  Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium
join:2002-03-03
USA
kudos:4
1 edit |  What passes for tech reporters on internet is pretty poor
See comments here:
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 |  pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | Re: What passes for tech reporters on internet is pretty poor Sounds a lot like the MO of most traditional media outlets these days... blast out anything that sounds sensational and then verify things later on.
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|  ptrowskiGot Helix?Premium
join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
kudos:4 | Those are always my favorite. I love the "5G speeds, that's 2 levels about 3G speeds" comment.  | |
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|  funchordsHelloPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:5 | said by Romney2012:Just goes to show that what is passing for technical internet reporting is pretty poor. What's passing for journalism is pretty poor.
»www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWs12ccbOiE
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| | | | Re: What passes for tech reporters on internet is pretty poor wow... words fail me..
Adi | |
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| |  en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | The sky is falling... big gov't is 'owning' my laptop run for your lives.
Talk about fear mongering. | |
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| |  CylonRedPremium,MVM
join:2000-07-06
Bloom County | The journalism school of Rush 'I am useless to society' Limbaugh and the rest of the wacko right... | |
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| iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: The MLM scam artisits... FYI, no smartphone ever got sent to me. | |
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| | ptrowskiGot Helix?Premium
join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
kudos:4 | Re: The MLM scam artisits... said by iansltx:FYI, no smartphone ever got sent to me. Thanks for the update on that. | |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
 ·Verizon Online DSL
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| $70 isn't even competitive anymore $100 - Sprint Simply Everything
$90 - Sprint Everything (talk and messaging)
$80 - Net10 (talk and messaging, AT&T or T-Mobile)
$50 - Top plans on CricKet and MetroPCS, roaming extra, web included
$50 - Boost Mobile (talk, text/MMS, web)
$50 - Virgin Mobile (Sprint, talk, messaging is another $10)
$50 - Total Call Mobile (Sprint, talk, text, international text)
$45 - Straight Talk (Verizon, talk, text, 30MB web/MMS, 411)
$40 - Page Plus Cellular (Verizon, talk, text, 20MB web/MMS)
$30 - Low plans on CricKet and MetroPCS, most areas they serve
$25 - Lowest plan on CricKet, highly competitive areas
$25 - Lowest plan on Pocket Communications (includes talk, text, MMS, competing with CricKet)
Remind me again why I'd want to buy a smartphone and pay $70 per month for unlimited voice and data, with voice going over unreliable VoIP, when there are options out there for significantly less that use the actual voice network for actual voice (what a thought!). | |
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| | | Re: $70 isn't even competitive anymore As hard as I try I cannot figure out why any consumer bothers to pay cell phone bills more than 50-60 dollars a month if they live in some semi-metro or more populous area. There is so many options, but for some reason they are constantly signing up for two year cell phone leases to get some fancy "tv commercials and good marketing told me i need to get this" new cell phone/toy. Why bother to keep yourself on a stupid mobile phone lease plan?
According to an ATT rep who we spoke to at work recently the average iphone user bill is about 110 dollars a month for their iphone plan.
Putting a 69.99 plan next to the average users 110 dollar iphone plan sounds great. But in reality BOTH are overpriced.
When i see someone with an iphone, i don't think. oooh nice phone, i think.. ah someone who is an easy to market to bandwagon follower, and/or has tons of spare money with no idea how to use it wisely. | |
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| | | | Re: $70 isn't even competitive anymore No kidding. We have three phones on an AT&T family plan and can't use the minutes fast enough before the rollover expires a year later. Currently we've got about 4500 banked. I have unlimited data on my phone (yes, it tethers to my laptop just fine via Bluetooth and USB). Cost: Under $110 per month, total for all three. That works out to less than $34 per month for effectively unlimited use the way we use them.
Unless you are an addicted sad sack who just can't put the phone down and live in the real world I can't see any phone plan being worth $100+ just for one phone. | |
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| | | | | Re: $70 isn't even competitive anymore said by ridethelight :
No kidding. We have three phones on an AT&T family plan and can't use the minutes fast enough before the rollover expires a year later. Currently we've got about 4500 banked. I have unlimited data on my phone (yes, it tethers to my laptop just fine via Bluetooth and USB). Cost: Under $110 per month, total for all three. That works out to less than $34 per month for effectively unlimited use the way we use them.
Unless you are an addicted sad sack who just can't put the phone down and live in the real world I can't see any phone plan being worth $100+ just for one phone.
Now all you need to do is use Google Voice and you can slash that voice plan to the bare minimum minutes. | |
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| | | | | | Re: $70 isn't even competitive anymore I already do...three accounts. | |
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| |  chakeyPremium
join:2004-06-14
Gladstone, NJ
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| said by delusion ftl2:When i see someone with an iphone, i don't think. oooh nice phone, i think.. ah someone who is an easy to market to bandwagon follower, and/or has tons of spare money with no idea how to use it wisely. Or maybe someone who doesn't mind paying more per month to get a superior product? Isn't that Apple's business model? They seem to be doing pretty well at it... | |
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| | | | | Re: $70 isn't even competitive anymore You just proved the point. The iphone is NOT a "superior" product (it does some things great and some things poor) it simply is marketed as such and in such a way that clueless consumers think they actually need that sort of device. Then they line up and hand over money. Kudos to Apple with their skills of bilking money out of consumers, but casts a somewhat embarrassing shadow on those consumers who've fallen for it. | |
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| | | | chakeyPremium
join:2004-06-14
Gladstone, NJ Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
| Re: $70 isn't even competitive anymore The point is that this industry is a consumer driven, individual business. You choose what works best for you, not what some nay-sayers think works best for everyone. For an increasing amount of people, Apple makes sense for them as an individual. Marketing or not, that's the way it is. | |
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| | patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | First, data. You don't get data with the budget unlimited voice plans.
Second, most people wind up tossing their phone against a wall when they anthropomorphise their phone into the person on the other line that they are yelling at.
Third, they need a new trinket of bling to show off to their vapid friends to get 1 minute of attention. | |
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| | | | | Re: $70 isn't even competitive anymore said by patcat88:First, data. You don't get data with the budget unlimited voice plans. Second, most people wind up tossing their phone against a wall when they anthropomorphise their phone into the person on the other line that they are yelling at. Third, they need a new trinket of bling to show off to their vapid friends to get 1 minute of attention. The first two are true, the 2nd one especially of me lol. But the third one isn't really a fair assessment. I love gadgets, and there are millions more out there who feel the same way. Gadgets and future tech represent a concept, a sort of RPG-like advance of our civilization. It creates a special, excited feeling within one's stomach or heart or whatever that people like myself really like. | |
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| | | | | While I cant speak for all carriers, Cricket offers on their 45 dollar plan unlimited 3G EVDO Rev A data (same tech as verizon and sprint) | |
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| | CylonRedPremium,MVM
join:2000-07-06
Bloom County | quote:
Why bother to keep yourself on a stupid mobile phone lease plan?
My FIL is an engineer and he thinks he HAS to be on a contract and if he goes on a new contract then none of our phones will work but his (we have my wifes parents on our plan). Did I mention he is a PHD in Electrical engineering? Did I also mention that he knows I have been off contract for 3 years now but he just got a new contract earlier this year and I did not but I still have phone service?
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| en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
1 edit | True - in the cities that Cricket/MetroPCS offer 3G mobile. Initially when this came out, it even offered 'free' roaming in Canada.
Boost mobile is iDEN, which is VERY slow (yeah, I used a Nextel BB 7100i).
The closest for DATA is Sprint Everything, or a data card.
If I'm not mistaken, I 'can' get a data only PDA package, correct ?
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|  Mr FelFlynn LivesPremium
join:2008-03-17
Louisville, KY | Bought myself a tracfone last year, after everything is said and done I have a cell phone bill of $80, a year  | |
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| | | There is no way Straight Talk uses the VZ network. That map of their coverage is NOT even close to the VZ network. It has to be using someone else's network.
And why would TracFone use CDMA when they use ATT and T-Mobile for their network? | |
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| | iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Verizon Online DSL
·Comcast
| Re: $70 isn't even competitive anymore $150 Straight Talk uses Verizon's network.
Actually, I'll make that $300. The coverage map on their site is out of date; it shows pre-Alltel coverage.
Their retail phone packaging even says Verizon on it; you just have to look.
Also, Tracfone has agreements with Verizon, US Cellular, AT&T, T-Mobile and a handful of smaller carriers, depending on the area.
Sorry man, but you're COMPLETELY wrong on this one. | |
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| | | | | Re: $70 isn't even competitive anymore I'm not wrong. I didn't know TracFone (as i don't use TracFone) still uses CDMA after they moved to GSM several years ago.
Also the VZW map is before any of their major mergers. They had more coverage before the Alltel deal. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Verizon Online DSL
·Comcast
| Re: $70 isn't even competitive anymore Just because you didn't know what you're talking about doesn't mean you're not incorrect.
Just because the coverage map says one thing doeesn't mean it's so however. Look on HowardForums.com for a bit and you'll see that people who have actually tested the StraightTalk service report that it's available in all Verizon service areas. | |
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| | $70 a month is worth it to me... ...for the data alone. I would cough up $70 a month if I could get reliable, fast, truly unlimited / unhindered mobile data as stated in their claims. The voice capabilities (feasibility concerns aside) would simply be an added convenience for me.
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| | Why is there award for a product/service... that doesn't exist yet? It is like calling Sven Motors car manufacturer of the year 2010. When there is no Sven Motors.
I knew that they were a scam from day one. Website reeked (still does) of poor quality. Promising MLM deals/billing. | |
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join:2003-09-15
Arlington, TX
kudos:1 | So, did anyone NOT smell the bullshit? No really, did anyone actually believe Zero1 was for real?
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|  NY TelPremium
join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY
kudos:3
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1 edit | Re: So, did anyone NOT smell the bullshit? said by sivran:No really, did anyone actually believe Zero1 was for real? When the website first launched, I checked off the box saying I would like additional information. Months passed and then I got an email asking me if I was interested in being an investor.
I replied NO and I never heard from them again. Sniff....  | |
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| patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | Anyone who had a blonde busty sales consultant from ZER01 show up. | |
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| | Um... Can we put the company's creators in jail again before they screw over more people? | |
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