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join:2001-03-09
Saint Petersburg, FL | don tuse it I dunno why
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Fountainhead
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join:2003-10-25
New York, NY
clubs: | Re: don tuse it How can YouTube afford to stream all this data?
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King P
Don't blame me. I voted for Ron Paul
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join:2004-11-17
Inman, SC | Re: don tuse it Investments from dot bom venture capitalists.
It was in Business 2.0 a few months ago but they received several million in cash from some Silicon Valley venture capital firm. | |
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peter_m
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join:2005-07-13
Canada, QC
| Re: don tuse it Gotta be expensive! Wonder what the revenue model will be. Are they going to sell the vids to someone looking for content? Are they going to create an adult section with fees? I haven't seen one single add on that site... which I enjoy but how will they survive? Unless it's just a social experiment and when the funds run out, they pull the plug? That can't be right... | |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
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1 edit | LOL! "... how YouTube gets away with hosting a plethora of copyrighted content clips without facing legal trouble."
Simple! The videos are so grainy/pixelated that they cannot be confused with the originals!
A digital copy with 3 out of every 5 bits missing... 
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join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
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| Re: LOL! said by dadkins  :"... how YouTube gets away with hosting a plethora of copyrighted content clips without facing legal trouble." Simple! The videos are so grainy/pixelated that they cannot be confused with the originals! A digital copy with 3 out of every 5 bits missing... Whether you were joking, I don't know, but I have a feeling that's one nail you hit squarely on the head. | |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
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| Re: LOL! No, I'm dead serious!
Try watching one of those small, pixelated, wornout videos on a high res screen.
Here... see what I have to look at on YouTube(see pic)
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AB
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join:2006-04-04
Leesburg, VA
| said by dadkins :"...The videos are so grainy/pixelated that they cannot be confused with the originals! A digital copy with 3 out of every 5 bits missing... Yeah, but thank God they're there!
I love youtube!  | |
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inteller
Sociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK
1 edit | Oh REALLY? Then how come the RIAA and MPAA cares about thepiratebay.com then? After all they are just hosting the links, they make no promises about the content? Does it mean that if thepiratebay removes the ads off of link pages everyone will leave them alone?
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join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL | Re: Oh REALLY? I'd imagine that the xxAA look at thepiratebay.com people as contributory infringers, not actual infringers. | |
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Fluker
join:2005-04-07
West Lafayette, IN
| Another thing is that youtube content is of lower quality and wrapped very nicely in flash as well as requiring streaming to watch. TPB on the other hand directs you to copies that are very sometimes lossless (DVD isos, flac etc) and are very ready to be transferred to other media. | |
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snipper_cr
join:2002-01-22
Wheaton, IL
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| Actually I watched something about this on NBC. Apparently there was some copyrighted material from NBC on youtube and this pissed NBC off and they started the paper work to get it down. Until it was noted by some high brass that youtube was actually INCREASING populatrity so they decided not to pursuit it.
"Fight copyright infringement!!!!....unless it benifits our company than its all good."
was the message they were portraying about it. | |
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Alpine
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join:2000-01-11
Atlanta, GA | Re: YouTube will be sued by big players soon Maybe, but I see it as ending up like BitTorrent. After being the pirates' hero for years, Cohen is now working with the powers-that-be to legitimize BT.
Look for the same with YouTube.
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join:2005-11-26 | Re: YouTube will be sued by big players soon "After being the pirates' hero for years, Cohen is now working with the powers-that-be to legitimize BT."
Sooner or later, regardless of what they say in the meantime, they ALL go/sell out for the money. | |
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| moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
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| said by GOLFnSUN :YouTube has been using the ISP dodge to host coyrighted material. But you can bet every nickel that the MPAA and the RIAA and the Hollywood studios and TV networks can muster that an all out legal attack is in the planning stages. And as the reporter at » arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20···273.html says: "YouTube, as a kind of Internet software, is "designed and promoted to aid in infringement" (to borrow language from the ruling). You may recall the the Supreme Court Justices pinged Grokster for failing to "develop filtering tools or other mechanisms to diminish the infringing activity using their software." Funny thing is NBC did a story about them and they know their clips are there and they leave them be because the free advertising is better than anything they pay for.
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Jason Levine
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join:2001-07-13
USA
| Actually, the article's exact quote is:
While not exactly the same thing, it is important to note that the legitimate uses of P2P did not, in the end, protect Grokster. Rather, the ruling in Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios v. Grokster left open the very real possibility that a disgruntled copyright holder could argue that YouTube, as a kind of Internet software, is "designed and promoted to aid in infringement" (to borrow language from the ruling). You may recall the the Supreme Court Justices pinged Grokster for failing to "develop filtering tools or other mechanisms to diminish the infringing activity using their software."
The reporter isn't presenting this argument as his own, but as a hypothetical argument that a potential RIAA/MPAA lawsuit might take. (With the idea being that YouTube would need to develop some content filtering technology to keep the infringing videos from being uploaded.)
The big debate will not be over the 5-10 minute clips of shows being put online in a grainy, tiny video clip, but over amateur music videos. On one hand, the song *is* copyrighted. On the other hand, the music quality is often poor. (Or so I've heard not having viewed them myself.) A potential pirate would probably be better off finding the latest song on their favorite P2P network than finding a video for it on YouTube, playing it, ripping the poor quality audio, and possibly doing some clean up work to get it into relatively decent shape.
IMO, there are bigger threats to the music industry than some 14 year old armed with a video camera who thinks that they are a great singer/dancer. And considering that the music industry really isn't losing any money off of these videos, they would be better off using their legal funds in other matters. | |
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join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA
| Re: YouTube will be sued by big players soon I don't think the RIAA has much grounds for complaint; the idea that their copyright (which is in the recording, not the music) is being unfairly infringed by an amateur music video is pretty weak; it might even be fair use. The OTHER music mafia -- that is, ASCAP et al -- has a much better case. | |
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GOLFnSUN
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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| Re: YouTube will be sued by big players soon Thanks for update. My guess that YouTube would be sued wasn't long in coming. | |
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Jason Levine
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join:2001-07-13
USA
| Re: YouTube will be sued by big players soon Tur didn't ask that the company remove the clip prior to filing his suit, YouTube said.
If this is true, then IMO Tur doesn't have much of a case. His first recourse should have been to notify the content provider (YouTube) of the infringing video. If they didn't remove the infringing video, then he would have grounds to sue them. You really can't expect a service provider like YouTube to watch every single video that was uploaded and recognize all content infringements. | |
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xerxes3642
join:2006-02-24
Saint Charles, MO | they delete stuff because they delete anything that is flagged as copywrited. You can go on and e-mail a complaint about anybody's video calling it copyrighted and they delete it no question and wait for the owner to protest. | |
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join:2004-05-13
San Francisco, CA
| Re: they delete stuff said by xerxes3642 :because they delete anything that is flagged as copywrited. You can go on and e-mail a complaint about anybody's video calling it copyrighted and they delete it no question and wait for the owner to protest. exactly. if the so called media owners weren't so lazy, they could just hire a couple people to go through youtube daily to look for their property. | |
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morbo
Complete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
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clubs: | Re: they delete stuff i don't think it's laziness. i think it's money. they don't want to pay for that. BUT they'll pay some lawyers out the ass to sue them in a few months-years. what a scam.
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Augustus III
If Only Rome Could See Us Now....
join:2001-01-25
Gainesville, GA
| Re: they delete stuff said by morbo :i don't think it's laziness. i think it's money. they don't want to pay for that. BUT they'll pay some lawyers out the ass to sue them in a few months-years. what a scam. the lawyers are working on a salary. whether or not they have cases or not they are being paid. so naturally, they want them to work | |
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morbo
Complete Your Transaction
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clubs: | Re: they delete stuff true, but the client is billed out the ass for it still. so...
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Trinijoy
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join:2005-09-12
Brick, NJ
2 edits | Really? When does showing a movie become illegal? What happens if I show an 1:29:32 of the movie? Since I didn't show the whole movie is it still illegal?
That's like me typing a cuss word here:
f--k! Are you insulted for me saying FK?
Fick? Hmm.
No.
That's like not putting the chocolate chips in when making cookies. Is it considered the whole thing, are they considered chocolate chip cookies?
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join:2004-03-02
Chilliwack, BC | Re: Really? CBS is also trying to sign a deal with YOUTUBE just like NBC did | |
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| greppy15
join:2004-04-12
Ripon, WI
1 edit | Um easy there, "Fick" is the German word for the f-word, but YouTube just isn't all copyrighted stuff as said earlier, people make their own videos and want to get viewed, heard of "Brookers"? Lol, I've never seen an entire video on there, it's just clips, so if you were to say that these clips were illegal, then what are movie trailers? | |
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YouTube Dodges the Copyright Cops
YouTube will be sued by big players soon