesn't let me spend more than 10.
Asmodeus

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said by CPM:

I buy this for a dollar as well.
BAKLA!!!

dualsmp

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World Domination for a $1

the niTz
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Re: World Domination for a $1

ROFL that was a good laugh

Kfedka
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Lol, what a picture...provide a link so I can see some more!:D;)

a

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right on bill!

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It was either get the government hooked on microsoft's wares now or wait until they get smart and go to linux.
However, $1 is still and will always be $1 more than Free.
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Re: World Domination for a $1

If Linux were all that good I would be using it right now. But no I decided to pay for Windows.
George Kidd

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Cost

Hmmm.... I think they paid way too much. IMHO it should have been $.01

mrchris
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I think..

MS should stop doing business in this country altogether and force the companies to buy out of country.
indian8

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Re: I think..

Oops It's not an option to stop bussiness with the Asian countries.
Its a fact that americans should understand. this 'coz

There are thousands of software engineers employed in countries like India who develope the ms products.

Also there are thousands of calls poring into countries like INDIA for technical support/ customer support for microsoft products..
I other words americans canot afford the ms software either without the help form asain countries.

If for an example if the India stops providing support for ms for a single day millions of americans would go crazy behind their computers. All most any customer/technical support american would try to use would finally land up in India/Asain countries.

In simple terms americans canot afford the ms products without pirating it.

DiscardedVet
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199 - 1

Yep, all those home-joe-Indy dudes are going to jump on that dollar. Then they only have to pay $198 for the legit copy (granted if they have home edition pirated). DAMN what a bargain !!!

DV

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pokesph
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$1.00

YES.. I PROMISS NEVER TO DOWNLOAD or PIRATE SOFTWARE AGAIN!

right........

insomniac84

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Kinda unfair.

In the US were expected to pay 150, but in India they get away with 1 dollar a copy. Granted they are still using the illegal copies, but definitely wrong to let them off. Personally I think microsoft is scared that if it sued their government they would win, but India would go all linux. Unfortunately they will go the linux route anyways. Microsoft's price tag of anything above free screws them in the 3rd world.

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Re: Kinda unfair.

Some guy who can't sleep said

"n the US were expected to pay 150, but in India they get away with 1 dollar a copy."

I believe the article said Indonesia....

Of Course the rest of your comments after that are worthless.

Hob
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insomniac84

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Re: Kinda unfair.

said by hobgoblin:

Of Course the rest of your comments after that are worthless.
Not really, people with no money in 3rd world countries aren't going to touch windows if they have to pay. Linux or any future free OS, is going to be the clear winners in poor countries.

Chssshh

@66.190.x.x

Indonesian thieves!

Bunch of crooks.... where are the teachings of their religion in regards to stealing? Chopping off a hand or two? NO. Buy it for a dollah. Hypocrites.

morbo
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Re: Indonesian thieves!

said by Chssshh:

Bunch of crooks.... where are the teachings of their religion in regards to stealing? Chopping off a hand or two? NO. Buy it for a dollah. Hypocrites.
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wacky tobaccy

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Re: Indonesian thieves!

"chop off your mouse finger"

indian8

join:2005-06-11

American Hipocrasy

Taking about the Hippocrates world knows that! no one else can be better hipcrites than american..

comming to $1 issue, ms sells xp for $150 now if we think this in terms of asian counties like India $150 would be Indian Rs.7500 so who are the hipocrites. Think that if you would have to buy xp at $7500 what would you do.

Brother when you don't know any thing about the religion you don't have the rights to comment on it. Reading some anti Indonecian articles does not make to learn the religion. First try to learn thing and then comment about it. Read some authentic articles to understand some one else religion that would make you better human-being. Lets not comment on other religions unless we know what it says.

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