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join:2004-01-12
Council Bluffs, IA | Workarounds incoming... I'd rather not have a camera (or anything like a camera) watching me watch what I watch on TV. There will be easy workarounds to this if it comes to light. | |
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join:2001-03-05
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kudos:1 | Re: Workarounds incoming... said by Jonbo298:I'd rather not have a camera (or anything like a camera) watching me watch what I watch on TV. There will be easy workarounds to this if it comes to light. It already exists. It's called electrical tape.  | |
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join:2008-01-29
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kudos:1 | Re: Workarounds incoming...  The weasels will use the camera as the receiver for the remote control. No camera no remote. | |
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join:2001-03-05
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kudos:1 | Re: Workarounds incoming... Bike reflector? | |
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kudos:2 | Re: Workarounds incoming... said by milnoc:Bike reflector? sheat of glass will BLOCK IR | |
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join:2001-03-05
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kudos:1 | Re: Workarounds incoming... It's made of plastic just like the lens of the IR emitter on the remote. | |
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join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:5 | IR emitter/receiver. Yes it would be a nuisance, but not a terribly expensive one. | |
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anyways, NOT gonna happen. | |
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| | patcat88
join:2002-04-05
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kudos:1 | said by milnoc:said by Jonbo298:I'd rather not have a camera (or anything like a camera) watching me watch what I watch on TV. There will be easy workarounds to this if it comes to light. It already exists. It's called electrical tape. Your assuming the average american has any engineering knowledge. | |
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|  ThrowDemsOutIf you can't convince 'em, confuse 'emPremium
join:2002-03-03
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kudos:4 | said by Jonbo298:I'd rather not have a camera (or anything like a camera) watching me watch what I watch on TV. There will be easy workarounds to this if it comes to light. Like a piece of black electrical tape over the camera. | |
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| | | | Re: Workarounds incoming... on mythbusters, they demonstrated a plate of glass was able to block IR light coming from a person. i'm not sure if it would also block the remote's signal. | |
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| | | | | Re: Workarounds incoming... Ummm...no. You misunderstood what MythBusters said, or they used incorrect terminology. I have loads of CCD cameras with a glass lens and it can see people with IR illumination just fine.
BTW, some formulations of Lexan (tm) will block IR and pass visible light, but not near as effective as a "hot mirror" filter made of glass and a new plastic formulation from Lee Filters.
They might have been talking about thermal imagery which can be blocked by glass. My thermal cameras have sapphire lenses. | |
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join:2005-11-26
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| I'll just walk in front of it nekkid a few times... It's been known to break mirrors, and standard cameras. Should be a good test of my ugliness.
Heck, if I walk around nekkid when I am watching TV, they might just shut the damn thing off if they get tired of seeing my ugly self all the time!
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join:2001-03-25
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| Re: Workarounds incoming... said by roc5955:I'll just walk in front of it nekkid a few times... It's been known to break mirrors, and standard cameras. Should be a good test of my ugliness. Heck, if I walk around nekkid when I am watching TV, they might just shut the damn thing off if they get tired of seeing my ugly self all the time! Yep, gross them out.  | |
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| | | | | | Re: Workarounds incoming... said by antdude:said by roc5955:I'll just walk in front of it nekkid a few times... It's been known to break mirrors, and standard cameras. Should be a good test of my ugliness. Heck, if I walk around nekkid when I am watching TV, they might just shut the damn thing off if they get tired of seeing my ugly self all the time! Yep, gross them out. Do that, and it wouldn't surprise me if the TV turns to an Adult channel and charges you $19.99. | |
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Screw the work arounds just don't do business with a company that spies on you.
ding ding ding... we have a winner. | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | All Telco TV and Digital Cable TV boxes already spy on every remote button press/every thing you do. And they already sell anonymous data on every website link you visit. | |
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| | |  en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Workarounds incoming... Yeah - I have Digital TV / TWC (DirecTV couldn't spy - no telephone plugged in ), however, I don't use the box. Sadly enough, I save a few $$/month just by having it... plugged in or not. | |
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| |  nixenRockin' the BoxenPremium
join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA | said by anon66670 :
Screw the work arounds just don't do business with a company that spies on you.
That would mean not doing business with an ever growing number of businesses. There's now grocery (and other stores) that use shoppers' cell phone signals to track them through the stores. Some stores have started using their security cameras with facial recognition software to try to determine shoppers' product preferences. It's really kind of creepy. The DVR companies are just trying to get in on a game that's already well under way.
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join:2002-04-05
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kudos:1 | said by footballdude:Do they seriously think anyone will go for this? Very, very, very few people would want a camera of any kind in their home, for any reason. Even if they get the technology to work, this is DOA. Who would know? Say its the "remote sensor array", don't like it? don't get subscriber TV.
Nobody seems to protest that the cell phone company knows where you phone is 24/7 to a 2000 foot radius, GSM or CDMA. Latency from phone to antenna sector plus aim of the cell tower antenna sector. I'm not talking about triangulation or the AGPS chip. Just sitting on the paging channel will make you give away your position to a 4 intersection radius. | |
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| | en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Wait, what? And how many of us (using the term loosely)
have the following:
1. Cellphone(s) with built in camera
2. PC/Laptop with webcam | |
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| | | | | Re: Wait, what? said by en102:And how many of us (using the term loosely) have the following: 1. Cellphone(s) with built in camera 2. PC/Laptop with webcam The difference would be that you can decide when those cameras are on.
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join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA | Re: Wait, what? said by footballdude:said by en102:And how many of us (using the term loosely) have the following: 1. Cellphone(s) with built in camera 2. PC/Laptop with webcam The difference would be that you can decide when those cameras are on. You want to bet on that? So long as there's juice flowing through the phone, someone can hijack the mic or camera. The FBI has already admitted that they've used peoples turned-off cell phone's to gather audio surveillance.
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join:2004-08-03
Keller, TX
1 edit | Re: Wait, what? quote:
The FBI has already admitted that they've used peoples turned-off cell phone's to gather audio surveillance.
Got a link?
I'd love to know how a phone with no power can transmit audio. Maybe it only works if you're wearing a tinfoil hat... | |
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join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA | Re: Wait, what? said by Thespis: quote:
The FBI has already admitted that they've used peoples turned-off cell phone's to gather audio surveillance.
Got a link? »news.cnet.com/2100-1029_3-6140191.html
There's others that go into more specific detail.
said by Thespis: I'd love to know how a phone with no power can transmit audio. Maybe it only works if you're wearing a tinfoil hat... If you've got a battery in your phone, there's juice flowing through it. Only way to fully turn off a mobile phone is to remove the battery.
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I used to work on the systems that helped make this possible.
The phones can e hijacked to send data back on all networks. The same system that allows sms messaging also allows phone tracking.
Some companies even have this worked into their phone triangulation software to provide up to the minute traffic congestion reports to their subscribers.
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join:2001-08-30
Oklahoma City, OK | said by footballdude:Do they seriously think anyone will go for this? Very, very, very few people would want a camera of any kind in their home, for any reason. Even if they get the technology to work, this is DOA. That's why there will be no mention of the word "camera" in the documentation about the receiver. Most customer wont have a clue it is there. I bet it will have a spiffy name like "intelligent user customization processor". | |
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| | nixenRockin' the BoxenPremium
join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA | Re: Wait, what? said by SrsBsns:said by footballdude:Do they seriously think anyone will go for this? Very, very, very few people would want a camera of any kind in their home, for any reason. Even if they get the technology to work, this is DOA. That's why there will be no mention of the word "camera" in the documentation about the receiver. Most customer wont have a clue it is there. I bet it will have a spiffy name like "intelligent user customization processor". Why *not* put it in the documentation. It's not like anyone's going to read it.
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| nixenRockin' the BoxenPremium
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Alexandria, VA | said by footballdude:Do they seriously think anyone will go for this? Very, very, very few people would want a camera of any kind in their home, for any reason. Even if they get the technology to work, this is DOA. People always seem to think that. Then, some clever marketroid comes up with a way to get people to WANT to have these kinds of erosions of privacy.
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join:2007-08-07
Aurora, ME | Really? What the heck's wrong with these people? Cameras in cable boxes...
To target ads...My God, can we stop with this ad targeting?
Last thing from my house they would see is a baseball bat coming down 
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| patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | Re: Really? Thats a $399 converter box fee sir. | |
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join:2000-09-20
Phone Room
kudos:2
·Comcast
| where's my tin foil hat? to keep prying eyes out of your living room just put black electricians tape over all the possible sensors. and for God's sake, don't mess with your Smoke Detector. the NSA gets really pissed off when they have to make a 'service call' to your home.
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| b10010011Whats a Posting tag?
join:2004-09-07
Bellingham, WA Reviews:
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| Re: hah said by brianiscool:Big brother already has this. It is called your cell phone with camera abilities. I am sure they get a lot of lovely pictures of the inside of my pocket this way too.  | |
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 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | I'd Go For This If... If Comcast offered their service to me for free, I could find this acceptable and I might even go for it.
My guess though is that as subscribers we'll have to pay for this "service," just like we already pay to watch commercials.
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|  SLDPremium
join:2002-04-17
San Francisco, CA | Re: I'd Go For This If... WOW!!!! | |
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| patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | Televisions that spy on you, so 1984 right? (I never did my reading in school) | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: I'd Go For This If... Telescreens to be precise. | |
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| sheesh F'ing cameras on a 1993 style computer science club DVR user interface. Priorities people. Targeting advertising may look good on paper, but how about we put development into making glorious 21st century HD quality user interfaces and program guides. Also take a look at Verizon and AT&T for a small sampling of some interactive features that should be brought on as an option for those who may want to use them.
Gen Y, the fastest growing customer base is all about the information age. If Gen Y see's a flashier more interactive interface at the competition (Fios, U-Verse, Dish), they will leave cable behind. Time to move forward. | |
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| cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:5 Reviews:
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| Re: sheesh said by cypherstream:F'ing cameras on a 1993 style computer science club DVR user interface. Hey, I resent that comment. I was in the computer club in 1993. Our UI were much better. | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | Re: sheesh Windows 3.1 on a 200 mhz CPU is blazing fast. Not like the new Tru2Way java crap. | |
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|  N3OGHCertified GLG-20Premium
join:2003-11-11
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kudos:1 | Comcast's UI really is pathetic. | |
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| This might be something for Arbitron...or Nelson My friend was contacted by Nelson to wear a device all day long. Apparently, the device records a frequency that is on all radio/satellite and tv broadcasts.
I wouldn't put past that Comcast, etc, want something that verifies the user is present.
But isn't the point of a DVR to record when you AREN'T there in the first place?
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| | | Re: This might be something for Arbitron...or Nelson said by cableties:But isn't the point of a DVR to record when you AREN'T there in the first place? Yeah... but the other point of a DVR is to WATCH the shows you recorded. So if there is a camera, it would watch you while you're watching it. | |
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| | I think this is already in play? Many times I have come in or walked downstairs within "range" of my Comcast issued HDTV DVR. I have heard it spin-up as soon as I walk into the room. This "spin-up" is evident after the system has been inactive for several hours, say 3 AM, and it happens before I even touch the remote. | |
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join:2001-10-04
Houston, TX | Let them... Let them put a camera in my DVR and i would vigorously masturbate every time i am in front of my DVR...
Then i ll go out find a bunch of hookers, buy come narcotics and have a nasty orgy which consequently ends up with 1 hooker dead..
I would make 2 girls 1 cup kind of videos at home and all of this would be in front of the DVR. | |
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| | Why bother with this? All they have to do to determine you're watching is to watch the remote keypresses.
No keypresses in a while, safe to assume you're not there. | |
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join:2004-10-23
Rantoul, IL
kudos:1 | RF Just turn the DVR around toward a wall, and use one of those RF remote extender boxes. They can look at the wall all they want, and you can still use your remote. | |
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| in other news Project Natal from Microsoft watches you! gasp... Comcast and Microsoft team up... Project Natal-DVR to change the channel just jump up... or sit down for up and down... volume? no problem move your head left or right... you like what you see? well tell us by jumping up and down eratically dont like what you see? flick the tv off | |
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 jester121Premium
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | Nielsen? Hasn't the Nielsen ratings program used this technology for a long time? That's a voluntary, opt-in program of course, but it's certainly not that far of a stretch. | |
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AVonGaussPremium,MVM
join:2007-11-01
Boynton Beach, FL | An alternate view... I'm not sure what worries me more, the fact that companies are considering this idea or that the consumers as indicated in this thread are rationalizing accepting this practice. A spy camera, infrared or not, will never be a problem in my household and no electrical tape will be needed. If you feel strongly enough to put electrical tape over the sensing device, go the extra step and simply not accept the device. | |
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| patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | Re: An alternate view... said by AVonGauss: If you feel strongly enough to put electrical tape over the sensing device, go the extra step and simply not accept the device. Your not in a position to be negotiating. Its hard to live without TV and/or phone and/or internet, like its hard/impossible to live without a car, without ID, without a cell phone, without a SSN, without any phone number, and without an address. | |
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join:2007-11-01
Boynton Beach, FL | Re: An alternate view... I agree, its not negotiable - sensing (spy) device, no sale, period. You and I both can live very easily without a DVR, HD or SD converter and in many cases where there are multiple options, you can easily switch to the other option that does not use such disgusting tactics. | |
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| | | | said by patcat88: Your not in a position to be negotiating. You are in an excellent position to be negotiating. You do not need to accept these devices for any of the services you mention (TV, phone, Internet). Many people live just fine without owning a car, and you certainly do not need a cell phone. If you are so addicted to cable that you'll take everything they force on you then your lifestyle need a serious re-evaluation.
The SSN and address arguments are straw men. You can do better. | |
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join:2009-08-11
Providence, RI | i dont think so its so sad people are stupid you know what will happen is that half of the masses will have no clue
and it will just happen
the other bunch will just not care and they will go along with it
look at that chick from what was it espn that got taped
what if you walk around your house naked
also dont think that for even one minute that the NSA CIA FBI DHS
or any other 3 or more letter uber gov sector will be be dieing to get that sorta stuff in to your house
dont think that for one minute they wont try to get even more smarter
look hey let put a mic in there too and call it voice command when it really just listen and snooping on every thing that you say
point in case this us just a bad idea
if these cable companys want to really provide a service why dont they do what they use to do in the 80 provide tv service
now adays all that you get is ads more ads
and them fuckers tryting to think of more ways to show you more ads
show one should start a new cable company accross the usa and shit if you gotta pay then it should be all comical free
rant rant im done
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join:2002-04-17
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3 edits | Re: i dont think so If you want your RANT to be read, use proper spelling, capitalization and grammer.
Otherwise, it looks like texting gibberish... and it makes you look like the stupid one. | |
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| | | | Re: i dont think so said by SLD:If you want your RANT to be read, use proper spelling, capitalization and grammer. Cut 'em some slack, grammer [sic] nazi. They just joined today.
It's 'grammar'. | |
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join:2002-04-17
San Francisco, CA | Re: i dont think so LOL...thanks. Spell check missed that one. | |
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amungusPremium
join:2004-11-26
America Reviews:
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| telescreen The "fictional" "Telescreen" is here...
Heck, laptops, cell phones, etc. already have little eyes and ears.
Cox clearly states (in the finest of fine print) that they do monitor what you watch with a DVR. Essentially a "Nielsen" system for every DVR... Many companies already scour these stats, and success/failure of shows can even rest on the numbers from them...
Now they want the all seeing eye in every room.
If people are so enthralled with their vehicles having onstar which can listen to you at any time, I don't see there being a massive opposition to this. That, and cell phones can also track your whereabouts and probably idle conversation, the occasional picture/video, and you'd never know it happened.
Sure, lots won't agree with it, but I'd bet on the "common idiot" having no worries and thinking "I've got nothing to hide" won't care one bit.
While they're at it, they'll probably sell "security" services eventually. Works for onstar, and people pay for it gladly...
Yes, there were "rumors" of Nielsen doing similar things, even way back. Only box I've ever seen couldn't have had any such technology. You had to tell it how many viewers were there, age, and sex. It looked like something out of 1987 with its little LED indicators and very square design. Installed on a Trinitron TV where the installer had to drill a hole in the set to go inline with the RF tuner (for analog cable in this case). Quite an impressive job, but I don't imagine they like having to pay for the tech to do this.
Instead, all they have to do now is force you to get a box for cable service and far more invasive technology is suddenly in your house.
People will probably eat this crap up. As much as anyone here, or elsewhere complains, it'll end up being accepted by massive amounts of people who can't think for themselves. | |
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join:2003-02-13
Stepford, CA | Re: telescreen said by amungus:Cox clearly states (in the finest of fine print) that they do monitor what you watch with a DVR. Not saying I debate it, but where exactly is this clause found in the TOS. Do you have a link? | |
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join:2004-11-26
America Reviews:
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| Re: telescreen "Some digital video recorder services collect usage information. If this applies, we will tell you when you receive the DVR."
»ww2.cox.com/aboutus/sandiego/pol···cies.cox
Closest thing I could find for you online after a quick search...
...Mine did come with a pamphlet explaining that they do indeed collect usage info regarding DVR use, but do not collect info on what is recorded... In other words, they can see what channel your tuner is on, maybe a few details on what else is going on with the device, but not necessarily what's actually being saved on the hard drive. | |
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Stepford, CA | Re: telescreen said by amungus:"Some digital video recorder services collect usage information. If this applies, we will tell you when you receive the DVR." » ww2.cox.com/aboutus/sandiego/pol···cies.coxClosest thing I could find for you online after a quick search... ...Mine did come with a pamphlet explaining that they do indeed collect usage info regarding DVR use, but do not collect info on what is recorded... In other words, they can see what channel your tuner is on, maybe a few details on what else is going on with the device, but not necessarily what's actually being saved on the hard drive. Thx for that research. I'm in Orange County but I'm very sure the same policy applies to DVR users up here. There is a similar policy with regard to subscriber data and the channels/pkgs you select, but you can opt out of the company sharing that data with any third parties. You'd have to check your Cox Privacy Notice and/or Customer Notice if interested. I don't think either are available online (at least not for Orange County). You'd have to request same in writing from the Cox local office. I believe down there it's in Kearney Mesa.
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join:2004-11-26
America Reviews:
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| Re: telescreen No problem
Probably do have similar policies. Don't think Cox gets the same level of detailed logs that Tivo does (everybody rewound Janet's "wardrobe malfunction), but they can tell what channel the tuner(s) are set to etc...
Hearing that thing about Tivo is kind of eye opening though, and I read the fine print on my "notice" when getting the DVR, but it said specifically that they don't track what's being recorded... If it's on a channel, it's buffering what you see anyway...
As for Cox's policy, I think you can request the little booklet from the local office or from a customer service rep.
Overall, I don't care if they see what channel I'm on, but would seriously object to having an "eye" into my living room. The current policy seems pretty non-invasive in my opinion. If it's true, it's definitely less invasive than Tivo's monitoring of every single remote click.
Tivo monitoring through the ages
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»blogcritics.org/scitech/article/···brother/
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | said by amungus:Cox clearly states (in the finest of fine print) that they do monitor what you watch with a DVR. Essentially a "Nielsen" system for every DVR... Many companies already scour these stats, and success/failure of shows can even rest on the numbers from them... So they will know how many people rewound then paused to see a woman. Plus you can create a targeted audience for Viagra sales based on the length of the pause.
While they're at it, they'll probably sell "security" services eventually. Works for onstar, and people pay for it gladly...
Great idea, patent it. Have the camera record 5 fps or motion activated to the DVR HD, or send it to the headend live via new D3. I can't see what the privacy problems would be. | |
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Puyallup, WA
kudos:1 | Riiiiight! The day I find a camera in my DVR, would be the last day I used your service ... it's that simple.
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| | | Re: Riiiiight! said by not quite right:The day I find a camera in my DVR, would be the last day I used your service ... it's that simple. pretty much.
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