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Yankee Group: 1 In 8 To Scale Back Or Cut TV In 2010
The TV revolution is s slow but steady affair...
by Karl Bode Friday 30-Apr-2010 tags: Video · business · alternatives · cable · content
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According to the Yankee Group, one out of every eight traditional TV users has plans to either scale back their TV package -- or cancel service entirely. While much has been made of "cord cutting," most TV users (and just over 90% of U.S. households subscribe to some form of pay TV) have held on to their TV service despite the recession and sometimes bi-annual rate hikes. This latest study however suggests that high prices and an increase in broadband video platforms (specifically game consoles) are slowly changing things.

"Admittedly, this is a small phenomenon now, but a number or recent transactions and new items point to a shift in consumer thinking," said Vince Vittore, analyst at Yankee Group and author of the study. However, it's a young shift. Consumers who do cut off pay TV services will most likely be in the 18-34 age group -- and heavy mobile users or gamers notes the firm.

"At the most basic level, the decision to cut off pay TV services is an economic one," says Vince Vittore, principal analyst and co-author of the report. "As programmers continue to demand ever higher fees, which inevitably get passed on to consumers, we believe more consumers will be forced to consider coax-cutting."

As we recently just discussed at length, while Internet video may ultimately pose a threat to traditional TV services -- it isn't much of one at the moment. TV ad revenues still absolutely tower over online video -- and the two are still currently seen by consumers as complimentary. Still, an inevitable explosion in cheap and easy broadband video services, an increase in last mile broadband speeds, and endless TV rate hikes all lead down one fairly obvious path.

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en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA

cutting the cord

quote:
Consumers who do cut off pay TV services will most likely be in the 18-34 age group -- and heavy mobile users or gamers.
I would tend to agree. The more 'mobile' group will either TiVo (DVR) a show or watch it on Hulu or some other form than have a TV subscription.
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pandora
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Re: cutting the cord

DirecTV gave me a $20 off deal for all the movie channels. It works out to about free movie channels for 6 months. According to my understanding of the offer, the $20 off is good for 6 months, but I can cancel all my movie channels without charge after May 10.

I had called to cancel HBO when they made this offer. I'll now cancel the entire lot on May 11, and just use Netflix for my movie needs. Between that and Hulu, I'm a happy camper.
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xenophon

join:2007-09-17

Re: cutting the cord

I got rid of pay movie channels last year and use Netflix/Hulu. I'd like to cut the cord entirely but want Discovery/NatGeo/History channels. I'll cut entirely when these offer all content in some streaming manner via someone like Hulu or Playon. Want it in HD though.

I can't justify paying $140 for cable with 7Mbps connection when I only watch 5-6 channels. I can afford it but it's ridiculous that I'm still on cable.

Clear WiMAX is coming to my area this summer, will try it with Netflix. If all good, I'll probably pull the plug on cable. Just hope Discovery/NatGeo/History channels offer streaming soon. I'd be willing to pay $5-$10/month per network.
pandora
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Re: cutting the cord

I've got free cable from Comcast, at least basic service (local channels, cnn, fox, msnbc, nick, blah), but don't watch them. Only the locals are in HD, and I can't stand the snow on our cable SD signals. We've become addicted to DirecTV DVR's. Netflix was planned for the new Vizio 55" announced last Spring (IIRC). I converted to Comcast starter business back in June in anticipation for it. I wish youtube and hulu were on the Vizio widget selection, if they aren't added by the fall when the 72" set comes out, I may look at LG, as they seem to at least have a youtube widget and are in a similar price class.

Until I can get the cable news feeds live and recorded on the same day, I'll need at least some form of basic service. After that, I can go internet only.
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Jim Gurd
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join:2000-07-08
Plymouth, MI
I already did. TV is a luxury I can't afford right now. I also switched to DSL from cable and save about $30 per month.
bumwolf

join:2007-04-21
Florence, AL
I was teetering on cutting the cord. Tonight's mess with not being able to get the weather on the weather channel during a tornado outbreak because they were showing a movie made up my mind. Seems like all the channels nowadays are cross pollinating. Movies on news and information channels. Live action on cartoon channels. Reality TV shows on music channels. Think the only channel sticking to it's description these days is Discovery and I fear it's days are numbered. Cable gives me no reason to slap down 60 bucks a month for it anymore. More reruns, more infomercials, and more reality tv. Forget it I'm cutting the cord.
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OCP
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join:2004-10-11
USA

Re: cutting the cord

Man, that is annoying when the wind and hail is pounding on the roof and you run to see the radar/satellite image. We are lucky to have an alternate station with radar running most of the day. But, sometimes it's faster to boot the computer and go to a weather website than to turn on the Weather Channel and hope they aren't running fluff programming.

Remember when SciFi used to be primarily Science Fiction? Now they have wrestling and B grade horror movies most of the time.

The ONLY way you can watch TV anymore is with a DVR/HTPC. You can set it to watch stuff while you sleep or doing other stuff and then skip through the crap and commercials later.

I just scaled back my cable to basic cable. I need to watch two or three shows a week and they aren't online yet. I'll miss Discovery, Comedy Central, SyFy (ugh) and some others occasionally, but it's not worth $40/month. Plus they're forcing the DTA/cable box issue on us now...

grydlok

join:2004-01-06
Richmond, VA

I scaled back

I still have Sat, I just got rid of the movie channels.
I was hoping new cable cards will come out so I can make a on pc run the entertainment for the house and really save money.
NeoandGeo

join:2003-05-10
Harrison, TN

Re: I scaled back

I scaled back in the exact same way. My next move will be back to cable more than likely since they give some very nice "suicide deals" in my area. Hopefully in a year or so their HD lineup will look better.

Kommie
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said by grydlok:

I still have Sat, I just got rid of the movie channels.
I was hoping new cable cards will come out so I can make a on pc run the entertainment for the house and really save money.
Same here cut down to the basic package and watch everything on the PCs now.
Bobcat
Premium
join:2001-02-04

I canceled last September

Cablevision was charging me $54/month for a whopping 45 analog channels, so I canceled. Switching to digital service (to get more channels) would have increased my cost to over $83 per month. No way I'm paying that much for TV.

icp1
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join:2000-10-13
Saint Louis, MO

no cable here

Yep, dropped cable, and just use OTA and Tivo (Lifetime) so an upfront cost already sunk and no monthly costs anymore. We love it!
caco
Premium
join:2005-03-10
Whittier, AK

Would cut the cord if it wasn't for kid shows

Viacom has Nick hostage so clips on Hulu are not worth the wait.

If I could just get alacarte Nick and Cartoon Network via the internet,Sat would be gone.
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ThrowDemsOut
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Mullica Hill, NJ
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Report recognizes source of higher costs

Vince Vittore, principal analyst and co-author of the report. "As programmers continue to demand ever higher fees, which inevitably get passed on to consumers,
It is good to see an official independent study recognize the fact that the MAIN source of higher fees is the unrelenting increase in costs from Hollywood and NOT the delivery of the content.
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n1zuk
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Malta
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Tech Savvy

It depends on how "Tech Savvy" one is, to cut the cable TV subscription.

It it was just me alone at home, I'd drop my TV sub in an instant. My 11 yo son picks up most new tech stuff quickly, but my wife is just not technology-friendly -- she still sometimes has problems switching from the TV to the DVD player, even with the do-it-all-for-you Harmony remote.

This is a likely reason the younger demographic is much more likely to cut the TV cable.
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Re: Tech Savvy

said by n1zuk:

It depends on how "Tech Savvy" one is, to cut the cable TV subscription.

It it was just me alone at home, I'd drop my TV sub in an instant. My 11 yo son picks up most new tech stuff quickly, but my wife is just not technology-friendly -- she still sometimes has problems switching from the TV to the DVD player, even with the do-it-all-for-you Harmony remote.

This is a likely reason the younger demographic is much more likely to cut the TV cable.
I’m not exactly sure what being tech savvy has to do with it. I’m 24, and grew up with technology. I’ve had a computer at home with internet access since I was 10. I have multiple computers, PDAs, my printer and iPhone all networked, a pretty sweet home theater system (not a true HT but I have some decent components), and tons of little goofy gadgets. I even had an iPod before they became super popular. I love technology and can figure my way around anything with a few clicks and I have a cable bill that will rival most. (Upwards of $300/month when the sports season packages are on).

I love TV and I love the internet, but IMO, they do not mix well. I do not want to watch to watch TV on my computer and I don’t want internet on my TV. Sorry I have no use for Hulu, or worse YouTube. Who the hell in their right mind would want to watch crappy flash video on an HDTV? I find it painful enough on my little iPhone screen. Free streaming from the networks (ABC, NBC, CBS) websites suck as there may be limited commercials, but you can’t skip past them. And why the hell would I want to watch TV on my 22” PC monitor when I have a 42” TV and 55” TV to enjoy. Watching TV on a computer absolutely BLOWS! And as far as outputting an HDMI signal from a video card to an HDTV, why? Most video on the web is windowed by default, and requires clicks to become full screen. ‘Hold on honey, let me find the mouse so we can actually see the video’. Fuckin’ retarded if you ask me. Traditional pay TV just works and is pretty seamless. Want to watch a different show? Change the channel. As opposed to surfing to another website or navigating through some file tree in the case of saved video.

Plus there’s the content. I like to channel surf, that’s how I’ve discovered a lot of programming. With no channels, it makes it kind of difficult. And then there’s the whole topic of sports. And OTA is next to useless. I want more than a half a dozen channels.
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krommulent

join:2010-04-07

Re: Tech Savvy

i agree whole heartedly, i dont always know what sounds interesting until i see a large selection laid out before me. to do that online is time consuming and not as passive a viewing experience that i want
wilburyan

join:2002-08-01
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While I agree that watching tv episodes in flash is really lame... I don't think that's what he was refering to. I download almost ALL of the shows we watch... and I download them as 720p HDTV. Fringe, Lost, Breaking Bad, Stargate Universe, Dexter, Big Bang Theory... and whatever else we miss.

With RSS feeds they download automaticially... so If it was on TV... I have it (almost like a tivo setup )

The computer in the living room is connected to the TV with a HDMI cable. When we are watching a downloaded tv show... you can't tell it isn't live tv unless you pause it... the quality is the same.

As for navigating some file tree... We bought a $20 windows home cinema remote and IR dongle. No fiddlin around with a mouse or constantly having to get up and pick the next show. XBMC from XBMC.org is an awesome addition to any home cinema.

shasinka

@charter.com

Re: Tech Savvy

do tell, is what you are doing legal? I mean it is someone's livelihood you are dealing with, I am all for knocking of all the large bills but if someone pirated the software that my company wrote then I would be out of a job.
wilburyan

join:2002-08-01

Re: Tech Savvy

*shrugs* Most of the shows are available on the TV that we pay for... but with work / life you can't always be around to watch them.

We don't have a PVR... but the result is the same.
shashinka

join:2000-09-16
West Boylston, MA

Re: Tech Savvy

Still interested. I have thought about dropping my TV bill. But Hulu quality is just not there for HD. I want my 720P!
tjb122982

join:2009-09-22
Terre Haute, IN
I think you hit on the head as far as I'm concerned. I would cut cable but I would miss out on a lot of sports; mainly due to the sports leagues and their stupid blackout rules. Also, not being able to surf would allow me to miss new things but then that could viewed as a good thing because I even think I watch too much TV. Netflix does seem like a good alternative to HBO and the other movie channels but then you would have to wait longer in order for the DVD's for the original programming. To me, cutting the cord is more of something that I might do in a few years, not right now.
jus10

join:2009-08-04
Sterling, VA

Anyone who's followed the Yankee Group ...

would immediately dismiss anything any of their reports say.

Their reputation is worthless.

bionicRod

join:2009-07-06
united state
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·Mediacom

Still worth it to me...

I pay right around $100 a month for Mediacom's VIP service (voice, 10mb internet and digital cable). We bought a 42 inch HDTV a couple of years back and I love the programs in hi def. The experience is still worth the price to me. I know, of course, that I may have to rethink the next time they raise rates (the last time they tried to raise to $140 a month with no increase in service; I threatened to cut the cord and they demurred).

Jason Levine
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USA

Considered It

We've considered it and the coax cable has been spared... for now. But I'm finding that we're watching less and less cable TV. My kids watch DVDs rented from the library or from Netflix. We watch on demand programming via Netflix Streaming to our Roku box. And we have some on demand videos (obtained legally, I should add) for the kids on a hard drive for them to watch on our CinemaTube.

There are some shows that I like watching that I rely on cable for. Some of those are on Amazon VOD (e.g. Mythbusters season pass for about $45) and we could buy those while still saving money but some aren't.

Still, we're constantly reexamining whether cable goes or stays. It's only a matter of time before we cut it and save almost $45 a month.
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SLD
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join:2002-04-17
San Francisco, CA

I must be getting older...

I dropped cable a couple years ago out of frustration over the high fees and poor quality DVRs Comcast provided. Audio would frequently drop out every few seconds, and numerous trade-ins solved nothing.

Our media center PC receives OTA and I've found that I mostly watch PBS content. Heck, I even donated this year.
The HBO/Showtime series I'd like to watch (but refuse to pay a basic cable package for on top of the premium fees) are caught on Netflix 9 months later.

Of course, with Netflix now distributing DVDs that force us to watch 10 minutes of previews (skip and FF disabled) before the content, I'm just using my friend DVD Shrink when I get the disc, then watch it the way I want. This stupid decision by the studios promotes further piracy (why delete it once it is ripped), so it is their loss.
jheis

join:2008-12-13
Grandview, MO

Re: I must be getting older...

Most DVD players have a button on the remote control labeled "Title" or "Disk Menu" or similar which will enable you to skip the DVD previews before watching the film.

SLD
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join:2002-04-17
San Francisco, CA

Re: I must be getting older...

Not to be rude, but, No Duhhh!
These newer DVDs have those features locked-out so you can't skip the promotional materials. Even the FF button is disabled by the DVD programming. Really crappy idea.
jheis

join:2008-12-13
Grandview, MO

Re: I must be getting older...

SLD: the feature has worked for every recent DVD I have received from Netflix. Perhaps you have a dumb DVD player or you are getting different DVDs to watch.

SLD
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join:2002-04-17
San Francisco, CA

Re: I must be getting older...

Try renting the recent Sherlock Holmes - even the reviews on Netflix are populated with complaints. Here comes the "future"...

I've tried it on a number of DVD systems, including Windows 7 Media Center.

satsamestuff

@verizon.net

directv no better

I pay 63.98 a month for 250 channels and 90% of the channels are useless to me and the other 10 % just give the same thing over and over again and the same shows each month over and over one day a show is on one channel the next day on the other which i pay extra for .
It's kinda useless to have the extra channels because it on the cheaper plan anyway, and if you wait a day or so you'll get the same show anyway at the cheaper price.
I'm in the process of creating my own programming thru youtube which does give full length shows i like,when i get 200 hours of programming set in a playlist i'm dropping the service and using my convert box i got from the fed last year.
I do not need to pay for rerun after rerun,when i can choose and and pick my own reruns for free. what these companies refuse to see is that the party is over and the public has a choice and not locked into pay for all tv system.

pnh102
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD

Also Considering It

At some point, if finances permit, I'd like to get an OTA outdoor antenna and an HTPC. If we can get the TV we like using that, and a combination of Hulu (even if it is a paid subscription) and Netflix then I think we'd be all set. It would save us at least $50 a month.
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DrModem
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USA
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TV

Don't see the point, I can get anything I would want TV on the internet, sans annoying commercials.

dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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Phoenix, AZ
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Re: TV

said by DrModem:

Don't see the point, I can get anything I would want TV on the internet, sans annoying commercials.
exactly why theres caps: cord cutters!
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ShellMMG

join:2009-04-16
Grass Lake, MI

Long Time Customer

Our family has been with DirecTV for 14 years. I would love to scale back our package and probably will after our youngest graduates and heads off to college (next year). I rarely watch TV anymore -- if I do it's for a special even or BluRay movies -- and would love to lower my bill.

If we had the option for ala carte programming it would be terrific...Discovery, Discovery Travel, History Channel, BBCA, Fox News, TWC...I could think of 10-15 I'd want, the rest is drek and gets blocked.

And I can't go ISP only. We don't and never will have cable/FIOS. WiMax...maybe.

hurleyp

join:2000-06-20
Ottawa, ON

Slimming down

I'm on BellTV satellite TV here in Canada, and I will be trimming down soon. BellTV usually packages 1 or 2 good channels with several crappy channels in each bundle. I don't subscribe to any of the premium movie packages, nor do I purchase PPV. I may end up losing 1 or 2 channels I generally like, but the cost getting keeps going up while the quality goes down.
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wilburyan

join:2002-08-01
Reviews:
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Re: Slimming down

If you've been with bell for awhile and are no longer under contract... call them to cancel entirely. They will offer you a retention package that scrapes off quite a few bucks depending on how much you are currently paying.

Sometimes they will also throw in the free rental of a HD-PVR receiver.

dellsweig
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Campbell Hall, NY
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google TV anyone???

»scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2010/04/30···hpt=Sbin
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welcome2web

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welcome to the web former cable subscribers!

»www.zeropaid.com/links/bittorrent/onlinetv/

»filesharefreak.com/2008/03/04/sp···-sports/

my fave...

www.eztv.it

If you *MUST* buy an OTA decoder and/or digital amplified antenna for cbs/abc/nbc/fox/upn/pbs/etc

fifty nine

join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
kudos:1

Not an option for many here

Unfortunately most here are outside of the reach of OTA reception. My antenna has to be on a tower to get any signals.

So most people around here will be keeping cable or dish.

Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
Premium
join:2004-01-06
NYC Metro

Re: Not an option for many here

said by fifty nine:

Unfortunately most here are outside of the reach of OTA reception. My antenna has to be on a tower to get any signals.

So most people around here will be keeping cable or dish.
In Sussex, NJ? You guys are so high up...

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k7baw
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Not A Total Cut

I have removed the HD box and will return it to Cox this weekend. We are keeping the basic cable and extended cable because we enjoy the USA, TNT, Spike and HGTV channels that require more than basic. While I like the HD quality, Cox continues to be unconcerned about their shitty Closed Captioning on HD. It is perfect on the analog and clear QAM, but it unusable much of the time on any or all HD channels. Since I have a major hearing loss, CC is absolutely needed to keep the domestic tranquility. Repeated reports, complaints and communications are either ignored or responded to by a paid talking mouth. Problem has persisted for over a year. So I vote with my wallet and a short string of curses . HSI is awesome, and I wonder why they can't fix the HD CC.
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hurleyp

join:2000-06-20
Ottawa, ON

Re: Not A Total Cut

There is something special about HD CC via satellite/cable that is different from OTA. With BellTV, the only way to view CC is via the satellite receiver - my HD Sony Bravia won't show it otherwise. Maybe someone who understands CC can provide some details.
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