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clubs: | price seems too good to be true
$10 is giving it away, and iPhone plan prices are already steep, so $30 is gouging. Knowing AT&T, I'm guessing the price will be right in the middle of those two: $20. | |
|  | jc100
join:2002-04-10
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: price seems too good to be true So is 10 dollars!!!!!!!!!!!! 2 dollars PER GIGABYTE!!!!! Isps are the modern day Gestapo. I mean some isps are capping users at 40 and 50GB for normal home lines that cost about 30 or 40 a month. Ridiculous and any idiot that would sign up for this best be aware that going over probably will cost them a fortune.. 10,000 dollar bills anyone? | |
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sousademiami
join:2003-02-04
Miami, FL
·Comcast
 ·AT&T Southeast
| Re: price seems too good to be true You think that's bad....overages are $500/GB
Data Connect
* Rate Plan Details
* Services
Rate Plan Details
Included Data 5 GB
Additional data $0.00048/KB = $503.32/GB
Canadian Data $0.015/KB = $15,728.60/GB
International Data $0.0195/KB = $20,447.20/GB
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| | | | jc100
join:2002-04-10
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: price seems too good to be true Yes because bandwidth is worth it's weight in gold, right? 20,000 dollars for something that cost them 5 or 10. That's like charging 1000 dollars a gallon of gas if you leave your home state, because you take away from others who live there. Crock aint it? | |
| | sfmanuel
join:2001-11-15
Daly City, CA | Mid February and still no official word from AT&T.
IMO - My 3G iPhone is lacking so many standard PDA features which I would happily stop complaining about if it would only allow me to tether my laptop.
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Siryak
join:2005-11-26 | One can hope... That would be awesome if they would. I am not going to pay $30 or even $20 to tether. I don't do it enough to pay that, but I would pay $10. | |
| Chaldo
join:2008-03-18
West Bloomfield, MI | wow might make more people switch. It would be a surprise but a lot of people would like it, might make more people switch to the iphone if they are thinking of tethering. | |
| Couch Potato
What?
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join:2004-08-29
Evansville, IN
·Insight Communicat..
| Why? Why would anyone think AT&T would allow tethering for only an additional $10 for the iPhone ? Their current prices on all other tethering plans aren't that low. All PDAs, Windows Mobile Devices, Blackberries, Palms, and iPhones data plans are $30 for personal use and tethering on all of those, except the iPhone because it's not allowed yet, is an additional $30, even the air cards are $60/month for their data plans. It only seems logical that it would also be an additional $30 for the iPhone. | |
| | fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
| Re: Why? This is no direct attack against you personally, however, why does it matter at this point?
Why has this site become home to the rumor mill type reporting? This site has this desire (names not mentioned) to think they are 'news' when they are in fact regurgitating gossip in the name of "As I was the first to report".. leave that to the networks.
No amount of guessing is going to really matter anyway.. I just don't understand why people worry about what may or may not be when it's not happened, and CLEARLY there have been many stories.. just doesn't seem like front page news at BBR to me, rather, better suited for those int he AT&T forum to gossip about, and one up each other on being able to talk about what 'my friend who works in att told me'.. | |
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@bellsouth.net | QuickPwn It! You can already do it at no charge using Cydia on Quickpwn. Why pay for it? | |
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SteveLV702
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join:2004-04-22
Henderson, NV | Re: QuickPwn It! let see why pay for it cause your doing it illegally so once you do get caught (and you will someday) you will probably get booted off their network if not arrested for Theft of Services.... | |
| | | fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
| Re: QuickPwn It! said by SteveLV702  :let see why pay for it cause your doing it illegally so once you do get caught (and you will someday) you will probably get booted off their network if not arrested for Theft of Services.... Really? Illegal? Care to point any of us to the "law" that says it's "illegal"...?
.. try a better route. It's against the TOS. I swear.. we're not a fascist society, yet. (Yes, they influence the laws, but so do the people) | |
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SteveLV702
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join:2004-04-22
Henderson, NV | Re: QuickPwn It! how is it illegal lets see your using a service and not paying for it. Its called (Theft of Services) but yes its also against their Terms of Service. | |
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Ark
join:2002-06-08
Hudsonville, MI
·AT&T Midwest
| Re: QuickPwn It! Theft of Service would be if you paid nothing, and used the service, such as tapping into your neighbors cable TV and not paying anybody.
Using a service you are already paying for, on a device you already own, and routing it to another device using software you install on the device you own may be against their silly Terms of Service, but that's about as silly as Comcast trying to tell people that using a home router is against their TOS and you can only hook 1 computer to your cable modem. Yes, Comcast HAS tried that in my area, and some people paid an extra $10/month per computer for the privilege of using a router they own to have two computers they own both online, while others just used a router anyway, breaking the ToS.
Personally, ToS that try to limit what software you install on devices you own, along with ToS that try to limit things like what specific websites you can visit, are probably entirely unenforceable. You pay for 5GB/month on the device, use it on the device or pass it through the device however you see fit. | |
| | | | | fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
| said by SteveLV702 :how is it illegal lets see your using a service and not paying for it. Its called (Theft of Services) but yes its also against their Terms of Service. Well, having been someone that spent many years in company security for the cable business, and taking people that acted on theft of service, I think I'm pretty qualified to know what is and isn't theft of service.
To TAKE a service in which you didn't pay for, is theft of service. (Tapping into a feeder, or decoding a security item to gain access to services) This is taking a service that you didn't pay for. This is the type of people that we took to court and it was up to the district attorney to decide if criminal charges would be filed.
To use a service in against the requested desires of the provider, ie: hooking up a second device, route the data outside the TOS, or "tether service" that you already are allowed to use, is simply a violation of the TOS agreement and handled by a company initiated penalty. The big bad police aren't comin' to get you. This type of abuse was handled by disconnection, usually.
You have every right to believe what you'd like, but I'll go with what is actually correct. | |
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joako
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join:2000-09-07
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 ·AT&T U-Verse
| said by SteveLV702 :how is it illegal lets see your using a service and not paying for it. Its called (Theft of Services) but yes its also against their Terms of Service. How is this theft of service? There is no way you an steal something that doesn't exist.
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fiberliar
| Re: QuickPwn It! I agree. You pay for a wireless internet connection with a 5GB "limit." Who are they to say how, when, or where you use it? Theft of service my ass. | |
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digiblur
Got Sipura?
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join:2002-06-03
Louisiana
| No doubt... their plans are already expensive enough.
I've been enjoying broadband tethering on my $30 SERO plan for more than a year.
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| k1ll3rdr4g0n
join:2005-03-19
Homer Glen, IL
| Vs Windows Mobile? Lets see here:
For my Windows Mobile phone I have to pay $30 EXTRA for tethering that AT&T can't track (PM me and I can explain). With a 5GB cap on a connection, and again they can't track.
I really doubt AT&T will sell tethering for an extra $10/month, if so it would be like 5MB and not 5GB. So, why shouldn't iPhone users hack their phones and use netshare? I am calling this another nail in the wireless providers coffin. They have dug their own grave when they implemented a cap. For crying out loud AT&T's own site is ~500kb with all the media, why don't people practice what they preach?
But really what I love about providers is when you read their TOS and question them about it and they go "oh, no, if you do X its not against the TOS." With AT&T's wireless connection you are really only supposed to do surfing and email (makes sense, a 'phone' shouldn't do anything else), but yet they include a HARDWARE button on the Blackjack 2 that is a shortcut to videos they provide, and have XM radio and some other TV watching program on their Windows Mobile platform. I just love how companies can go completely against their own TOS and they aren't in the wrong; yay for America! | |
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LiamJunket
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join:2002-03-03
Ocean City, NJ
·Comcast
|  A better idea - turn cellphone in to wireless access point
»www.pcworld.com/article/156873/a···rss_news
Chip maker Atheros is, for example, working on a technology that will be able to turn a mobile phone into an access point.
The phone will look just like any Wi-Fi access point or hot spot when connecting. Wi-Fi will be used between the PC and the phone, while the phone will connect to the Internet using its mobile broadband connection, meaning, for example, HSPA (High-Speed Packet Access).
Up to four users will be able to connect to the phone at the same time, and there will be support for features such as security using WPA2 (Wi-Fi Protected Access), according to Atheros.
A phone equipped with the Wi-Fi capability will be released later this year, according to Atheros, but the company isn't ready to name any names at this point in time, spokesman Greg Wood said. Maybe their chip will show up in an Android phone or a Palm. But don't expect it to show up at Apple or AT&T or Verizon any time soon.
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join:2004-07-12
Mitchell, SD
1 edit | Re: A better idea - turn cellphone in to wireless access point said by LiamJunket :That makes tethering automatic. Your cellphone in effect becomes a wireless router accepting WiFi connections from any laptop or netbook. Atheros, maker of huge numbers of WiFi chips is planning a chip for cellphones. » www.pcworld.com/article/156873/a···rss_newsChip maker Atheros is, for example, working on a technology that will be able to turn a mobile phone into an access point.
The phone will look just like any Wi-Fi access point or hot spot when connecting. Wi-Fi will be used between the PC and the phone, while the phone will connect to the Internet using its mobile broadband connection, meaning, for example, HSPA (High-Speed Packet Access).
Up to four users will be able to connect to the phone at the same time, and there will be support for features such as security using WPA2 (Wi-Fi Protected Access), according to Atheros.
A phone equipped with the Wi-Fi capability will be released later this year, according to Atheros, but the company isn't ready to name any names at this point in time, spokesman Greg Wood said. Maybe their chip will show up in an Android phone or a Palm. But don't expect it to show up at Apple or AT&T or Verizon any time soon. Been doing that for a year+ with my xv6700 and xv6800.
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Matt
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC | My old HTC Verizon XV6700 could do this. | |
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CCNnorthcali
join:2004-03-07
Tempe, AZ
clubs: | I have been doing this with my N95. Works well, but since I'm on T-Mobile I only get edge speeds. | |
| | | stufried
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join:2003-10-13
 ·Verizon BroadbandA..
| Re: A better idea - turn cellphone in to wireless access point I've done this on Symbian and on Windows Mobile, but I can only get it to work in ad hoc mode. None of these solutions have allowed the chipset to go into AP mode. For most things this is just fine. I have a Sirius Stilleto that won't work in ad hoc mode - only AP mode. | |
| | marozner
Premium
join:2004-05-15
Houston, TX
·EarthLink
| ATT & tehtering I am lost here. If one pays for data, what difference does it make how the data is obtained?
Perhaps AT&T ought to revisit Carterphone vs American Telephone and Telegraph.
In the old days, AT&T tariffs forbid the connection of privately owned equipment to the public telephone network. This tariff was eventually found to be unreasonable. Not to be outdone, AT&T then required customers using the Carerphone (or other nonATT equipment) to have an interconnect device (and, of course, rent it). This practice also was found inconsistent with public policy, and, I think, led to the breakup of the AT&T monopoly.
Currently, though, it appears that the FCC is against application of Carterphone policy to wireless, but I bet that this position changes in the near future. | |
| rdaniel
join:2008-01-16
Cambridge, MA
| WOW, bunch of Thiefts. AT&T is a joke, $99 a month for unlimitted voice, $30 for data and a minimum of $10 to tether, F*** that. The Iphone is a beast in chains, like King Kong. Sprint charges $99 for unlimitted everything. A friend of mine has downloaded over 24GBs tethering over wifi. If can afforded and you're Iphone addict and like the 5GB cap go ahead but other than that I would never pay more for my wireless data than my cable internet. | |
| ebubman
join:2002-01-17
Enola, PA | gross overcharge ummm, i'd consider an iphone but see the $30/mo data charge as usurious. bring it down & i'll consider. | |
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