Google Phone Not The Revolution Some Expected

i wonder who made the decision on the Nexus pricing plan Google or Tmobile ?

it just doesn't make sense to me that they would lock you into only one rate plan. i'm not entirely buying these leaked screenshots.

Me either, at this point, it's all speculation!

Agree that Gizmodo piece may be erroneous. Jan 7 is only a few days away. How many iPhones & Droids will be sold during the interim?

rumor was $199 for the Nexus no contract...i hope the leaked screens are also rumors...

I fought with them on a contract before. I told them I want to get service (had a unlocked phone as well as an unlocked acer aspire with 3G) they told me 1 yr min. service contract and I told them to shove it.

called AT&T customer service and went to the store

the nexus one (htc) has wifi a,b,g,n.. however crap support for wireless broadband (subscription). not even 3g, which tmobile has been loathed to build yet.. apparently the DT parent has it's usa children on a tight budget.

Also, the phone is north of $500 out of contract so this is a non-starter.. $200 out of contract and able to be brought to a prepaid service would have rocked, but alas... no to be had.. the walled garden carriers won't allow it just yet.. until regulation(s) come ThReAtEnInG down on the industry!

Tmobile can't even compete with metro pcs (on price) even though their neck & neck with network coverage...
Where are Tmo's $30 unlimited plans? A google phone will only take off if the service prices become affordable. I could see a $65 voice/data/text service plan working (unlimited, including taxes & fees) but barring that this is a loss for both companies.

You have to be out of your mind with that comment.

Metro PCS does not have a network size of T-Mobile USA.

T-Mobile may not be as large as Verizon, but there are many areas that they service very well. People never give them credit for that. They just dog on the areas they don't.

They cover over 272 million POPS with voice coveage and just over 200 million POPS with 3G. With around 300 million POPS in the US, it's not too far off. T-Mobile just doesn't serve the lowest populated areas as well and relies heavily on roaming if they happen to have an agreement with the rural carrier.

If I only make calls in So California, why do I need to have service in Montana?

Everyone and their mother has a story where carrier X sucks. Just read DSL reports. People love to post these stories everyday as if we're supposed to care?

I got great TMO coverage in Montana this past summer...didn't have a problem with any calls.

There should be not a problem with the unsubsidized phone costing hundreds more than the subsidized one.

The reason is that the 2 years contract rate plans has a portion of your monthly bill goes to recover the cost. Say $15 dollars for your monthly bill is for this purpose. And if the cost of the subsidized phone is $200, the real cost your paid is $200 + $15 x 24 = $560.

So if the unsubsidized phone cost $560. It is not expensive provided that the carrier is willing to reduce the monthly cost of the plan by $15. This justifies the cost of the unsubsidized phone and customer saves money in the long run.

If we in the US are more like the rest of the world the uses a standard cell phone system. You can use the same phone for different carriers that provides that the best coverage and with the cheapest plan. That will really drive competition.

However, I believe that is exactly what the US wireless companies are fighting to avoid.

Since Goggle itself does not have a wireless network. And hoping the existing wireless provider to do the right thing is more like a snow ball in hell.

They were able to strong arm T-mobile into reducing their rates for people who bring their own phone by $10/month, but really that`s still a disingenuous solution. No one has any idea how much of their monthly bill is really going to pay off the loan when they sign a contract.

Quit whining about the $530 unsubsidized price. It's perfectly reasonable. You won't find a high-end smartphone UNLOCKED and unsubsidized for less. Look up the going prices for iPhone 3GS, Nokia Nxx, etc.

The real mistake might be forcing T-Mobile 3G, which is a running joke around here and most of the country. If you like to poke fun at AT&T and their 3G woes, you are gonna have a field day w/ T-Mobile!

I cannot believe people thought a 1ghz Snap, 3.7 in amoled device was going to be had for $200 without contract, I'm mean REALLY???? And yes TMO is a joke, not worthy of this or the HD2. Even after this comes out in a in a few days, the best android phone to buy will still be the Droid because of the network it's on, plan and simple.

Here's an example:

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When I see the raw build cost of the iPhone 3GS for example being $178.96 I'd be a little upset seeing it on ebay unsubsidized for $600. Where did the extra $400 come into play, Apple?

100% profit $357.92
200% profit $536.88
iPhone 3GS cost is in between 200% 300% profit above manufacturing cost.
300% profit $715.84

Why is corporate greed so powerful that not even 100% profit is enough, think about it..

By this I mean put in only part of the frequencies for 3G? I'm tired of companies half assing it and only putting in part of the frequencies and not making it work globally. Meaning I should be able to buy this phone and use 3G for 99% of the carriers in the world yet ATT isn't on the list. I see this all the time and it pisses me off to no end. So many new phones either just came out or are on the list to come soon and they are loaded to the tips with features but they are usually missing one or another frequency so that means it's a no go here. You would think these companies would get smart and pack in as many as possible so they can market them around the world and get as much of the consumer base to buy them.

For example look at the N900, which is a great device but it only has Tmobile 1700 3G, I try to use it on ATT and I'm back on edge. No reason they shouldn't of thrown in the extra frequency to help everyone out. Granted I am on Tmo now so it works fine but if I wanted to take the $550 device over to ATT if I leave I would be screwed I would either have to buy a new variation they might put out or just use edge on a device that is clearly made for high speed networking.

It's not only 3g though they leave out, companies build up awesome devices and then leave out basic things which turns a device from a 9 out of 10 to a 7 out of 10. It's the most moronic business sense I have ever seen and directly opposite of trying to market a decent device and make some money on it.

Sorry for my rant but I am just annoyed with so many companies dropping the ball and doing bonehead moves.

I agree with you. I was pretty interested in this phone until I read that it doesn't support WCDMA 850/1900/2100. I refuse to switch from AT&T just to use the phone the way it was meant to be used... Besides, AT&T has strong 3G coverage at my work (which t-mobile doesn't).

Totally disappointed.

Why would Google upset the current Android ecosystem when it's just starting to take hold? Excellent handsets like the HTC Droid Eris and the Motorola Droid are already available on better networks... along with the TONS of new Android phones that will be announced this year.

Google doesn't belong in the hardware business.

The future of the smart phone market, for me at least, is clear:
Apple iPhone/iPhone OS.
*everything else*/Android OS.

Sure, there's Blackberry and Windows Mobile, but that doesn't really seem like the future to me. Android and the iPhone are were the excitement is.

Googlers are a bunch of tight asses that eat up all the free stuff Google hands out and don't want to spend a penny on anything. So if a Google phone costs more than $1.98, it will stand about as much chance of being a success as that snowball in hell. All the high-minded hoohaa about open software is a crock. What is important to the "open" crowd isn't OPEN at all. It's FREE, FREE, FREEEEEEE!

$200 out of contract, yeah right.
Try $200 with contract a la iPhone or $350-400 w/o contract.
You can get an old phone like RAZR for $100-150...
Yep, those are the choices. I'm sticking with iPhone for a light phone with browser. Or get a Droid/Droid Eris if ATT 3G is really bad in your area. The Droid is about $400 out of contract, though it won't work overseas. That's life, decisions, decisions.