 en102Canadian, eh? join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA | Wireless loves txt. quote: Wireless companies have been accused of supporting phone spam because they make a profit off of those people without text message plans who receive these messages.
Very true... I have a Nextel Blackberry 7100i, and never receive spam (filters work well). On my AT&T Samsung ZX-20, I had to have AT&T disable messaging altogether, as both lines we receiving ringtone spam ad messaging Of course, AT&T has some 'controls', but then you have to pay fees to use it.
In general - wireless companies love txt messaging though, as its VERY high profit margin »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_message_service quote: Commercially SMS is a massive industry in 2006 worth over 80 billion dollars globally.[15] SMS has an average global price of 11 cents and maintains a near 90% profit margin.[16]
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 |  HEDP join:2008-04-27 Miami, FL | Re: Wireless loves txt. They can start by removing the "send text message" from their websites and only allow it for customers only when the log into the web portals on the website, where that feature would become available. | |
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 fuziwuziNot born yesterdayPremium join:2005-07-01 Atlanta, GA | death to spammers! They should also do something about the spam txts that automatically deduct minutes off of pay-as-you-go plans. My Mom, who is definitely not a technically inclined woman, was distraught to learn that simply by reading the txt messages she was getting she was having all her minutes she'd purchased used up. One message alone deducted 100 minutes. I told her to simply not read ANY txt messages, nobody she knows is txt'ing her so just ignore them. I set her phone to not alert her to incoming messages.
So spammers have made what could be a useful system (txt'ing) into something that must be ignored. | |
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 |  | | Re: death to spammers! ah yes...the useful texting system thats getting kids in accidents everywhere. While I agree it could be useful, its mutated into a different baby...almost like Rosemary's. -- "Anything worth having is worth cheating for." WC Fields | |
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 |  |  en102Canadian, eh? join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA | Re: death to spammers! Just as email has its general use, spammers and marketers have 'ruined' it. Many sms can be sent to phonenumber@carrier.com -- Canada = Hollywood North | |
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 |  | | said by fuziwuzi:They should also do something about the spam txts that automatically deduct minutes off of pay-as-you-go plans. My Mom, who is definitely not a technically inclined woman, was distraught to learn that simply by reading the txt messages she was getting she was having all her minutes she'd purchased used up. One message alone deducted 100 minutes. I told her to simply not read ANY txt messages, nobody she knows is txt'ing her so just ignore them. I set her phone to not alert her to incoming messages. So spammers have made what could be a useful system (txt'ing) into something that must be ignored. I dont think it matters if you read them or not. Once it is delivered to your phone, you are charged. | |
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| Re: death to spammers! said by fuziwuzi:They should also do something about the spam txts that automatically deduct minutes off of pay-as-you-go plans. My Mom, who is definitely not a technically inclined woman, was distraught to learn that simply by reading the txt messages she was getting she was having all her minutes she'd purchased used up. I dont think it matters if you read them or not. once it is delivered to your phone, you are charged. I don't have a pay-as-you-go phone, but I NEVER read text messages, and I don't get charged for them. | |
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 |  |  |  | | Re: death to spammers! said by lefty1:said by fuziwuzi:They should also do something about the spam txts that automatically deduct minutes off of pay-as-you-go plans. My Mom, who is definitely not a technically inclined woman, was distraught to learn that simply by reading the txt messages she was getting she was having all her minutes she'd purchased used up. I dont think it matters if you read them or not. once it is delivered to your phone, you are charged. I don't have a pay-as-you-go phone, but I NEVER read text messages, and I don't get charged for them. Are you sure you do not have a TXT plan included with your voice plan? I could have sworn you get charged the second it hits your phone whether you read it or not. I could be wrong though. | |
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 |  |  fuziwuziNot born yesterdayPremium join:2005-07-01 Atlanta, GA | said by taar:said by fuziwuzi:They should also do something about the spam txts that automatically deduct minutes off of pay-as-you-go plans. My Mom, who is definitely not a technically inclined woman, was distraught to learn that simply by reading the txt messages she was getting she was having all her minutes she'd purchased used up. One message alone deducted 100 minutes. I told her to simply not read ANY txt messages, nobody she knows is txt'ing her so just ignore them. I set her phone to not alert her to incoming messages. So spammers have made what could be a useful system (txt'ing) into something that must be ignored. I dont think it matters if you read them or not. Once it is delivered to your phone, you are charged. No, at least on my Mom's the minutes are deducted only when you open the message. I've looked at these messages, the charge isn't from the carrier but somehow these spammers are generating messages that when opened transfer minutes from the recipients account to the spammer's account. I don't know how it works but I called the carrier (Trackfone) and they said there was nothing they could do about it. For instance, one message I looked at, as soon as I clicked the "Read" button, 20 minutes were deducted from my Mom's account. These are not standard text messages, obviously... they've figured out how to swindle minutes (which turns into money) from unsuspecting users. | |
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 pokesphIt Is Almost FastPremium join:2001-06-25 Sacramento, CA kudos:1 | sms no txt spm on my nextel cept frm my bff Jill. | |
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 swhx7Premium join:2006-07-23 Elbonia | We need "sender pays" Is it really going to be any better when the the phone companies manage to block outside spam, and send their own instead? They will then be advertising at you (selling you to marketers) - and making you pay for it. This lucrative prospect is the only reason they restrain spam at all.
What's wanted is a sender-pays rule. No one should be able to impose costs on anyone else without the other person's consent. And as the article indicates, you can't always know whether the text or call is one you want before opening/answering.
European cellphone customers have sender-pays, and wonder why Americans put up with an "everyone pays" rule. And the phone companies know that if people start noticing the injustice of "everyone pays", they'll demand sender-pays and the companies won't get away with double-charging anymore. | |
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 josephm join:2000-10-23 Ridgewood, NY | sender pays I agree with Swhx7 should be the sender pays , I go very often in Italy and the sender pays I can;t understand why here nobody ever complain about it. Now is time to change people should wake up and complain .
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 |  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ kudos:4 | Re: sender pays said by josephm:I agree with Swhx7 should be the sender pays , I go very often in Italy and the sender pays I can;t understand why here nobody ever complain about it. Now is time to change people should wake up and complain . What is worse is t-mobile WILL NOT shut off text messaging so the receive gets to pay for this crap. -- When I gez aju zavateh na nalechoo more new yonooz tonigh molinigh - Ken Lee | |
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| Re: sender pays said by dvd536:said by josephm:I agree with Swhx7 should be the sender pays , I go very often in Italy and the sender pays I can;t understand why here nobody ever complain about it. Now is time to change people should wake up and complain . What is worse is t-mobile WILL NOT shut off text messaging so the receive gets to pay for this crap. I don't get any txt spam on my sidekick. Not a single one. However, I'd love a "sender pays" system. Then I could send txt to my dad, who would normally have to pay 15-20 cents for the message. On my sidekick plan only voice costs extra, so that'd work out perfect. | |
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 |  |  | | said by dvd536:said by josephm:I agree with Swhx7 should be the sender pays , I go very often in Italy and the sender pays I can;t understand why here nobody ever complain about it. Now is time to change people should wake up and complain . What is worse is t-mobile WILL NOT shut off text messaging so the receive gets to pay for this crap. Was able to disable text messaging from the T-Mobile website, but not much can be done for all the telemarketers who call and say this is not a telemarketer!
Personally, I think text messaging is totally stupid. Why would I want to waste so much time typing on some half sized keyboard, when all cell phones that I know of have voice mail, if the person doesn't answer? -- The Firefox alternative. »www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/ | |
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 | | Sprint! That's why I love my Unlimited Incoming Plan with Sprint. The majority of my calls are incoming and it doesn't come out of my minutes with this plan. Doesn't matter what time it is either. | |
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 Smith6612Premium,MVM join:2008-02-01 North Tonawanda, NY kudos:21 | No spam... No spam here on any of our Verizon Wireless phones... the only TXTs we get are from Verizon telling us our bill.
Back when we used to have Sprint, we never got any spam either. | |
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 | | t - mobile I'm one of the remaining holdouts I guess in that I do not subscribe to text messaging. Unfortunately being a t-mobile customer I get it anyway and also the joy of calling a CSR every month to get 15 cent to $1.50 credits on my bill for incoming spam. They claim they can't disable it or give me credit, but I always get the bill reduced (including tax) after I waste enough time elevating the situation to a manager (average about 10-15 minutes calling 611). You have to be really persistent and even hang up and get a different CSR. They are raking in the money from spam and they know it. Most people don't have the time or desire to fight for such amounts. I will be leaving t-mobile for good as soon a the contract expires, which isn't soon enough. | |
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 |  sivranBack to Opera againPremium join:2003-09-15 Arlington, TX kudos:1 | Re: t - mobile Funny that. I get no txt spam. | |
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 |  |  | | Re: t - mobile I never get any text spam either, and I have T-Mobile. | |
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| Re: t - mobile I rarely do get spam texts from T-Mobile...once in a blue moon. And when I do, I just call customer service and they're usually nice enough to give me some freebies in order to compensate for the spam. They can't give credit but freebies aren't too shabby at all.
SMS isn't worth the extra $100+ it adds to the bill every year. -- Please use all available doors...you have 33 to choose from. | |
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 |  |  |  |  | | Re: t - mobile I get SMS spam maybe once every two months. Makes me no nevermind, because I have unlimited texting. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: t - mobile Here's one I got on T-Mobil. We couldn't figure out how they planned to make money off of this. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  cbs228Geeks Of The World, Unite join:2000-09-04 Saint Louis, MO | Re: t - mobile This looks like a typical "pump and dump" stock scam. DCNM is a stock symbol—see google finance, but whatever you do don't buy it. Essentially, the spammer is hoping that people will buy a bunch of this stock so he can cash in at inflated prices, essentially taking your money in the process. Wikipedia has a nice article about Microcap stock fraud that explains what he's trying to do. -- At our school, we don't earn a degree when we graduatewe earn π/180 radians!
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