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Comments on news posted 2011-02-17 13:51:55: The United States' first ever national broadband map went live today at this website address, after the American Recover and Reinvestment Act set aside $293 million to engage in a national broadband mapping project. ..

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Smith6612
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Re: I want my money back

I had an initial problem getting it to load in Firefox 4 Beta 11. All it needed was a reload and the map worked.

Thaler
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Re: RESTITUTION

said by pnh102:

This information was LONG AVAILABLE from the ISPs themselves.

Are you kidding? Most general coverage maps were a load of bunk. It wasn't until you locked & loaded your individual address that they'd actually assess if they *really* provided internet to your location.

Hell, AT&T's own site is still borked for my DSL for displaying offerings, simply because I'm signed up for DSLExtreme ATM. Simply having another service exempts me from even seeing the speeds they may advertise.

I don't know if this was really $300 million worth, but with broadband almost becoming a requirement for access to a full job market, it's good to have a one-stop shop. It's unrealistic to ask every person to enter their information 1001 times across the internet's various ISPs in order to get accurate internet offerings.

Smith6612
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Some Small issues...

It seems the map isn't playing nicely at times when I zoom to certain levels, or if I toggle some options around though at least for my area, it seems reasonably accurate except for a few categories where it doesn't seem to have data for.

mr_slick
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should have used some of that cash.....

for a better server(s)! slow as molasses

coldmoon
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Re: Inaccurate map

This is a joke! They don't even list my ISP and claim we have access to 10 MBPS as being most common.

ROTFLMAO! The best we can get here is 3 MP DSL and that is at off peak hours as what IS available is so heavily over subscribed that it is usless for anything other than e-mail in the evenings (slow e-mail, but at least I get it and can reply).

Thanks for wasting our tax dollars. Next time try and actually make the end product worth the time to look at!

KoolMoe
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I played a little and didn't see a way to add user data. It may be completely inaccurate now but if everyone here could map their actual provider and speeds, it would get a lot more accurate quickly. I wonder if the raw data is available and could be mashed into a Google Maps site like DSLR has here...
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What a giant waste of money

We had something way better than this for free years ago.

Anyone on dslreport remember back in the days where you can enter your address/zip code and get an accurate picture of what's available in your area? and at a fairly accurate estimate of speed too due to the CO distance calculator and all.
It also showed cable and other various options too, along with price and bundles.

This map is slow, inaccurate and completely useless.

Duramax08
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Re: Cross-Atlantic WiMAX?

said by Wranthis:

Apparently in Wisconsin I can get Deutsche Telekom AG for wireless service.

Must be some great line of sight to Germany.

edit- maybe its a typo, if it is supposed to be "Douche Telecom" and they mean AT&T?

i lold.
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Does Phoenix really have virtually no broadband?

For Arizona, the service for Tucson, AZ is widespread and dense. For Phoenix, there is almost no coverage indicated. Could this be true?
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buquerque[sic], NM has great coverage for non-existent city

buquerque[sic], NM has great coverage for non-existent city

aefstoggaflm
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Re: Page not loading properly for me

said by Jovi:

said by djdanska:

said by lordfly:

No matter what browser; Firefox, IE or Chrome, it loads, briefly shows the dialog box then disappears and shows only a blank page with a line at the top.

Me too.

Me three.

me four

pokesph
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..doesn't load

Count me among those who this map won't load for.. in fact I tried all the browsers here and all i hot was a blank page with a
on it..

kind of useless if no one can see it.
jupiter837
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Useless, useless, useless and even more useless.

Ok, AT&t dsl service is available in my "area" but not to me and the others within mile distance. I know I can't get it because I have called at&t about a thousand times and each time they tell me I can't get it. All this does is tell me I will never get DSL, because bullshit maps like this says I can already get it.
ShellMMG
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Maxed Out

I wasn't sure if it was my (lack of ) download speed or the site is flooded. Probably the latter. And given the fed's idea of cutting-edge technology, they're probably running their servers with Windows 98.
rdmiller
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Actual cost

The map's actual cost is $200 million over five years, including development, grants doled out to compile broadband data, and maintenance.

KrK
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It's actually accurate here....

It shows AT&T and Cox, and that's our choices. Oh it shows various Wireless 3G operators but we all know that's not acceptable or affordable for your home "broadband" connection.

So, yes, it's accurate for my zip. Robust competition.... NOT.
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Re: RESTITUTION

The problem isn't the Government. It's the Corporations who provide false, misleading, inaccurate data rife with omissions and errors. To deliberately foul it up.
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Re: Connection Nation is paying me a personal visit.

said by ShellMMG:

On March 9th a senior technician from Connection Nation will paying me a visit, signal equipment in tow. He works and lives in Colorado but *offered* to take a look at the local situation.

Are you sure he's not coming to shoot you?

KrK
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said by Bogers Matt :

Knee-jerk much? This map was made, pursuant to the Broadband Data Improvement Act, passed unanimously in both houses, and signed into law by President George W. Bush.

It's still a $300M waste, but to pretend that the out of control DC spending is new is folly.

Owned.

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Re: To the taxpayers dissatisfied with this "project"

That will go in one ear and out the other as our congress is too busy planning for their re-elections to keep their hog troughs full of pork. Just another excuse to spend money that we can't afford by a bi-partisan group of modern day extortionists

defiant8
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Freedom of Speech: use it or lose it.
ShellMMG
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Re: Connection Nation is paying me a personal visit.

I'm in prime hunting territory in Michigan. I guarantee I'll have more guns on the property than he does!

Seriously, he sounds like a nice fellow. He grew up in MI and used to live here, so he's familiar with the challenges we face in the broadband department.
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Virus

I clicked on the state bar on the map layout and something took over my sons computer and it is now in the blue screen of death completely f**king useless thank you f**king Obama.

pnh102
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Re: RESTITUTION

said by Bogers Matt :

Knee-jerk much? This map was made, pursuant to the Broadband Data Improvement Act, passed unanimously in both houses, and signed into law by President George W. Bush.

It's still a $300M waste, but to pretend that the out of control DC spending is new is folly.

Agreed.

I do not want to make this about the current president. Both he and his predecessor suck when it came to fiscal discipline. My comment is directed at all the people who argued that "only the government could come up with the best possible map."
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said by KrK:

The problem isn't the Government. It's the Corporations who provide false, misleading, inaccurate data rife with omissions and errors. To deliberately foul it up.

I told you not to make me post the list.

FIOS Lookup by Address - »www22.verizon.com/residential/fi···lity.htm

Verizon DSL Lookup by Address - »www22.verizon.com/Residential/Hi···Internet (follow "Check Availability" link on this page.)

Qwest DSL Lookup By Address - »www.qwest.com/MasterWebPortal/re···Hsi=true

AT&T DSL Lookup By Address - »www.att.com/dsl/ (Click on "Start Now" link under "Get DSL Without Phone Service")

AT&T Uverse Lookup By Address - »www.att.com/u-verse/explore/inte···ding.jsp (Click on "Shop Now" link)

Comcast Lookup By Address - »www.comcast.com - (Under the "Shop" menu click on "High-Speed Internet")

Cox Service Lookup - »ww2.cox.com - Enter ZIP Code then go to region specific site.

Charter Service Lookup - »www.charter.com - Enter address on front page.

Time Warner Cable - »www.timewarnercable.com/ - Enter ZIP on front page.

Simba7
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Re: SE corner of Montana..

Click for full size
Hmm..

KrK
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Re: RESTITUTION

Thanks, but that was my point.

Thaler
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One, all these ISPs have generic coverage maps that aren't worth the paper they're printed on. Only once you submit a "hook me up" order do you actually get real data.

Second, your list doesn't cover every ISP out there. Given independents, communal fiber, and other choices that vary from region to region, there's many more address lookups to check into. Also, if I wish to keep up-to-date on offerings for all these services, I need to re-enter my information manually for each site.

So yeah, the information was "already there" in that regard...but it was in a useless format. I mean, if we were to extrapolate that thought, there's also no "need" for search engines. All the information they provide is simply a reprint from somewhere else.

Now, whether this could have been done cheaper is a different question altogether.

pnh102
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said by Thaler:

One, all these ISPs have generic coverage maps that aren't worth the paper they're printed on. Only once you submit a "hook me up" order do you actually get real data.

For most people, these lookup tools work just fine. It simply isn't in any ISP's self interest to hide this information. My point is that you people here act like this information is some state secret when it isn't.
said by Thaler:

Second, your list doesn't cover every ISP out there.

Then do your patriotic duty and help to complete it.
said by Thaler:

So yeah, the information was "already there" in that regard...but it was in a useless format.

Except that it seems to work for most people.

Thaler
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said by pnh102:

said by Thaler:

One, all these ISPs have generic coverage maps that aren't worth the paper they're printed on. Only once you submit a "hook me up" order do you actually get real data.

For most people, these lookup tools work just fine. It simply isn't in any ISP's self interest to hide this information. My point is that you people here act like this information is some state secret when it isn't.

Then here's a better question, why isn't that information already on their public coverage maps? Why do they claim to cover an area when they really don't service it?
said by pnh102:

Then do your patriotic duty and help to complete it.

I'd rather be a capitalist and wait for someone else to do it for cheap/free, or get paid to do it myself. My time's not free.
said by pnh102:

Except that it seems to work for most people.

I'll have to agree to disagree here. I've come across plenty who didn't know they had other broadband options out there.
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