iPhone Hitting T-Mobile Before Verizon?

said by dellsweig:

The real question to whether this rumor has any legs is to find out if the IP4 has 1700Mhz support (Tmobile uses this). The specs released to the public dont list this band BUT the FCC filing/certification for the IP4 should have that information.

said by ThrowDemsOut:

IF Apple has a Tmobile iPhone, it will probably be a different model and not the same one AT&T has.

said by dellsweig:

The real question to whether this rumor has any legs is to find out if the IP4 has 1700Mhz support (Tmobile uses this). The specs released to the public dont list this band BUT the FCC filing/certification for the IP4 should have that information.

This should be public record - right??

said by AVD:

If it doesn't , it will. And what's to keep apple from releasing the tPhone or the iSlide. I bet it wouldn't violate any exclusivity agreements.

said by dellsweig:

The real question to whether this rumor has any legs is to find out if the IP4 has 1700Mhz support (Tmobile uses this). The specs released to the public dont list this band BUT the FCC filing/certification for the IP4 should have that information.

This should be public record - right??

said by dellsweig:

This should be public record - right??

said by Transmaster:

Remember The iPhone like all other Smart phones has a software defined radio.

said by Transmaster:

Remember The iPhone like all other Smart phones has a software defined radio. I would think it would work on 1.7gHz with updated firmware. This is one area where Apple would have no need for a custom IC. Has anyone here had a chance to take apart an recent iPhone model, or have a clear picture of it's RF section. If we can get the numbers off of the transceiver chip we might be able to refer to a tech sheet to see what it will do.

I looked into the background of this story and this one makes since. The iPhone does not have be re-engineered to work with T-Mobil, and there is the German connection.

I tried to find the type acceptance certificate for the iPhone at the FCC and I failed. It may not even be available for public viewing. The FCC site has long been one of the worst Government sites on the web. The way their search engine works you practically have to know everything about what ever it is you are looking for already to find it.

said by tiger72:

It's not possible for a third party to modify the radio chipset. Moreover, for Apple to enable UMTS Band IV (assuming the radio even supports that band) in the United States, it would need to be re-submitted to the FCC for interference testing. And when that happens, everyone in the world will know.
It doesn't need to be re-engineered. It just needs a new radio. That's correct. As for the German connection, that's been there for 3 years and has had 0 correlation to a TMO USA release in the past.
Search engadget. There's a public FCC listing for every device - including the iphone. The FCC never tested UMTS Band IV on the iPhone4. If the iPhone4 supports AWS, it would have to be tested by the FCC.

said by tiger72:

It doesn't need to be re-engineered. It just needs a new radio. That's correct. As for the German connection, that's been there for 3 years and has had 0 correlation to a TMO USA release in the past.
Search engadget. There's a public FCC listing for every device - including the iphone. The FCC never tested UMTS Band IV on the iPhone4. If the iPhone4 supports AWS, it would have to be tested by the FCC.

said by IowaMan:

Is this sufficient evidence?
»www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/coming-soon/iphone4/

said by Duramax08:

ima go sent a anonymous tip saying the iphone 4 will be at (guesses of a random date) sprint in the first quarter of next year. LOOK AT ME MOM, IM ON THE NEWS LULZ.

said by PToN:

I hope not... I am really happy with no caps and my pandora streams/tethering 8 hours a day.. Iphone would most likely mean caps and overage chargers...

Anyone who wants an Iphone should do what's been done in the past, get an unlocked phone and use it....

said by bronxlcsw:

Doesnt matter anyhow... Why??? Because the just released T-Mobile Galaxy S Vibrant is light years ahead of the I Phone. I should know i owned the Iphone and now own the Vibrant. Trust me.... Its not even close... A superior looking display, bigger screen, camera takes HD videos and sharp photos. Battery life could be a little better. When the phone came out without any elaborate pre-marketing Samsung was hoping that word of mouth would spread the awsomenous of this phone. They were right. Look i have owned every PDA and smartphone since the old
Palm lllx days. Went through Palm 5x ,Handspring visor, HP Jornada and all the versions of the Dell Axim x5, x30 then 51v. Sprints ppc 6700 and mogul 6800. Palm Treo all versions. This was all in the vain search for the perfect combination of phone and pda. Well my search officially came to an end after i put this Galaxy S phone in my hand. Just go get one... You will not be disappointed.

said by airtouch25:

If you look at it from a different angle, T-Mobile International collectively has over 150 million customers worldwide including its US subsidiary. Their brand is global and has a good widely known reputation. They already sell the iconic device in their other markets.

It's never been about who has the best coverage in your opinion. It's about who was able to negotiate the deal Apple wanted on their terms.

It's not about quality coverage either otherwise AT&T would never have gotten a taste of it.

T-Mobile covers most urban areas well and that happens to be where most people use their service. I said most not all.

When you include GSM roaming partners, T-Mobile USA's network covers nearly 296 million Americans.

In January, they covered nearly 208 million Americans with 3G coverage (compared to AT&Ts 230 million POPS covered at that time) and have since added more markets. The gap is getting narrower and T-Mobile is actually ahead of AT&T in HSPA + deployments meaning they have the fastest 3G wireless broadband network in the US. But that won't stop AT&T for milking an already outdated PC Mag article giving them props for fast 3G speeds.

I think for the average American T-Mobile is a decent choice. They have relatively cool hardware and affordable rate plans especially for family texters. True those in rural areas or in the fringes of their coverage areas won't agree but then again T-Mobile never claims to cater to them either.

An iPhone on T-Mobie's US network will give them a huge shot in the arm in terms of net adds and free cash flow. They are hungrier and more eager to land this hot handset than their largest US peer and more likely to deal on Apple's terms.