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United, in opposition to customers switching to cable...
(old news - 11:30AM Friday Oct 10 2008)
tags: business · telco · consumers · Windstream
Back in July, we noted that AT&T, Verizon and Qwest joined forces to create a new alliance that makes it easier for people who are moving to transfer their landline and broadband services between companies. Collectively they also launched a website named Movearoo -- flush with moving tips and help. The tips however are largely decoration -- the alliance's primary function is to keep business within the baby bell family, and away from cable and indie competitors. Windstream this week stated that they've joined the coalition -- the first smaller, rural telco to do so.

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mrchris
We don't miss you Bush
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join:2002-10-01
North Babylon, NY

Screw the big corps

If people see a better deal with the smaller ones, they'll take it. None of this retention bullshit since you are feeding these behemoths if you do.
patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

ILEC alliance

Maybe they should call it the ILEC alliance. There is only 1 ILEC for any territory in the USA by law.

The only problem would be when your move from a baby bell to a "our shareholders love the USF" indie, and the CSR tells you, your Uverse Elite service will be replaced by $79.99 256dwn/128up and no Caller ID or touch tone dialing. Consider yourself lucky, party lines were only grandfathered last week.

So yeah, it might make the source baby bell ILECs look like Japan Internet compared to indie rural ILECs, and that will make the baby bells look negative b/c of brand blurring and the illusion of the baby bells owning or having a say in the operations of the indie rural ILEC.
iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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Re: ILEC alliance

Last I checked a lot of these rural ILECs have their acts together. Granted, near my area in Texas the local telephone coop (not WS) charges roughly the same for DSL as WIldBlue charges for sat internet, but that's not horrible, just high-priced because most areas served can't get anything else.

Then there's GVTC next door. They have relatively inexpensive ADSL up to 5/768, cable up to 12/768 and, in some places, fiber up to 12/1 for home and 25/2 for business. The home fiber service is priced competitively enough, too. This is from a rural ILEC.

Move the crosshairs to my town. No DSL from the ILEC, Verizon. But Windstream bought Kerrville Telephone Company so they have a DSL presence of some sort. The price ends up being pretty expensive, at least for now...$50 for a 1.5/512 business DSL conection, maybe $40 for a home connection of the same speed. But once they upgrade infrastructure you'll be able to get 12/768 DSL for a similar price, more sustained download speed than I'm able to get here with Qwest or Comcast without paying hefty bucks for a Comcast business-class plan.

So don't diss the local telcos. A lot of them actually have decent networks, and a fair number of them are running FTTH in places you wouldn't expect. Honestly, I'd take Embarq or Windstream over Qwest any day...

mrchris
We don't miss you Bush
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North Babylon, NY

Re: ILEC alliance

I still find a monopoly unacceptable, I still think there should be a minimum of four or five choices in each state.
iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO

Re: ILEC alliance

There are in some places; there are CLECs. But in rural areas there's little incentive for a new competitor to come in. As far as multiple ILECs per state, Texas has plenty. They're just not all in the same place.

TreeTopFlyer

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So don't diss the local telcos. A lot of them actually have decent networks, and a fair number of them are running FTTH in places you wouldn't expect.
Windstream is not one of these telcos . . .

As for Windstreams service and support, I would actually have to compare them to Hughsnet Satellite. Absolute bottom of the barrel.

inteller
Sociopaths always win.

join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK

Re: ILEC alliance

no, CenturyTel has dibs on the absolute bottom of the barrel
bjbrock

join:2002-10-28
Mcalester, OK

Speaking of Windstream....

Hobbs and Lovington DSL down again for the second time in as many weeks.

Windstream is the worst DSL provider I deal with followed closely by AT&T.

Even though I'm not moving, I'm trying to get my boss to consider Cable for phone and Internet in the 100 branch offices we have. I'm tired of dealing with phone companies and their flaky DSL and TERRIBLE tech support.
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