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Comments on news posted 2011-07-12 16:33:27: As we just got done saying yesterday, Netflix is facing very steep price hikes as they begin renewing contracts with copyright holders who are uncomfortable with the amount of market power Netflix has quickly accumulated. ..

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NickD
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Re: Physical media hardly dead

You could take all your change to a casino and cash it in, casinos still have coin sorting machines since slot machines used to take and pay out coins.
Amema
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No need for Netflix

Edit: This site hates me, this wasn't supposed to be a new topic. Go ahead and delete lol

Augustus III
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Re: Actually this may be a brilliant move on the part of Netflix

said by Wilsdom:

Rather far-fetched. As one of the few legal high-bandwidth internet applications Netflix had a good case against caps on anti-trust grounds. All other heavy use of the internet is done by pedophiles and thieves.

a new level of stupidity on this site has been achieved.

soooooooo.. which of the 2 groups you mentioned do you belong to? inquiring minds want to know.
tmc8080
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last year

there was that movie theater ticket price jump in 2010, and now the other shoe.. PPV,streaming and rentals are getting the boost in prices too! this comes conveniently when a deal was reached trying to crack down on "piracy". again the gap between free and fee grows putting more consumers in the 'free' choice where, otherwise they'd be paying customers.
88615298 (banned)
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Re: Physical media hardly dead

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Not a good idea, unless you want your stuff seized at Customs. They are now checking electronic devices for porn, illegal content and copyright infringment at US borders. Don't cross any borders with illegally ripped material!

How can they prove it was copied illegally? There's no discernible difference between the "digital copy" of Toy Story 3 on my iPhone and the DVD ripped copy on my daughter's iPod.

Oh so you admit it's illegal and you still do it?

Trinijoy
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It always makes me laugh how hard people are on others when they lose there jobs. Stop being a jerk and have SOME sympathy. When you put your heart and soul into a job so long and your let go, it would make anyone mad.

Snakeoil
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Thanks to the ISPs that like the cap idea.
Add to that, some of the studios won't let Netflix stream the movies.
So DVD is the only option in that case.
I like both methods.
Snakeoil

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One reason why when I buy a DVD, I look to see if it has a digital copy. I'd rather carry digital copies, vs the physical media.
Granted you can rip any DVD into a usable digital copy, but that is something I haven't tried.

v35_pilot
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said by disconnected :

Not a good idea, unless you want your stuff seized at Customs. They are now checking electronic devices for porn, illegal content and copyright infringment at US borders. Don't cross any borders with illegally ripped material!

My "Bullshit meter" is pegged in the red. You are going to need to link a credible source before I would ever believe that Customs has the time to have every person boot up their electronic device and stand around while it is scanned and the data analyzed.
BHNtechXpert
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Re: There's Always RedBox

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If Netflix goes up to those price points, my wife will quit the plan and just rent at RedBox. $1-$1.50 (BD) is impossible to beat. We're already renting at Redbox almost weekly.
Blockbuster lost us when they jacked prices up to $5 per rental. Netflix might be next to go.

The problem with Redbox is the lack of selection choices and it's a real pain in the ass to return movies to busy locations. Most of the time you get the infamous "we're sorry this redbox is full and cannot accept any returns at this moment". And since Redbox unit owners are franchises (apparently) each operates their boxes differently some good and some bad. I waited 3 days for them to empty our local redbox and gave the company holy hell when they tired to charge me late fees.

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I will pay if their streaming content improves

I'll pay for timely new releases. right now their streaming content is pretty scarce. Not much in terms of quality either. "Mega Shark vs Godzilla" isn't worth the price increase to me.

Netflix, are you listening?
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Re: Physical media hardly dead

said by v35_pilot:

said by disconnected :

Not a good idea, unless you want your stuff seized at Customs. They are now checking electronic devices for porn, illegal content and copyright infringment at US borders. Don't cross any borders with illegally ripped material!

My "Bullshit meter" is pegged in the red. You are going to need to link a credible source before I would ever believe that Customs has the time to have every person boot up their electronic device and stand around while it is scanned and the data analyzed.

Not "every". It is enough to get an idiot agent to start looking randomly at your stuff, not like your face, confiscate your device and then take their sweet time to charge you with anything they could think of.

Happened a lot in Russia, now common practice in the "land of the free".
ShellMMG
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Re: Actually this may be a brilliant move on the part of Netflix

*sigh* Those of us who've had to live with criminally low caps (I'm looking at YOU, Wildblue) have known this was coming for years. We're very experienced in the pain of monitoring family bandwidth use and all those Netflix adverts just jerk our chains even worse. Streaming, Slingbox...all those services won't really work because if you blow your cap you're throttled to dialup speed, if not overcharged.

IMHO, this slow frog-boil is what the major ISP's want. Anything too hard and abrupt after years of true unlimited usage will cause more public outcry than they want. If it were to happen all at once, THEN the public would pay closer attention and howl to congress.

I'll admit I feel a little resentment. But jealous? Not really. It's more like sympathy, knowing when the SHTF there's going to be a lot of unhappy customers out there with FIOS and really nice speed on the download, but the service has airbrakes that are the pits.

Netflix, Google, Amazon and other content providers needed to be pushing back YEARS ago.

RockCake
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Streaming only

If Netflix expects me to go streaming only they'd better

a: significantly increase their streaming library
b: allow TRUE unlimited streaming. None of this 1 or 2 simultaneous streams crap. If I can register up to 6 devices, let me stream up to 6 devices.

biggbrother
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Almost $20 a month for 1 Blu-ray at a time and streaming?

The way this looks I'll be paying around $18-$20 a month for 1 blu-ray-at-a-time and unlimited streaming since Netflix charges around $2-$3 for Blu-Ray on top of their normal fee.

This just isn't worth it for me. I get maybe 2-3 blu-rays a month during a good month. I've watched a half dozen movies completely on streaming in the last 6 months, but I usually don't find anything compelling to watch. Especially since it seems that Netflix limits browsing titles on the Xbox and the built-in app in my TV, forcing me to browse titles on a PC and add them to my Queue in order to access them ion those devices.

I'm leaning towards just utilizing RedBox more for newer titles and cancelling my Netflix. Although it might only sound like an extra $8 or $9 extra a month, but that's $100 extra a year for something I found I was getting marginal value out of before.
jp10558
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So for a 5/out DVD user - what does this actually mean?

What I want to know is I get DVDs. I pretty much don't use streaming at all. Am I going to have to do something? It's not clear at all - are they going to add $8/mo to my bill?
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said by jp10558:

What I want to know is I get DVDs. I pretty much don't use streaming at all. Am I going to have to do something? It's not clear at all - are they going to add $8/mo to my bill?

Anyone that doesn't use streaming is actually going to see a price DROP.

Selenia
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Re: I'll pay less

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local rental business? I think you may have to travel a far distance for a "local rental business."

2 are within about a half mile of my work. Geez! I just don't know if I can make it that far.

Sly
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I'll stay with Netflix. Some of you just jump ship...

I've been on VoIP since 2003 and saw the same thing happen to them. Phone companies lobbied to have the services shut down because they were losing business. They lost that battle and now VoIP is more common than ever. AT&T recognized this and got out of the land line business and went almost exclusively wireless...

Netflix has an uphill battle. They are not just fighting against ISPs but also against movie studios. Netflix is simply stomping their ass in sales and they in turn are imposing caps and upping the price they charge Netflix for content.

People who decide that $15/month is too much to spend on unlimited content need to step back from the computer think for a minute. This war against Netflix is really a war against us. Cable companies want us to use their shitty services and movie companies want us to spend billions on the overrated bullshit movies. They want their monopoly and Netflix is the biggest threat to them. Our consumer choice is being threatened by THEM.

Netflix is working to buy up industry content. I hope they can also start buying up networks or build their own to bypass the lobbyists in D.C. who are working feverously to destroy our consumer choice.

I will pay Netflix the extra $5/month because I am convinced that they need the money to fight this war and that it's not just because of their greed...
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Re: Actually this may be a brilliant move on the part of Netflix

I dropped the streaming being i'm on verizon wireless through millinecom and the service is random at best.. I would love the streaming and would pay 8 a month for it happily. But if they are going to have to do the premium of 30 a month later on assuming I have broadband, I may have to pass depending on content vs fees..

Till then, its simply cheaper for me to have data mailed to me in an envelope than to try downloading it.. Fast too for that matter..
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"Baldrick, I Have a Cunning Plan!"

The studios have been gunning for Netflix ever since Starz cut a deal to sublicense their catalog to Netflix. That agreement expires in a few months and the studios have been telegraphing they will be demanding huge increases in license fees, if they license at all.

By splitting DVDs and streaming, and taking the heat for the rate hike now - before negotiations start, Netflix can point to the drop in subscriptions and tell the studios they have no basis for huge license fees.

Once the deals are signed, there's nothing that says Netflix can't start offering package deals again, if there really is demand for them. According to the CEO, streaming is far more popular and physical discs.
AstroBoy
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Looks like Redbox is the answer

I have the 3 DVD at a time plan for $20, which will soon be $24. I will drop the 3 at a time and keep the streaming plan for $8 and save $16. I will then use Redbox when I need/want a DVD/bluray.

Seems like netflix is pushing me to redbox. Was this planned?

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Re: Actually this may be a brilliant move on the part of Netflix

said by Skippy25:

said by Wilsdom:

All other heavy use of the internet is done by pedophiles and thieves.

Wow! That is a pretty bold statement.

If by "bold" you mean "stupid", then... yep.
AstroBoy
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Re: Almost $20 a month for 1 Blu-ray at a time and streaming?

I will be using Redbox for when I want a DVD or Bluray.
I will keep the streaming plan.
Overall, I will be saving at least $10 per month, compared to their new prices.
Fail for Netflix.

jsimmons
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Re: Streaming only

You'll certainly have to kiss the $8 / month rate goodbye.. And I fully expect that rate to be increased in the not too distant future.

wings10
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A: They have.
B: You can. Of course if your bandwidth/speed can handle it.
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Re: There's Always RedBox

Do you think you rent more then 8 disc a month? RedBox would costs you the same as the $8 plan from Netflix. You don't have to drive over to return / pick up the disc either.

I signed up for Netflix because it was the better deal the RedBox Blockbuster etc. The streaming was an added bonus. But we found ourselves streaming more and more so we dropped the disc plan. There is enough content to stream to keep us busy along with our DISH Network plan.
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Re: Looks like Redbox is the answer

So you will spend the same if not more at RedBox? Yes sounds like a good plan. lol
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Re: I'll stay with Netflix. Some of you just jump ship...

I'm staying as well. You can't beat the $7.99 a month for all the content that you can stream. Cheaper then HBO, Showtime etc.

I seen some very good classic films which is what I am into.

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Re: Looks like Redbox is the answer

Not necessarily. I use about 2-4 discs per month through the mail, sometimes as low as 1 per month when things are too hectic for movies.

If I paid $7.99 for streaming, and rented 3 Blu-Ray discs from Redbox per month for $4.50, I am still spending only $12.49 per month. Saving about $8 per month.

Or I could just ditch Netflix entirely, and rent 6 blu-rays from Red Box and pay $9.00 per month. It all depends how many movies you watch on streaming. Personally, I might find 1 or two a month worth watching.
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