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bockbock
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2015-May-26 8:09 am
No..."With our larger reach, we will be able to accelerate the deployment of faster Internet speeds, state-of-the-art video experiences, and fully–featured voice products, at highly competitive prices," Charter CEO Tom Rutledge said in a statement.
No, you'll just be a bigger, monopolized company. Plain and simple. |
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"highly competitive prices*"
*except in markets/footprints with little or no competition |
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Headed toward bankruptcy again?I don't see how they can make necessary upgrades, acquire a larger company, and then another good sized company for good measure. My prediction is that this will end in disaster. |
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 guppy_fish
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join:2003-12-09
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Its the customers that are buyingCharter isn't buying anything, its the customers, with increased future bills for nothing but golden parachutes and pay-off the Wallstreet crowd funding this that will be making the payments on this buy-out. Gordon Gekko would be proud |
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IluvMoney (banned)
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2015-May-26 8:24 am
said by guppy_fish:Charter isn't buying anything, its the customers, with increased future bills for nothing but golden parachutes and pay-off the Wallstreet crowd funding this that will be making the payments on this buy-out. Yes. It is called a leveraged buyout and every merger over the last 40 yrs has been done this way. And that shark John Malone is a master of it. » www.investopedia.com/ter ··· yout.asp |
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NOW WHAT?Earthlink offers broadband service on the Time Warner and Brighthouse Network. Earthlink offers 15 Mb down for a lower cost than Road Runner (Brighthouse). Will that end when the merger is completed? |
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Yes that most likely would end considering Charter ended it's agreement with Earthlink. When Earthlink's existing agreement ends with Time Warner Cable which is now Charter Communications I see them not renewing Earthlink's agreement. |
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Re: Its the customers that are buyingsaid by IluvMoney:And that shark John Malone is a master of it. Mitt Romney made his billions that way. |
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Re: Headed toward bankruptcy again?Worse Case Scenario. If that happened then Time Warner Cable and Charter Communications would be broken up and auctioned to other cable companies. Most likely if they needed money to pay off large debt they could sell off parts of the company they do not want, to pay off the loan and or investments in the markets they want. So their bankruptcy risk is low. |
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Re: Its the customers that are buyingYou are correct they are most likely buying Time Warner Cable to add customers to make their investors happy. They do not necessarily have to raise their bills but can make it up in quantity of customers they service. |
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to Mr Matt
Mitt Romney is a corporate raider. Charter Communications is buying Time Warner Cable to make money. They do not want to destroy the company who is going to make them some money. |
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 Noah VailOh God please no.
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join:2004-12-10
SouthAmerica |
In other newsChina Telecom to buy Comcast, Vodafone, Virgin Media, BSkyB, Verizon, Disney, GE and Wyoming. |
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 cork1958Cork
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to bockbock
Re: No..."With our larger reach, we will be able to accelerate the deployment of faster Internet speeds, state-of-the-art video experiences, and fully%u2013featured voice products, at highly competitive prices," Charter CEO Tom Rutledge said in a statement. Except their video since "upgrading" to all digital just about sucks the big one! Constant pixeling, takes forever just to change a channel and even then sometimes have to go back to previous channel and then back to channel you want for it to even come in! This all digital thing IS NOT any type of improvement, IMO, and simply a money grab for those stupid STB's! My free year is up in June on the 2 STB's we have and when my wife saw that notice on this month's bill, I think it got her just that much closer to ditching tv.  |
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This is what's wrong with America these days...The CEOs of these big companies no longer do what's right for the company. They only do what's right for their wallets. It's all about scoring that big payday for themselves.
This is another merger that needs to be shot down. Enough with the mergers. |
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to Noah Vail
Re: In other newslol.. thanks for the chuckle (I was born/raised in Wyoming). |
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 Astyanax
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join:2002-11-14
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to techguru306
Re: NOW WHAT?said by techguru306:Yes that most likely would end considering Charter ended it's agreement with Earthlink. When Earthlink's existing agreement ends with Time Warner Cable which is now Charter Communications I see them not renewing Earthlink's agreement. I never really understood the purpose of EarthLink's continuing existence even before this merger. Their products were not much cheaper than Bright House's and from what I heard their service was a lot worse. |
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 aaronwt
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join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
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Re: No...said by cork1958:"With our larger reach, we will be able to accelerate the deployment of faster Internet speeds, state-of-the-art video experiences, and fully%u2013featured voice products, at highly competitive prices," Charter CEO Tom Rutledge said in a statement.
Except their video since "upgrading" to all digital just about sucks the big one!
Constant pixeling, takes forever just to change a channel and even then sometimes have to go back to previous channel and then back to channel you want for it to even come in!
This all digital thing IS NOT any type of improvement, IMO, and simply a money grab for those stupid STB's!
My free year is up in June on the 2 STB's we have and when my wife saw that notice on this month's bill, I think it got her just that much closer to ditching tv. Analog is dead. We've been all digital here on FiOS for many years. No problems here. Now with analog that was a pain. Analog sucks. Plus analog doesn't belong here in 2015. It's a leftover from the 20th century. And the sooner it's completely dead the better. |
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No competition IS the problemThe problem with The FCC allowing Charter to buy Time Warner Cable is it will not add any competition against Comcast.
This is because the cable companies have become monopolies through zoning. Unless you live in one of the top larger cities in America such as New York, you're like the rest of the other 90% of Americans who have no choice.
Cable providers should be a lot like cell phone providers. If tomorrow I decide I dislike T-mobile, I can switch to Verizon, ATT, or Sprint.
But today as I dislike Comcast, my choices are Comcast only. Just like how a Charter customer cannot pick Time Warner or Comcast. They have become monopolies through zoning. |
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I'd like to see the deal blockedI'd like to see TWC forced to remain a standalone company. |
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Re: No...Not in OPS (Opelika Power Services) and EPB (Electric Power Board) territory at least. We have analog on the 1550nm wavelength. It's called the "Essential Basic" tier. "Choice basic" is the same, except you pay $20 more for the same channels in HD, and it's on the 1490nm wavelength instead. And the local hospital (East Alabama Medical Center) switched to the Essentials tier for for the entire hospital since Charter got rid of all the analog channels. I myself use OPS. Got it when it was first available in October 2013. |
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Re: NOW WHAT?said by Astyanax:Their products were not much cheaper than Bright House's Last time I checked with Brighthouse the lowest broadband cost was $59.00/Mo. for 10Mb down, no promotional pricing. Earthlink offers 15Mb down for $29.95 for 6 months and $41.95/Mo thereafter. |
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 maartenaElmo
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Re: I'd like to see the deal blockedsaid by IowaCowboy:I'd like to see TWC forced to remain a standalone company. Not gonna happen. If this deal falls through, they will just look for the next thing. Time Warner as a company made it clear they wanted to get rid of cable years ago. Their ONLY reason to spin Time Warner Cable off into a separate company when they did it years ago (when they lost the use of the roadrunner logo(tm) and such) was so that eventually they could get rid of it. They legally already have of course as they no longer have shares in the company. Bottom line: If a merger with American companies doesn't work, they'll just start talking to foreign ones. The French are already waiting right outside the border if this deal falls through. |
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Re: Headed toward bankruptcy again?said by Gilitar:I don't see how they can make necessary upgrades, acquire a larger company, and then another good sized company for good measure. My prediction is that this will end in disaster. It's all talk. Unless the FCC can force the upgrades for everyone nationwide in the deal, it is all hot air, just like the AT&T threat that they wouldn't be able to invest in fiber if they couldn't buy DirecTV. Right. There will be plenty of crying wolf in this deal, just like the one with Comcast. |
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join:2001-01-13
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n2jtx
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2015-May-26 9:44 am
CablevisionI wonder if Cablevision will be the next one gobbled up by Tom Rutledge. At an ex-VP at Cablevision, acquiring the company would probably be a feather in his cap.
Frankly I think it is not a matter of "if" but "when" Cablevision disappears into the arms of a bigger company. Unfortunately they all pretty much suck and I assume we will see service take a turn for the worse. |
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GoodTWC obviously doesn't care, and just wants out of the Cable/Internet business. |
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Cannot Keep it Up!They should not be able to buy anything until they fix their own network issues such as: A. Increase upload speeds from 4-5 Mbps in a vast part of their network to something reasonable, and, B. Keep their network operational availability at a much higher level. Right now I am on my neighbor's AT&T WiFi due to another Charter failure.  |
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join:2000-11-03
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Re: NOW WHAT?said by Astyanax:I never really understood the purpose of EarthLink's continuing existence even before this merger. Their products were not much cheaper than Bright House's and from what I heard their service was a lot worse. Earthlink's cable service through bright house is not 'a lot worse' as you put it. For the most part thier 15/1 service is the same as bright house, speeds are consistent, the trace routes are exactly the same. Aside from a few differences of services provided (i.e.: 10mb homepage instead of access to cablewifi hotspots outside of your home) and your ip address hostname *.mindspring.com, instead of *.bhn.net it is almost exactly the same. In fact, when you call the tech support # that earthlink provides in case something goes wrong you get routed to bright house's tech support. |
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Re: I'd like to see the deal blockedI'd like to see how a Canadian or French company would work. At least it would be a new alternative. |
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Frank
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Re: No...The problem isn't analog or digital, the problem is the boxes. Unless you're one of the lucky few with a decent box (fios or satellite), chances are you're stuck with some decade old technology that barely works (bright house).
Watching TV and there's a brown out? 15 years ago an analog box would have been up instantly. Today, Digital box takes like 5+ minutes to boot up.
Changing the channel takes longer, I've noticed that very few people channel surf anymore because there's like a 1-2 second delay on changing channels. 15 years ago on analog changing the channel was instant.
Digital boxes have software bugs. I've had digital cable boxes slow down to a crawl (i.e.: I input the channel number and it shows up like 5 seconds later) and even crash on me. That never ever happened during the analog days.
While I agree that digital is the way to go and the picture is significantly better, it seems like a step backwards is being taken in terms of reliability and user experience. |
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Re: Headed toward bankruptcy again?Maybe this was Comcast's plan all along to get what it wanted from TWC at a bankruptcy fire sale... |
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