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tiger72
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clubs: | Re: It's about time! fina-freakin-ly!
I've always hoped that this (or something similar) would come out. I'm glad to see it's a soon-to-be-reality!!!
Looks like i'll be renewing my netflix subscription AND my xbl subscription. | |
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| Re: It's about time! said by tiger72  :I've always hoped that this (or something similar) would come out. Didn't Netflix just come out with the Roku box that does the same thing? And you wouldn't have to pay a monthly fee to MS as well as Netflix. Just pay the regular monthly Netflix subscription and you get their movie streaming for free as part of their regular DVD deliver to the home service. The only cost would be the 1 time fee of $100 for the Roku box.
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| Re: It's about time! said by TK Junk Mail :said by tiger72 :I've always hoped that this (or something similar) would come out. Didn't Netflix just come out with the Roku box that does the same thing? And you wouldn't have to pay a monthly fee to MS as well as Netflix. Just pay the regular monthly Netflix subscription and you get their movie streaming for free as part of their regular DVD deliver to the home service. The only cost would be the 1 time fee of $100 for the Roku box. » blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/05/r···net.html The problem there is value. That Roku box only does netflix. If something happens to netflix, let's say they merge with another online retailer and their codecs, etc.. change, the Roku will be useless. The 360 however can just update to move with the times, or just move to another carrier.
The XBL subscription is something that provides more than just the Netflix streaming (namely my Rock Band and GTA IV multiplayer).
So, while the Roku unit has been out for streaming netflix to TVs, being a one-trick pony it provides little value to me.
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clubs: | Re: It's about time! It would be most valuable to those who already have a regular Netflix subscription and can now get the new streaming service for that one time $100 fee. Especially if you don't already have a Xbox.
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|  Re: It's about time!
Do incumbent internet providers really want to let Microsoft, Sony, Blockbuster, NetFlix, DirecTV or any other provider to ride their service free and provide competing entertainment content?
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| Re: It's about time! said by pandora :Do incumbent internet providers really want to let Microsoft, Sony, Blockbuster, NetFlix, DirecTV or any other provider to ride their service free and provide competing entertainment content? Where do you get this "Free" idea from? Last I checked, my connection isn't free... This type of service is *exactly* why I pay for broadband in the first place. The people who provide these video services pay for the bandwidth, and we, the users, PAY the incumbents for access just for this type of content. They are plenty compensated.... The idea that "Hey they shouldn't be able to use our network for their stuff" is something right out of at&t's playbook.
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| Re: It's about time!said by KrK :Where do you get this "Free" idea from? Last I checked, my connection isn't free... Free as in free to - Microsoft, Sony, Blockbuster, NetFlix, DirecTV or any other provider.
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| Re: It's about time! said by pandora :Free as in free to - Microsoft, Sony, Blockbuster, NetFlix, DirecTV or any other provider. Why do you think they get it free? Their bandwidth bills are enormous. | |
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| Re: It's about time!said by KrK :Why do you think they get it free? Their bandwidth bills are enormous. I think we are talking over each other. Microsoft, Sony, Blockbuster, NetFlix, DirecTV or any other internet entertainment providers business plan is to have customers with high speed internet. This is assumed as part of their plan and at no cost to them. My point is entertainment content providers who are also broadband providers may not wish to facilitate business plans that detract from their own entertainment offerings. Which is why I suspect we are seeing so much discussion of caps.
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| Re: It's about time! Of course, which is complete bull when it comes to a utility that is a natural oligarchy. Content provision shouldn't be allowed to become a similar monopoly simply b/c the guy who operates the toll road [of which there is naturally a limited number of] wants to start his own trucking business. | |
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It's nice that internet use is expanding to include safe, pre-paid / free videos for display on TV sets or PC's, eventually Congress may need to mediate if the caps are set too low. Internet evolution is in my opinion a good thing. I am so happy to see all the free content available on my DVR's available from Internet servers.
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| said by tiger72 :The problem there is value. That Roku box only does netflix. Roku is talking to other content providers. They don't have an exclusive agreement with Netflix. | |
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| Re: It's about time! said by xargs :said by tiger72 :The problem there is value. That Roku box only does netflix. Roku is talking to other content providers. They don't have an exclusive agreement with Netflix. Nor does Netflix have an exclusive with Roku.
Good to see there are other boxes.
I love Netflix streaming. It actually works 100%, even on 768k DSL, and it never gives me BSOD or reboots or any of the usual video / DRM / windows / usb nonsense.
The library is fairly spartan at 10,000 titles, but it provides me with more than I could ever desire to watch.
I'm optimistic that Netflix will figure a way to deal with the licensing for the rest of the titles.
We'll need Netflix, Blockbuster Online, Amazon and Google's combined legal pocketbooks to fight against unreasonable caps. Otherwise, online delivery will go the way of DAT, DCC, Personics, Divx, Beta...
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| Enjoy watching all of those old and B, C, and D movies. If you think that Netflix put any new, decent movies on view instantly you'll be disappointed. The last time they came out with a new anime was about 3 months ago.
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| Re: It's about time! 1. I've seen all of the new movies. That's why I got rid of my netflix subscription. The few new movies that come out that are any good I see in theaters.
2. Netflix has a massive library of older classics (which are what I watch streaming). For those movies, a queue doesn't satisfy me because unlike new movies, my desire to see old movies is based upon my mood, not wanting to see a recent film now.
3. For new movies, I choose to get those from other sources. Those sources very rarely have older movies.
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I'm pumped about Netflix streaming though. | |
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Rensselaer, IN | Re: New XB Interface Have to agree there, it looks like total piss in it's current stage. | |
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clubs: | Very nice... We started using the download service and it really is decent. | |
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Phil
Rojo Sol
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Camarillo, CA | Re: Very nice... My wife and I have been using it since its inception and also love it. The only thing lacking at the moment is selection. | |
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| Need a Gold account. Engadget says you will need to spring for the Gold account to have access to Netflix.
EDIT: Gold users get it at no additional cost. Not exclusive to Gold as it sounded. | |
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| Re: Need a Gold account. said by MrJames :Engadget says you will need to spring for the Gold account to have access to Netflix. ::Shrug::
Most people already have a Gold account. It's only $7.99/month.
You'll also have to have a Netflix account. So that's $17 or so a month to stream unlimited content from Netflix. Not bad. I'm curious as to the content though. I think their streaming stuff is SD, rather than HD. | |
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| Re: Need a Gold account. said by MattE :said by MrJames :Engadget says you will need to spring for the Gold account to have access to Netflix. ::Shrug:: Most people already have a Gold account. It's only $7.99/month. You'll also have to have a Netflix account. So that's $17 or so a month to stream unlimited content from Netflix. Not bad. I'm curious as to the content though. I think their streaming stuff is SD, rather than HD. Except for those of us with multiple 360s being used as Extenders, paying an additional $7 per month ain't gonna happen here. | |
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| Re: Need a Gold account. said by jmallory :said by MattE :said by MrJames :Engadget says you will need to spring for the Gold account to have access to Netflix. ::Shrug:: Most people already have a Gold account. It's only $7.99/month. You'll also have to have a Netflix account. So that's $17 or so a month to stream unlimited content from Netflix. Not bad. I'm curious as to the content though. I think their streaming stuff is SD, rather than HD. Except for those of us with multiple 360s being used as Extenders, paying an additional $7 per month ain't gonna happen here. Can you not sign in to your account twice? Why not just download it to your other 360? | |
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| said by MattE :So that's $17 or so a month to stream unlimited content from Netflix. My local Time Warner keeps upping the price and replacing content with shopping channels. Sometimes I wonder if their paid content covers the content they pay for, leaving all the money they get out of me to cover wire maintenance. Must be nice for them. 
As attractive as $17 a month is I'm leery to throw any money into equipment and dumping my cable service, like I have with landline phone. Capping stands to put the kibosh to online video. | |
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| Re: Need a Gold account. said by Millenniumle :said by MattE :So that's $17 or so a month to stream unlimited content from Netflix. My local Time Warner keeps upping the price and replacing content with shopping channels. Sometimes I wonder if their paid content covers the content they pay for, leaving all the money they get out of me to cover wire maintenance. Netflix doesn't [have to] cost $17 a month.
You can get unlimited streaming on the 1-per plan ($8.99). | |
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| Re: Need a Gold account. said by StreamFan :said by Millenniumle :said by MattE :So that's $17 or so a month to stream unlimited content from Netflix. My local Time Warner keeps upping the price and replacing content with shopping channels. Sometimes I wonder if their paid content covers the content they pay for, leaving all the money they get out of me to cover wire maintenance. Netflix doesn't [have to] cost $17 a month. You can get unlimited streaming on the 1-per plan ($8.99). I meant combined with the price of XBox Live Gold. I have the 1-per month now, so I was referring to the $9 Netflix and $8 XBL Gold subscriptions combined. | |
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| said by MrJames :Engadget says you will need to spring for the Gold account to have access to Netflix. Well I was excited by this for about five minutes then. I have two XBOX 360s (1 used as a Game Console / Extender with a Gold Account and one that is used just as an extender with a Silver account) and there is no way I am buying a 2nd Gold account just for NetFlix...luckily I can get NetFlix via Vista Media Center. | |
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| Re: Need a Gold account. said by modboy :put your xbl account on a memory card & move it to whichever box you're watching at the time. He can also download his account to any other 360 and just select which profile he wants. The issue may be that if he wants to play a XBL game on one 360 and watch a movie on the other. | |
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| Re: Need a Gold account. said by MattE :said by modboy :put your xbl account on a memory card & move it to whichever box you're watching at the time. He can also download his account to any other 360 and just select which profile he wants. The issue may be that if he wants to play a XBL game on one 360 and watch a movie on the other. That is one reason but how about because wanting to charge me another $7 a month just for the privilege of being able to stream NetFlix to another 360 is just plain dumb. What turned out to be maybe a very good feature versus the PS3, just became another way for MS to try to get another XBL Gold account subscription from me. nice try, no sale. | |
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| Re: Need a Gold account. said by jmallory :That is one reason but how about because wanting to charge me another $7 a month just for the privilege of being able to stream NetFlix to another 360 is just plain dumb. What turned out to be maybe a very good feature versus the PS3, just became another way for MS to try to get another XBL Gold account subscription from me. nice try, no sale. Are you able to play on Xbox Live using the same account on two different Xbox 360s at the same time?
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| said by MattE :The issue may be that if he wants to play a XBL game on one 360 and watch a movie on the other. I would imagine that would be quite difficult. Talk about multi-tasking. | |
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| Re: Need a Gold account. said by modboy :said by MattE :The issue may be that if he wants to play a XBL game on one 360 and watch a movie on the other. I would imagine that would be quite difficult. Talk about multi-tasking. Not with multiple people in the house. | |
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| Re: Need a Gold account. said by Chris 313 :said by MrJames :Engadget says you will need to spring for the Gold account to have access to Netflix. I just came from the broadcast as GS and it was said you also need a Netflix account. So $50 a year for the gold XBL account and at least $108 a year for netflix. So $158 a year just to watch movies not counting the cost of said movies. Sounds like a deal! | |
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| Re: Need a Gold account. said by BF69 :said by Chris 313 :said by MrJames :Engadget says you will need to spring for the Gold account to have access to Netflix. I just came from the broadcast as GS and it was said you also need a Netflix account. So $50 a year for the gold XBL account and at least $108 a year for netflix. So $158 a year just to watch movies not counting the cost of said movies. Sounds like a deal! You don't pay to stream a movie and it's included in your Netflix sub at no charge. (Which you can rent Blu-Ray movies with too.)
So yes, it is a deal. XBox/Netflix users are getting this for free. | |
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| Re: Need a Gold account. said by MattE :You don't pay to stream a movie and it's included in your Netflix sub at no charge. (Which you can rent Blu-Ray movies with too.) So yes, it is a deal. XBox/Netflix users are getting this for free. If you don't already have Netflix or XBL account its not. It's $158 you're not currently paying. With PS3, guess what, you just pay for the movies you actually rent. You don't have to pay just for access. Which part of that don't you get? I don't have a Netflix account, so it's not FREE to me.
Sure for the tiny % of people that have both it's a bargin. For $158 one could rent 40 movies from Amazon Unbox. | |
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| Re: Need a Gold account. said by BF69 :said by MattE :You don't pay to stream a movie and it's included in your Netflix sub at no charge. (Which you can rent Blu-Ray movies with too.) So yes, it is a deal. XBox/Netflix users are getting this for free. If you don't already have Netflix or XBL account its not. It's $158 you're not currently paying. With PS3, guess what, you just pay for the movies you actually rent. You don't have to pay just for access. Which part of that don't you get? I don't have a Netflix account, so it's not FREE to me. Sure for the tiny % of people that have both it's a bargin. For $158 one could rent 40 movies from Amazon Unbox. You can still rent single movies from the Microsoft store. This is an additional service, not an exclusive one.
Additionally, if you have an XBox, you have to have a Gold subscription to play games via XBox Live, so all you'd have to have is a Netflix subscription, which 7 million people or so do. I have both, so I'm excited about this. | |
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| Well I have a Netflix acount and a Gold Account so this sounds like it will benefit me. I watch movies on Netflix.com once in a while so this sounds very convenient.
My only issue is with the limited availability of movies to watch online thru Netflix.
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| Re: Need a Gold account. said by biggbrother :My only issue is with the limited availability of movies to watch online thru Netflix. Yeah, their selection is weak, but it sure would come in handy on a lazy day when nothing else is on. Especially since all the Netflix packages but one get unlimited streaming. | |
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WiFiguru
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Bakersfield, CA | Netflix? Netflix?
Awesome!
Can you subscribe to netflix, or do you have to use points? | |
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MattE
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| Re: Netflix? said by WiFiguru :Netflix? Awesome! Can you subscribe to netflix, or do you have to use points? I would hope to god this would just come from your Netflix Instant Viewing service. | |
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| caps and overage plans With all of these companies ramping up their delivery of broadband video (DirecTV "VOD" also comes to mind) ISP execs are probably eager to expedite their caps and overage plans.
I have been saying this for years. Caps have nothing to do with Bit Torrent, but have everything to do with services like this that are in direct competition with cables On Demand service. | |
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Camarillo, CA | Re: caps and overage plans For years? Caps have only recently begun to rear their ugly heads, but your point still stands (as has been mentioned numerous times elsewhere). | |
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| The Internet is great for many things, but the existing model of using unicast flows for video distribution has scaling limitations. There's no way for Internet video to replace even 1% of standard video distribution with the technology being used today.
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| Re: caps and overage plans said by espaeth :There's no way for Internet video to replace even 1% of standard video distribution with the technology being used today. The Internet is simply augmenting existing distribution channels, not replacing them. Sure with the technology being used today.
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