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Xbox 360 Gets Netflix Streaming
More than 10,000 titles soon to be available...
by Karl Bode Monday 14-Jul-2008 tags: Video · competition
With Sony hot on their heels and planning to launch their own film & TV download service this summer, Microsoft today announced they'll not only be overhauling the Xbox 360's GUI completely, they'll be enabling live streaming from Netflix (full E3 presentation at Engadget) in a software update this fall. The partnership (in addition to a new deal with NBC Universal) would put the total Xbox 360 downloadable
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film and TV selection count at over 10,000.

With all of these companies ramping up their delivery of broadband video (DirecTV "VOD" also comes to mind) ISP execs are probably eager to expedite their caps and overage plans. They have a few years before they really need to worry; broadband video still has a long way to go before it disrupts traditional broadcast -- and in fact people are watching more cable TV than ever.

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It's about time!

That's all I really wanted to say...

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Re: It's about time!

fina-freakin-ly!

I've always hoped that this (or something similar) would come out. I'm glad to see it's a soon-to-be-reality!!!

Looks like i'll be renewing my netflix subscription AND my xbl subscription.

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Re: It's about time!

said by tiger72:

I've always hoped that this (or something similar) would come out.
Didn't Netflix just come out with the Roku box that does the same thing? And you wouldn't have to pay a monthly fee to MS as well as Netflix. Just pay the regular monthly Netflix subscription and you get their movie streaming for free as part of their regular DVD deliver to the home service. The only cost would be the 1 time fee of $100 for the Roku box.

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Re: It's about time!

said by Linklist:

said by tiger72:

I've always hoped that this (or something similar) would come out.
Didn't Netflix just come out with the Roku box that does the same thing? And you wouldn't have to pay a monthly fee to MS as well as Netflix. Just pay the regular monthly Netflix subscription and you get their movie streaming for free as part of their regular DVD deliver to the home service. The only cost would be the 1 time fee of $100 for the Roku box.

»blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/05/r···net.html
The problem there is value. That Roku box only does netflix. If something happens to netflix, let's say they merge with another online retailer and their codecs, etc.. change, the Roku will be useless. The 360 however can just update to move with the times, or just move to another carrier.

The XBL subscription is something that provides more than just the Netflix streaming (namely my Rock Band and GTA IV multiplayer).

So, while the Roku unit has been out for streaming netflix to TVs, being a one-trick pony it provides little value to me.
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Re: It's about time!

It would be most valuable to those who already have a regular Netflix subscription and can now get the new streaming service for that one time $100 fee. Especially if you don't already have a Xbox.
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Re: It's about time!

DirecTV provides free and fee video streaming with their newer high definition DVR's. The problem with these services is going to be one of internet caps by providers. TWC, Verizon, Comcast, AT&T all provide high speed internet and have their own entertainment offerings over ethernet that they want to push.

Do incumbent internet providers really want to let Microsoft, Sony, Blockbuster, NetFlix, DirecTV or any other provider to ride their service free and provide competing entertainment content?
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Re: It's about time!

said by pandora:

Do incumbent internet providers really want to let Microsoft, Sony, Blockbuster, NetFlix, DirecTV or any other provider to ride their service free and provide competing entertainment content?
Where do you get this "Free" idea from? Last I checked, my connection isn't free... This type of service is *exactly* why I pay for broadband in the first place. The people who provide these video services pay for the bandwidth, and we, the users, PAY the incumbents for access just for this type of content. They are plenty compensated.... The idea that "Hey they shouldn't be able to use our network for their stuff" is something right out of at&t's playbook.
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said by KrK:

Where do you get this "Free" idea from? Last I checked, my connection isn't free...
Free as in free to - Microsoft, Sony, Blockbuster, NetFlix, DirecTV or any other provider.
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said by pandora:

Free as in free to - Microsoft, Sony, Blockbuster, NetFlix, DirecTV or any other provider.
Why do you think they get it free? Their bandwidth bills are enormous.
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said by KrK:

Why do you think they get it free? Their bandwidth bills are enormous.
I think we are talking over each other. Microsoft, Sony, Blockbuster, NetFlix, DirecTV or any other internet entertainment providers business plan is to have customers with high speed internet. This is assumed as part of their plan and at no cost to them. My point is entertainment content providers who are also broadband providers may not wish to facilitate business plans that detract from their own entertainment offerings. Which is why I suspect we are seeing so much discussion of caps.
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Re: It's about time!

Of course, which is complete bull when it comes to a utility that is a natural oligarchy. Content provision shouldn't be allowed to become a similar monopoly simply b/c the guy who operates the toll road [of which there is naturally a limited number of] wants to start his own trucking business.
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I tend to agree, we are provided a broadband pipe to use for internet access and should be able to use it as we please. At the same time, there is a bunch of free HD content available on my DVR's that I am concerned about downloading. It may push me over the cap if I do more than a very few on a single DVR.

It's nice that internet use is expanding to include safe, pre-paid / free videos for display on TV sets or PC's, eventually Congress may need to mediate if the caps are set too low. Internet evolution is in my opinion a good thing. I am so happy to see all the free content available on my DVR's available from Internet servers.
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said by pandora:

My point is entertainment content providers who are also broadband providers may not wish to facilitate business plans that detract from their own entertainment offerings. Which is why I suspect we are seeing so much discussion of caps.
Yes, exactly. It's not because of a Network management issue, it's a anti-competitive move. (IE protect our Video offerings from Internet competition by hamstringing our customers.)
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said by tiger72:

The problem there is value. That Roku box only does netflix.
Roku is talking to other content providers. They don't have an exclusive agreement with Netflix.

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Re: It's about time!

said by xargs:

said by tiger72:

The problem there is value. That Roku box only does netflix.
Roku is talking to other content providers. They don't have an exclusive agreement with Netflix.
Nor does Netflix have an exclusive with Roku.
Good to see there are other boxes.

I love Netflix streaming. It actually works 100%, even on 768k DSL, and it never gives me BSOD or reboots or any of the usual video / DRM / windows / usb nonsense.

The library is fairly spartan at 10,000 titles, but it provides me with more than I could ever desire to watch.
I'm optimistic that Netflix will figure a way to deal with the licensing for the rest of the titles.

We'll need Netflix, Blockbuster Online, Amazon and Google's combined legal pocketbooks to fight against unreasonable caps. Otherwise, online delivery will go the way of DAT, DCC, Personics, Divx, Beta...

Lets hope Microsoft doesn't find a way to ruin a good thing.
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Enjoy watching all of those old and B, C, and D movies. If you think that Netflix put any new, decent movies on view instantly you'll be disappointed. The last time they came out with a new anime was about 3 months ago.
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Re: It's about time!

1. I've seen all of the new movies. That's why I got rid of my netflix subscription. The few new movies that come out that are any good I see in theaters.
2. Netflix has a massive library of older classics (which are what I watch streaming). For those movies, a queue doesn't satisfy me because unlike new movies, my desire to see old movies is based upon my mood, not wanting to see a recent film now.
3. For new movies, I choose to get those from other sources. Those sources very rarely have older movies.
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New XB Interface

Is uuuuuugly. It looks like a 6-year old's interface. WTF?

I'm pumped about Netflix streaming though.
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Have to agree there, it looks like total piss in it's current stage.

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Very nice...

We started using the download service and it really is decent.

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Re: Very nice...

My wife and I have been using it since its inception and also love it. The only thing lacking at the moment is selection.
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Need a Gold account.

Engadget says you will need to spring for the Gold account to have access to Netflix.

EDIT: Gold users get it at no additional cost. Not exclusive to Gold as it sounded.

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Re: Need a Gold account.

said by MrJames:

Engadget says you will need to spring for the Gold account to have access to Netflix.
::Shrug::

Most people already have a Gold account. It's only $7.99/month.

You'll also have to have a Netflix account. So that's $17 or so a month to stream unlimited content from Netflix. Not bad. I'm curious as to the content though. I think their streaming stuff is SD, rather than HD.
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Re: Need a Gold account.

said by Matt3:

said by MrJames:

Engadget says you will need to spring for the Gold account to have access to Netflix.
::Shrug::

Most people already have a Gold account. It's only $7.99/month.

You'll also have to have a Netflix account. So that's $17 or so a month to stream unlimited content from Netflix. Not bad. I'm curious as to the content though. I think their streaming stuff is SD, rather than HD.
Except for those of us with multiple 360s being used as Extenders, paying an additional $7 per month ain't gonna happen here.

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Re: Need a Gold account.

said by jmallory:

said by Matt3:

said by MrJames:

Engadget says you will need to spring for the Gold account to have access to Netflix.
::Shrug::

Most people already have a Gold account. It's only $7.99/month.

You'll also have to have a Netflix account. So that's $17 or so a month to stream unlimited content from Netflix. Not bad. I'm curious as to the content though. I think their streaming stuff is SD, rather than HD.
Except for those of us with multiple 360s being used as Extenders, paying an additional $7 per month ain't gonna happen here.
Can you not sign in to your account twice? Why not just download it to your other 360?

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said by Matt3:

So that's $17 or so a month to stream unlimited content from Netflix.
My local Time Warner keeps upping the price and replacing content with shopping channels. Sometimes I wonder if their paid content covers the content they pay for, leaving all the money they get out of me to cover wire maintenance. Must be nice for them.

As attractive as $17 a month is I'm leery to throw any money into equipment and dumping my cable service, like I have with landline phone. Capping stands to put the kibosh to online video.

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Re: Need a Gold account.

said by Millenniumle:

said by Matt3:

So that's $17 or so a month to stream unlimited content from Netflix.
My local Time Warner keeps upping the price and replacing content with shopping channels. Sometimes I wonder if their paid content covers the content they pay for, leaving all the money they get out of me to cover wire maintenance.
Netflix doesn't [have to] cost $17 a month.
You can get unlimited streaming on the 1-per plan ($8.99).

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Re: Need a Gold account.

said by StreamFan :

said by Millenniumle:

said by Matt3:

So that's $17 or so a month to stream unlimited content from Netflix.
My local Time Warner keeps upping the price and replacing content with shopping channels. Sometimes I wonder if their paid content covers the content they pay for, leaving all the money they get out of me to cover wire maintenance.
Netflix doesn't [have to] cost $17 a month.
You can get unlimited streaming on the 1-per plan ($8.99).
I meant combined with the price of XBox Live Gold. I have the 1-per month now, so I was referring to the $9 Netflix and $8 XBL Gold subscriptions combined.

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said by Matt3:

I'm curious as to the content though. I think their streaming stuff is SD, rather than HD.
The content is not HD but they do stream content at 16:9 when it has been produced at that level. It's not as clear as true HD but not bad at least using the Roku box.

What Netflix needs to work on next is making the additional DVD content available through streaming so with that, higher resolution streaming and full sound they could get rid of DVDs.
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said by MrJames:

Engadget says you will need to spring for the Gold account to have access to Netflix.
Well I was excited by this for about five minutes then. I have two XBOX 360s (1 used as a Game Console / Extender with a Gold Account and one that is used just as an extender with a Silver account) and there is no way I am buying a 2nd Gold account just for NetFlix...luckily I can get NetFlix via Vista Media Center.
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Re: Need a Gold account.

put your xbl account on a memory card & move it to whichever box you're watching at the time.

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Re: Need a Gold account.

said by PSB:

put your xbl account on a memory card & move it to whichever box you're watching at the time.
He can also download his account to any other 360 and just select which profile he wants. The issue may be that if he wants to play a XBL game on one 360 and watch a movie on the other.
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Re: Need a Gold account.

said by Matt3:

said by PSB:

put your xbl account on a memory card & move it to whichever box you're watching at the time.
He can also download his account to any other 360 and just select which profile he wants. The issue may be that if he wants to play a XBL game on one 360 and watch a movie on the other.
That is one reason but how about because wanting to charge me another $7 a month just for the privilege of being able to stream NetFlix to another 360 is just plain dumb. What turned out to be maybe a very good feature versus the PS3, just became another way for MS to try to get another XBL Gold account subscription from me. nice try, no sale.

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Re: Need a Gold account.

said by jmallory:

That is one reason but how about because wanting to charge me another $7 a month just for the privilege of being able to stream NetFlix to another 360 is just plain dumb. What turned out to be maybe a very good feature versus the PS3, just became another way for MS to try to get another XBL Gold account subscription from me. nice try, no sale.
Are you able to play on Xbox Live using the same account on two different Xbox 360s at the same time?

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said by Matt3:

The issue may be that if he wants to play a XBL game on one 360 and watch a movie on the other.
I would imagine that would be quite difficult. Talk about multi-tasking.

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Re: Need a Gold account.

said by PSB:

said by Matt3:

The issue may be that if he wants to play a XBL game on one 360 and watch a movie on the other.
I would imagine that would be quite difficult. Talk about multi-tasking.
Not with multiple people in the house.

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said by MrJames:

Engadget says you will need to spring for the Gold account to have access to Netflix.
I just came from the broadcast as GS and it was said you also need a Netflix account.

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Re: Need a Gold account.

said by Chris 313:

said by MrJames:

Engadget says you will need to spring for the Gold account to have access to Netflix.
I just came from the broadcast as GS and it was said you also need a Netflix account.
So $50 a year for the gold XBL account and at least $108 a year for netflix. So $158 a year just to watch movies not counting the cost of said movies. Sounds like a deal!

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Re: Need a Gold account.

said by BF69:

said by Chris 313:

said by MrJames:

Engadget says you will need to spring for the Gold account to have access to Netflix.
I just came from the broadcast as GS and it was said you also need a Netflix account.
So $50 a year for the gold XBL account and at least $108 a year for netflix. So $158 a year just to watch movies not counting the cost of said movies. Sounds like a deal!
You don't pay to stream a movie and it's included in your Netflix sub at no charge. (Which you can rent Blu-Ray movies with too.)

So yes, it is a deal. XBox/Netflix users are getting this for free.

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Re: Need a Gold account.

said by Matt3:

You don't pay to stream a movie and it's included in your Netflix sub at no charge. (Which you can rent Blu-Ray movies with too.)

So yes, it is a deal. XBox/Netflix users are getting this for free.
If you don't already have Netflix or XBL account its not. It's $158 you're not currently paying. With PS3, guess what, you just pay for the movies you actually rent. You don't have to pay just for access. Which part of that don't you get? I don't have a Netflix account, so it's not FREE to me.

Sure for the tiny % of people that have both it's a bargin. For $158 one could rent 40 movies from Amazon Unbox.

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Re: Need a Gold account.

said by BF69:

said by Matt3:

You don't pay to stream a movie and it's included in your Netflix sub at no charge. (Which you can rent Blu-Ray movies with too.)

So yes, it is a deal. XBox/Netflix users are getting this for free.
If you don't already have Netflix or XBL account its not. It's $158 you're not currently paying. With PS3, guess what, you just pay for the movies you actually rent. You don't have to pay just for access. Which part of that don't you get? I don't have a Netflix account, so it's not FREE to me.

Sure for the tiny % of people that have both it's a bargin. For $158 one could rent 40 movies from Amazon Unbox.
You can still rent single movies from the Microsoft store. This is an additional service, not an exclusive one.

Additionally, if you have an XBox, you have to have a Gold subscription to play games via XBox Live, so all you'd have to have is a Netflix subscription, which 7 million people or so do. I have both, so I'm excited about this.

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Well I have a Netflix acount and a Gold Account so this sounds like it will benefit me. I watch movies on Netflix.com once in a while so this sounds very convenient.

My only issue is with the limited availability of movies to watch online thru Netflix.
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Re: Need a Gold account.

said by biggbrother:

My only issue is with the limited availability of movies to watch online thru Netflix.
Yeah, their selection is weak, but it sure would come in handy on a lazy day when nothing else is on. Especially since all the Netflix packages but one get unlimited streaming.

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Video quality suck

Who the heck uses this service? Its about the same quality as a youtube clip.

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Netflix?

Netflix?

Awesome!

Can you subscribe to netflix, or do you have to use points?

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Re: Netflix?

said by WiFiguru:

Netflix?

Awesome!

Can you subscribe to netflix, or do you have to use points?
I would hope to god this would just come from your Netflix Instant Viewing service.
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caps and overage plans

With all of these companies ramping up their delivery of broadband video (DirecTV "VOD" also comes to mind) ISP execs are probably eager to expedite their caps and overage plans.

I have been saying this for years. Caps have nothing to do with Bit Torrent, but have everything to do with services like this that are in direct competition with cables On Demand service.

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Re: caps and overage plans

For years? Caps have only recently begun to rear their ugly heads, but your point still stands (as has been mentioned numerous times elsewhere).

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Re: caps and overage plans

said by espaeth:

There's no way for Internet video to replace even 1% of standard video distribution with the technology being used today.

The Internet is simply augmenting existing distribution channels, not replacing them.
Sure with the technology being used today.

But what about tomorrow?

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Another Example

Here's another example on how CAPS will hurt progress. Netflix is not the only company trying to get into the VOD business. Many foreign TV stations that have a rather large immigrant base in the USA or Europe, but not necessarily a lot of TV in their language available - such as for instance Chinese or Philipinos - are starting to offer similar programs through add-ons in Windows Media Center Edition so your TV-connected PC can be used to stream media to your TV.

I see this as an added value, not as a TV replacement. I have already used online streaming to show SPEED SKATING on my Television because no US network carry any coverage of this sport, and I see online video capture a niche market outside the regular cable or satellite channels. And being able to watch them with things like XBox360 or a Media Center PC with the right plug-in, is a huge plus.

Especially with this kind of service I can see people watching several movies per week. Now I don't know what kind of compression there is, but if it is indeed "near DVD" as stated above, i would say that the movies are probably compressed to about 1 Gb per 90 minutes or so.

That'll be 10 Gb or so if you watch 8 to 10 movies a month, or 2 to 3 a week. Which is not that uncommon in modern households, especially during the "there-is-absolutely-nothing-on-TV" summer season.
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Sounds Great

Even as a Mac user, I have to admit this sounds pretty great. If the service ends up being as good as it sounds, I'll probably end up using my Xbox 360 for video rentals more than I currently use my AppleTV.

Other than that initial rash of hardware problems (which seem to have been sorted out), the Xbox is really an excellent example of something Microsoft got right.
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Nothing for Canada?

Wow, all these new TV shows and movies are great, oh wait if we aren't in the US we get nothing And they wonder why P2P is so popular, we have pretty much no alternative .

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Xbox better get 500GB drives...

Just read something else:

Marc Whitten reveals that you'll be able to copy full games and play them directly off the hard drive to shrink load times (and silence disc spinning), though you'll still need the game inserted so they know you own it.

NOW that is news! Bye bye continuous loud DVD drive...(except for authentication)
iampedro

join:2005-02-12
Houston, TX

Re: Xbox better get 500GB drives...

Sweet..... I look forward to having this and the update in the fall....

BF69
Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
said by cableties:

Just read something else:

Marc Whitten reveals that you'll be able to copy full games and play them directly off the hard drive to shrink load times (and silence disc spinning), though you'll still need the game inserted so they know you own it.

NOW that is news! Bye bye continuous loud DVD drive...(except for authentication)
Yep 20 GB will not be enough let alone 60 GB or even 120 GB. Too bad you can't just slap in any old 2.5" Sata HDD like you can with the PS3. $125 for a 250 GB vs $180 for MS 120 GB gimped HDD.

Mike00
Premium
join:2002-09-16
Tulsa, OK

E3 Video

Where can I find videos of the E3 highlights?

Cheese
Premium
join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
kudos:1

Vongo...

Bought a new HP Mediasmart TV, came with a 30 day trial of Vongo, they seem to have a lot of the recent movies, and 9.99 a month. Take me about 30-40 minutes to download a full movie and I can stream it wireless directly to my TV using Media Center

Queso

@rr.com

Re: Vongo...

said by Cheese:

Bought a new HP Mediasmart TV, came with a 30 day trial of Vongo, they seem to have a lot of the recent movies, and 9.99 a month. Take me about 30-40 minutes to download a full movie and I can stream it wireless directly to my TV using Media Center
Bought a Compaq laptop.
Still can't remove Vongo. Its worse that CoolWebSearch.

Never buying anything from Compaq or HP again.

Cheese
Premium
join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
kudos:1

Re: Vongo...

said by Queso :

said by Cheese:

Bought a new HP Mediasmart TV, came with a 30 day trial of Vongo, they seem to have a lot of the recent movies, and 9.99 a month. Take me about 30-40 minutes to download a full movie and I can stream it wireless directly to my TV using Media Center
Bought a Compaq laptop.
Still can't remove Vongo. Its worse that CoolWebSearch.

Never buying anything from Compaq or HP again.
Um
Zerny

join:2007-05-04
Fort Gratiot, MI

Wii

They should have this on the Wii, only make it interactive, so you could remove Cameron Diaz's top with the Wii mote.. for example.. good fun for dads and kids...
knkayotte

join:2001-02-02
Camp Verde, AZ

Watch now

Netflix's Watch now is the best implementation of VOD I've seen yet. Selection keeps growing and is by far the largest of anybody who has attempted internet based VOD.

I have also streamed the signal over a 47" LCD via my HTPC, picture looks almost as good as DVD.

I've been a Netflix customer for 3+ years and absolutely love their service. They have actually reduce the price of their service and added huge features. How many companies to that.
pandora
Premium
join:2001-06-01
Outland
kudos:1

Re: Watch now

Does your ISP have a cap?
Pictor Guy

join:2004-06-21
Sammamish, WA
said by knkayotte:

Netflix's Watch now is the best implementation of VOD I've seen yet. Selection keeps growing and is by far the largest of anybody who has attempted internet based VOD.

I have also streamed the signal over a 47" LCD via my HTPC, picture looks almost as good as DVD.

This is exactly why many of these services have a way to go. "almost as good as DVD" is not good enough. VHS was almost as good as DVD. Beta is almost as good as DVD. DVD is 480i! This is 2008! We have had HDTV for 10 years and NTSC is about to be put to rest. I don't want to go back to 1995 unless it's to invest in the stock market.

I would consider IPTV based VOD if it's at a minimum, 720p/1080i HD with 5.1 DD audio.

hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
Premium
join:2005-06-29
kudos:1

hummm

not one person has talked about the current 360 movies that are up now you can download now to the 360.

What is Ms going to do DUMP there system for netflix here?

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TooBadSoSad23

@comcast.net

Sux

I guess this means Netflix will never allow their streaming movies to be played on any platform other than Micro$oft.

As it stands right now, you must have Windows, IE, and WMP to watch Netflix movies online. The Netflix employees keep saying on their forums that they have a Mac and Linux version coming, but I bet this deal puts a nail in that coffin.

Micro$oft has a lock on Netflix, and I wouldn't be surprised if they buy them out. Just one more step in Micro$oft's quest to own the world. Up next: U.S. government. Oh wait, they already own them.

New to NetFlix

@textron.com

Re: Sux

NetFlix CEO Reed Hastings sits on Microsoft's Board of Directors so one would think that the two companies might work more closely (possibly exclusivly) than with the competitors. I don't think anyone expects Sony Pictures to release content to MS Live either. I don't mind having an Live Gold account to play games online. Because of the new deal with NetFlix I signed up for a free NetFlix trial. I like it so much (like classic network TV shows, they have alot of complete seasons to watch instantly) that I intend to keep the service. I have even bougth a Roku to use until it becomes available on Live. I think it's pretty cool I can take Netflix with me with both PC and MS Live Profile. Also using their DVD delivery service. I got the 1 dvd at a time.

Mr Anon

@k12.il.us

Great!

Now if only I could get Netflix to stop saying my new card is invalid >.

This is cool for people that don't have their PC connected to their TV and own a 360 this is great. I do already use my TV as my monitor so this is less of an impact but at least now if I want to go visit someone I can take my TV watch it now experience with me so long as they have broadband.

Walter White

join:2000-12-13
Seal Beach, CA

Re: Great!

Will they be streaming HD movies?

Mr Anon

@k12.il.us

Re: Great!

I have no idea, as the current watch it now system doesn't have any HD movies to my knowledge I wouldn't think so.

They do have a system that serves up a movie in varying qualities as your connection can handle but HD I wouldn't think so, then again I don't work for either company so I have no idea.

I also don't like the fact of requiring a gold account to use it.

jacquelinek

@mchsi.com

Can't my TV be a Monitor?

Why can't we just plug our computers into our TV's and use the TV as a monitor and stream just as we do on our PC's? I just bought a giant big screen (it is still in the box until my new carpet is installed - remodels take forever!)and I was planning to hook up my PC to it to watch Netflix that way. Are you guys saying I won't be able to do that? Will I have to buy the netflix box? -- Or should I return my new tv while I still can and get a different tv?? I do not have a game system, but I do have grandkids, so I could get one if that is what I need to do? Advise Please!!

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