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Cellcos be worried...If I were a cellco with dreams of ever increasing GB charges, I'd be seriously worried.
A smartphone with a VOIP over Wifi app, access to a wifi connection wherever there is a major cableco and all of a sudden that $40 month voice and $50+ per month dataplan from the cellco starts looking a bit dodgy. |
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Probitas
Anon
2013-Jun-10 12:26 pm
free?Existing customers are paying for their initial access, and clearly they are being charged enough the companies can offer this 'free' access. But how much do they pay for the usage? Sounds like a trap to attempt to boost revenues for usage. It's only free if there are no fees involved at all. |
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Re: Cellcos be worried...But you forget; that data plan is still going to be required on a smart phone. They should be worried about Republic Wireless or any other start up that offers the wifi calling; even T-Mobile does on their phones. |
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GTFan
join:2004-12-03
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to travelguy
There's a bazillion places where you can't get WiFi but still want data, starting with your car. I don't think the cell co's are all that worried about hotspots and people dumping data plans. |
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Justin028 to Probitas
Anon
2013-Jun-10 1:16 pm
to Probitas
Re: free?Dallas lacks coverage but Alabama has it?  |
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Corehhi
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2013-Jun-10 12:46 pm
Here's what I doSomeone gave me an IPhone 3G so I set it up as a house phone with a Google voice number. Works well around the house but I've found it's actually useful away from home because of all the free Wi-Fi spots. |
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to TBBroadband
Re: Cellcos be worried...Clearly that's why the cellcos made data plans mandatory for smartphone users. But I have a Galaxy Player - essentially a Galaxy smartphone without the cell chip, but with wifi. Works a treat with a VOIP app.
Not saying this is a solution for every situation, but it could bleed revenue from the cellcos, especially in urban areas. |
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Absolutely - it isn't a 100% solution. But think about it: Cellcos make money when they have the maximum number of users on a tower. They don't make as much money out in the boonies where they have to provide coverage to a smaller user base.
The cablescos don't need to provide a 100% solution - if they cream off a chunk of the urban users, cellcos will feel the pain.
In effect, cablecos become cellcos without the cost of all the towers. |
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ak3883
join:2005-08-20
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ak3883
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2013-Jun-10 12:59 pm
COX still is not onboardAll the CableWifi SSIDs I have seen only permit users of TWC/Brighthouse or Comcast to log in, Cox is dragging their feet in this.
Or maybe the others put them last in priority because they operate the smallest # of hotspots, certainly in the Northeast. |
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 N3OGHYo Soy Col. "Bat" Guano
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join:2003-11-11
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to travelguy
Re: Cellcos be worried...I purchased a tablet last year with a cellular radio built in. Figured I would use it when I needed it, and pay the $20/mo.
I haven't used it in months. Just about every place i go has WiFi anymore..... |
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Re: free?AFAIK, Cable wifi is being offered as a no charge feature to existing subscribers. That kind of makes defensive sense, because you know cellcos were hoping to poach some cable HSI subscribers by offering tethering. |
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Cablevision Wi-Fi is the Most ComprehensiveCablevision Wi-Fi access is very ubiquitous across the entire Cablevions regions and seems to popup almost everywhere. I believe they are far ahead of any other provider. And it is quite a useful service. |
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 gatorkramNeed for Speed
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"CableWiFi is my SSID"?!I hope I am wrong here, and that "security" is better than I am thinking, but I will proceed with my comment anyway...
Yeah, so I set up my SSID as CableWiFi and capture a bunch of peoples login info, and then who knows what else if I want to let their connection continue to the internet...
I sure hope it's not this easy, and people are expecting, and are directed to secure websites when trying to connect to these hotspots.... Yikes is all I can say. |
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 IowaCowboySupermarket Hero
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SecurityI wonder if cable Wi-Fi is more secure than traditional hotspots.
I use my cellular data plan unless I am at home and then I use Wi-Fi. I generally don't trust public hotspots as there are so many providers and they can range from secure to not secure.
At least cellular connections are secure. |
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said by IowaCowboy:I wonder if cable Wi-Fi is more secure than traditional hotspots. Our corporate security folks are pretty anal about stuff like this and they allow us to use Boingo - in fact we have a worldwide contract with them. So I suspect as long as you use a reputable provider (including cablecos), you should be in pretty good shape |
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TheWiseGuyDog And Butterfly
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to gatorkram
Re: "CableWiFi is my SSID"?!said by gatorkram:Yeah, so I set up my SSID as CableWiFi and capture a bunch of peoples login info, and then who knows what else if I want to let their connection continue to the internet...
A Couple of things, 1. If you "Log In" manually it is via an SSL page so unless the user is not paying any attention they should know they are not logging onto their provider's log in page since the certificate would be incorrect. It is like if someone were to manage to hijack your connection on the Internet, to a Bank or any SSL page, the certificate needs to match. 2. CV at least allows you to set up specific devices that automatically log in via a MAC Address. So while someone could capture the MAC, spoof it and use the connection using your MAC address, they would not capture any credentials. |
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Re: COX still is not onboardCox usually waits for others to work out the bugs in a new idea before deploying it. Look how they got burned when they thought they were going to be a leader and provide cellular phone service as a cable company. A big costly embarrassing mess for them. |
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 W8ASABiet Noi Tieng Viet Khong?
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W8ASA
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2013-Jun-10 9:24 pm
Ho Hum In OhioNone of these hotspots is anywhere near Dayton, and there are pitifully few in Ohio at all. Ho Hum.... |
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CXM_SplicerLooking at the bigger picture
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Re: SecurityActually, they are not... at least GMS isn't. It is fairly easy to do a MITM-like attack on outgoing voice + texts. I would be willing to bet hackers can intercept data also. The FBI does it with stingrays so it is at least possible. Likely? No, but then the odds of getting intercepted at an open Wifi connection are nll if you are using SSL correctly. |
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contsole
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join:2003-12-30
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to ak3883
COX still is not onboard |
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hgraul
join:2005-12-04
Saint Louisville, OH |
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Re: Ho Hum In OhioYup. There ain't none in the Columbus Central Ohio area either. Of course those of us stuck in the Mid-Ohio late Adelphia legacy Division are about 50 years behind the rest of TWC anyway. |
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W8ASABiet Noi Tieng Viet Khong?
join:2000-07-31
Dayton, OH |
W8ASA
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2013-Jun-12 8:39 pm
which is 10 years behind everyone else. In 2000, in Jacksonville, Florida, a home cable customer could use his cable box to search the internet, look up restaurants, etc. Still can't do that here in the Dayton area. That was 13 years ago!!! |
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ajwees41
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to contsole
Re: COX still is not onboardthey haven't even launched ondemand via the tivo's either |
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