  LokerPremium
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Fargo, ND | tin foil hats FTW! tin foil is far more effective....both in performance and cost... | |
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 | | | Re: tin foil hats FTW! Actually, tin foil is the WORST thing you can use. The foil actually focuses the radiation on the brain. Far better to use a full faraday cage (copper is best) to protect yourself.
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| | | | Re: tin foil hats FTW! Maybe in its flat form. But when you take the flat tin foil and form a hat with it, its new shape allows for the deflection of all EMF including mind probes from aliens and major league baseball. | |
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join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA | Re: tin foil hats FTW! Well, yes, except for radiation emanating from directly below the hat. In other words, that guy who told you where to put your cellphone was trying to cause the cellphone radiation to be concentrated within your tinfoil hat....
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| |  JammerMan79Premium,VIP
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kudos:10 | great link... freaking hilarious | |
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| | | | Actually i think embedding brass mesh in your walls would do the trick. | |
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| | | peltecs
join:2004-10-18
Los Angeles, CA | Re: tin foil hats FTW! what about a hermetically sealed lead box?  | |
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|  PolarBear03The bear formerly known as aaron8301Premium
join:2005-01-03 | Tin foil is almost impossible to find. Almost all foil is made from aluminum.  | |
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| | | Using a cellphone and living next to one of those transmission towers are entirely different circumstances. People have developed cancer from living close to power lines, even though they haven't proved that the victims developed cancer at a higher rate than from the general population. But then, it took them 50 years to even admit cigaretes cause cancer. It'll be curious how many cell phone users develop brain tumors over the next 20 years. | |
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| | | Tin foil should be cut in strips equal to a 1/4 wavelength relation to the center frequency you are trying to reflect.
PFD | |
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| | Well why are they only worried about Wi-Fi ? People Are DUMB ASSES the amount of electromagnetic radiation from Wi-Fi should be the least of there worries when we have thins like say the sun, radios, phones, cell phones, tv, microwaves, radar, light bulbs, and any thing else that uses electricity. it all produces EM radiation. maybe the should find a big cave and go live there.
Stupid people should be shot. | |
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| | | Re: Well why are they only worried about Wi-Fi ? At least she was consistent and ditched other devices. She's the first to really take it all the way, which I salute! Angel guidance consultant lady probably uses a microwave and baby monitor.... | |
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| | RadioDoc58ef2c0Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11 | Re: Well why are they only worried about Wi-Fi ? If Angel Guidance Consultant Lady lives in Naperville (and she does) she's probably yapping away on that cell phone every day while she crawls along in her 9 MPG SUV on route 59.
This one, however, seems to be suffering more from a PR deficiency which she hopes to correct with this little adventure.
"her husband, a writer and environmental consultant"
Hmmm...wonder if he sells carbon paint and silver nets...
Painting the walls with an RF-absorbing paint is a start, but you have to also do the ceiling and floor. And what about those areas left covered in clothing? Does she develop a reaction there too or just to areas she's probably sunburned a hundred times.
Or better put by a commenter in the originally linked story:
said by Dunston, New York, NY USA :
She is doing exactly what her husband wants - drumming up clients for his consulting business. The human body is not sensitive enough to electromagnetic radiation at the levels and frequencies put out by Wi-Fi, cell phones, and microwaves to cause her symptoms. She either has allergies to something detectable or this is a huge scam. -
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| | | | | Re: Well why are they only worried about Wi-Fi ? said by RadioDoc:said by Dunston, New York, NY USA :
She either has allergies to something detectable or this is a huge scam. Or she has talked herself into these symptoms. The human mind can be a very powerful tool. When a person seriously thinks that they have an illness, symptoms for that illness can manifest themselves (or seem to to that person). This woman is probably so completely convinced that she is allergic to WiFi symptoms that her body is manifesting symptoms. | |
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| | | | | | Re: Well why are they only worried about Wi-Fi ? said by Jason Levine:This woman is probably so completely convinced that she is allergic to WiFi symptoms that her body is manifesting symptoms. I'm not usually one to reply to my own posts, but I just coincidentally came across a Wall Street Journal article that read:
said by »www.postgazette.com/pg/07033/758973-115.stm :The power of the mind also shows up in conditions that involve the immune system. Exposing people to what they thought was poison ivy caused them to develop a real rash, a 1998 study found, and giving people what they thought was a caffeinated drink (but was decaf) raised their heart rates just as real caffeine does. Now replace the fake Poison Ivy with the suspected presence of WiFi signals and the normal expected reaction one gets from Poison Ivy with an expectation of a similar reaction to WiFi signals and you could easily explain away this woman's reaction.
Of course, the best way to test this would be to have the woman enter a series of rooms. Each room would be contained within its own Faraday cage (to prevent outside radiation sources from spoiling the experiment). Some rooms would have WiFi enabled (via a normal WiFi router hidden from view) and some wouldn't. Neither the woman, nor any researchers she interacted with would know which rooms had WiFi and which wouldn't. She would be tracked through these rooms and would be both physically observed, would have vital signs (Blood pressure, heart rate, etc) taken while in the rooms, and would fill out a short survey about how she felt in each of the rooms as she was in it. When she was done, the data could be compiled. If any link between WiFi rooms and her physical reactions existed, it would show up in the data. Otherwise, other things cause her reactions. | |
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| Vadork
join:2005-09-01
Winnebago, IL | I would not rule anything out yet. To most of the population Wifi could be harmless. But I bet its harmful to people that are sensitive.
She’s not a nut job. Just someone that is sensitive to EMF...
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join:2005-09-01
Winnebago, IL | Re: Well why are they only worried about Wi-Fi ? Woops type >.> To most of the population Wifi would be harmless. | |
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| | RadioDoc58ef2c0Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11 | I'm hypersensitive to blithering idiots and people who hide their real motive behind "diseases" and "conditions". BAN THEM ALL!
Let's remove them from the environment before we start listening to this nonsense.
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| | | said by computerman0:People Are DUMB ASSES the amount of electromagnetic radiation from Wi-Fi should be the least of there worries when we have thins like say the sun, radios, phones, cell phones, tv, microwaves, radar, light bulbs, and any thing else that uses electricity. it all produces EM radiation. maybe the should find a big cave and go live there. Stupid people should be shot. Does this include everyone involved with American Idol as well?
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| | DesdinovaPremium
join:2003-01-26
Gaithersburg, MD | Re: Well why are they only worried about Wi-Fi ? "Does this include everyone involved with American Idol as well?"
ESPECIALLY people involved with American Idol!! | |
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|  CurtesyFlushBababooey, fafafooey, tatatoothy.Premium
join:2002-08-23
Fontana, CA
kudos:2 | said by computerman0:People Are DUMB ASSES the amount of electromagnetic radiation from Wi-Fi should be the least of there worries when we have thins like say the sun, radios, phones, cell phones, tv, microwaves, radar, light bulbs, and any thing else that uses electricity. it all produces EM radiation. maybe the should find a big cave and go live there. Stupid people should be shot. So should people who don't understand punctuation, spelling, the proper use of homonyms, and when to capitalize.
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join:2004-06-21
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1 edit | lol she better kill her self cause She is putting off infrared waves
Also the last time i checked is that, the "SUN" is give off Radiation | |
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|  John GaltForward, MarchPremium
join:2004-09-30
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kudos:3 | Re: lol  | |
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| |  TechieZeroTools Are Using MePremium
join:2002-01-25
Gibsonton, FL | Re: lol ROFL I am stealing these links and pictures. | |
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 Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium
join:2002-03-03
USA
kudos:4 |  Docs should be looking for other causes
Poisoning
Chemical irritation from soaps, makeup, etc
Psychosomatic mental illnesses
Next, they'll be looking to get cellphones banned in their community like banning smoking everywhere.
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| Forge
join:2001-05-28
Lincoln, RI | Re: Docs should be looking for other causes you do have a point here, although i thought this combination was ironic,
wife = a health spa manager
Husband= environmental consultant
the wife probably has access to who knows what for chemicals in soaps and what not at the health spa. | |
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| | Just point out where this woman lives... ...so that I can steer WAY clear of her!
While Wi-Fi may in fact cause health issues, they are probably a much lower risk than being around people like this woman. | |
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| PolarBear03The bear formerly known as aaron8301Premium
join:2005-01-03 | Re: Just point out where this woman lives... Just install a couple of these outside your house like I have and the nutjob won't go near your property! | |
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| | | | Re: Just point out where this woman lives... Oh, she will. The she will stick a hot frying pan on her forehead before she sleeps that night. The next day she will try to have you arrested and file a lawsuit. | |
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|  Jerm
join:2000-04-10
Richland, WA
kudos:2 | Lets blame WiFi! I think this women's comments about Starbucks is extremely dumb:
Average Wifi - 35mW
Average Cell phone - 2,000mW
Average Microwave - 100,000mW
So yes, LETS ALL BLAME THE WIFI! ITS GOTTA BE THAT! | |
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join:2004-05-13
Prince George, BC
kudos:10 | Re: Lets blame WiFi! said by Jerm:I think this women's comments about Starbucks is extremely dumb: Average Wifi - 35mW Average Cell phone - 2,000mW Average Microwave - 100,000mW So yes, LETS ALL BLAME THE WIFI! ITS GOTTA BE THAT! slight correction
Average Wifi - 35mW (accross the house)
Average Cell phone - 2,000mW (against your freaking head)
Average Microwave - 100,000mW (across the room)
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| | | | | Re: Lets blame WiFi! Cellphones are 200-500mW... the most powerful cellphone I have seen was an old Analog "Bag-Phone" which was 1.5W (or 1,500mW)
And Microwaves, are not 100,000mw, but 1,000,000mW (1000W).. But then again, they are in metal boxes, with a "Faraday cage" like grill on the front | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | Digital cellphones arent ever over 500mw, usually around 200mw. | |
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| KearnstdElf WizardPremium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: Just point out where this woman lives... you figure wifi isnt even a watt and the microwave is on average 1.4Kw
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join:2000-03-14
Dallas, TX |  bwahaha
Stupid people never cease to amaze. | |
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 intellerSociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK | we need a good war/disease/famine to get rid of the weak. Darwin never meant for stupid people like this to survive. | |
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| laizure
join:2006-08-13
Mountain View, CA | Re: we need a good war/disease/famine I am a Licensed Nurse, this whole thing is crap. Notice that huge smile on her face, looks like one who's just in this for the notoriety, fame, attention, and perhaps money.
Better hope she doesn't need to goto the hosp or the Dr otherwise she will swell up like a sponge. | |
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| |  BonezXBasement DwellerPremium
join:2004-04-13
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1 edit | Re: we need a good war/disease/famine said by laizure:I am a Licensed Nurse, this whole thing is crap. Notice that huge smile on her face, looks like one who's just in this for the notoriety, fame, attention, and perhaps money. Better hope she doesn't need to goto the hosp or the Dr otherwise she will swell up like a sponge. walk within 15 feet of an MRI and you will feel "odd" even with it powered down.
I can put my router on my head and not even notice it's there.
stand near a cellphone tower, and you get an odd feeling from it too.
point of all this, if they use a cellphone or ever go in for an MRI, they should be stopped to prevent an "alergic reaction" to the EM fields generated by the equipment. | |
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| | | | | Re: we need a good war/disease/famine I've been around both and don't remember any "odd" feeling. You sir, are indirectly supporting the fud. | |
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| | | | | | Re: we need a good war/disease/famine And even if either one made people feel "odd", an MRI machine or a cell phone tower are orders of magnitude more powerful than a wireless network. | |
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| | Gen. Buck Turgidson warned us... About polluting our precious vital bodily fluids and essences.
Now see what's happened! First flouride, now The Invisible Scourge of Wi-Fi!
Oh! The Huge Manetee! | |
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|  MchartFirst There.
join:2004-01-21
Gurnee, IL | Re: Gen. Buck Turgidson warned us... That wasn't buck. You are thinking of Gen. Jack D. Ripper. | |
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join:2001-07-26
Clinton, NC | paranoia! mayhem! confusion! My work here is done... I sure hope these people don't find out about the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide.
Http://www.dhmo.org/ | |
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| | Only affects outer layer of skin? Since EMF can go through her body, shouldn't she be completely cooked on the inside also? This isn't like poison ivy on your skin giving you a rash, these are waves that go completely through your body. She should be burnt from end to end. | |
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| laizure
join:2006-08-13
Mountain View, CA | Re: Only affects outer layer of skin? The lady is stupid and needs to be checked for all of the following. She certainly looked healthy in that photo.
* Obesity
* Allergic reaction
* Insect bite allergy
* Insect sting allergy
* Drug allergy
* Anaphylaxis
* Dental abscess
* Dental infection
* Sinus infection
* Sinusitis
* Telangiectasia
* Hypothyroidism
* Hyperthyroidism
* Cushing's syndrome
* Erysipelas
* Swollen cheeks
* Swollen parotid glands
* Mumps
* Acromegaly
* Angioneurotic edema
* Nephrotic syndrome
* Glomerulonephritis
* Edema
* Eye swelling
* Facial trauma
* Facial burn
* Subcutaneous emphysema
* SVC thrombosis
* Orbital cellulitis
* Perioorbital cellulitis
* Trichinosis
* C1 inhibitor deficiency
* Hypoalbuminemia
* Carotico-cavernous fistula
* Cavernous sinus thrombosis
* Dermatomyositis
* swollen cheek
* swollen parotid glands
* Cardiac edema
* Mediastinal neoplasm
* Bronchial neoplasm
* Sebaceous cyst
* Dermoid cyst
* Meningocele
* Hemangioma
* Lipoma
* Fibroma
* Neurofibroma
* Rodent ulcer
* Boils
* Carbuncle
* Alveolar abscess
* Dental caries
* Anthrax
* Vaccinia
* Primary syphilitic sore
* Urticaria | |
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| | | | Re: Only affects outer layer of skin? Arent those the side effects of happy fun ball? | |
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| | |  ThespisI'm not an actor, but I play one on TV.Premium
join:2004-08-03
Keller, TX | Re: Only affects outer layer of skin? HEY!
Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball... | |
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join:2002-06-09
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kudos:6 | Go Debbie ! You are a great example of the evolutionary path of Homo-Sapient. GJ! | |
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| | (topic offline) Hmmm
This entire topic was removed, either temporarily, or permanently.
stated reason was: Trolling, off-topic | |
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| | She should've used copper mesh it would have costed about 500K but hey it keeps the waves out | |
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| | Blue-ray blinded my Grandma I'm just waiting for the next Hilarius law suit : ) | |
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join:2004-01-21
Gurnee, IL | She seems to be missing the fact that The sun gives off way more hazardous radiation then an 802.11 access point will. | |
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join:2002-01-23
Croswell, MI | Blah! Dslreports has failed me once again, they put a story like this up and didnt post a picture.
Id like to see a picture of the house and the owner as that would probably explain a ton.
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join:2003-01-17 | LOL! RIGHT! Does Wi-Fi signals make her sneeze? What a moron. | |
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| | Seems Like a Reasonable Action I can identify with her, every time I see a red door I want to paint it black.
Thank you! I'll be here all week. | |
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 DesiPremium
join:2002-05-05
Kanata, ON | Test her! Should be fairly easy to figure out if she's "telling the truth". Setup 5-6 different rooms far from each other. Ensure that some have wifi signals present, others do not. Make sure there is no way to figure it out visually. See which rooms make her get an "allergic reaction" and which ones do not...
Of course, if she was just doing it for attention/money, she'd never agree. That too would prove she's BS'ing.
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join:2005-10-22
00000 | Black Coffee Holy McDonalds. I better not spill my cold coffee on my lap then sue Mcey DEES. Paint? ....Wifi....um..  | |
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| | | Err I can sense Wi-fi in a small cubic area. Not in a large one, but a small one, like an apartment. Not "allergic" to it, I think that's impossible. But I am definitely sensitive to it. I run a G router in my home and use a wireless enabled laptop and I can definitely feel the difference when I'm not at home versus when I am. It's subtle but it's there. | |
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| |  wmcbrine213 251 145 96
join:2002-12-30
Laurel, MD | Re: Err BS. Do a double-blind study of this "ability" of yours, and then come back. | |
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| | | | | Re: Err I wouldn't call it an ability. I would call it a sensitivity to certain types of radiation. Incandescent light is the same way; if I walk into a room where incandescent light is being used, I can feel it; if the light is turned off, I feel it. It's been tested. Almost seems like I can feel the heat being generated from the bulb, though from across the room that seems unlikely.
LCD light, LEDs, flourescent, and "natural" light like sunlight is different, I don't feel a thing. | |
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