  Chris 313Come get somePremium
join:2004-07-18
Houma, LA | Dated? Only 768 in 2009? I'd still call that dated. Still, it's nice if you were stuck with 384 for who knows how long. | |
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 |  TailsPremium
join:2007-09-25
Sanford, NC
kudos:2
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| Re: Dated? Let's just say it's a welcomed improvement. I would love 1.5+ megabit upload speed, but at least we are moving in the right direction.
I wish FTTH would hurry up and get here. WS is deploying FTTH in new development projects, or so I heard a few months ago. Wonder if that is still going on?
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| | Chris 313Come get somePremium
join:2004-07-18
Houma, LA Reviews:
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| Re: Dated? said by Tails:Let's just say it's a welcomed improvement. I would love 1.5+ megabit upload speed, but at least we are moving in the right direction. I wish FTTH would hurry up and get here. WS is deploying FTTH in new development projects, or so I heard a few months ago. Wonder if that is still going on? Welcome improvement indeed, but after being on Comcast with a 2200 upload, 768 looks very slow.
I do applaude them for doing anything. I'm basically in the same seat. I've had 8800/2200 for about 2 years when other Comcast areas have had 16/2 for 3 or more years.
In that regard, I'd be clammoring for any increase too. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | New developments are getting fiber, however "brownfield" builds are expensive relative to the cost of keeping the copper infrastructure so WS isn't doing anything with them. | |
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| iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
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| Anything much above 768 would require rather significant changes in DSL infrastructure. Anything above 1 Mbps would require switching to Annex M (which nobody in the US does), line bonding (which very few companies in the US do, WS excluded) or fiber. WS does have a 1.5 Mbps upload tier, but it's only available in a handful of fiber markets (24/1.5 for $45 per month). | |
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| | What about 1.5meg up for the 12meg package? Now they need to up the 12meg package to 1.5 or more, because right now there is no reason for me to keep 12meg I could go back to 3meg, all i really need is the upload. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: What about 1.5meg up for the 12meg package? Then save a few bucks and go for 3 Mbit. That's what I'd probably do actually if I had WS's options (and not Comcast's) available to me.
ADSL2+ Annex A (what WS uses) can't go beyond about 1 Mbps on upload speeds per-line unfortunately. | |
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join:2007-09-25
Sanford, NC
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Windstream
| Re: wow 768 kbps But we are talking about DSL here, not cable.
From what I understand, the circuit has to be upgraded in order to increase upload speed. I mean, I would love a 1.5-2.0 megabit upload speed on a 12 megabit download profile, but unless the price goes up, I don't see that happening. I mean, it's possible. I can get 12 megabit upload, but like one user said, no point in upgrading because upload matters more.
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1 edit | Re: wow 768 kbps All they would have to do is enable Annex M assuming their DSALM support annex M and clean up the line if stat aren't good enough, they could get up to about 3megs from what iv read.
Also 12meg has been at 768k wince it arrived witch was about 2 times that of the other packages I'm just hoping they keep the same type of speed differences. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
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| Re: wow 768 kbps SNR is lower on upstream with Annex M. Expected but possibly problematic. Also, upstream maxes at around 2 Mbps even with Annex M. I also wouldn't be terribly surprised if a fair amount of WS's gear can't support Annex M either on the subscriber or DSLAM side. | |
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At one point someone in the WS forums posted the type of DSLAMS in use by WS for ADSL2+ and I'm 90% sure they do support Annex M | |
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| | | said by jchambers28:768 k is a joke now days. I have cox and have a upload a 1 to 2 megs vs the sloooow 768 k speed. Um, 768k to 1Mb isn't a big difference...... | |
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| |  HiVoltI Piss on BellPremium
join:2000-12-28
Toronto, ON
kudos:10
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2 edits | Re: wow 768 kbps said by firehawk618:said by jchambers28:768 k is a joke now days. I have cox and have a upload a 1 to 2 megs vs the sloooow 768 k speed. Um, 768k to 1Mb isn't a big difference...... If Windstream DSL is PPPoE based (very likely), then 768k sync rate turns into something like 650kbps actual speed, due to approximately 15% of various overheads.
Here in Canada I have 800k upstream on my PPPoE DSL, and the actual speed is about 680kbps.
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| TailsPremium
join:2007-09-25
Sanford, NC
kudos:2 | Re: Does this work for anyone else? Time Warner is STILL on 384?! | |
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join:2008-07-20
Hilliard, OH | Re: Does this work for anyone else? Only in a few areas I think. Most places are 512 standard and turbo greatly depends on the area. I live in Ohio and 768 is the max for turbo...kind of sad. | |
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| |  fireflierCoffee. . .Need CoffeePremium
join:2001-05-25
Limbo | Yup. In my area it is. They've got powerboost working nicely but upload is still a paltry 384K. | |
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| iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | In my area (TX, not CO) TWC has 15/2 available for $50, or 7/512 for $40 
Competition, man. Competition. | |
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| | JonRup
join:2008-07-20
Hilliard, OH | Re: Does this work for anyone else? There's plenty of competition in my area, they just won't upgrade their networks. I have ATT DSL/Uverse, WOW (both of which offer 2 megs of upload speed) and TW still won't do anything. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: Does this work for anyone else? That's rather interesting. Guess WOW's high internet-only pricing lets TWC keep internet customers despite low upload speeds. | |
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join:2008-09-22
Quitman, GA | glad to see some increase For me being on 384 up soooo long that I am very very happy to see a speed increase. Of course with more and more social network/web2.0 apps/sites popping up left and right, upload speeds are becoming more and more important.
Maybe we'll see even better upload speeds become available, but for now 768 is a nice improvement over 384. | |
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join:2004-03-11
Fort Lauderdale, FL
1 edit | AT&T falls farther behind the pack. So now AT&T is the lowest with 512 kbps upload(other than U-Verse). If I was still with them, I'd be pissed right now. Well ok the 6MB tier has 768 up. They'd better get their ass in gear or they'll be a wireless only company. Oh wait that's crap too. Man AT&T's going to shit. U-Verse would save them if it wasn't being deployed so slow.
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