Yahoo Tried to Fight Back Against PRISM Their Loss Set the Stage For Other Companies' Forced Compliance Monday Jun 17 2013 08:32 EDT As the PRISM story from last week mutates, it has been interesting to see how many of the Internet companies have fought NSA requests, completely unlike what we saw with AT&T and Verizon when it was exposed that they were allowing the NSA to split network fibers and monitor all traffic in real time. Google for example recently went out of their way to point out they refused NSA attempts to install their own gear on network, and now the New York Times reports that both Yahoo and Twitter also tried to fight secretive rubber-stamped FISA court requests. According to the Times, Yahoo's lost battle against the government set the precedent for other Silicon Valley companies to either follow suit, or to be held in violation of the law (something the NSA never seems to be despite lying repeatedly to Congress): quote:
Like almost all the actions of the secret court, which operates under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, the details of its disagreement with Yahoo were never made public beyond a heavily redacted court order, one of the few public documents ever to emerge from the court. The name of the company had not been revealed until now. Yahoo’s involvement was confirmed by two people with knowledge of the proceedings. Yahoo declined to comment.
The Times makes it clear that despite their bad reputation on some fronts for user privacy, many of Silicon Valley's biggest companies did actually try to put up a fight. That's a far cry from someone like AT&T, who not only didn't put up a fight, in many instances went out of its way to advise government on how to more easily break the law. |
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AT&T and VerizonJust got $10,000,000,000,000,000,000 in bad advertising. At least Yahoo, Google, Twitter, and others tried to resist . But in the end it will not matter people just don't care.  | |
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Re: AT&T and VerizonAll I have with them is email, I am migrating it off there as we speak. | |
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SecretSecret courts don't belong in a democracy or a Republic. | |
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Re: SecretAgreed. Very few secrets belong in those as well.
It is one thing to be designing a military defense system that you want to keep secret. But few things beyond that should be secret and spying on citizens or courts are certainly not one of those things. | |
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Re: SecretWelcome to Amerika. | |
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Re: SecretOne of my top movies! Long live Roddy Piper! | |
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I love his movie "MARKED MAN"!! | |
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Starting to see why Snowden went to China, not much difference these days. His dad want him to come home to live in a free country. Dad needs to catch the news. | |
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Re: Secretsaid by Andy from CA:Starting to see why Snowden went to China, not much difference these days. His dad want him to come home to live in a free country. Dad needs to catch the news.
Sadly, a LOT of sheeple in Amerika need to catch the news. | |
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The only secrets that should exist are ones that are actually important, The big companies all need to release this data all at once in one big lump through wikileaks style sites and then just claim they got hacked. | |
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arm your self Buy a gun or two
Government is scare of people with guns lol | |
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Re: arm your selfToo bad most leftists don't believe in the 2nd Amendment. They're the ones hollering the loudest about the NSA revelations, with a few (Rand Paul) exceptions, but they'd happily stomp all over the 2nd Amendment rather than deal with the underlying (poverty and the war on drugs) causes of gun violence. | |
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Re: arm your selfsaid by Crookshanks:Too bad most leftists don't believe in the 2nd Amendment. They're the ones hollering the loudest about the NSA revelations, with a few (Rand Paul) exceptions, but they'd happily stomp all over the 2nd Amendment rather than deal with the underlying (poverty and the war on drugs) causes of gun violence.
Too bad we do believe in the 2nd Amendment and also like to point out there is nobody crying and bitching on a nationwide about not being able to have missile launchers, recoilless cannons, fully automatic cannons, battleships, cruise missiles, and hundreds of other "arms" that are absolutely not legal in any working form in the United States of America to be owned by the public. Which all that clearly means is that it is fully legal and constitutional to prohibit the possession and use of some types of arms so long as access to other types of arms is allowed. So no, it is not unconstitutional to take away any specific type of firearm just like the current list of firearms that you cannot have. So in our ever evolving dictatorship it could be that some day you are only allowed to own or possess "the people's gun". The problem is that the missile launcher industry does not lobby the US gov't to allow citizens to to purchase these weapons to increase their profits. Money is the answer to almost everything in this country and and a wise person always follows the money. That is how it is. | |
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Re: arm your selfYou wanna take away "military style" firearms from the public? I'll get behind that when you also take them away from every civilian law enforcement agency, from the Hillbilly Sheriff to the Secret Service agents protecting the President.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If an AR-15 is truly a "military style" rifle then perhaps the military should be the only institution allowed to possess them? Ditto for "high capacity" magazines, and whatever else is scaring the gun-grabbers these days. | |
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Re: arm your selfthose hillbilly sheriffs are protected and often part of a secret nationwide platform across America - police agencies and sheriffs respond to a higher power, the US military, FBI, CIA, NSA, etc. They are pretty well damn organized and have access to nearly everything the "big boys got". Including shit like synthetic telepathy, energy weapons, etc. They control us, and I am in favor of disbanning these relationships. | |
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Amen! Let the nutters talk, any wonder why their party is striving for obscurity and people are leaving the GOP in droves? fear based politics are good for one thing, appealing to the fringe. | |
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