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iPhone 5 Unveiled October 4
And T-Mobile May Not Be Getting Device
by Karl Bode Wednesday 21-Sep-2011 tags: business · wireless · hardware · bandwidth · consumers · wireless
New Apple CEO Tim Cook will take the stage October 4 to unveil the new iPhone 5, sources tell the Wall Street Journal. The source (likely Apple itself) tells the paper that the device will go on sale a few weeks after it's announced. Previous leaks have suggested that while the device will undergo a number of minor aesthetic changes, it won't be a major redesign. While it is rumored to be a dual-mode CDMA/GSM device, the new iPhone likely won't support LTE due to battery/design constraints and under-deployed LTE networks.

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Sprint is expected to finally get the iPhone next month, and rumors suggest they'll be sticking to unlimited data in the hopes of setting themselves apart from AT&T and Verizon. The company's ads featuring Sprint CEO Dan Hesse use their unlimited offerings as a lure, and recent studies suggest Sprint users consume more data and get more bandwidth for their dollar as a result.

Meanwhile, T-Mobile has shot down rumors that they'll also get the device, a leaked internal document quoting T-Mobile Chief Marketing Officer Cole Brodman as saying "we are not going to get the iPhone 5 this year." It's possible T-Mobile (and perhaps Sprint) may both be getting the iPhone 4 this year, but that the iPhone 5 is a limited carrier exclusive through the rest of 2011.

The LTE version of the device likely isn't far behind, and could arrive sometime in the spring of 2012, giving AT&T a little more time to catch up to Verizon in terms of upgraded LTE markets. By the end of this year, Verizon will have 175 running LTE markets to AT&T's 15 -- making the lack of an LTE iPhone this fall a marketing gift to AT&T, who would have been pummeled by LTE deployment comparisons.

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Modus
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no LTE

no LTE = ppl changing to android devices
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Re: no LTE

said by Modus:

no LTE = ppl changing to android devices

The rabid fanboys will eat it up despite no LTE.
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Re: no LTE

The rabid fanboys have no idea what LTE is and will insist that their device has it, along with the bigger geebees and wifis.
tman852

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Re: no LTE

So much hate over a stupid phone...

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Re: no LTE

I don't have hate towards Apple, iPhone, iOS, or any of the users. In fact, I hope Apple releases a very competitive device. It will only drive Android device development that much more. Sadly, given Apple's resort to lawsuits I don't think they can compete any more. If Android device manufacturers lose that competition then they will likely not work as hard to put out greater technology.

The vast majority of iPhone users wouldn't be classified as "rabid fanboys". Those that are generally are clueless and think their device is the end all be all. The same can be said for die hard Android fanboys. Not every Android user is a fanboy. And those that are also think their device is superior to all even if it isn't.
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Re: no LTE

I agree with that. Honestly I'll probably get the iPhone 5, not because I'm some fan boy, I just want the ease of use without all the tweaking and I'm by no means a power user either. I have my PC at home for tweaking and modding, and do it all day long to software as well. Just looking for a solid phone
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Re: no LTE

the razr is a solid phone.

jmn1207
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Ease of use without all the tweaking? Huh?

If you are simply familiar with the interface because you have been using an iPhone device for some time, I can understand. On equal footing, a new Android device is just as simple to use as an iPhone. In some ways it is even easier, and with other features it may lag behind a bit, but there is not clear front-runner, as they are both very user friendly.
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Re: no LTE

I have an iPod touch and android phone. It's just personal preference, I prefer the iOS interface. Not hating on either of the two, just completely my personal preference.
rradina

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Explain to me how killing an App on Android is as easy as killing an app on the iPhone. Granted, one can install an app that makes it easier but that's like the Mac OSX finder. It's a pile and when I asked a die hard Mac user how to use it since I thought it was confusing, they admitted it's a pile and something that everyone replaces with something better.

jmn1207
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Re: no LTE

said by rradina:

Explain to me how killing an App on Android is as easy as killing an app on the iPhone. Granted, one can install an app that makes it easier but that's like the Mac OSX finder. It's a pile and when I asked a die hard Mac user how to use it since I thought it was confusing, they admitted it's a pile and something that everyone replaces with something better.

What point are you attempting to make? Android has true multi-tasking capabilities, it doesn't simulate it by pausing an app and restarting it like the iOS for my iPad and your phone.

Most of the time, simply hitting my phone's back button will stop the app. Some apps can run in the background. If an app is suspected of causing problems of any sort, it is really easy to shut it off on my phone.

Let me see now...I press the Menu button on the front, select Settings, scroll to Applications, and stop the app from the "Running Services" tab. Takes 5 seconds.

When an app crashes on my iPad, or the browser hangs, I have to restart my iPad.

You can play these games all day. My point is that neither device, be it an Android or an iPhone, is significantly easier to use than the other. I can drag and drop files to and from my phone just by connecting the phone to a computer using the power cable. Try using your iPhone to add an attachment to your comments on this forum. My Android phone can. Some things are easier, and some things are a bit more difficult, but it really depends on what you are attempting to do.

A statement that Android phones are complicated is just ridiculous, especially with regards to the latest models that are coming out now.
rradina

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Re: no LTE

And you have to go through the same silly, multi-step sequence of swipes and taps to uninstall an app on the Android. Regarding ease of use, referring to the latest models coming out now in terms of matching the iPhone, well, that says it all.

Regarding your iPad, I've had my app hang the desktop when I yank out the USB cable during debug but if you hit the power button to shut it off (not shut down) and then turn it back on, the lock screen appears and you can get back to the desktop and then kill the app.

From a development perspective, Android is a fragmented pile and although I have to support it, it's a pain in the ass. I love the open idea and using Java, but for now, Apple still has a much more solid product except for the idiot engineers at Apple that somehow believe OSX, XCode and Objective C are bleeding edge.

jmn1207
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Re: no LTE

Clearly you just don't like Android devices. I'm definitely more neutral than you happen to be.

Just so you know, on my Toshiba Thrive, which uses Gingerbread, to uninstall an app is as simple as selecting "My Apps" at the top right, and then touching and dragging any app to the uninstall bin. Is 2 button presses for uninstalling an app all you have an a ridiculous attempt to try an make the device significantly more complicated to use?

Goodness, my iOS software update and backup with my iPad are a freaking frustrating nightmare compared to my Android devices. That says it all.

Hey, if you attempt to reply with your iPhone, try clicking the question mark button to change the spelling of a misspelled word. Go ahead. Have fun retyping your message again if you forgot to copy the text first. How is that for ease of use and a friendly interface?
rradina

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Re: no LTE

Quite frankly, I don't like either of them. As I enter my 26th year in IT, I'm getting tired of learning new stuff "just because". I know that's the corporate way but it seems more like the "monopolist" way. From an idealistic perspective, Android is far superior to iOS but there's a reason Apple eclipsed Exxon as the most valuable American company and it isn't because Android is better.

Folks say the same thing about Windows vs. Unix but it's similar to iOS vs. Android. For instance, to secure our Unix platforms we use a CA tool that provides synchronized accounts in our *nix world (HPUX, AIX and Solaris...yes we have all three). We don't need a tool in Windows because it's built in. A year ago when we upgraded AIX to v6.1, it broke the tool. We looked at an upgraded client but it required the central DB to be upgraded which was an enormous task. The fragmentation in Unix is to blame and that same tired song is now playing on the Android world.

We hate to be locked into one vendor's way of doing thing but at the same time, multiple vendors still demonstrate that they cannot behave with an open platforms. It's like they feel naked without some proprietary add that they think makes them better.

As another example, both iOS and Android use a "WebKit" based browser but Android didn't follow Apple (who was there first). A graph we produced on our back end displayed correctly on the 3G, 3Gs and iPhone 4 despite the iPhone 4's retina display and considerably higher DPI. It just worked. On Android we were forced to have the app query the Android's display properties and send them as cookies so we could right-size the graph. Even though the browser in the style sheet to scale and fit the display, it didn't work and we had to create a custom size graph with a formula to adapt the width and height based on the screen's DPI. That's horseshit!

There's also a terrible bug in the Android WebKit browser where it doesn't honor z-order. The browser smartly looks for things like addresses and phone numbers and makes them into links that integrate with phone functionality (maps/dialing). Unfortunately they don't bother to rebuild the hot spot map on the screen when styles on the screen are changed to hide/display elements. If one covers the other, the hot spot that's covered remains and it dials even though the user tapped a control that was on top of it. The bug's been open for over a year without being fixed. That's horseshit!

We finally had to remove dialing/mapping accelerators on the Android even though it was a useful feature we wanted. That's horseshit.

Believe in Android all you want but it needs to mature. I actually hate Apple but I admire them for perfection. It permeates the company and you can tell in the mobile devices they create. While I still believe OSX is a pile, my MacBook Pro is a fantastic piece of hardware. It feels like a quality device down to the power connector which is magnetic instead of the usual pressure fit plug that can invariably be ripped out damaging either the laptop or the connector or both. Apple thought about folks tripping over the power cord and solved it. Although the keyboard feels great, I do miss many of the keys on a typical Windows laptop and I think it's insane the various combinations of keys I'm forced to use to simulate those keys. (I use a lot of Citrix Apps and it's a pain.)

When I purchased a 3G, I marveled at what a quality feel it had. It didn't feel like a cheap piece of plastic like other phones. When the iPhone 4 arrived, there is no equal in terms of what it feels like in your hand. I thought the 3G was great and now when I use one to test apps, it feels like a cheap piece of crap in comparison.

Compare the iPad with the Android tablets and you'll find much the same. The Galaxy is nice but it still isn't an iPad2. The Xoom was a thick piece of shit in comparison to the iPad. It felt cheap. it felt rushed and it worked like crap. (Of course that's more Android 3.x than anything but...)

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said by thegeek:

In fact, I hope Apple releases a very competitive device.

You sir are living in a dream world if you think apple will *ever* do that.
Apple hardware is always at least one gen behind the leaders but if ya slap a shiny apple logo on it, the sheeple will stumble over each other for the overpriced underpowered device.

no LTE because they're hoping to milk the old tech for another gen.
iphone 6 probably will have LTE.
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Re: no LTE

said by dvd536:

said by thegeek:

In fact, I hope Apple releases a very competitive device.

You sir are living in a dream world if you think apple will *ever* do that.
Apple hardware is always at least one gen behind the leaders but if ya slap a shiny apple logo on it, the sheeple will stumble over each other for the overpriced underpowered device.

no LTE because they're hoping to milk the old tech for another gen.
iphone 6 probably will have LTE.

They aren't hoping to milk the technology, they are waiting for a single chip LTE solution. That is why devices like the HTC EVO 4G (WiMax) and the LTE 4G devices suck battery, they have multiple chips to power.

jseymour

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said by tman852:

So much hate over a stupid phone...

LOL! You think what you're seeing here is "hate?" Ha! Just whisper "'droid" to an iPhone fanboi and watch 'em start foaming at the mouth!

Personally, I've little doubt the iPhone is more elegant than a 'droid phone, or that an iPad is more elegant than my 'droid-based tablet. But the iPad is too expensive, IMO and the iPhone... well... I don't care for Apple's limited distribution model. I'm certainly not going to change carriers to get it.

Jim

gigahurtz
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Re: no LTE

What a surprise, a Android fanboi claiming that iPhone fanboi's are worse.

Get over it, it's a phone. Buy what you like and move on with your life.

jseymour

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Re: no LTE

said by gigahurtz:

What a surprise, a Android fanboi claiming that iPhone fanboi's are worse.

Don't own either, and figure the iPhone is probably marginally superior.

Guess again.

Jim
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said by thegeek:

The rabid fanboys have no idea what LTE is and will insist that their device has it, along with the bigger geebees and wifis.

I don't think so.

What we do know is that the iPhone gets better battery life than the bleeding edge LTE phones. It's nice not being tethered to a power outlet all day.

So if you want bleeding edge, by all means a new android with all the bells and whistles is for you.

If you want something practical, get an iPhone.

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Re: no LTE

I use my Thunderbolt a lot during the day. My battery lasts well over 18 hours even under heavy use. The additional radio does use up some extra power, but not as bad as many think. I see nothing wrong with having to charge my phone every night while I'm sleeping. It's not even close to inconvenient to charge during that time.

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Re: no LTE

I miss the days where a cell phone would definitely last a few days, and could last almost a week without being recharged.
puck0114

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Re: no LTE

You can still get one. But it's not gonna be a "smart" phone.

Razzy12345

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They still exists. Just look for a feature phone... =p

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ALL smartphones are waiting for one thing..

Intels new ( soon to be released) processors. For now there laptop based but are said to give you days of usage over the normal 4 or so hours you currently get out of your dual core laptop. Just wait for a shrunk down version that can fit android and Iphones, I give it till 2015...

»www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2···tery-l/1

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said by thegeek:

I use my Thunderbolt a lot during the day. My battery lasts well over 18 hours even under heavy use. The additional radio does use up some extra power, but not as bad as many think. I see nothing wrong with having to charge my phone every night while I'm sleeping. It's not even close to inconvenient to charge during that time.

I agree. I easily get a full day out of my Droid Bionic with 4G LTE and WiFi on. Gingerbread seems to be much smarter about turning the various radios off and on automatically when the phone is idle. With 4G off, I don't even use 50% of the battery by bedtime.

It is an order of magnitude better than my HTC EVO 4G, but still about 2 hours behind the iPhone 4 on most benchmarks.

jmn1207
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Re: no LTE

Let's not forget that Apple MUST have a long lasting battery, as there is no option for the customer to use an extended-life battery or to be able to swap batteries if it loses a charge away from a power source.

Battery life is certainly a more critical factor for the iPhone.
puck0114

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Re: no LTE

Exactly. I can carry an extra battery if I need to, or get an extended life battery, or do both. I can turn off features I'm not using with a simple touch (although I hardly ever do this anymore and still get a full day's life on my EVO, even with 4G on). There are no options to extend your battery life on the iPhone, a fact that's generally glossed over.

quanteger

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Re: no LTE

There are external battery packs you can purchase that act as a portable wall charger for the iPhone. The one I have (Fueltank UNO) can charge my iPhone from empty to full at least once on a full charge (and has different connectors so I can also use it to charge miniUSB, microUSB, etc).

Not as convenient as being able to purchase a higher-capacity internal battery, I agree, but it's definitely a possibility, and in my opinion it's definitely worth having as an emergency backup.

jmn1207
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said by puck0114:

There are no options to extend your battery life on the iPhone, a fact that's generally glossed over.

There is an option to use a portable battery-powered source that can extend the battery life. Some of these come in the form of an iPhone case, and other options are similar to Radio Shack's iGo stuff. So, while the option to physically swap out the battery on an iPhone might not be readily available, there are solutions available to essentially do the same thing that an extended battery accomplishes.

Edit: As already stated before I posted.

Jeremiahedd

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Sure the iPhone has no extended life battery they make portable chargers and cases that work very well.
VictorWI

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said by puck0114:

... still get a full day's life on my EVO, even with 4G on...

I'd like to know how you do this. I can't get through 8 hours on 3G and if I am in a 4G area I can practically see the bar going down real time on my EVO. Can't wait for the iPhone on Sprint!
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Re: no LTE

It seems that every phone and/or battery is different. I use my phone moderately through the day (I don't stare at it for hours on end because I have to work), email, browsing, texting, calling, some YouTube videos, Market downloads, playing music and tracking my runs. I don't have my widgets set to download data that frequently (every couple hours). Portland is a pretty strong 4G WiMax area, so I almost always have access to the 4G speeds. I only have to recharge at bedtime and usually have about 20% to spare by then. If I have my extended battery in, I get two days juice. Just lucky, I guess.
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and just how many of you "I can carry a second battery" people actually carry that second damn battery anyway? Get over yourselves already! Many of you "I can carry a second battery' spend the time you're not bitching about apple's internal battery, bitching about wanting your phone to do everything, including wipe your butts, so I doubt that second battery is really in your pocket.

Further, there ARE ways to have more battery power, it's called a battery pack case.. and so you know, they even make them for those robot phones the same they do iPhones. So, sorry to say, you do have options to extend your battery life. However, aside to that, I happen to enjoy my 8 hours talk time and don't need a second battery and unlike you, some of us don't have to turn things on and off in our phones to spare batteries. That's about the same as a truck owner turning off their truck everytime they go down hill to get better fuel economy.

Again, really, the 5th grade called and wants you all to, well, get out! .. it said you've already been here, years ago and it's time for you to leave.

fifty nine

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said by thegeek:

I use my Thunderbolt a lot during the day. My battery lasts well over 18 hours even under heavy use. The additional radio does use up some extra power, but not as bad as many think. I see nothing wrong with having to charge my phone every night while I'm sleeping. It's not even close to inconvenient to charge during that time.

You must be lucky.

Some people with a thunderbolt have been reporting 4 hours!

»www.gottabemobile.com/2011/03/18···ry-life/

I've never seen that even on my worst battery days with my iPhone 4. I get at least 8 hours even with heavy use and I've regularly gone for 2 days without a charge. Normally the battery is at 40-50% when I get home around 7PM.

My iPhone has been off charger since 5AM and right now it's at 85% and most of that drain has been from commute time websurfing.
ISurfTooMuch

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Re: no LTE

Four hours is a little extreme, although I can see how you could manage that if you were doing something like video streaming over an LTE connection without an extended battery. For everyday use, getting only four hours would indicate your battery is defective or you're got a misbehaving app running.

For me, my Thunderbolt has worked great. Granted, the first software update caused random reboots when I wasn't connected to wi-fi, but I'm almost always using wi-fi, so that wasn't a huge deal for me, and the MR2 update fixed it. OTOH, my wife loves her iPhone, and I have to admit, it's a great device. I've never seen a device with a keyboard as good. It's a smaller screen than my Bolt, but I seem to make fewer typing mistakes on it.

As for LTE on the iPhone, I can understand why Apple isn't doing it. LTE is still very new, and the hardware still demands lots of power. The iPhone is centered around an overall predictable and pleasant user experience, so Apple is going to wait for LTW to mature a bit more. To use a car analogy, if a phone like the Thunderbolt was a car, it'd be a vintage Mustang--fast as hell but requiring lots of gas and an owner who knows something about it in order to drive it to its fullest potential, while the iPhone would be a Camry--nice looking, dependable but not state of the art. There's room in the market for both.

Matt
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said by fifty nine:

You must be lucky.

Some people with a thunderbolt have been reporting 4 hours!

»www.gottabemobile.com/2011/03/18···ry-life/

I've never seen that even on my worst battery days with my iPhone 4. I get at least 8 hours even with heavy use and I've regularly gone for 2 days without a charge. Normally the battery is at 40-50% when I get home around 7PM.

My iPhone has been off charger since 5AM and right now it's at 85% and most of that drain has been from commute time websurfing.

It all depends on how you use it and if you're smart about background apps. I unplugged my Bionic at 6AM this morning and I'm at 40% battery. I've had LTE enabled all day, plus been on and off WiFi at Panera for lunch. This has been a relatively heavy usage day for me as well, as my daughter has been kicking my butt at Words with Friends and I've been composing more emails than normal.

I play a few games that have background processes like I mentioned, have Facebook/Twitter, Exchange and Live.com email accounts, plus Pulse pulling RSS feeds from about 10 different news sites every 30 minutes.

The iPhone definitely has better battery life on the whole, mainly due to the way iOS works, but Android is really making leaps and bounds in this area.
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said by thegeek:

The rabid fanboys have no idea what LTE is and will insist that their device has it, along with the bigger geebees and wifis.

About 1/3 of them believe they already have 4G

»technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20···-they-do
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said by The WeaseL:

said by Modus:

no LTE = ppl changing to android devices

The rabid fanboys will eat it up despite no LTE.

It's an iPhone 5. Obviously it's better then 4G LTE. It's 5G for heaven's sake!!!...

The WeaseL
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Re: no LTE

said by cdru:

said by The WeaseL:

said by Modus:

no LTE = ppl changing to android devices

The rabid fanboys will eat it up despite no LTE.

It's an iPhone 5. Obviously it's better then 4G LTE. It's 5G for heaven's sake!!!...

Thats where I went wrong!
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jeremiahedd

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It's sad people think that because a phone has LTE its better. You have to actually be on an LTE tower for that to work which most of the country does not have. Only major cities so far. And it does suck the life out of batteries. Which is why Apple doesn't use it yet. They want to fix that problem before bringing it out.

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Re: no LTE

The LTE footprint may not cover a large geographical area. But it does cover a large population area. And it is getting bigger. Won't be long and Verizon's LTE network will cover more geographical area than AT&T's 3G.

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said by jeremiahedd :

It's sad people think that because a phone has LTE its better. You have to actually be on an LTE tower for that to work which most of the country does not have. Only major cities so far. And it does suck the life out of batteries. Which is why Apple doesn't use it yet. They want to fix that problem before bringing it out.

It really depends on how the customer expects to use their device. Perhaps it means little to you, but for some people, this might be a critical factor to consider.

For me, I use my device between home and work, with very little travel outside this immediate area. At home I can use WiFi, and at work I get a great Wimax signal with Sprint. I keep my device plugged in during the day when I am at my desk, and I can stream MOG music's 320 kbps mp3 files or stream HQ video using the SlingMedia player.

I currently have no bandwidth caps for my phone and the "4G" service has proven to be good enough for me to stream music or video all day long. I will watch afternoon baseball games, the Tour de France, early rounds of major golf tournaments, international soccer matches, or even just monitor the local news when the weather is bad or some other event of interest take place.

AT&T's service in my area is not consistently fast enough for me. Verizon's LTE service is great, and I tested this out for a week; but I gobbled up nearly 4GB of data over 5 days attempting to use the service in a similar manner as I typically do with Sprint. I was heading for a $180 bill at the rate I was consuming data, and for streaming media, there was little difference between Verizon's LTE and Sprint's Wimax.

A phone with LTE might be the better option, depending on the situation.

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said by Modus:

no LTE = ppl changing to android devices

This is a good point. I just bought a Droid Bionic rather than waiting for the iPhone 5 because of the lack of LTE. It immensely improves the experience over the 3G technologies, EVDO and HSPA/HSPA+.

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join:2005-01-28
Scarsdale, NY
LTE is not necessarily an advantage. The great thing about Apple products is that they put a lot of thought into the user experience. If they can't get a full days battery life with LTE, they won't release an LTE device. Honestly my iPhone 4's internet connection is plenty fast enough for me. It's not like I'm going to be torrenting on my phone.

As an AT&T customer, I'd rather have them put more money into better HSPA+ coverage and improving overloaded cell towers than LTE.

thegeek
Premium
join:2008-02-21
united state
kudos:1

Under Deployed LTE Networks?

AT&T may have an under deployed LTE network, but Verizon sure doesn't. I'm sure AT&T was able to negotiate some sort of deal with Apple to delay and LTE device because without a delay they'd get a small majority of sales compared to Verizon.

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liaaa

@comcast.net

don't care.

What the point I don't need a new cellphone one I have works I can change the battery. Buy ebook and download ebook from the bn or kindle within the app. surf the web and make calls. Think you can guess I don't have Iphone because first 2 points LMAO. Use what you want but don't waste money on crap just because you can unless your rich. Way I see it if most of USA is jobless then fads don't matter.
tcope
Premium
join:2003-05-07
Sandy, UT
kudos:1

Re: don't care.

Clueless...

Let the "rich" "waste" money! That is what improves the economy!

Bugger

@twcable.com
You miss the entire point, fashion always matters and it is a fashion accessory, it goes well with my white shoes and silver bracelet with charms o_O

Now the iPad I don't understand. It is not a fashion accessory (too big, doesn't fit in a purse), it is difficult to use as one has to hold it, and in reality it doesn't do all that much, other than using it as a mirror to do makeup
leo81486

join:2010-10-21
Brooklyn, NY

Re: don't care.

many apple fanbois donno sh1t about LTE or HSPDA..
many of my friends, they just like the apple name .. they had no idea what spec of apple's r .. dumb@$$S
Sammer

join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA
said by liaaa :

Way I see it if most of USA is jobless then fads don't matter.

Officially over 22 million are unemployed or underemployed in a workforce of about 153 million. Because some have given up looking for work they are no longer counted in the official numbers so the unofficial actual numbers are higher. As bad as that is, with over 130 million employed the USA isn't really jobless.

AnonName

join:2011-07-20

iPhones and Droids got nothin on...

iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2

Re: iPhones and Droids got nothin on...

I'll bet I could get service ANYwhere with those...

...oh wait, they're analog. Never mind

AnonName

join:2011-07-20

Re: iPhones and Droids got nothin on...

The analog days. Oh how I miss you...

bobrk
You kids get offa my lawn
Premium
join:2000-02-02
San Jose, CA

Apple Logo

You know they got rid of the rainbow apple quite some time ago, right?

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decifal

join:2007-03-10
Bon Aqua, TN
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Verizon Broadban..

I vs D

Im not saying droids are the devil. I'm just going by what i've seen myself.. Its easier to do things on my iphone 4 than my mothers droid phone that she constantly ask me to help her with... How many market places for apps is there for christ sakes? What is the trick to just being able to see the apps available and perhaps if they are decent looking buy them? Its just like your clicking and praying on that thing!

Also the battery life bothers me.. I hear the lte phones get 3 to 4 hours? Is this true? (please say its not, and without having to root the damn phone)

Mizzat
Will post for thumbs
Premium
join:2003-05-03
Atlanta, GA
kudos:1
Reviews:
·AT&T Southeast

More excited about iOS 5

The time between devises and updates is getting longer and Apple seems to be lagging behind in features. If it was an LTE phone, it'd be great! Otherwise, unless there is some super secret, awesome feature I'm not seeing the appeal. Maybe that'll change Oct 4.

For now, a new battery and iOS update will fit me just fine on my 4!
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-M

Tamarisk

@arkomnet.eu

Gotta love...

How you "have" to buy a new phone every year.

Planned obsolescence has been perfected.

thegeek
Premium
join:2008-02-21
united state
kudos:1

Re: Gotta love...

I don't "have" to buy a new phone every year. I "want" to and do because I can afford it.
fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3

Re: Gotta love...

said by thegeek:

I don't "have" to buy a new phone every year. I "want" to and do because I can afford it.

watch out! you're going to get labeled a "rich" and "republican" and "money waster"...

quanteger

@gatech.edu
I'll admit I don't quite understand the mentality of my friends who upgrade their iPhones every time a new revision comes out. The 3G to the 3GS I can understand, because the 3G was painful to use smoothly. But then these same people went from the 3GS to the 4 upon launch when to me it just doesn't seem worth it.

I'm still going strong on my 3GS, which I believe *just* came out of its 2-year contract. I protect it with a solid case, so it's survived those two years with barely a scratch. The only issue that just cropped up last week is that the "silent" switch has finally bit the dust, but thankfully due to jailbreaking I can override the physical switch in software via a few touchscreen gestures.

I may or may not pick up the 5, we'll see. It depends on how the jailbreak scene manages to work with it, really. Until then, I'll stick with what I've got. Heck, even if it breaks completely I still have my old feature phone I can use in a pinch.

Then again, I might be the exception rather than the rule in terms of "planned obsolescence", as I look down to my desktop computer that I purchased in 2004...

buddahbless

join:2005-03-21
Premium
Reviews:
·Comcast
·T-Mobile US

Tmobile WILL get the Iphone 5!

Seriously.... Its called Unlocking then Jailbreaking ( all thought it will probably still be only 2g data on TMO) .. as its been done numerous times before.....LOL

Im happy with my LG G2X for now and If I upgrade it will be to a HTC Sensation.

WyteKidd

@fuse.net

Noobs!

All of you are stupid for comparing Droid to iPhone! Droid is only an App Market and the iPhone is a hardware and a software. If any of you knew anything about phones on any level you'd be comparing Gingerbread to iOS and HTC or Lg or something to the iPhone. Compare Droid to the App store you silly kids; frankly, Apple sets the bar and then everyone else tweaks it, then Apple will set it again. . . Get over it!
mist668

join:2011-02-15
Middleburg, PA
Reviews:
·Verizon Online DSL

Uhmm....

What makes the iphone 5 so special? So they take an iphone 4 and put a different chrome piece in a different place and a different shade of black case and whalla iphone 5. Big deal, the new blackberries are just as enticing to me as this ijunk.

Oh and I use android. I like the platform over any other, just preference, I don't have to have a reason.
fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3

Re: Uhmm....

Wow.. narrow minded. Got a question.. why don't auto makers do the same thing? Why not still have the 1980 ford focus too? Why change a few pieces of metal and all that? I mean, the question you ask makes no sense.

You sit here and assume that the only people that buy the next model of iPhone are those that already own the one prior to it - which isn't the case. (and to save many of you the issue from pouncing on this, YES, there are people that do, get over it)

So, the fact still remains that there are many people that are leap-frogging over other model. So many people that got the iPhone4 were iPhone 3G owners, not 3G3. And I'm sure there are going to be many 3GS users that didn't get a 4 and will grab the 4S or 5 or what ever it's called. Guess what?? the same thing happens in the android based world as well, .. yo! You think that everytime HTC puts out a new phoen that everyone jumps? No.. the fact is that iPhone makes ONE line of phones, while others have many. It's easier to single out iPhone users from the rest.

Enjoy your android platform.. it was certainly google's attempt to try to compete with the iOS.. envy can be both good and bad. And fanboys come in many colors - please don't think you're excluded from that status.

davegtestr

join:2001-11-07
Bothell, WA
Umm, for two; 1) Use on Sprint family plan w/25% discount and 2) CDMA/EVDO and GSM/UMTS. I won't get caught again in Asia without Internet access. CDMA worked however.
mist668

join:2011-02-15
Middleburg, PA

Big whoop

Simply said.

Metatron2008
Premium
join:2008-09-02
Stockbridge, GA

If Apple is not using LTE until at&t catches up...

Don't EVER expect an Iphone to use LTE.
cableguy619
Premium
join:2003-06-24
Chula Vista, CA

Re: If Apple is not using LTE until at&t catches up...

I rather have unlimited data all day long iPhone 5 or android.. dont care for LTE so much for the fact I dont stream movies, etc on my phone ..

ios seems to be prime for cloud services which is a big plus for me...

Android has some great phones, but the phones simply arent smart lol... I mean install programs on the phone memory? then move it through an app or manually? or root it to accomplish this as well... hit the app menu to pull a pp to the phone home screen? alot of work for a great phone.. I do like the customization, and probably the galaxy 2 - by far has impressed me.

I personally just came off of iphone 4 onto HTC and overall okay with it, but feel like HTC has along way to go.. Other than the Galaxy which I will go check out in store tomorrow if I decide to stay with current carrier or not.. Or just wait for iphone 5 from sprint..

peterrr

@gblx.net

IOS5

The heck with the iPhone 5. Give me IOS5!

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