 Cabal
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Cabal
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2013-May-13 5:10 pm
Seems like a pretty good priceThe phone costs $650-700 new, does it not? |
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 djdanskaRudie32
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djdanska
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2013-May-13 5:10 pm
I saw it.Not sure how they didn't see it was a promotion. I clearly thought it was the whole time. |
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cahiatt
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cahiatt
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2013-May-13 5:11 pm
Mixed opinion.."Covertly jacking fees is not a particularly impressive move for a carrier that professes to be dedicated to doing things differently"
While I tend to agree some I am FAR more comfortable with them doing it this way than some brand new $2.50 per month lobbyist acquisition fee into the monthly bill. At least they are ADVERTISING the price, not hiding it after the fact. |
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Re: I saw it.Where did you see it was a promotion? Do you recall? Trying to see if it was advertised with no luck. |
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djdanskaRudie32
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djdanska
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2013-May-13 5:15 pm
i read it at cnet.com and tmonews.com about it being around $100 cheaper for a limited time. This price increase just puts it in line with everybody else now. |
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Just talked with the guy that runs TMONews and he claims they never saw it either. Not being contentious, just want to see where it was stated. |
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BR5496
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BR5496
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2013-May-13 5:29 pm
TMO rocks!I don't want an Iphone but I don't see any problem with them raising prices, you act like they jacked the monthly fee on someone after they already purchased the thing.
A lot of people seem to be hating on T-mobile but as a long time customer I am very happy with 5 lines at $110 per month on the new plan with unlimited everything. Who else even come close to that? |
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2013-May-13 5:52 pm
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Re: I saw it.said by Karl Bode:Just talked with the guy that runs TMONews and he claims they never saw it either. Not being contentious, just want to see where it was stated.
Think about it this way, does it make any logical sense that T-Mobile could somehow sell this phone for $100 cheaper than everyone else? Even if it wasn't advertised as a promo the sniff test would indicate this was a promo. |
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Anon
2013-May-13 5:53 pm
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Re: TMO rocks!said by BR5496:I don't want an Iphone but I don't see any problem with them raising prices, you act like they jacked the monthly fee on someone after they already purchased the thing.
A lot of people seem to be hating on T-mobile but as a long time customer I am very happy with 5 lines at $110 per month on the new plan with unlimited everything. Who else even come close to that?
You DO NOT have 5 lines for $110 a month and unlimited everything. |
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Re: I saw it.The Wayback Machine shows this. » web.archive.org/web/2013 ··· code=iosScroll down near the bottom. Standard boilerplate "Limited Time Only, Prices Subject to change". If the link doesn't work I attached a screen capture. ?? J |
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Re: Seems like a pretty good price$650. Or $150 + $480 in payments. T-Mobile is still giving you a discount vs. buying a phone directly from Apple, so I don't see the issue here. Still cheaper up-front than AT&T et al. |
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Re: I saw it.That applies to all phones, it's just boilerplate and not an advertisement. It's probably still on the current page! I don't think a price increase of 10% is big news, though. |
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up $50 not a problem as bottom line stays the sameIm Not A apple fan but I dont see a problem with this at all. Yes its a little more out of your pocket as a down payment but really as long as the purchase price is not raise up this might be a good thing as you will pay off the phone a little bit quicker. I myself, if I was planning to purchase a phone from TMO this way I would be doubling down on monthly payments anyway to get it out the way.
Extra $50 HA! thats one night at the movies for you and your significant other, Actually one night at the movies would/ could cost you more than that. |
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tcope
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tcope
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2013-May-13 6:08 pm
Issue?I don't see a big issue with this as it appears that the phone is not over priced. However, I _do_ see this as a possible problem with TM's "uncarrier" plan. When TM buys a million of a phone what kind of discount do they get? I'm thinking it's somewhere south of retail. They then charge retail price for the phone and make a nice profit. They could also add bloatware to the phone and make some more money on the side.
It's a good racket when you think of it first. |
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Re: TMO rocks!said by hey hey hey :You DO NOT have 5 lines for $110 a month and unlimited everything.
Not saying hes telling the truth or fibbing about is plan but....., I do have a client I work with who is on TMO, they have some kind of corporate discount for running a non for profit and have 4 lines with smartphones with unlimited everything for less than $100 per month. ( I do believe there net access its permanently throttled however) |
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2013-May-13 6:17 pm
said by buddahbless:Not saying hes telling the truth or fibbing about is plan but....., I do have a client I work with who is on TMO, they have some kind of corporate discount for running a non for profit and have 4 lines with smartphones with unlimited everything for less than $100 per month.( I do believe there net access its permanently throttled however)
But that situation will not apply to the majority of potential t-mobile customers. |
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Anon
2013-May-13 6:18 pm
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Re: Issue?said by tcope:I don't see a big issue with this as it appears that the phone is not over priced. However, I _do_ see this as a possible problem with TM's "uncarrier" plan. When TM buys a million of a phone what kind of discount do they get? I'm thinking it's somewhere south of retail. They then charge retail price for the phone and make a nice profit. They could also add bloatware to the phone and make some more money on the side.
It's a good racket when you think of it first.
Actually Apple doesn't give anyone a discount. You want an Iphone you pay full price Apple doesn't give a shit who you are or how many you are buying. |
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2013-May-13 6:20 pm
no thanksi wouldnt take iphone or any phone from tmobile for free. they have absolutely no reception on voice calls and data slow as heck despite claiming a 4g network. tmobile in nyc has 2g quality and speeds. pathetic. |
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Anon
2013-May-13 6:22 pm
Also on the websiteQualifying rate plan required.SRP $629.99. 0% APR On Approved Credit for well-qualified buyer.
So I suspect most people will have to pay $630 upfront anyway. Amazing a family of 4 that is going to t-mobile to supposedly save money magically has $2500 to spend on phones upfront. |
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Re: no thanksI concur they're pretty abysmal in nyc compared to the competition, if they'd concetrate on getting more towers up, they'd be a real contender. Don't thinks they care though.  |
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Re: TMO rocks!Depends on your definition of "unlimited everything". If you see it as synonymous to:no set hard limit with overages for excess. Then yes he does.
If you see it as synonymous to "no throttling at ip link" (but throttling through other means such as over subscription or spectrum manipulation like sprint does is ok). Then tmo would cost 100 more per month for that for 5 lines |
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Re: Mixed opinion..said by cahiatt:"Covertly jacking fees is not a particularly impressive move for a carrier that professes to be dedicated to doing things differently"
Umm, "jacking fees"(prices) and "think differently" are firmly linked in my mind (and at certain firms  ) Face it any price is a promo, if the later decide they can get more for X. If they aren't moving enough X they announce a promo (sometimes at a lower price). If prices cuts was permanent, Wal Mart would have rolled back to depression era pricing long ago. |
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 Pirate515
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Re: Issue?said by tcope:They could also add bloatware to the phone and make some more money on the side. Actually, Apple does not allow carriers adding bloatware or any other junk to iDevices, at least not without their consent. According to numerous rumors, that was the main reason why Verizon did not originally get the iPhone: Apple approached them first, but Verizon wanted to load it with their bloatware; Steve Jobs was not having it, he wanted Apple to be in control of "experience" and was not about to allow carriers to modify iOS to their own liking. Ultimately, AT&T had no problems with that and ended up being exclusive US carrier for a while. Now that iPhone is no longer exclusive, the same still holds true. Although carriers can and do offer iOS apps, the only way to sneak them in is via AppStore, subject to Apple's approval, and of course, users need to download it themselves. |
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said by hey hey hey :Actually Apple doesn't give anyone a discount. You want an iPhone you pay full price Apple doesn't give a shit who you are or how many you are buying. Well, even with this price hike T-Mobile's iPhone still comes out $20 cheaper than factory unlocked or at full retail price from AT&T, Verizon or Sprint. So my guess is that T-Mobile may be catching some sort of a break on that price somewhere. Not to mention that from what I've heard, T-Mobile's payment plan is interest-free, so they are not making any money by offering monthly payments, simply recouping the cost of the phone. You can pre-pay that "loan" any time in part or in full with no penalty, or pay for the phone upfront, in either case you are still spending the same amount of money when all is said and done. In contrast, if you pay for that phone upfront with credit card and decide to make $20 payments every month, you will pay a noticeable amount in interest. |
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BiggA
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BiggA
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2013-May-13 7:48 pm
Big whoop-de-dooI'll pay attention when T-Mobile has halfway decent coverage. |
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Pirate515
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Re: Also on the websitesaid by hey hey hey :Qualifying rate plan required. SRP $629.99. 0% APR On Approved Credit for well-qualified buyer.
So I suspect most people will have to pay $630 upfront anyway. Amazing a family of 4 that is going to T-Mobile to supposedly save money magically has $2,500 to spend on phones upfront. My guess is that this goes along the same guidelines as for post-paid contract plans, meaning they check your credit before they decide whether or not to give you the financing. With the post-paid contract plans it works like this: if your credit is good, you get approved and get that phone at subsidized price provided you agree to the contract. Otherwise, you are stuck with pre-paid where you have to buy a phone upfront or have to put down a deposit that will be used to cover ETF and unpaid bill(s) if you turn into a deadbeat. Multiply that by 4 in your case and you are probably looking at hefty sum either way. Here, if your credit is good, you are approved for phone "financing." If not, you have to pay for the phone upfront. As far as service fees go, since there's no contract, you probably prepay for month in advance. If the next bill is not paid by the due date, they cut the service right then and there and there are no penalties involved. |
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Re: no thankssaid by georgeglass5:I concur, they're pretty abysmal in NYC compared to the competition, if they'd concetrate on getting more towers up, they'd be a real contender. Don't thinks they care though. It's been more than 5 years since I left T-Mobile, but I never had a problem with them in NYC (or any other big cities that I've been to for that matter). However, their coverage in rural areas either sucks or is totally non-existent. So if you live in rural area or travel to such a lot, T-Mobile is not for you. This is where Verizon and AT&T excel, so if that's the case, go with one of them. I think it's numbers game for T-Mobile. Given that they don't have as nearly as much cash in the bank as Verizon or AT&T, they tend to focus on densely populated areas (where most of the money is anyway). Expanding into rural areas will cost them a lot, and at the end probably won't bring much customers anyway, which is why they see no sense in investing in rural coverage. |
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Re: I saw it.Um it's actually a 50% price increase, a 10% one would of been 10.00 |
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said by OSUGoose:Um it's actually a 50% price increase, a 10% one would of been 10.00
Certainly not. The price of the phone increased from $580 to $630. That's an 8.6% increase. Pretty close to 10%, by my book. A 50% increase in the price of the phone would've been from $580 to $870. And this is why we're stuck with a carrier subsidy model, and the rest of the world isn't ... |
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Were not talking about the sunk cost, were talking about the initial start, 100 to 150 I s a 50% increase to get into the phone. |
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