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kudos:1 | Re: Didn't this happen last time? not surprised when you force people to activate in store you'd think they'd be ready!
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kudos:5 | Re: Didn't this happen last time? And aside from any iPhone 2.0 & iTunes problems, the mandated in-store activation has created large lines at the Apple stores slowing day one sales quite a bit. | |
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Valencia, CA | Re: Didn't this happen last time? Those that want the device that bad on day 1 have been waiting... they'll just have a wait a little longer.
In a day or 2, there will be no lines.
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kudos:5 | said by Linklist:And aside from any iPhone 2.0 & iTunes problems, the mandated in-store activation has created large lines at the Apple stores slowing day one sales quite a bit. Also, those users upgrading their original iPhones to the 2.0 firmware are being bricked at a prodigious rate. Seems the last step of an iPhone 1 upgrade is to connect to the App store to complete activation of the upgrade. Problem is that the App store is buried and can't keep up.
»www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/11/si···growing/
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|  Defiance82Computer ElitePremium
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| | | | Re: Didn't this happen last time? said by Defiance82:hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Poor ole Apple... May you R.I.P. One of the dumbest post I've seen in a while. | |
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1 edit | Re: Didn't this happen last time? Not really...
What is "dumb" are people who are wrapped into the apple is the only worthy OS / company on the planet... and end up getting butt pounded by Apple (ie.. iphone price drop , iphone locked to a single carrier with a piss poor 3G deployment..etc..)
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kudos:12 | Re: Didn't this happen last time? said by sporkme:said by Defiance82:hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Poor ole Apple... May you R.I.P. Prediction: By Monday the stock will be over $180 again as "the street" decides that something that sells well enough to crash servers is a good thing. I hope so. My IRA needs a boost with the way the market has been. I'm hoping they'll split soon. | |
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| | | |  Count ZeroObama-Biden 2012Premium
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Winston Salem, NC | Re: Didn't this happen last time? unlikely, but a nice thought non the less, I'd love to buy a bunch of Apple stock at half it's current price. | |
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|  SnickerdoPremium
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Niagara Falls, ON | said by Matt3:Didn't this happen when the first iPhone was released? Yup, for a good 2-3 days. It was not fun to be on the other end of the phone when customs called in to bitch. | |
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kudos:22 | Mozilla when Firefox 3 came out on download day also ended up killing their site as well. It's hard to predict how many people at one time are going to be loading things up. | |
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Niagara Falls, ON | Re: Didn't this happen last time? said by mikeg803:My motto is "If you are going to do something, do it right the first time". Has AT&T ever done anything right the first time. I don't think so. That is why I stick with VZW. This whole situation has absolutely nothing to do with AT&T and everything to do with Apple.
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Niagara Falls, ON | Re: Didn't this happen last time? said by mikeg803:It's AT&T's responsibility to ensure they provide working equipment to their paying customers. It does have to do with AT&T and Apple. Um, you are aware that AT&T doesn't exist outside the US, and that this issue was worldwide, right? This is an Apple issue. Absolutely nothing to do with AT&T.
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Hingham, MA | I suppose... I should wait to buy the 2.0 update for the iPod touch, then. (Or do touch owners have to wait anyway?) | |
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3 edits | Re: I suppose... said by EPS:I should wait to buy the 2.0 update for the iPod touch, then. (Or do touch owners have to wait anyway?) Dont buy.. just jailbreak.. but yea we are screwed too (touch owners) we have to wait for the itunes update also..
»content.info.apple.com/Protected···ore.ipsw this is for the itouch.. not iphone.. and its very very slow.. click on it if you want. | |
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Hingham, MA | Re: I suppose... I've been going back and forth on that- there are a few Apps in the much-ballyhooed App Store that I'd like to check out, but there are also those jailbroken apps- for example, that NES emulator (think Apple will ever allow that?).
Eventually the hackers will figure out a "best of both worlds" solution, I guess- in the end the hackers always win. | |
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united state | Re: I suppose... said by EPS:I've been going back and forth on that- there are a few Apps in the much-ballyhooed App Store that I'd like to check out, but there are also those jailbroken apps- for example, that NES emulator (think Apple will ever allow that?). Eventually the hackers will figure out a "best of both worlds" solution, I guess- in the end the hackers always win. said by EPS:I've been going back and forth on that- there are a few Apps in the much-ballyhooed App Store that I'd like to check out, but there are also those jailbroken apps- for example, that NES emulator (think Apple will ever allow that?). Eventually the hackers will figure out a "best of both worlds" solution, I guess- in the end the hackers always win. They already have, the new jailbreak tool for 2.0 is released in the next day or so. | |
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I think lot's of those people are waiting for no good reason.
And yes I have a mac book pro , but am not an apple fan boi.
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There were altogether maybe 100 people in line. I go the next to last phone and by that time they had given up on in store activation. I was showed an email form AT&T corporate, to the effect that the at&t activation servers were down and to give the iphones to the customers to activate themselves at home.
I got my phone at 10:25AM, as of this writing 12:04PM, I have been unable to activate...
The bad part about this is that they de-activated my old SIM and I can't use my old phone. | |
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New York, NY | Re: In store only said by artbatista:They activated a new SIM card for the Iphone. I just now took it out and put it in my razr to get that working for the time being. As of 1:00PM EST no activation yet. Art Why though? Cant you simply insert your old SIM and be done with it?
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united state | Re: In store only said by wifi4milez:said by artbatista:They activated a new SIM card for the Iphone. I just now took it out and put it in my razr to get that working for the time being. As of 1:00PM EST no activation yet. Art Why though? Cant you simply insert your old SIM and be done with it? No, if you want all of the features to actually work the phone must be re-activated via itunes and connect to the servers. | |
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kudos:1 | said by artbatista:The bad part about this is that they de-activated my old SIM and I can't use my old phone. The same thing happened to me when I got my iPhone last year. I took the SIM out of the iPhone and put it into my old phone and my old phone worked with the iPhone SIM in it. I used my old phone for about another 24 hours before things calmed down and I was able to activate the iPhone. | |
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Smithfield, NC | Expect it Hey, if you have to have something like this on the first day, you should expect this sort of thing. A true fan is willing to stand around all day waiting.
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kudos:1 | Re: Expect it the aristocrats | |
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The problem is EVERYONE that is buying one and EVERY store that is selling the phones are doing it basically at the same time, so there is no ability to activate.
I got mine early and then went back with a friend. In Albany, NY they are basically sending people out the door with a phone that does not work and telling them to come back in a "couple days".
This seems to be most problematic for people trying to transfer a number for some reason. | |
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kudos:1 | Stop the insanity Its just a phone, and not a great one at that. People need to find something better then a phone to fulfill them. Unless these people are all college students ? | |
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| MrMoodyFree range slavePremium
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Smithfield, NC | Re: Stop the insanity Yeah but it's a HarleyApple, so just having it makes you cool, and you get double bonus cool points for getting it the first day. Take it to a club tonight and flash it around, you'll be so cool I guarantee you'll get laid.
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1 edit | Re: Stop the insanity said by MrMoody:Yeah but it's a HarleyApple, so just having it makes you cool, and you get double bonus cool points for getting it the first day. Take it to a club tonight and flash it around, you'll be so cool I guarantee you'll get laid. Moody-
You are SO right. I remember last summer, the night of the 1st launch, a guy was at the bar I was at with one. He might've been one of the ugliest dudes I've seen, but had a crowd around him a majority of the night. 
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1 edit | Re: Stop the insanity No, that's why I wasn't in line to buy one. | |
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kudos:1 | Never fear Jobby-Jobs will polish this turd to a lustrous shine once ... what's that? MobileMe isn't working yet either? After three days?
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| | At least they got heir phones.. The chain in Canada that is carrying the iPhones had severely limited stocks.
The flagship store for Rogers Communications had 80(!) of the 8GB ver., 20 of the higher capacity.
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I also think that iPhone is dumb and inferior to many other phones. I own a Nokia N95 (5 MP camera with flash, Wi-Fi, Real GPS and much more) which runs on Symbian and I LOVE IT.
I cant wait for the N96 ...
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Miami, FL | ! Just goes to show how many people bitch about gas and everything else yet throw their money away on a phone, that does not even work that good. | |
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| Count ZeroObama-Biden 2012Premium
join:2007-01-18
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kudos:2 | Software Problems Bug Apple's Launch Of New iPhone Kenny Pichardo, 24, was the first to buy an iPhone 3G at an AT&T store in the New York borough of Queens, but he said it took the store half an hour to get the phone working.
A spokesman for AT&T Inc., the exclusive carrier for the iPhone in the U.S., said there was a global problem with Apple Inc.'s iTunes software that prevented the phones from being fully activated in-store, as had been planned.
Instead, employees are telling buyers to go home and perform the last step by connecting their phones to their own computers, spokesman Michael Coe said.
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| Different error I bought my 3G this morning, though I'm getting a very similar error, the text reads the same, however, the code is -4. Anybody else getting this. They were getting the -4 error at AT&T this morning, and they kicked me out of the store and told me to do it at home.
I was told that Apple took the servers offline to prevent 2g iphone owners from bricking them. Apparently the 2.0 software has caused a LOT of problems. Anyone else hear about this?
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Hurricane, WV | Re: Different error said by McLovin:I was told that Apple took the servers offline to prevent 2g iphone owners from bricking them. Apparently the 2.0 software has caused a LOT of problems. Anyone else hear about this? YES. I upgraded to 2.0 this morning and now have Brick 2.0. My phone is dead and it won't work until I can get access to the server. | |
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|  cbrigante2Cubs 20??Premium
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kudos:4 | Still can't update my Touch.... Going on 6 hours to try to update my Touch, still no dice. | |
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Valencia, CA | Re: Waste of time Doesn't that happen every fall - Thanksgiving PS-3/Wii, etc.
Supply and demand... Cap the supply to keep demand high.
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1 edit | Re: Waste of time That makes no sense what so ever. Here in the bay area Wii's still last 5sec on the shelf before they are snatched up by profiteers putting them on ebay/craigslist. I still want/would buy a Wii if I saw it on the shelf. I refuse to pay some scumbags mark up to get one though.
I would think an abundant supply would lead to impulse and regular sales.
Since I stood in line for 4 hours today and came up empty handed I'm pissed. I prob will wait a month or so before I step back into a store looking for one. Of course by then there maybe something better that catches my eye or gets my money. | |
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Just thought I would mention it.
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kudos:4 | Re: On the Inside Since I work for a QA firm, maybe I need my load/performance architect to start calling into Apple. | |
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| cbrigante2Cubs 20??Premium
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For example how akamai actually does the serving and how the files were actually seeded over multiple servers. It is great to talk about but the fact that people like you think it can actually handle the load, shows the lack of understanding of the systems, so why bother? I mean the fact that it is not just the firmware but the actual transaction processing at AT&T for account generation that was the problem, along with those migrating phone numbers who could not get the "pic" executed properly...see it wasn't just a firmware issue but a complete system issue from firmware, to registration, to billing, to number migration...ohhh well... | |
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