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join:2001-03-05
Blacksburg, VA | Nothing new You could use this for every SIP based VoIP company and almost every adapter that is set to receive anonymous SIP calls. | |
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sporkme
drop the crantini and move it, sister
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-01
Morristown, NJ
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| Re: Nothing new said by compuwizz  :You could use this for every SIP based VoIP company and almost every adapter that is set to receive anonymous SIP calls. Yeah, this is not news.
Even much more expensive business PBX services have most of the same flaws. SIP was made in friendlier times. | |
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join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL
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| Re: Nothing new said by sporkme :Even much more expensive business PBX services have most of the same flaws. Not unless they were implemented by idiots. Corporate VOIP traffic doesn't travel unencrypted over the public internet.*
* - earlier "idiot" caveat applies. | |
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sporkme
drop the crantini and move it, sister
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join:2000-07-01
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| Re: Nothing new said by jester121 :said by sporkme :Even much more expensive business PBX services have most of the same flaws. Not unless they were implemented by idiots. Corporate VOIP traffic doesn't travel unencrypted over the public internet.* Do you want a really long list of "business" VoIP providers that sell a managed remote PBX product? | |
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join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL
·surpasshosting
·ViaTalk
| Re: Nothing new said by sporkme :said by jester121 :said by sporkme :Even much more expensive business PBX services have most of the same flaws. Not unless they were implemented by idiots. Corporate VOIP traffic doesn't travel unencrypted over the public internet.* Do you want a really long list of "business" VoIP providers that sell a managed remote PBX product? Not really, I've had experience with several, and if their installers didn't secure the connections via ACLs or implement other security measures, THEY ARE IDIOTS.
Do you want keep arguing? It's a slow day here at work, and I'm a good typist. Idiot is a fun word to type so I can go all day. | |
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digiblur
Got Sipura?
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join:2002-06-03
Louisiana
| Very old news... send all the SIP INVITEs you want to my IP address. I've got 6 lines of VoIP registering from behind my router. I'll give you my IP address. Bet you can't make 'em ring. Sure you could probably flood my IP but that's nothing new either.
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My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
| Re: Vonage techs too busy testifyng to check it out So if this is stolen technology, if they hack my account, can I sue Sprint, Verizon/MCI, and now AT&T?  After all, it's their technology that is flawed... Vonage just stole it! haha
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Premium
join:2002-08-13
Imperial, MO
| Re: Vonage techs too busy testifyng to check it out said by fiberguy :So if this is stolen technology, if they hack my account, can I sue Sprint, Verizon/MCI, and now AT&T? After all, it's their technology that is flawed... Vonage just stole it! haha How could you sue someone for inventing a technology? It would be Vonage that implemented it for you.
Yeah, I know you're just kidding. I'm just saying, though.....
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My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| Re: Vonage techs too busy testifyng to check it out Well.. don't we live in the age of sue-em? Yes, I was just kidding,... but really look at this...
A casino has a slot machine that said it was going to pay out over 1 million dollars.. the machine, somewhere in small print on the back maybe says the max any of that machine will pay is $2,500. It's initial findings is that they can't sue the casino.. BUT, a former supreme court judge DID say that the player could go after the software maker since it was their mistake..
On a serious note.. apply my funny to this situation. When those companies that developed the technology that Vonage stole, got sued, had to pay and then legitimized .. that product now has these sue happy people's names all over it - and in my opinion, all the potential problems that go with it.
Yes.. I am being funny.. but, at the same time, there could be a little something in there as well. COULD be..
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manny7437
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North Port, FL
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GOLFnSUN
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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| Re: action tec said by manny7437 :they are working on acttec a new firm ware that will not burn out the fios moden rt now make sure that when you get it intall at you home tell tech from verizon to check rf reading at moden can not be to hot will burn it up need to be at least + 2 or not less than -4 good luck And what has this to do with the subject of the news item?
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| | fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20 | Re: action tec Forget the subject line, I can't even figure out what he's even talking about. | |
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swintec
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join:2003-12-19
Alfred, ME | Re: action tec Maybe he is ahead by a day and thinks its the Friday Open Thread? | |
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join:2001-11-15
Odessa, FL | Na, He just thinks it's Friday!!!!
Oh, and alcohol is was/is involved
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join:2007-10-17
North Port, FL | sorry i was responding to wrong email | |
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lordofwhee
join:2007-10-21
Everett, WA | Old Anyone involved in basically any hacking community knew about the vulnerabilities of VoIP over a year ago, why is this news? | |
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meister_sd
Premium
join:2006-01-29
La Mesa, CA | Re: Old I'm starting to get into Asterisk and more self hosting VoIP. Got any references to these vulnerabilities or sites? I'd like to learn more about locking the system down. | |
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join:2007-02-20
Old Bridge, NJ
·Cablevision
| Re: Other VoIP providers They don't care because its just not that easy to "gain access" to the local network hub for a given community, sniff out ONE user's specific traffic, and decode that traffic, find the Needle in the haystack, just to place an anonymous phone call to some VOIP customer or steal their credentials to make a few international calls. No real threat here just your average run of the mill FUD. Using Vonage to get headlines and sell some "consulting" services. | |
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join:2002-04-12
Netville | Re: Just self promotion The "new" Sipera Systems must be on the troll for more VC fishfood | |
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La Luna
Surviving Ashraful
Premium
join:2001-07-12
Warwick, NY
clubs: | And..... It seems that only one adapter is a problem in this case.
Problems with the Vonage VT 2142-VD adapter... | |
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| jsarcone
join:2002-10-12
Howell, NJ | Re: And..... That's what I don't understand all phone adapters use this RT protocol, Linksys and other. Aren't they at the same risk? | |
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join:2000-10-20
Gainesville, VA | Re: And.....
... and why do they single out Vonage by name when things like unencrypted RTP affects every consumer VoIP provider I know of?
I'm more convinced then ever that Verizon or AT$T has their hands in this. | |
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join:2002-10-12
Howell, NJ
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| Re: And..... Not that VT 2142-VD isn't a problem but they are listing issue that every manufacture has. I do think some is behind this and not that Vonage deserves some of the heat but lets put the blame on where it is needed; the whole industry. Verizon, ATT etc... | |
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nolancj
join:2002-06-30
Long Beach, CA
| My take on the matter Let's see.. I can worry about "Hackers" Randomly attacking my vonage lines, OR, I can worry about the major Telcos complying with every whim of the federal government for eves-dropping and logging POTS calls? Hmm....
Personally, I'll take the "hackers" | |
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join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | Re: My take on the matter Sounds like someone has a guilty conscience.  | |
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nolancj
join:2002-06-30
Long Beach, CA
| Re: My take on the matter said by jester121 :Sounds like someone has a guilty conscience. Haha... not really, but I do have my tinfoil hat on | |
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@rr.com | Could not have said it any better. Thanks for pointing this out. DAMN telcos. | |
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doncute18
join:2003-04-08
12365
| Public Stunt Vonage has great security features on there back end. They are using Vonage just to get headlines like you guys are saying. Its easier to tap into your regular pots line then a Vonage Line. ALSO Off Beat BUT COmcast SUCKS GET RID OF THEM. I hate them so much. Just releiving some STEAM.. | |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY | This is formation is brought to you by........... Verison
AT&T
Comcast
Qwest
Skype
Microsoft
and every other VoIP service out there.
You can't trust Vonage, you need to sign up with us.
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Your Vonage Account At Risk
Vonage techs too busy testifyng to check it out
