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|  No brainer - merger should be allowed
The key issue appears to be whether or not the satellite-radio marketplace is its own separate entity -- XM and Sirius are the only national license holders -- or part of a larger audio marketplace that includes terrestrial radio, cable radio, Internet radio and downloads. It is obvious that satellite radio competes with all those other audio sources and is in fact losing the battle(which is mostly in cars) due to iPod interfaces, media harddrives in cars, digital AM & FM in newer cars, etc.
The only reason this merger wasn't already approved is because the radio network companies(like Clear Channel) don't want more competition than they already have.
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IgnorantMeat
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| Re: No brainer - merger should be allowed I agree completely. Clear Channel and Infinty Broadcasting don't want anymore competion. I am a subscriber to sirius and the sound qauilty is better than any over the air broadcast and I can listen to any of the channels I want to on the internet, save for some of the sports channels. | |
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Neyland85
join:2003-02-04
North Augusta, SC
 ·AT&T Southeast
| Re: No brainer - merger should be allowed Well I have XM and am frustrated by the addition of commercials on some channels. And the content of the commercials leaves a lot to be desired too.
However, the FCC has said that Sat TV and Cable TV compete in the same market place. It would only be logical that Sat radio would be viewed in the same way. With that said, not much in gov is logical. | |
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MattE
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| Re: No brainer - merger should be allowed said by Neyland85  :Well I have XM and am frustrated by the addition of commercials on some channels. And the content of the commercials leaves a lot to be desired too. However, the FCC has said that Sat TV and Cable TV compete in the same market place. It would only be logical that Sat radio would be viewed in the same way. With that said, not much in gov is logical. The channels with commercials are ClearChannel owned channels. ClearChannel invested a significant chunk of money to help XM get off the ground in exchange for frequency to broadcast on.
If this goes through, that should go away. | |
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Neyland85
join:2003-02-04
North Augusta, SC | Re: No brainer - merger should be allowed Actually many of the talk channels have commercials. Problem is I listen to more of the talk channels than the music. | |
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Philly burbs | Re: No brainer - merger should be allowed So, then I have no need to pitch you hard on cream or colon cleanser.
Or, I could TELL YOU ABOUT THE DISCOUNT, HARRY!!!!
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join:2006-10-09
Providence, RI
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Satellite is losing the ware because of price, lack of contact, and commercials.
Some people say the price isn't that much. BS. For the average joe $13/month isn't to bad. Now start adding the additional radios. See how quickly the price gets higher. It can get out of hand quickly.
Huh?? Yes additional radio's do cost more. Just like an additional cable or dish receiver cost's more. Satellite offers 100% commercial free music (well at least Sirius does). Can FM compare to that? | |
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stickfigure
join:2002-06-11
El Cajon, CA
| What then would your solution be to keep these companies in business?
»finance.google.com/finance?fstype=ii&q=SIRI
»finance.google.com/finance?fstyp···DAQ:XMSR
Again, with the obvious fact that satelitte radio competes with other media mentioned above this is NOT a monopoly.
Should prices go up (doubtful since the government is requiring Sirius/XM to create a business plan that they approve prior to allowing the merger) choose one of the other forms of media to listen to. | |
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kfsutops
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| Re: No brainer - merger should be allowed said by stickfigure :What then would your solution be to keep these companies in business? » finance.google.com/finance?fstype=ii&q=SIRI» finance.google.com/finance?fstyp···DAQ:XMSRAgain, with the obvious fact that satelitte radio competes with other media mentioned above this is NOT a monopoly. Should prices go up (doubtful since the government is requiring Sirius/XM to create a business plan that they approve prior to allowing the merger) choose one of the other forms of media to listen to. 1. Get the both out of the hardware business. The fact that radios are not inner-changeable leaves people to be stuck (for the most part) with one or the other. If there was no hardware lock in, people could leave. This would make both products better since there will be "true" competition.
2. There business model should change to something every other company in the world has to do. You can't spend money if you don't have it. Stop paying Oprah for a channel that she never is on. Same thing for Martha. At least Howard and Opie&Anthony actually broadcast on their channels daily.
And you can say what you want about prices not going up. They will. Make no mistake. People are nuts to think that they really compete with the iPod and other gadgets in the the car. This is ridiculous. Look around (I mean not at your little group of techies) and tell me how many people really have iPod connectors in their car?
The problem with both services is that the pricing has still not hit the sweet spot. It's like all other technologies out there. The early adopters will pay for it no matter. People that drive a lot have satellite. The average person is not going to spend $40+(for the first radio) a quarter to listen to it for there less than 30 minute commute. I spend close to $100 per quarter for satellite radio. I keep thinking "WTF am I doing?".
The value is still not there for mass consumption.
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March 2nd, @05:04PM
| Re: No brainer - merger should be allowed said by kfsutops : Look around (I mean not at your little group of techies) and tell me how many people really have iPod connectors in their car? I know lots of people who work for a local stereo shop and every single teenage girl and teenage guy comes in to add an iPod connection to their car if the factory didn't offer the option. So, LOTS of people have them or the cheapie FM radio iPod tuners.
MP3 players absolutely do compete with XM Radio.
Also, how in the hell do you spend $100/quarter for Satellite radio? How many do you have? I have two XM radios and I spend about $40/quarter. | |
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stickfigure
join:2002-06-11
El Cajon, CA
| Re: No brainer - merger should be allowed 1. I don't quite understand what you're trying to say here. If you think that by dropping any hardware it would make a big enough difference to turn them around to a positive operating expense, show me some numbers to back it up. I'm not sure why I can't leave Sirius right now just because I have a Sirius receiver... Having a hardware product that allows you to receive either signal is great but how the hell does that equate to giving a user the freedom of being able to leave a company???
2. Quit focusing only on IPOD connections as being the only "competition" to Satelitte. As mentioned above, there is still free radio, which is available in just about any car on the road today. As well as more cars coming with an on-board hard drive to store music. My wife has an IPOD connection in her car and as the majority of new cars are coming equipped with them it's still viable competition.
3. As I stated below, I believe Mel Karmazin makes a very good point for keeping prices either where they're at or lower with their a la carte offerings:
"Q: If you're allowed to merge, will you use the monopoly power to raise monthly fees above the current $12.95?
A: If we want to get more than the 10% of the population currently subscribing, we have to make it financially attractive, and there are still so many people that haven't been convinced that it's worth their while to pay for radio. If we can't get more subscribers at $12.95, what would make us think that we can get more at $15.95? "
Lastly, you contradict yourself. You said, "The average person is not going to spend $40+(for the first radio) a quarter to listen to it for there less than 30 minute commute." but yet you still think prices will rise? If they do, DON'T buy the service. You again can either turn your radio to an AM/FM station, plug in your IPOD, play your mp3/wma files on your cars' hard drive or if you listen at home, go to www.yourinternetradiochannel.com. However based on your posts, I would expect you to keep the service since, "I spend close to $100 per quarter for satellite radio. I keep thinking "WTF am I doing?" and then bitch about it. | |
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@crainent.com | I am Sirius Sat. subscriber. Absolutely love it!!! I have four receivers on my account and only pay about $35.00/month. Not sure where some people are getting their pricing from. | |
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MattE
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| said by TK Junk Mail :The key issue appears to be whether or not the satellite-radio marketplace is its own separate entity -- XM and Sirius are the only national license holders -- or part of a larger audio marketplace that includes terrestrial radio, cable radio, Internet radio and downloads. It is obvious that satellite radio competes with all those other audio sources and is in fact losing the battle(which is mostly in cars) due to iPod interfaces, media harddrives in cars, digital AM & FM in newer cars, etc. The only reason this merger wasn't already approved is because the radio network companies(like Clear Channel) don't want more competition than they already have. I completely agree. The FCC and Justice Department need to sit down and decide one way or another and stop listening to ClearChannel. (Who came into my city and bought up all the radio stations, then turned them all into Top 25 Pop music stations) | |
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| Re: No brainer - merger should be allowed i feel your pain. we have 2 or 3 top 25 pop stations...a hanful of country music stations... and an oldies station (that plays oldies from time to time).
it's horrid. i can only imagine how much worse it'd be to live in a more urban area with 943750275203752435 clear channel owned radio stations ... i can see it now
*driving along* hm.. whats on the radio... *click* *click* *click* *click* *click* *click* Alright, that was a waste of calories *turns the radio off*
at least out here it only takes about 10 seconds to surf through all the radio stations and decide there's not a damn thing on. | |
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rosco
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Catskill, NY | what happened? I thought I heard that part of the conditions of XM and Sirius being granted licenses in the first place was that they could not merge.
What happened with that? | |
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| Monopoly? Does the term "monopoly" really apply to a non-essential service? XM/Sirius is by far the best existing concept for "broadcast" radio (given that [almost] all of the "local" AM/FM stations are now really just outlets for national programming "warehouses").
Long live progressive radio (if you can find it).
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join:2002-02-01
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| Re: Monopoly? It's interesting that the major entity lobbying against the Sirius/XM merger is Clear Channel.
Clear Channel complaining about someone else's "monopoly" is laughable. And Sirius/XM won't be a monopoly, anyway. It will compete against terrestrial radio(with all the new and wonderful HD Radio stations!) and mp3 players.
If instead one of the two companies went out of business, consumers would be left with the same number of choices and the remaining satellite radio company would be under no obligation to support their former competitor's radios. Sirius/XM has pledged to support all current radios, and they've also offered a la carte pricing, which will bring their prices down from $13(which is too high) to $6.99 for 50 channels. | |
| Gilitar
join:2000-11-20
Mobile, AL | No more mergers Look at what mergers have gotten us. Sprint-Nextel floundering, AT&T raising prices, Exxon Mobil and buddies gouging us, and the list goes on.
Mergers are NOT good for the consumer. | |
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join:2000-11-20
Mobile, AL
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| Re: No more mergers said by liquidman :I think what people don't realize is that if they aren't allowed to merge, one of these companies will go out of business and there will end up being the only satellite radio company. Pure propaganda from the Sirius and XM. If one of them goes belly up a private equity firm or another corporate entity will buy them for pennies on the dollar. | |
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join:2004-01-26
Navarre, FL
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| Re: No more mergers said by Gilitar :a private equity firm or another corporate entity will buy them for pennies on the dollar. And then break up the company to sell off assets piecemeal to the remaining sat radio co and perhaps terrestrial broadcast companies.
Oh, and mergers can be good for consumers. Blanket statement however, are often not. | |
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Wills
join:2001-01-03
Port Charlotte, FL
| said by Gilitar :Mergers are NOT good for the consumer. Show me one merger that was aimed at the customer to begin with.
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| fillibustering Back in the day when a radio license wasn't required, anyone could have a radio station. Then the FCC came along to provide direction. Unfortunately, they've missed the mark on their duty in this case. The merger will be allowed and should be allowed. The fact that a 5% market share represents any sort of monopoly in today's media is a total farce. More people are turning to IPods than satellite radio. Get off your butt FCC and address this approval! | |
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gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
·Cruzio Internet
| Re: fillibustering If Sirius and XM radio can't abide by the terms set when they were granted their licenses, let them go bankrupt and re-organize their business strategy.
If they cannot survive, then the licenses should revert back to the gov to become available for some other technology that can.
The IPod sales figures have nothing to do with this and is just being used as smoke and mirrors to get some corps agenda advanced.
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merge already
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| merge already you need to look at this merger the same as the blu-ray vs hd-dvd issue. take away the companies and look at the two products. shortly we will start to see the benefits as consumers for the push to that one high def format in blu-ray - lower player costs, software advancements and the publics less confusion toward that technology, not to mention no battle for movies releasing on different formats. satellite radio will only survive as one combined product because of internal battles for content and separate r&d. sat radio needs to quit fighting itself before we lose it altogether. sat radio is one product, and with a concentrated effort will only benefit the consumer through the competition it will create with regular radio, ipods and so on. maybe then terrestrial radio will be forced to update its horrid programming and even sat radio having to increase its portability to compete with ipods. if at all consumers do not like the merger, and what it brings, then the market will deal with it when those consumers unsubscribe.
as far as the cable argument - if the public all gave up cable i bet you would start to see fees lower. go buy an antenna and get hd programming for free, sign up for netflix and get all the cable programs when they come out on dvd, watch them on the internet. cable is not a necessity. the problem with cable is people have made it an untrue necessity.
the anti-merger groups hold no water on the sirius/xm merger - simply...there is a reason they all seem backed by the NAB and special interest. the FCC and DOJ should be ashamed with the injustic going on - clearly not looking out for the average consumer. | |
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Neyland85
join:2003-02-04
North Augusta, SC | Re: merge already How about register or login already.... | |
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Steve Mehs
Go Sabres
join:2005-07-16
Marilla, NY
| I always find SDARS discussions on this site funny. Most people have no real clue on the industry.
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Satellite is losing the ware because of price, lack of contact, and commercials.
Some people say the price isn't that much. BS. For the average joe $13/month isn't to bad. Now start adding the additional radios. See how quickly the price gets higher. It can get out of hand quickly.
Commercials? With XM and Sirius I have access to 138 channels of COMMERCIAL FREE music.
Lack of content? Where on terrestrial radio can I find southern gospel, electronica, smooth electronica, lounge music, bluegrass, folk, alt country and even formats like oldies, which is disappearing and heavy metal. Not to mention wider playlists.
Cost? With 3 XM subscriptions, 2 Sirius subscriptions and Sirius Premium Internet Radio, I'm at $50 a month for radio. Worth every penny and more. I'd pay $100/month or more in a heartbeat just to keep the content I have access to right now.
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Well I have XM and am frustrated by the addition of commercials on some channels. And the content of the commercials leaves a lot to be desired too.
What commercials? You do realize XM was FORCED to put commercials on 4 of the music channels, right? You do realize the four channels that have commercials have commercial free clones, right?
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if at all consumers do not like the merger, and what it brings, then the market will deal with it when those consumers unsubscribe.
That's a pretty poor attitude. As a dual subscriber it's lose-lose. Yeah if it all goes down hill I'm free to cancel at anytime and quit paying and receiving service, but that doesn't help get me back what I lost. Cost is irrelevant, I love the choices I have with XM and Sirius, I do not want that to go away. If the merger happens, when I lose what I have I can never regain.
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as far as the cable argument - if the public all gave up cable i bet you would start to see fees lower. go buy an antenna and get hd programming for free, sign up for netflix and get all the cable programs when they come out on dvd, watch them on the internet. cable is not a necessity. the problem with cable is people have made it an untrue necessity.
OTA HD and Netflix don't give me Sabres hockey, Yankees baseball and my favorite shows they moment they air. Watching TV shows online sucks, I have a 42" Sony HDTV and a 55" Sony HDTV, yeah like I'd want to watch TV on a dinky 22" PC monitor.
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Neyland85
join:2003-02-04
North Augusta, SC
·AT&T Southeast
| Re: merge already I listen to 90% talk and news. The news I understand, it takes breaks and has commercials at the same time the TV feed does. I just get tired of all the AdamEve,MaleEnhancement,GetRichOnTheInternet,Credit,DayTrading commercials. That's about all they seem to play.
The music channels with commercials are ClearChannel. XM started new channels with the same music without commercials. Very nice of XM, but as I said, I only listen to about 10% of the time to these channels. | |
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Steve Mehs
Go Sabres
join:2005-07-16
Marilla, NY
| Re: merge already Besides the TV simulcasts, you have actual networks like ESPN Radio, Bloomberg Radio, C-SPAN Radio and Air America, where XM is just passing on the network feed. Then you have Clear Channel mish mash talk channels like Extreme XM, Talk Radio and America's Talk, the shows have commercials. The only XM in house talk channels are The Virus, MLB Home Plate, NHL Home Ice and Take 5 to name a few
Satellite radio was never about commercial free talk, and never promoted as such.
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| kd6cae
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Riverside, CA
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| Why should the companies merge anyway? why can't XM and Sirius remain as 2 separate companies? Why is it they have to merge in to one? I personally like XM's programming, and can't understand why it has to be that both providers suddenly feel this need to merge.
If we can have dish and DirecTV, then we can have Sirius and XM as separate companies. My fear is the companies will merge, and then some of the unique programming XM has, such as XM's annual "It" program, a look back at some of our favorite hit pop songs from the 30's to today, will be gone. So just keep the companies separate already, and let them have their unique programs. Now if they can merge without taking away unique programming, then fine, but that begs the question why were 2 separate sattelite radio services created to begin with, if they're just going to merge anyway? | |
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Mike23
join:2003-08-21
Altamont, NY | Re: Why should the companies merge anyway? The issue is that both companies are unable to gain a profit with the current situation and by merging, they can cut costs and not go bankrupt. | |
| FastiBook
join:2003-01-08
Newtown, PA | Yes. Please. It would allow greater service reliability, and future coverage increases. I can't wait. | |
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| Re: Yes. said by FastiBook :Please. It would allow greater service reliability, and future coverage increases. I can't wait. I am all for the merger as long as the those 'future coverage increases' include Alaska and Hawaii which currently are not supported by either brand. I believe this is one of the blocks that are currently holding this up. | |
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BreakBusters
@comcast.net | HD Radio? Hey HD radio is free why should anyone have to pay for radio, satellite or not? | |
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Steve Mehs
Go Sabres
join:2005-07-16
Marilla, NY
| Re: HD Radio? No thanks. Why would I want to listen to radio provided by the same companies who ruined regular analog radio? Free means it ain't worth jack shit. Clear Channel, CBS Radio and the rest can't even come up with a decent listening experience for their analog crap, why should I even consider HD Radio. HD Radio is a doomed faulire, and before anyone spouts off about now being backed by BMW and Ford, I say so what. Those are just two major players in the auto industry. Rewind to two weeks ago. Paramount and Universal, two major players in the movie industry backed HD DVD and look what happened in that industry. HD Radio will NEVER take off.
Willing to pay for something you can get for free should be a powerful statement on how much I reject the putrid bullshit put on terrestrial radio. Radio, YOU SHOULD pay for it! Why put up with free garbage when for a few bucks a month you can get something good and worthwhile. I'm sure NetZero still provideds free dial up access, why would I want that crap when I have 15Mb cable? I haven't listned to terrestrial radio in 5 years now, terrestrial radio in any for analog or digital is dead to me and millions of others.
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clrankin
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Purcellville, VA
| Let them merge, but with some conditions... I think I have a solution that might make 99% of the people on both sides of the merger issue happy. Allow XM and Sirius to merge, but place the following conditions on the merger:
1. Channel selection on the merged entity must represent the union of current channels on XM and Sirius. Now, some stations will overlap and be duplicates (XM and Sirius both have an '80s channel, for example). In this case, one of the duplicate channels could be eliminated, provided it is replaced with something else within one year.
2. Subscription prices on the merged entity must remain reasonable. For the next three years, XM and Sirius should have to agree to only implement subscription price increases that are equal to inflation. (Additional modest increases could be allowed if the entity starts including additional channels in its standard lineup.)
3. Both brands of satellite radios (XM and Sirius) should be supported by the new entity. (I'm not sure of the technology behind this, so it might be a moot point anyway-- just thought I'd mention it though.)
4. Coverage should be expanded to Alaska and Hawaii.
The fourth point could be optional, depending upon cost and logistics; the first three should be requirements. I think this would go a long way toward answering the concerns of those who are concerned about this being a monopoly as tiers, channels, and pricing would be maintained at fair levels for the next three years under this idea. People continue to get what they want, and likely get a better product as the sports programming on both radios would now be made available to all. (I've always wanted to listen to NFL games in the winter, but have been an XM subscriber for years and have not wanted to also buy a Sirius radio and subscription just for that.)
XM and Sirius would still benefit from this merger, as they would be able to reduce their combined operating budget and boost their bottom line. If one assumes that the installed subscriber base remains constant or increases over the three year period following the merger, this allows them to remain solvent and put together a comprehensive strategy for providing even more innovative programming in the future. On the surface, this sounds like a win-win situation to me.
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stickfigure
join:2002-06-11
El Cajon, CA
| Re: Let them merge, but with some conditions... Your conditions have already been met....
»www.usatoday.com/money/media/200···at_x.htm
Also, those who keep stating prices would increase, here's a great point made by Sirius CEO Mel Karmazin:
"Q: If you're allowed to merge, will you use the monopoly power to raise monthly fees above the current $12.95?
A: If we want to get more than the 10% of the population currently subscribing, we have to make it financially attractive, and there are still so many people that haven't been convinced that it's worth their while to pay for radio. If we can't get more subscribers at $12.95, what would make us think that we can get more at $15.95? " | |
| gower2352
join:2005-06-08
Weston, WV | i like XM the way it is If the merger goes through they better not kill off XM like G4 killed TechTV a few years ago. | |
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| Tiered Pricing Already Agreed I don't know if this was already mentioned in connection with the merger but
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Both companies have spent billions to acquire new subscribers and sign big name talent like Martha Stewart, Oprah Winfrey, and Howard Stern. The companies made an important concession to regulators late last year when they agreed to tiered pricing, where subscribers could pay less depending on how many and which channels they choose. FCC chairman Kevin Martin has long urged the much larger cable industry to adopt a tiered pricing model.
»www.informationweek.com/manageme···06901119
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Neyland85
join:2003-02-04
North Augusta, SC | Re: Tiered Pricing Already Agreed The bad thing about tiered pricing is exactly what's wrong with Cable tiered pricing. I'll end up paying more for what I currently listen to. | |
| stridr69
join:2003-05-19
San Luis Obispo, CA
| XM/Sirius As a XM sub, I'm not overly worried about the merger. I know my inno and Roady2 will continue to function for years to come. Why? Because those of us that have SatRad KNOW how good it is...and WELL worth the price of admission per month. I'm looking forward to having access to Sirius's NFL offering by 09/2008, and I'll add that to my service. Too bad Sirius customers won't have access to MLB this year, as I love listening to Brewer's baseball when they're at Miller Field just so I can hear Bob Uker call'in the play-by-play. And I'm an SF Giants fan. Also get LA Dodger baseball as well(Vin Scully is STILL good...over 50 years and counting).
SatRad isn't going dark-not by a long shot. It's just too good to have around. Ask a long haul trucker-what does he/she listen to? Yep, not always an I-Pod.
Alaska/Hawaii-need a separate Geo-stationary satellite to cover those states. Maybe the merger can provide this..let's hope so.
Us SatRad sub's need to make our voice loud and clear-DO the merger, and get on with it....
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Steve Mehs
Go Sabres
join:2005-07-16
Marilla, NY
| Re: XM/Sirius quote:
I'm looking forward to having access to Sirius's NFL offering by 09/2008, and I'll add that to my service. Too bad Sirius customers won't have access to MLB this year
Uh, you do know that if this sham of a merger actually happens, besides getting screwed many times over, you can't just fire up your Roady 2 or Inno an expect to hear the NFL. You'll need a new dual band radio. XM and Sirius already announced 10 channels from each service will be avalable on the other, but they haven't said which 10 channels. One of the channels may be NFL Radio, maybe not, but you will not get the entire NFL on your existing radios.
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Us SatRad sub's need to make our voice loud and clear-DO the merger, and get on with it....
Or make our voices loud and clear and speak up against it. Exxon/Mobil, HP/Compaq, Sprint/Nextel, when have consumer really won? I submitted my feelings about the XM/Sirus merger to the FCC last summer.
Why anyone thinks this merger is a good idea needs their head examined.
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| Re: XM/Sirius "Why anyone thinks this merger is a good idea needs their head examined"
lets see...maybe because one of these two companies wont be around much longer if it does not. the bottom line, they need to make a profit, and beating each other up isnt doing it. anyone who has both subscriptions and is against the merger needs their heads examined in my opinion. why would you not be for combining these companies to get one combined product with all the offerings, for less with no worrying of losing programming. why sit here and one year have hockey on xm then next sirius, then the back to xm.
i would like to see your argument on why no merger - please help me out on this one, and comparing it exxon/mobile just doesnt work. why should the gov't keep these two companies from combining resources, providing a better product, increase competition, and maybe make a profit. help us ignorant ones out. | |
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Maggs
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| Sirius Mel K. led regular radio, Infinity Broadcasting to the top of the charts, and he'll do it with satelite radio, the only problem is the 2 companies are bleeding cash, negative profit margins of 135%+. They can't go on bleeding cash forever, since the credit facilities they use to finance will end up getting uber expensive since the banks don't like risk where they are not the ones cheating. Take for instance, the subprime mortgage mess, the banks knew homeowners were morons and couldn't play, as my prof in class put it those were NINJA loans for a reason (No Income, No Job Arrangement). I really think homeowners should get their ass handed to them for the subprime mortgage mess, hand someone a real piece of reality, and they maybe they'll be a little more responsible next time.
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XM / Sirius Merger Extended
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Maybe theyll call me and force me to install it and turn on my radio again. heh.
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