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clubs: | Just because there is volume doesn't mean the filters are not draconian.
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| Re: Why said by ptrowski  :Just because there is volume doesn't mean the filters are not draconian.
They approve-remove apps on a whim with zero rhyme or reason. I do think there is reason there. They kill apps that compete with the apps provided by Apple. They kill apps that make them look bad in the press and that will dredge up a lot of opposition from special interest groups(e.g the recent porn app). They are a company with a product to sell and they don't want their trademark smudged by controversy.
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| Re: Why said by ptrowski :The "porn app" wasn't killed by Apple, the developer pullled it and will be re-submitted. His servers could not handle the load. You are going on old info. The developer didn't pull it. Apple killed it.
»news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10273717-37.html
Thursday saw the first softcore porn app arrive for the iPhone, only to disappear hours later. Many, including myself, thought Apple had approved and then banned the app, but a note on the developer's Web site indicated that he asked for the app to be removed.
As it turns out Apple did pull the app--the company confirmed the move in a statement provided to CNET on Friday.
"Apple will not distribute applications that contain inappropriate content," Apple's statement reads. "The developer of this application added inappropriate content directly from their server after the application had been approved and distributed, and after the developer had subsequently been asked to remove some offensive content. This was a direct violation of the terms of the iPhone Developer Program. The application is no longer available on the App Store."
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clubs: | Re: Why Then I stand corrected. The last I saw was the developer pulled it due to load on the servers. | |
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1 edit | Re: Why said by ptrowski :Then I stand corrected. The last I saw was the developer pulled it due to load on the servers. thats what the moron claimed to try and save face
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@eastlink.ca | Re: Why And I posted before your 'back-peddle'...
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1 edit | said by EdG :
And I posted before your 'back-peddle'...
Admitting when you are wrong and being able to accept new information when it is presented, even when it is contrary to your position, is an admirable thing.
What is not admirable is to ignore arguments against one's position and refusing to reevaluate your beliefs.
said by EdG :
As for moving on, that is not your decision.
What the hell is that even supposed to mean? He made a statement, contradicting evidence was brought forth, and he admitted error. There isn't anything else to it... how could you not move on?
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| said by ptrowski :Baby Shaker? That really shows a business case. Granted it was pulled after a few days, but how did it make it through in the first place? We all know it's an educational tool to show the effects of shaking babies to 1st year medical students.
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| said by GOLFnSUN :said by MightyPez :Jailbreaking doesn't necessarily mean making it work on other networks. Most people that jailbreak their iphone do so because they want to run apps that are not approved by Apples draconian app store censors. I am NOT an Apple fan, and I call BS on the claim that Apple is any way, shape, or manner DRACONIAN in the approval of apps for their App Store. Proof? How about that there are over 40,000 apps in the App store. You mean the 39995 novelty apps that have no actual use? I'll take 5 of the "I am rich app".
In the mean time I'll putty to a server and make a call on my Windows Mobile multi-tasking device. Btw, if your putty into somewhere and you get a call on your iPhone I hope you weren't doing anything of vital importance because the app will close. The real funny part about this is that the iPhone already is multi-tasking - Apple just doesn't want the user to run multiple tasks.
And why is there an actual entity on who cares what you install on the device you own? Unless of course you really don't own the device you just bought. | |
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| Re: Why said by k1ll3rdr4g0n :said by GOLFnSUN :said by MightyPez :Jailbreaking doesn't necessarily mean making it work on other networks. Most people that jailbreak their iphone do so because they want to run apps that are not approved by Apples draconian app store censors. I am NOT an Apple fan, and I call BS on the claim that Apple is any way, shape, or manner DRACONIAN in the approval of apps for their App Store. Proof? How about that there are over 40,000 apps in the App store. You mean the 39995 novelty apps that have no actual use? I'll take 5 of the "I am rich app". In the mean time I'll putty to a server and make a call on my Windows Mobile multi-tasking device. Btw, if your putty into somewhere and you get a call on your iPhone I hope you weren't doing anything of vital importance because the app will close. The real funny part about this is that the iPhone already is multi-tasking - Apple just doesn't want the user to run multiple tasks. And why is there an actual entity on who cares what you install on the device you own? Unless of course you really don't own the device you just bought. Or you can jailbreak it and install Backgrounder that will allow you to run multiple tasks.
Nice try on pumping up Windows Mobile though.
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| Re: Why said by ptrowski :Nice try on pumping up Windows Mobile though. Someone has to, because it's a terrible, terrible OS. | |
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| Re: Why said by Cogdis :I like Windows Mobile. Maybe the Iphone is better (I haven't used it enough to compare) but I do like being able to run whatever apps I want without having to jailbreak my phone or kill my warranty. It's nice to be able to play Super Nintendo on my cell phone. I've owned 2 WinMo phones (WInMo5, 6, and 6.1) and I can assure you, everything you can do on your WinMo phone, you can do on an iPhone, plus about a thousand other things. All in a much more elegant manner than the hackish WinMo apps. | |
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| Re: Why said by Matt :said by Cogdis :I like Windows Mobile. Maybe the Iphone is better (I haven't used it enough to compare) but I do like being able to run whatever apps I want without having to jailbreak my phone or kill my warranty. It's nice to be able to play Super Nintendo on my cell phone. I've owned 2 WinMo phones (WInMo5, 6, and 6.1) and I can assure you, everything you can do on your WinMo phone, you can do on an iPhone, plus about a thousand other things. All in a much more elegant manner than the hackish WinMo apps. That's amazing because everything you can do on the iPhone you can do on a Windows Mobile device. Name one thing that you can do on a iPhone that you can't do on a Windows Mobile device - outside of naming specific applications that do X Y or Z I am pretty sure that they both provide the same functionality. Wifi, bluetooth, 3G, video watching, audio playing, text editing... | |
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| Re: Why said by k1ll3rdr4g0n :said by Matt :said by Cogdis :I like Windows Mobile. Maybe the Iphone is better (I haven't used it enough to compare) but I do like being able to run whatever apps I want without having to jailbreak my phone or kill my warranty. It's nice to be able to play Super Nintendo on my cell phone. I've owned 2 WinMo phones (WInMo5, 6, and 6.1) and I can assure you, everything you can do on your WinMo phone, you can do on an iPhone, plus about a thousand other things. All in a much more elegant manner than the hackish WinMo apps. That's amazing because everything you can do on the iPhone you can do on a Windows Mobile device. Name one thing that you can do on a iPhone that you can't do on a Windows Mobile device - outside of naming specific applications that do X Y or Z I am pretty sure that they both provide the same functionality. Wifi, bluetooth, 3G, video watching, audio playing, text editing... That's what you're not understanding, it *IS* the apps that make the difference. I didn't believe it either until I decided to get an iPhone because a Blackberry was too much money. Not only that, but the interface is light years ahead of WinMo. | |
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| Re: Why said by Matt :That's what you're not understanding, it *IS* the apps that make the difference. I didn't believe it either until I decided to get an iPhone because a Blackberry was too much money. Not only that, but the interface is light years ahead of WinMo. Your logic is flawed. I just compared prices:
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100 - 250 (plus a 30$ refurb is up for grabs!) for blackberries
80-200 $ for iPhones
Now with an iPhone you are REQUIRED to buy a data plan (and you can't take it off), with the blackberry its optional (at least on their site it will let me checkout without needing a data plan).
To do a "real" compare:
200$ for iPhone 3GS
200$ for Blackberry Bold
iPhone minimum plan: 39.99 voice + 30 data = ~70$/month
Blackberry minimum plan: 39.99 voice = ~40$/month
I'm no mathematician but I see the Blackberry as the cheaper choice. Same thing goes for Windows Mobile as the plan's cost the same (that goes for data, voice and texting).
All that aside I think that was a red herring: »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignoratio_···_herring
First we were talking about Windows Mobile vs iPhone then you slip in the fact that you purchased an iPhone because a blackberry was too expensive, then you tell us the iPhone interface is better than Windows Mobile's. | |
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| Re: Why Yeah why the heck do we *have* to buy a data plan with an iPhone or G1?
I hate that. It drives the real cost up so much. The data plans for iPhones supposedly include the extra cost to AT&T for subsidizing phones on 2 year contracts... so why does *everyone* have to pay the same price? | |
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| Re: Why The reason why is due to how most of the Applications work (at least on the iPhone).
If you use multiple apps most of the time, alot of them use some form of internet access to get their information. Thus for full functionality you need internet access all the time (Maps for example on the iPhone).
In addition with the Pay Per Use rate at 1 cent per KB (10.24 Per MB) you can go over the $20 (2G iPhone) or $30 (3G, 3G S) Very quickly... nuff said.
(and BTW, my in-laws live in a dead zone for ATT, when I'm visiting, I can't do much with about 1/2 of my apps.... case in point) | |
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1 edit | My logic is not flawed. When I got my iPhone it was $199 and the BlackBerry was $399. Since I need a data plan for email, that is a moot point. I settled for the iPhone and have come to find out it a very capable phone. Absolutely the best phone I've ever owned.
Glad I see the real reasoning for your apparent dislike on the iPhone though: »Re: sad | |
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| Re: Why I actually have a Touch Pro from Sprint and an Iphone. Each has their own merits. I do like the slick interface of the Iphone but there are some shortcomings with it that make it harder to use on a regular basis.
I've only had the Iphone for a few days and just discovered another "glitch" I'd like to see improved on. I use e-mail a lot. I receive a lot of attachments that I sometimes need to save. These are attachments I might forward to other people. I just realized I can't save attachments anywhere when I get an e-mail on my Iphone. I also can't create a message and attach anything to it.
The thing has 16gb of storage. You would think they would allow you to save stuff on it..... | |
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@rr.com | WRONG, try tethering your Iphone. I guess that removes your everything statement. don't be concerned though, i could care less about any of it. However, I do not own an IPhone because you can not tether from one! Everything is a strong word! | |
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| said by Matt :said by ptrowski :Nice try on pumping up Windows Mobile though. Someone has to, because it's a terrible, terrible OS. I this is:
Appeal to Belief
Anyone think differently? »www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/
Here is a link for you: »www.infidels.org/library/modern/···gic.html
Please next time construct an argument before just throwing "mud". How do you think I would look if I just said "The iPhone is a terrible OS" without making any claims to backup my statement? Pretty foolish no? | |
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| said by Matt :said by ptrowski :Nice try on pumping up Windows Mobile though. Someone has to, because it's a terrible, terrible OS. It's funny when people talk about next-generation mobile phone operating systems. Inevitably, they bring up the iPhone OS, Google Android, and Palm's WebOS. Windows Mobile isn't even considered (and, IMHO, it doesn't deserve to be).
Microsoft needs to step up Windows Mobile. Some of the best cell phone hardware is stuck running a kludge of a mobile operating system because of how unpolished that OS has become. Sure, you can buy a Windows Mobile phone from a hardware developer that has managed to develop a beautiful "skin" over it, but dig any deeper and Windows Mobile rears it's ugly head.
The Zune is interesting because it demonstrates that Microsoft knows how to make a good mobile media device with good software - personally I hope they *do* develop a worthy competitor to the "next-gen" phone OSes - the more choices the better.
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| said by ptrowski :Or you can jailbreak it and install Backgrounder that will allow you to run multiple tasks. Nice try on pumping up Windows Mobile though. I had a friend who had jailbroked (can anyone tell me what the past tense of "jailbreak" is?) his iPhone and he told me that the iPhone ran REALLY slow when he multi-tasked.
But with that aside, I'm glad you have to hack (and possibly void your warranty if something goes wrong) your phone just to get basic modern OS functionality  . Next thing you will be comparing the iPhone to DOS! | |
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| said by GOLFnSUN :said by MightyPez :Jailbreaking doesn't necessarily mean making it work on other networks. Most people that jailbreak their iphone do so because they want to run apps that are not approved by Apples draconian app store censors. I am NOT an Apple fan, and I call BS on the claim that Apple is any way, shape, or manner DRACONIAN in the approval of apps for their App Store. Proof? How about that there are over 40,000 apps in the App store. Quantity is not necessarily equal to quality... | |
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Michigan City, IN | Confused? So if Apple is coming out with a fix that let the hackers hack the GS..how they going to accomplish hacking it after that "hole" is covered up by Apple? | |
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I doubt 3.0.1 will be completely bug free. All it takes is one security flaw in the O/S | |
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| There is no guarantee that the hole will be fixed by Apple. The Dev Team is waiting for the 3.0.1 release to see if the hole was fixed. It all depends on if Apple even knows where the hole is in the first place. Apparently you should be able to use ultrasn0w on the 3GS to unlock it for different gsm carriers but this has not been verified since the phone needs to be jailbroken first. | |
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| iPhone is... wow. I was never a hard core Apple fan. And I'd be the first to say that the iPhone was just hype. My experience with Apple products was an iPod and the occasional play on a friends MacBook. I was skeptical of the iPhone hype and when my contract recently came up I wound up getting a Blackberry Storm which I thought was pretty cool. But then I had a couple issues with call quality and also build quality to the point where I decided to excercise my 30 day option to cancel service. I then went with the iPhone 3GS and all I can say is wow. The Blackberry Storm reminds me of my old Treo in comparison. I've found no shortcomings with email functionality and actually find it a better platform from which to manage messaging. | |
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clubs: | Re: iPhone is... wow. Email displays extremly well on my iPhone, way better than it did on my Curve. The integration with Exchange is great. | |
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