  Mactronel Camino RealPremium
join:2001-12-16
CM94sv | Color me gone If that idiot Howard Stern gets shoved down my subscription throat.
I won't pay any kind of $ that supports that trash, I'll go back the terrestrial waste land and an MP3 player.
It is the competition, remember. 
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Lancaster, PA | Re: Color me gone said by Mactron:If that idiot Howard Stern gets shoved down my subscription throat. I won't pay any kind of $ that supports that trash, I'll go back the terrestrial waste land and an MP3 player. It is the competition, remember. neat. good riddance. | |
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That's irrational as saying, "if country music gets shoved down my throat with this merger, I'm gone". I have more choices to choose from and can listen to something else... | |
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| Re: Color me gone said by stickfigure:wow, 2 channels for howard stern out of god knows how many they'll have with the merger and you think they'll somehow shove him down your throat? You realize you can make the choice to listen to something else on the 100+ channels and that your radio doesn't just randomly switch to Stern and stay there? That's irrational as saying, "if country music gets shoved down my throat with this merger, I'm gone". I have more choices to choose from and can listen to something else... Not that I really care since I do not have either service but Howard Stern has a contract and has to be paid (unlike Country Music). That money has to come from somewhere and could in theory require a rate increase that all subscribers will have to pay. Yes, I believe there is a clause that they cannot raise rates but since they already broke the clause against merging I do not think any agreement against raising rates will stand either.
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kudos:2 | Re: Color me gone said by n2jtx:Not that I really care since I do not have either service but Howard Stern has a contract and has to be paid (unlike Country Music). Actually, satellite radio pays for their music as well. | |
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1 edit | More lousy audio? said by MadMANN:said by n2jtx:Not that I really care since I do not have either service but Howard Stern has a contract and has to be paid (unlike Country Music). Actually, satellite radio pays for their music as well. Don't know how Sirius sounds, but XM quality is lousy. On the talk stations, it's horrendous. Sounds like streaming audio on the internet. Music is OK, but a strong FM signal is still far better. | |
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| Re: More lousy audio? I know what you mean there... I listen to XM 152 a lot, and it does sound like streamed audio. Two shows on 152 are from Real Radio 104.1 in Orlando, FL. If you listen to it on FM, and then listen to it on XM, you can definitely tell the difference. There is also a delay from "live" broadcast (they are on a 16 sec delay at the station) to being broadcast on XM. I think the feed they use is the same feed that is streamed to the Internet!
That channel, and XM 171 are the only reasons I have XM. Otherwise, I would be on Sirius. When the merger is said and done, I will see if I can get those two on Sirius, and then leave XM. If not, then I dunno.
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| Re: More lousy audio? said by neonhomer:I know what you mean there... I listen to XM 152 a lot, and it does sound like streamed audio. Two shows on 152 are from Real Radio 104.1 in Orlando, FL. If you listen to it on FM, and then listen to it on XM, you can definitely tell the difference. There is also a delay from "live" broadcast (they are on a 16 sec delay at the station) to being broadcast on XM. I think the feed they use is the same feed that is streamed to the Internet! That channel, and XM 171 are the only reasons I have XM. Otherwise, I would be on Sirius. When the merger is said and done, I will see if I can get those two on Sirius, and then leave XM. If not, then I dunno. I read somewhere that Sirius is even worse. But I have only heard XM, and that was starting last month. I like the selection, though I could probably narrow it down to 10 channels, and the rest I wouldn't miss. But I would like it to sound good! Plus around here there are plenty of FM stations - I have all 12 presets taken and there are others I would put on presets if I had more. | |
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kudos:3 | Um, do you have an aftermarket radio? or one that's built in as a head unit or factory stereo?
Just about any aftermarket radio sounds like crap. The one that's installed in my Impala LTZ with a Boze Sound System sounds great. The aftermarket I have in my 98 F150 Lariet sounds "eh"... | |
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join:2005-05-02
Marshfield, MA Reviews:
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| Re: More lousy audio? said by fiberguy:Um, do you have an aftermarket radio? or one that's built in as a head unit or factory stereo? Just about any aftermarket radio sounds like crap. The one that's installed in my Impala LTZ with a Boze Sound System sounds great. The aftermarket I have in my 98 F150 Lariet sounds "eh"... Brand new car, factory premium audio system with 7 speakers including subwoofer. It sounds awesome. Just not on XM. I would rather listen to AM radio (while near the station) with a bit of hiss than the XM talk. At least the sound on the AM is not distorted from overcompression. I can live with the quality of the music channels, but they are not as good as FM, and nowhere near as good as a CD. If they would deliver the equivalent of 192kbps MP3, I would be thrilled, and that is what I had assumed.
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kudos:3 | Re: More lousy audio? You're right.. I DON'T have a "boze" .. I think I know how to spell Bose.. I have them all over my house.
Still, the way you are describing the sound quality of XM in a way that I just can't believe. What kind of car do you have? what kind of sound system do you have? Based on what you're saying.. that system could be in a Scion.. "premium" is thrown around and the number of speakers doesn't necessarily make it any better either..
Not putting your car down, but I gave actual names behind my system.. why didn't you? Maybe GM does something to make an XM sound better than what you have.. I dunno. But, for what you are describing, well, maybe you're over exaggerating. I know what streaming audio sounds like on the net and I know what a properly installed XM factory head unit sounds like and they are NOTHING like what you are saying.. or, you just got ripped. | |
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| Re: More lousy audio? said by fiberguy:You're right.. I DON'T have a "boze" .. I think I know how to spell Bose.. I have them all over my house. Still, the way you are describing the sound quality of XM in a way that I just can't believe. What kind of car do you have? what kind of sound system do you have? Based on what you're saying.. that system could be in a Scion.. "premium" is thrown around and the number of speakers doesn't necessarily make it any better either.. Not putting your car down, but I gave actual names behind my system.. why didn't you? Maybe GM does something to make an XM sound better than what you have.. I dunno. But, for what you are describing, well, maybe you're over exaggerating. I know what streaming audio sounds like on the net and I know what a properly installed XM factory head unit sounds like and they are NOTHING like what you are saying.. or, you just got ripped. Since yesterday, I have been reading quite a bit around the internet and have discovered that I am not alone in this opinion. And as I said, my new audio system sounds great. From a review:
Audio systems - Two impressive audio systems are available in the 2008 Accord and Accord Coupe. The standard system features 160 watts, a single-disc CD player and six speakers. The premium audio system, which comes standard on EX-L and V-6 models, has a six-disc CD changer, 270 watts total amplification and seven speakers including a subwoofer. The systems use the central display screen found in all Accord trim levels. The systems include:
o Standard AM/FM/CD with MP3/WMA® playback, and new Radio Data System (RDS) function.
o All trim levels have MP3 capability and an auxiliary audio input jack.
o All trim levels have steering wheel audio controls.
o XM Satellite Radio is standard on all leather-equipped (EX-L and V-6) models.
o All trim levels have speed-sensitive volume control (SVC).
Mine is the latter. It sounds great with the kids iPods and my Sansa as well. I have burned CDs with 192kbps MP3's and they sound great as well. As I mentioned in another post, have you tried tuning in 210 - that will emphasize the point I am making. | |
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kudos:2 | said by amarryat:Don't know how Sirius sounds, but XM quality is lousy. On the talk stations, it's horrendous. Sounds like streaming audio on the internet. Music is OK, but a strong FM signal is still far better. I find the quality to be pretty good. I have heard XMs feeds and they are, indeed, slightly lower in quality. Although, I am pretty biased, since I am one of those idiot Stern fans who would listen to him through a can & string if need be. | |
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| You are wrong, ALL music has royalties that need to be paid. It's only a few cents per song played, but for every song you hear on your radio, albeit FM, AM, XM, Sirius..... money is being moved from the radio station to the company who holds the royalty rights, which in turn gives part back to the artist.
Don't like Willie Nelson because he is a left wing country hippie that smokes pot? TOO BAD, you are supporting his music by paying for satellite radio.
c'mon really.... pretty much EVERY subscription you pay for, newspapers, cable TV, satellite, internet, online services, your POOL cleaner or GARDNER that you pay on a monthly basis will spend money on SOMETHING you don't like. You really got to take that with a grain of salt, or you are going to be very bitter.  | |
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Mulberry, FL | Re: Color me gone said by maartena:
You are wrong, ALL music has royalties that need to be.... money is being moved from the radio station to the company who holds the royalty rights, which in turn gives part back to the artist.
In theory that may be whats supposed to happen, and if it 100% happened I wouldn't and alot of people probably wouldn't have an issue.
BUT.....
Enter corporate greed and lack of ethics and we have the music industries gestapo stormtroopers .. R I A A
When the $ might pay for CD, no DRM'd MP3, etc. goes from me to the artist. Fine. Till then. The system doesn't work that way. If it did we wouldn't see the endless stream of x suing for royalties from the record companies. And in the rare cases where the scumbags actually pay up, the amount that reaches the "artist(s)" is a pittance of what it should be. $0.90 of every $1 should goto the artists. The remaining $0.10 the scumbag record companies, managers, handlers can fight it out over.
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| said by Mactron:If that idiot Howard Stern gets shoved down my subscription throat. I won't pay any kind of $ that supports that trash, I'll go back the terrestrial waste land and an MP3 player. It is the competition, remember. Don't forget to drop your Comcast cable as Howard TV On Demand is available through Comcast. Even if you just have analog cable or internet throught them.... "you pay $ to support that kind of trash".
Or Maybe.... you should just choose what to listen to and skip the Howard Stern channel. Also, since both Sirius and XM radio offer certain uncensored channels, you have the option to LOCK that channel on your radio. | |
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CWCville USA | said by Mactron:If that idiot Howard Stern gets shoved down my subscription throat. I won't pay any kind of $ that supports that trash, I'll go back the terrestrial waste land and an MP3 player. Wahhhhhhh Howard Stern is so mean! WAHHHHHHHH.
You dont hear Howard's fans saying they'll leave because of that convict Martha Stewart "being shoved down their throat" or the religious channels on Sirius do you?
You're intolerant, that's your problem. | |
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|  JeffreyWilpon please sell the MetsPremium
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| said by Mactron:If that idiot Howard Stern gets shoved down my subscription throat. As far as I know, they aren't forcing you to listen to anything. If you don't want to listen, you can simply change the channel.
I, for one, am I huge Howard fan, and look forward to any merger so I can get my MLB. 
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kudos:1 | Re: Color me gone said by CyaXM :I canceled XM this week; same repetitive crap, low quality; I'll listen to my mp3's thank you very much Good luck with the merger Don't like repetition but you listen to your collection of mp3s? So many things wrong with that statement.
Low quality... connect it directly to the radio. | |
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join:2005-05-02
Marshfield, MA Reviews:
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| said by CyaXM :I canceled XM this week; same repetitive crap, low quality; I'll listen to my mp3's thank you very much Good luck with the merger I agree. Always assumed satellite digital radio would sound great. Driving my new car home with the trial subscription, immediately noticed it is not so great, and talk stations were awful. Unless they give me some ridiculously great deal, I will let the trial run out. | |
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| | | | | | Re: Color me gone Sounds fine to me and I get quality O&A radio.. what's to hate? | |
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| Re: Color me gone said by Uncle Paul:Sounds fine to me and I get quality O&A radio.. what's to hate? When it is played through a decent audio system, it does not sound good. In my opinion, this is how it works out: I'd say their music channels sound approximately like a 96kbps MP3, and their talk are worse than 64kbps MP3. On a portable radio, you probably wouldn't notice the difference between their music and FM, but I think that the talk audio would have a noticeable difference, even on a low end portable radio. | |
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| | | | | | | | Re: Color me gone I disagree. Piped into my stereo through a direct feed it sounds just fine. But then I'm not an audiophile so you may hear something my inexperienced ears may not.
Some reading:
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2 edits | Re: Color me gone Try tuning channel 210 and tell me that sounds fine. Tinny and lispy.
FYI - not being rude. I am not an audiophile either, but probably closer than most.
Edit - just took a look at that website. The XM press releases were when they had 100 channels. Now they advertise 170, which means that they have to compress more for them to fit in the same bandwidth. | |
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Color me gone Well not a good channel to select for your argument. With that said, I'm sure you would say to pick any channel but selecting a Boston Traffic and Weather channel for audio quality.... of course it's going to have the least amount of bandwidth... all those types of channels will.
Probably much like other sat companies, XM knows which of it's channels have more listeners and those channels are afforded more bandwidth than channels that have a much smaller audience.
Now, don't get me wrong... I know it's not cd quality.. but then I trade of programming access for some amount of quality.
As you pointed out in a lower post, I'm interested in seeing what they consider a premium channel.
My wife likes pop and top20. I listen to talk,news, SEC football, and my music tends to be more distortion based. My folks like the 50s and channels like watercolors and audio visions.
I would commute around 45 mins to work. My locals just gave me crap.. the morning shows were hack and the commercials... ugh. I still get some commercials on some sat channels, but that's mostly on mine. My wife and parents because they listen to almost all music get no commercials. We enjoy it.
We paid 3 years to bring the cost down to like $8.99 then $7 for each of the other radios in our 'family'. | |
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Marshfield, MA Reviews:
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1 edit | Re: Color me gone said by Uncle Paul:Well not a good channel to select for your argument. With that said, I'm sure you would say to pick any channel but selecting a Boston Traffic and Weather channel for audio quality.... of course it's going to have the least amount of bandwidth... all those types of channels will. I chose that channel because it was blatantly obvious how bad the audio quality is on the talk stations. I listen to 121, and occasionally 150-154. They sound pretty bad too. Even my undiscerning wife notices. And I have tuned in 177 which would carry the same MLB broadcast as one of our local FM and AM stations - there is no comparison.
I do switch between 8, 9, 20, 22, 25, 26, 30, and 49. They sound OK. However they don't have the kick/punch of a CD, and they also lose quite a bit of the low end bass. FM doesn't sound as good as a CD either, but it is noticeably (to me) better than the XM music.
Edit - as I pointed out above that my wife notices the poor quality on the talk channels, she has also said that she'll subscribe in a second when she gets her next car. | |
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CWCville USA | said by Mactron:Wow ! so many Fans of Middle School bathroom humor. Better a fan of bathroom humour than an opponent of free speech. You've obviously never heard much of the Howard Stern show, there's alot to be said for someone who treats everyone he interviews with the same respect whether they're a millionaire or a prostitute.
You can stick with your phony interviewers, I'll stick with the only guy who will ask the tough questions, like do you like anal. | |
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CM94sv | Re: Color me gone said by maartena:Well.... as you are in Santa Maria, CA - where they have Comcast for TV and Internet - And you probably are NOT going to vote with your pocketbook because they carry Howard Stern TV On Demand (and you "support that kind of trash" even if you have just the Internet side), I don't think anyone here is actually taking you seriously. If you really felt that the fact that 1 single person is broadcasting on something you subscribe to, you would have switched to DSL for your internet, and went back to broadcast TV only. Because yes.... whaddayaknow, DirectTV has XM Radio Channels as well, and pretty soon you will be "supporting that kind of trash" by paying Direct TV. I just have a hard time believing that would actually cancel with that as the primary reason. And it would be quite hypocritical to keep on Comcast if you indeed did cancel XM for that reason. But hey....as long as it serves you, it isn't THAT bad that Howard Stern TV On Demand can be accessed through your VOD channel, or through the internet On Demand.
Lots of assumptions on your part... Sadly for you most are incorrect. My wallet voted Comcast out some time ago.
You might take the time to read profiles here before making assumptions.
You don't take me seriously? I don't care if you do or not.
Your opinion on how I spend My money is unimportant.
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| I have Sirius, not for that idiot Howard Stern, but because they have some other wicked channels that XM couldn't provide...my favourite being BBC Radio 1 (Channel 11). You get to hear music that will take 5 years to crack the North American market. Howard Stern is around channel 100, I'll usually hit a good tune before I get that high. Besides, statistics claim that 95% of people can't count beyond 99, so, really, the merger would affect next to no one.
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| fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
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kudos:3 | Hey!
If it wasn't for "Howard Stern"... radio could be much worse. We could be listening to the 24 Hour christian/filtered radio network on every frequency ... Howard Stern did a LOT for radio and freedom of speech.
Don't be immature and make silly threats to fluff your chest; people see through that crap every day.
Simply enjoy your FM.. no, wait.. continue to enjoy your Satellite Radio because you aren't going to drop your radio over HS. | |
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Stockton, CA | Upgrade I just hope this doesn't render my current XM receivers integrated into my vehicles useless in a few years. | |
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| Re: Upgrade said by dervari2:said by Unit649:I just hope this doesn't render my current XM receivers integrated into my vehicles useless in a few years. They say they're going to get rid or "redundant" channels such as The 80s, but I can't see that happening until they have new equipment available. Otherwise, you'll have both programmers missing stuff that the other one has. Technically speaking, they could send the same set of channels to XM radio's and Sirius radio's for a long, long time....
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| | | said by Unit649:I just hope this doesn't render my current XM receivers integrated into my vehicles useless in a few years. Yes, that sounds like a good plan. Alienate their current loyal customers by making their receives obsolete, forcing them to buy a new receiver.
Real sound plan.
Of course they are going to try to keep every single receiver working, they can't afford to lose subs. | |
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Laguna Hills, CA | Finally NFL + MLB + NASCAR without 2 subscriptions. | |
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| Re: Finally My understanding of the way it will work is that you can use either an XM or Sirius radio to get all of the programming. I'm sure a renumbering of the channels will occur and probably a programming update for all receivers so they receive signals from the same satellite. But it was promised this would be free to customers. The XM antenna is not as good at picking up and keeping signal as Sirius, I have both and XM drops out all the time. I hope that they keep the technology associated with Sirius rather than XM, it is an inferior product IMO. | |
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Laguna Hills, CA | Re: Finally I use the factory XM antenna with a dual port adapter with SiriusConnect in my Acura and never have problems. Didn't have problems when the XM receiver was in it either. | |
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join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO | now if they would just have a Jpop channel i would get it
i think Japan-a-radio a atm a internet station has tryed to get deal with them but keeps getting turned down >.> | |
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Laguna Hills, CA | Re: Finally I'd like to see that too. | |
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join:2001-05-01
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kudos:1 | About time! As a subscriber to both services, I feel that the merger is definitely needed for satellite radio to survive. Competition is too fierce these days. Competing against each other and all the other mediums is making it impossible for them to ever be profitable.
One of the larger rumors is that most of XM is going to stay in tact for music and the Sirius sats are going to be used to grow the in car video. Prices should stay the same for similar service but then if you want features from the other provider they would be add-ons. It sounds like the FCC will be setting price controls which should be good for consumers. The combined company would not have a monopoly though so if they started to raise their prices people would leave and go to other solutions (iPods, FM, etc).
XM definitely has the better music while Sirius has better/more talk (stern/btls/ferrall) and sports. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: About time! Just DO NOT get rid of Underground Garage. Or BBC Radio 1. | |
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| Re: About time! said by HappyBunny:Just DO NOT get rid of Underground Garage. Or BBC Radio 1. If they get rid of BBC Radio 1 I'll be getting rid of my subscription...
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kudos:3 | said by scooby:XM definitely has the better music while Sirius has better/more talk (stern/btls/ferrall) and sports. While that's an opinion I agree with, it's still an opinion. However, in my large circle, I have yet to find anyone that like XM, rather, says Sirius better. | |
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00000 | benefits who? it's unbelievable that this is being approved. only people that benefit are stockholders. consumers will be screwed. | |
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Baltimore, MD | Re: I bought stock at $6 said by Maggs:It's trading at $2, exactly how have I benefited? Please do tell me! Trying to figure that one out myself. I bought Sirius at $6 2 years ago and XM about the same time for $16. I've lost several thousand dollars so far and even if they merge I don't see how I'm going to win on this one. I'm baffled at the stockholder statement because I'm just not seeing it (although I will admit that I bought shares of both HOPING that they would merge . .. what I didn't expect was that both stock prices would be so damn depressed by the time of the sale). | |
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| | MaggsPremium
join:2002-11-29
Woodside, NY | Re: I bought stock at $6 The uncertainity of the merger screwed both companies. It took about 2 years to get this going. So all their creditors get weary and put their corporate debt into junk bond territory.
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| |  N3OGHYo Soy Col. "Bat" GuanoPremium
join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
kudos:1 | Um, either way quit yer whining.
If the stock had gone to Pluto, you'd be dancing a jig. You took a risk speculating in the stock of 2 upstart companies, and you drew a loss.
It's not like either company was turning a profit when you bought in. Both were dogs with fleas. You took a chance, rolled the dice, and you probably lost a bundle. That's the name of the game. Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug.
Just about everyone that bought and held either SIRI or XMSR got their ass handed to them. As a matter of fact, anyone holding anything other than gold or oil futures is getting an asswhoopin'. That's the nature of the current market.
If I was in your position, I would sell my shares right after the merger. Given the current debt structure of both companies, I don't see them turning a profit any time soon....
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| | | bivBbr BivPremium,MVM
join:2000-09-26
Baltimore, MD | Re: I bought stock at $6 Wasn't whining. Was responding to the person who was saying that only shareholders were benefiting from this merger. Merely demonstrating the ill-informed nature of that comment.
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| | So... When is a another provider going to be allowed into the Satellite radio playing field once this is completed? When these two companies merge, there will be room for another. | |
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| ke4pymPremium
join:2004-07-24
Charlotte, NC Reviews:
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| Re: So... said by NetAdmin1:When is a another provider going to be allowed into the Satellite radio playing field once this is completed? When these two companies merge, there will be room for another. Actually, there is room for another provider now. 3 licenses were up for grabs in the mid-90s for this technology. A 3rd company never came along. | |
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| | Long Live XM LONG LIVE XM... | |
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| | | Re: Long Live XM If this deal goes through we all win.
There will be la carte and you will be able to choose what channels you want for cheaper prices. We will have all sports under 1 roof so that there is no need to have Xm for baseball and Sirius for nascar. We will have the best of all talk radio and music as well. Noone will lose from this merger. Sirius and Xm as one company will allow them to compete with free radio and do it well. Noone really loses in this merger at all. If exxon mobil can merge and noone hardly blinks and eye then this merger shouldnt have drawn this much attention to start with. Exactly how have we gained from exxon mobile? Are gas prices cheaer?
At least with this merger the consumer will see benifits. | |
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| | | | Re: Long Live XM I win if I get more of what I listen to for the same or less money. Otherwise it's not much of a win.
If I end up paying more for O&A and SEC football then yea, that'll be an issue. | |
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| | Idiots... If you don't like Howard... DONT LISTEN
It wont cost you anymore so quit complaining
Typical whining conservative wacko | |
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|  lrtc6
join:2004-06-05
Toronto | Re: Idiots... Well said! | |
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join:2005-10-22
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| ?tions!! Is this going to make our plan prices go up?? Will this give us more crappy stations?.... I turn my XM one like once every three months
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| | Xm and Sirius I'm sorry but XM and Sirius both suck, they both have been a dying breed. | |
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| maartenaElmoPremium
join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
kudos:1 Reviews:
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| Re: Xm and Sirius said by Jesse James :
I'm sorry but XM and Sirius both suck, they both have been a dying breed.
They are FAR from dying. I know a few truck drivers that drive all across the country (an uncle being one of them) and for him it is the greatest thing in the world. Listen to your favorite baseball game while driving through the Arizona desert where you would normally pick up 2 or 3 FM stations at max, one of em being in Spanish.
They also have great weather and traffic services - which can be great if you are expecting to arrive in a certain city 3 hours from now but aren't close enough for traffic reports over AM or FM from that city, and you can still plan a route around it.
From what I have heard, XM alone has almost 10 million subscribers, and Sirius has at least 7. ANY company that has a few million subscribers has a pretty decent future ahead I would say. I think most truckers subscribe to it now, and there is a hell of a lot of em out there. | |
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join:2000-09-07
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kudos:5 | Sooo..... Now will I get Lex and Terry show on Sirius? | |
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join:2002-01-17
Mechanicsburg, PA | pls keep audiovisions have had (((xm))) for years; love audio visions. hope they don't mess with this. bub | |
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| | xm packages/sirius packages after merger I think xmmerger.com has a list of the proposed service packages, what channels are in which,etc. There is a service for $5 or $7 that you choose 10 channels you want besides OA,Stern or sports. | |
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| amarryatVerizon FiOS
join:2005-05-02
Marshfield, MA Reviews:
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| Re: xm packages/sirius packages after merger said by mikedz4:I think xmmerger.com has a list of the proposed service packages, what channels are in which,etc. There is a service for $5 or $7 that you choose 10 channels you want besides OA,Stern or sports. I couldn't find the package you mention, but I did see A La Carte packages starting with 50 channels, but not premium channels. The big question there will be what channels will be considered premium.
They also mention that you will be able to receive a mix of Sirius and XM channels on existing equipment. I guess everyone can look forward to even more compression. That's not a good thing. | |
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| | Had it forever and like it I have had sirius forever and I listen to all kinds of stuff,Howard, Bubba, Nascar, Comedy, Music, and my Kids love the lime channel and the other kid channels when we go on a road trip...I would rather listen to this than the crap with more commercials terrestrial radio | |
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| | | Re: Had it forever and like it Oh yeah forgot to mention Playboy radio LMAO | |
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